Contents:
Ytsejam List T-Shirts? (Jason Hough <jason@jester.cts.com>)
Re: Shirts? (smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve Mansfield))
Re: Ytsejam List T-Shirts? (Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>)
Pictures (Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>)
Re: YTSEJAM digest 304 (Guy K McArthur <guy@gas.uug.arizona.edu>)
Re: Pictures (Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>)
DT import list (<will@scf.nmsu.edu>)
King's X-Dallas paper review (Gravy Train <71234.342@CompuServe.COM>)
Re: YTSEJAM digest 304 (khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson))
Shirts (BLTSBARRY@VAX.LIVERPOOL-JOHN-MOORES.AC.UK)
Pictures (lee@ecn.purdue.edu (Lee T Sprague))
T-shirts (lee@ecn.purdue.edu (Lee T Sprague))
Live in Long Island (lee@ecn.purdue.edu (Lee T Sprague))
FAQ (etlgyve@etlxd20.ericsson.se ( gary vance xd/mg ))
DoE Packaging (William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>)
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 01:08:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Jason Hough <jason@jester.cts.com>
Subject: Ytsejam List T-Shirts?
All this talk about T's has brought up an old idea. On the Marillion list
we've got 3 different Custom T-Shirts, made by Jason Giles... and I must
say he gets better with each new design. The shirt he made for Genesis
recently is AWESOME.
So, I've asked him in the past about doing one for us, and he said no
prob. So, assuming his offer is still good, and I will ask him tonight,
what do you folks want on the shirt?
Typically we put some sort of logo on the front, and a quote from a song
with "ytsejam@bnf.com" underneath, and then some sort of larger emblem on
the back with another quote.
Thoughts? Remember these can't get to complicated or the price gets too
high. They usually cost about 12 bucks a piece.
So, send ME mail with your suggestions, and I will post a summary to the
list for voting.
Lemme know!
Jason Hough
ytsejam-owner@bnf.com
grendel@qualcomm.com
jason@jester.cts.com
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Jason Hough - jason@jester.cts.com
Nextmail is fine
"I'm ashes on the water now, somewhere far away..." -Marillion
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 09:41:01 -0500 (EST)
From: smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve Mansfield)
Subject: Re: Shirts?
> i just started paying attention to this shirt problem. are you guys looking
> for Dt shirts? there is a store right by school here that has the heart
> tangled in thorns on the front and i don't remeber whats on the back. if andy
> one wants more info please feel free to write.
> later
Plus there's always the option of taking the design to a t-shirt store that
does air-brushing. For DC area readers, there's a store in Springfield
Mall that does this, and the cost varies based on the design. For
something like this, you'd probably pay no more than at a concert for a
shirt.
Steve Mansfield | Once you're touched you stand alone to face the bitter fight
smm@uunet.uu.net | Once I reached for love but now I reach for life.
Dream Theater - Learning to Live
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 13:37:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>
Subject: Re: Ytsejam List T-Shirts?
>
>
> All this talk about T's has brought up an old idea. On the Marillion list
> we've got 3 different Custom T-Shirts, made by Jason Giles... and I must
> say he gets better with each new design. The shirt he made for Genesis
> recently is AWESOME.
>
> So, I've asked him in the past about doing one for us, and he said no
> prob. So, assuming his offer is still good, and I will ask him tonight,
> what do you folks want on the shirt?
>
> Typically we put some sort of logo on the front, and a quote from a song
> with "ytsejam@bnf.com" underneath, and then some sort of larger emblem on
> the back with another quote.
>
> Thoughts? Remember these can't get to complicated or the price gets too
> high. They usually cost about 12 bucks a piece.
>
> So, send ME mail with your suggestions, and I will post a summary to the
> list for voting.
>
> Lemme know!
>
> Jason Hough
> ytsejam-owner@bnf.com
> grendel@qualcomm.com
> jason@jester.cts.com
>
>
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> Jason Hough - jason@jester.cts.com
> Nextmail is fine
> "I'm ashes on the water now, somewhere far away..." -Marillion
> (-----------------------------
>
>
>
well, at least have the symbol (the one with the mixed up letters).
you know the one i mean. the majesty one... the one that's on the
cover of wdadu.
i'd love to get one if it can be done.
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 19:24:48 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
Subject: Pictures
Hey... I just downloaded the pictures that someone uploaded, and they
are great. A little grainy, but other than that, awsome. I am not
sure, but is there some way to adjust it so that the resolotion of the
capture is the same as the moniter, since comp screens are higher
resolution. If not, they are still great!!!
-- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | I was told there's a miricle for each day that I try | | I was told there's a new love that's born for each one that has died | | I was told there'd be no one to call on when I feel alone and afraid | | I was told if you dream of the next world | | You'll find yourself swimming in a lake of fire | | Dream Theater Metropolis (part 1) Images and Words | | Michael Burstin Brandeis University | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Let's Go Pens Let's Go Pens Lets Go Pens Let's Go Pens | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ For info on Dream Theater, some Steven Wright jokes, the master list of pickup lines, a revised history of the world, a few blond jokes: finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu >mikeb.finger.file------------------------------
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 18:58:40 -0700 (MST) From: Guy K McArthur <guy@gas.uug.arizona.edu> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 304
How the hell do I unsubscribe from this thing? ytsejam-request? ytsejam-manager? I've tried them all.
+----------------------------=============================--------------------+ "I got my sights on the stars< -- -- -- -- > . . won't get that far > __ __ __ __ < . . but I'll try anyway..." < __ __ __ - __ > * RUSH/best I can > == == == == < +============================<<<guy@gas.uug.arizona.edu>>>====================+
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 94 22:42:49 MST From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> Subject: Re: Pictures
Okay where were the pics put now? I forget, and I wanna take a look at em. Mike
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 23:07:21 -0700 (MST) From: <will@scf.nmsu.edu> Subject: DT import list
Anyone out there got a complete list of DT's import releases? All I've got it LatM (I'm too damn poor to get LaLI) and was wondering just how many releases they've got out. I'm especially looking for discs that contain "Status Seeker", "Ytse Jam", and "Learning to Live".
thanks folks da Will-meister
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Date: 24 Jan 94 01:14:31 EST From: Gravy Train <71234.342@CompuServe.COM> Subject: King's X-Dallas paper review
============================================================================= New Album Preview ============================================================================= >From robnpam@delphi.com (Pamela Pociluk):
The track listing for DOGMAN, the new King's X album scheduled to be released January 25, is as follows:
Dogman Sunshine Rain Shoes Complain Pretend Human Behavior Flys and Blue Skys (sic) Cigarettes Black the Sky Go to Hell Fool You Pillow Don't Care Manic Depression
The album was produced by Brendan O'Brien and has a heavier, more straightforward sound than their work with Sam Taylor. Doug does all the lead vocals this time.
"Two thumbs up, way up" from me and hubby. :) My impression is that most of their existing fans will find lots to enjoy here, and hope- fully, IF Atlantic promotes them properly, they'll win over some new fans as well.
============================================================================= Dallas Morning News Article ============================================================================= Transcribed w/o permission by Tyler Weaver, weaver@spdc.ti.com:
KING'S X HOPES TO SHED CULT IMAGE Band changes managers, tries stripped-down sound
from Dallas Morning News, 12/16/93 By David Sprague Billboard
NEW YORK-- While a lush, elaborate sound often described as "the Beatles meet Metallica" has won King's X a dedicated cult following, it's never translated into mainstream success for the Houston-based hard-rock trio. But with its stripped-down fifth album, _Dogman_, which Atlantic will release Jan.25, the band may surprise longtime followers and --in hopes of label and band-- change the perception that King's X is merely "a musician's band." Much of the transformation, it would seem, stems from the band's split with manager Sam Taylor. For eight years, Mr. Taylor not only handled the band's business, but also produced its albums, directed several highly conceptual videos, and played an unusually large role in the creative process. But two months into a 1992 tour supporting its self-titled fourth album, the band left the road for what singer/bassist Doug Pinnick called "a period of reassessment," and ended up severing the relationship. "We'd been together for so long that there was really no way to change the way we worked together," says Mr. Pinnick. "No knock on Sam, but he was so analytical about things that we'd end up going over every detail to the point where the initial spark was sometimes lost." Rather than return to the road, the band focused on the future (a decision that Atlantic executive vice president and general manager Val Azzoli says contributed to the disappointing sales of _King's X_). The group signed with manager Ray Daniels (sic), who also handles Rush's affairs, and made a conscious decision to relinquish some of the tight creative control upon which Mr. Taylor had insisted. "When they asked us what we thought would be a good single," Mr. Pinnick says by way of example, "we said, 'It's up to you guys-- we like all the songs.'" The band's new philosophy also has rekindled enthusiasm at Atlantic, where support for King's X has run deep since the release of its acclaimed 1988 debut, _Out of the Silent Planet_. "This is a new chapter in the band's life, not so much because of new management as (because of) the array of things that come with it," says Mr. Azzoli. "Whether (Mr. Taylor) was good, bad, or indifferent doesn't matter. The fact is simply that now you have all these new creative forces coming together. By the very nature of that, you're going to get a whole different vibe. Plus, the band has realized what their strengths are-- they've become far more succinct." Indeed, _Dogman_, which