Contents:
Lords of Sound (zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill))
Re: YTSEJAM digest 399 (zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill))
Re: YTSEJAM digest 401 (khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson))
Fan club's address (dpapalli@sdcc8.UCSD.EDU (* BULLS 4-peat **))
Rush vs. DT (MikeP81576@aol.com)
D00D! (and a surround sound I&W question) (The Reverend <mdb0213@tamsun.tamu.edu>)
Re: YTSEJAM digest 401 (rtoscano@icogsci1.UCSD.EDU (Richard Toscano))
Re: DT and Related Bands ("Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>)
Re: YTSEJAM digest 399 ("Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>)
Re: Comparing musicians (Timo Haanp{{ UPR <thaanpaa@ra.abo.fi>)
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Date: Sat, 21 May 94 13:12:11 PDT
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
Subject: Lords of Sound
I just found two copies of this in a local music store.
I was wondering about the sound quality (in relation to
DoE, e.g.) before I shell out $48.
Thanks,
Zach
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Date: Sat, 21 May 94 13:17:14 PDT
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 399
Portnoy vs. Peart:
I think Mike is what Neil should be.. A good drummer who likes to
show it off.
In the immortal words of the professor:
"Been there. Done that." Listen to
FBN (the album) if you have any doubts.
Zach
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Date: Sat, 21 May 94 17:42:26 MDT
From: khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson)
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 401
DT sold out? You're kidding... Until James came along, they were giving
thought to just being a instrumental band...
They don't commercialize on purpose. They would sell out if they
stopped doing long songs, or intricate solos... Nah, they will never
do that. Because they stuck with what they did for so long, and it
worked. When they were signed to Atco, they were told, "don't change..."
They won't.
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Date: Sat, 21 May 1994 18:10:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: dpapalli@sdcc8.UCSD.EDU (* BULLS 4-peat **)
Subject: Fan club's address
> Damn! I just deleted the address someone posted for the DT fanclub.
> Please repost it.
>
> thanks,
>
> Zach
>
Dream Theater Fan Club
Midtown Station
Box 1188
New York
NY 10018
Demetris
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Date: Sat, 21 May 94 22:42:04 EDT
From: MikeP81576@aol.com
Subject: Rush vs. DT
ENOUGH !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARRRGGGHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!
This endless 'discussion' is pointless !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you really need something to do with your hands, take them off the
keyboard and try masturbation or something.
Mike
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Date: Sat, 21 May 1994 22:55:12 -0500 (CDT)
From: The Reverend <mdb0213@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Subject: D00D! (and a surround sound I&W question)
Forwarded message:
]Subject: HUGE APOLOGY FROM ME !!!! SORRY GUYS :(
]
]I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TAKE THE TIME (NO PUN INTENDEED :) TO APOLOGISE FOR
]MY STUPID POST OF YTSE 398 IN 399. I DIDN'T MEAN TO UPSET ANY1. KINDA
]NEW AT THIS INTERNET POST NEWS THING. A QUICK QUESTION HOW DOES ONE
]REPLY TO ONE LETTER IF THEY GET YTSE IN DIGEST FORMAT...WILL I NEED TO
]CUT OUT EVERYTHING FIRST OR WILL I HAVE 2 UNSUBSCRIBE 2 THE DIGEST FORMAT???
1) Writing a note in all caps IS THE EQUIVALENT OF SCREAMING! Start by doing
lowercase.
2) This is mail, not Usenet News. If you're on a UNIX (yes it's caps, but it's
also an acronym) system, try using Elm.
3) As far as I know, there's no simple way, using emacs, to reply to only one.
I believe you should be able to mark text, and then delete it. I did the lazy
thing, and used vi to delete the first 150 or so lines, line-down-ed to the end
of your message, and then deleted the rest of the file. It depends quite a bit
on what system you use.
4) While it's occasionally nice to go in B1ff M0d3, d00d, it getz r33l 0ld real
qu1ck. (write out the words next time... it makes a better impression on the
net.denizens)
5) I believe the following statement, sent to the listserv, will set you back
in bounce mode, as opposed to the digest: SET YTSEJAM BOUNCE
However, depending on your editor, etc, it shouldn't be a problem.
]Again I'm real sorry for that post...can u guys ever 4give me :) ...
Well, in your favor, you didn't post a chain letter. ;^)
ObDreamTheater: On A.M.P., there was a thread on Surround Sound on certain
albums. Images & Words was one of the albums mentioned. Has anyone a surround
sound system? Is there nay truth to this? And if so, what is the mix like?
Thanks in advance, Rev.
---
The Reverend "They called me the Reverend when I entered the church unstained"
Fear the Information Revolution...for it has reached the hands of the strange.