was produced by Brendan O'Brien, peels away not only the multiple sonic layers that characterized previous releases (on 1991's _F,H,L_, the band employed a dizzying array of orchestral instruments), but often the mystical veneer of the songs. From the title track-- which will be released Jan.11 as the first single-- to the blistering cover of Jimi Hendrix's _Manic Depression_, the 14-track set is the most aggressive King's X album to date. "This is always what the band sounded like live," says Mr. Pinnick, who now handles all lead vocals. The incomplete video for _Dogman_ likewise will emphasize live footage-- a first for the band, whose previous clips (such as last year's MTV staple _Black Flag_) were eye-catching but sometimes esoteric. "There's no smoke and mirrors on this one," says Atlantic vice president of product development Vicky Germaise. "It's a live clip that clearly imparts their intensity. As simple as it sounds, we've never had that before." Ms. Germaise says taking to the road ("but not a club tour; they've done enough preaching to the converted," she says) is the key to expanding King's X's record sales, which have averaged about 200,000 units per project (_FHL_, which reached No.85 on the _Billboard_ charts, exceeded that figure, but its follow-up slipped significantly). And with manager Daniels' capacity for breaking bands through relentless touring, the group looks to spend most of 1994 on the road-- first as an opening act, then headlining a theater tour. While radio has been a sticking point in the effort to break King's X more widely (only _It's Love_, from _FHL_, has cracked the Top 5 on _Billboard's_ Album Rock chart), Mr. Azzoli cites the new set's depth as an indication that _Dogman_ will make inroads both at album rock and at the label's secondary focus, modern rock radio. A revitalized Mr. Pinnick-- who concedes that a conscious effort to "write singles" may have hampered the band in the past-- professes commitment to a long-term push behind _Dogman_, as does Atlantic's promotion department. "Since I've been at this company, King's X has been the one band everyone wants to break," Mr. Azzoli says. "Now there's finally a sense that all the elements are in place to do it-- I've never seen people as excited as they are about this album. It's pretty close to perfect."
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 94 02:17:55 MST From: khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson) Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 304
Just playing along today, I got most of "A change of Seasons" for bass guitar.
Also, Ytsejam is in the 7th position on guitar, and around 11 or 12 on the bass... Here;s a little more:
Surrounded is in the key of G Take the Time is in F# Most of "ACOS" is in F# "Under a Glass Moon" starts in F#:
a--- e---2-3-2---2-3--2-3-2---2-3-2-0---
Here's the "outside the soundness of your mind part":
d--- a---4-4-4-4-4-4-4----0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0--- e---------------------------------------2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2
that isn't the correct number of notes, but that's where you play it.
d--- a---4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4----7-7-7-7-7-7-7-7----9-9-9-9-9-9-9----2-2-2-2-2-2-2 e---
that's the "bathing your soul in silver tears" part...
Here's some of the bass solo in "Ytse Jam":
g-----14-14-14-12-14-15--15-15-15-15-17--17-19--19-19-19-19-17-19-20-19-17-19 d a e
I'm still working on that... I knew the bass at the beginning of "Pull me Under" but I can't remember it without the bass in my hand... next time.
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Date: Mon, 24 JAN 94 09:40:33 GMT From: BLTSBARRY@VAX.LIVERPOOL-JOHN-MOORES.AC.UK Subject: Shirts
Well, i got a Tshirt from the last time Isaw DT, the one I got was black, with the flaming heart on the front, with the names of the band on the back. THere were plenty of others there too, such as a Japan tour shirt, also one with the band on the front. Shaun
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 94 21:41:24 -0500 From: lee@ecn.purdue.edu (Lee T Sprague) Subject: Pictures
How do you download these? I can FTP them, but then getting them to my Mac via Kermit gives me problems. Could anyone suggest a detailed method, or maybe just e-mail me a uuencoded version of dt.gif, mike2.gif, and flaming. heart.gif? :) Thanks. -Lee (lee@mn.ecn.purdue.edu)
ps: I've always had problems getting pics from FTP, but never from the net.
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 94 20:17:45 -0500 From: lee@ecn.purdue.edu (Lee T Sprague) Subject: T-shirts
I'm not picky on the design...Have the majesty logo and the heart...The quality and size of the shirt are usually my biggest concerns.
-Lee
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Date: Sat, 22 Jan 94 22:13:58 -0500 From: lee@ecn.purdue.edu (Lee T Sprague) Subject: Live in Long Island
Someone wanted to know the quality of "Only a Matter of Time" in Live in Long Island (or "Only a Matter of Me" as it's called on the cover). I think this disc has a very poor quality, so much so that I don't even listen to it. Does anyone else have an opinion? The band sounds 50 feet away, and the foreground noise bugs the crap out of me. *I* wouldn't recommend it.
-Lee
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 94 11:43:51 GMT From: etlgyve@etlxd20.ericsson.se ( gary vance xd/mg ) Subject: FAQ
Greetings...
Can anyone give me an FTP address where I can get the Dream Theater FAQ...?
Cheers...
Gary
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 11:02:29 -0500 (EST) From: William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: DoE Packaging
I know DoE is a 2 cd set, but I saw it at a record show yesterday and it was only 1 case, still shrinkwrapped. Are they both in 1 case?
Bill Bajzek wb2a@andrew.cmu.edu aq617@yfn.ysu.edu ak808@freenet.hsc.colorado.edu
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