PGP 2.2 Public Key Block available upon request
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Date: Sat, 21 May 94 22:30:39 PDT
From: rtoscano@icogsci1.UCSD.EDU (Richard Toscano)
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 401
> Diction is defined in the Websters New World Dictionary C. 1994 as
>"manner of speaking or singing; enunciation." I do not want to start a
>long argument, but dialects not having anything whatsoever to do with
>enunciation? How a word is pronounced??? Mabye our understandings of
>the definition simply differ.
> I can agree with your analysis of the degeneration of LaBries
>pronunciation, but I have yet to find a singer who can keep impeccably
>well ennunciated words. So, I find it kind of hard to count that against
>him.
As I said in my original post, diction when defined in terms of
singing describes how clearly one pronounces the words one is singing. So if
a Southerner sings the words understandably but with a southern dialect, he has
good diction. If an Englishman sings words understandably but with a British
dialect, he has good diction. Hence my statement that dialect has nothing to
with diction.
As for your second paragraph:
- I didn't say that other singers have impeccable pronunciation, I just said
LaBrie's was worse than average.
- Opera or classically trained singers have really good diction.
- I said I didn't really count that against him as a singer - I just wanted
to clear up what was (and apparently still is) confusion on your part.
--
/\ Rich Toscano
/ \ rtoscano@icogsci1.ucsd.edu
/ \ \ -Guitarist of little or no note
/ ___\ \ -Evolver of dim-witted neural net creatures
/ / _____\
/_/________\ "Ook!" - Recital Boy
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Date: Sat, 21 May 1994 22:56:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
Subject: Re: DT and Related Bands
> > As for DT blowing them off the
> > stage, anyone who saw QR's last tour knows that it will take a hell of a
> > band hitting their mark perfectly to do that,
>
> Um, DT is a hell of a band...and they always hit their mark perfectly.
I'm a big fan of DT, but even I acknowledge this isn't always true.
I'll go out on a limb here and say that, if DT has a weak link at any
given live show, James Labrie is that weak link: sometimes his voice
isn't right on the money; he shrills his highs, etc. This sounds
amateurish and is the biggest single turnoff my friends find when they
listen to, eg., LatM. On nights and on songs where his voice is on
the beam, though, QR can at best hope to play DT to a draw. :)
> >IMHO of course. Let's all
> > just hope that this tour will come together.
>
> whatever. I still do not want to see DT opening for Queensryche...that
> will delay DT's headlining tour, which is what I am dying for...
I can't wait for it myself, but I really want to see DT get the
exposure and accolades they so richly deserve. I went back and
watched LiT the last few days....wow, I'd forgotten "To Live Forever"
was that good. Petrucci is just stellar on that. He deserves more
than he's gotten out of this ugly business we call the music industry;
hell, they ALL do. If that means playing some high-exposure shows as
an opening act, so be it. I'll wait. For a while....
--
............. Paul W. Cashman vanyel@crl.com ...................
Though we live in trying times, we're the ones who have to try
Though we know that time has wings, we're the ones who have to fly
................. "Everyday Glory" N. Peart .....................
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Date: Sat, 21 May 1994 23:27:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 399
> Lifeson vs. Petrucci:
>
> I think John has it all. Check out the IMPROVISED Bombay Vindaloo... Do
> you think, even as tight as Rush is, they could make up a song like
> that on the spot, good enough to warrent inclusion on a live
> album? His "Barfbag" solo is also full of feel... When it slows down
> before they jump into "A Fortune in Lies" Plus "Eve" is great also...
After seeing John's work in "To Live Forever", on the LiT vid, I no
longer have many doubts as to this comparison. He had me mesmerized.
--
............. Paul W. Cashman vanyel@crl.com ...................
Though we live in trying times, we're the ones who have to try
Though we know that time has wings, we're the ones who have to fly
................. "Everyday Glory" N. Peart .....................
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Date: Sun, 22 May 1994 12:26:18 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Timo Haanp{{ UPR <thaanpaa@ra.abo.fi>
Subject: Re: Comparing musicians
>I just love all these DT vs Rush musician by musician
>comparisons...every single one leaves out the guy who, IMO, makes DT
>infinitely better than anyone else...
I *did* remember him, but I didn't want to mention Geddy Lee a third time,
after all, in spite of some melodies, Lee only uses synth to fill empty
space.
BTW, I'd rather say "different," not "infinitely better." I wouldn't
want to raise some band above the others, because (almost :-)) every band has
its own sound and style, which they (hopefully) try to develop.
--
Timo Haanpaa, + Death is the first dance, eternal, deceit is the second
Finland + without end. The third is love, and love is the dance
thaanpaa@aton.abo.fi + of eternity. -- Dream Theater: Metropolis, Part I
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