YTSEJAM Digest 1002
Today's Topics:
1) Heh heh...
by Walking Dead <silenzio@elwha.evergreen.edu>
2) SEVEN STRING ACOUSTIC?
by YtseJammer <slowhand@wam.umd.edu>
3) pearly white teeth
by Matthew Sirois <ms014e@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
4) Re: Quick notes
by Dave Silva <silva@physci.psu.edu>
5) 1000? Not really. :)
by godfther@netcom.com (godfather)
6) Jam #1000, how sweet it was...
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
7) Re: New triva?
by "R. Hailey" <pass@homer09.u.washington.edu>
8) Joe Satriani
by "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
9) DT : LatM
by Chris Crowder <jccrowder@postman.harding.edu>
10) YJ #998-1000
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
11) New Jammer is coming!
by laussade@enet.net (praxxix)
12) HEy!
by digius23@potsdam.edu (Chris DiGiuseppe)
13) Just a thought....
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
14) Isn't it Spanish, not Italian?
by godfther@netcom.com (godfather)
15) Re: pearly white teeth
by "Hitchcock's Other Eye" <ancl@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
16) Trey's daily numbered Ytse comments
by tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
17) ATTN Stephen Soukup
by psifire@netcom.com (Mathew W. Yee)
18) Re: Joe Satriani/Fates/Cover Tunes(DTC)/Etc...
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
19) Re: YTSEJAM digest 999
by James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
20) a year after AWAKE
by My Porno Kite <bdon@wam.umd.edu>
21) Re: ACoS is mediocre
by Mad dog <jmh@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
22) Re: pearly white teeth
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
23) help with YES!
by "Abu Shams M. Ahmed" <mmahmed@mtu.edu>
24) New Releases
by tdunn@legend.txdirect.net (Trey Dunn)
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 16:43:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Walking Dead <silenzio@elwha.evergreen.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Heh heh...
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.951003164119.15375A-100000@elwha.evergreen.edu>
Glad to see the new guy's working out...
:)
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 21:22:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: YtseJammer <slowhand@wam.umd.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: SEVEN STRING ACOUSTIC?
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.951003211918.4137A-100000@rac5.wam.umd.edu>
OH MAN! YOU GOTTA BE SH*TTIng ME! :) ... 7 string acoustic! you sure
maybe they just didn't tune down a 6 string in a certain way so that they
had the B as the low, and stuff? Yikes! Or maybe it's his 7string run
thru a DSP to make is sound acoustic. Dunno. blows the mind!
So guys, what's your favorite Dream theater solo? My pesonal favorite is
the one from scarred, right before they start the "blood...heal me, fear
change me" for the second time, where it ends with messy sweep picking
... that's mine. i love it! Iworship it! <Bow down to God Petrucci!>
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 21:46:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matthew Sirois <ms014e@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: pearly white teeth
Message-ID: <199510040147.VAA15483@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
Seems to me that a lot of talk about Fates Warning goes on
here... Enough for a Fates mailing list? I'm pretty ignorant of how
something like the Jam gets started, but isn't there enough interest out
there to get something like that going for FW? just curious... I mean, I
know I've had to restrain myself here a couple of times from going off on a
tangent about FW here because this list is for DT... has anyone else
suffered the same problem? Or maybe just a progressive metal mailing
list... hmmm...
and the DT content:
To the guy who's willing to order the bootlegs [sorry I can't
remember your name]: is there any way you could post a relative
soundquality of these recordings? I realize that they are only boots, but
still the quality can vary a lot, and it would be nice to know which boots
are towards the lower end. Thanks!
On a weird note: why is it that in ACoS at 5:01 when James sings
"innocence" I hear Charlie singing "in a sense" from Status Seeker (0:49).
Ya, they're completely different, but still... Maybe it's my guilty
conscience fro not listening to WDaDU in so long...
And then from 9:50 - 10:06 in ACoS, all that background "oh"ing
sounds like... what is it? My god! Kansas! That's right, kind of sounds
like the background vocals in Fight Fire With Fire! (at least I think so)
Maybe James has been listening to Best of Kansas lately. :) Any members of
PotSW want to back this up? (that's People of the South Wind, the Kansas
mailing list).
By the way, the cover of Carry on Wayward Son recieved a favorable
review on that list, something I don't think they's give lightly. Yah!
Dream Theater! Kansas! Cadbury Eggs! (whaoh.)
I'd better calm down.
Long Live the Revolution!!! -Matt
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 23:04:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dave Silva <silva@physci.psu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Quick notes
Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9510032346.B1957-a100000@champs>
> Matt Sirois has in his signature file:
> "Mi lengua, mi lengua...se sale de mi boca." -Vai (no clue what it means!)
> Forgive my very *broken* Italian translation but I think it says:
> "My tongue, my tongue....the spice (salt in this case) of my mouth"
> Any Italian Jammers out there tells us what it really means???
You know, Italian and Spanish can be very similar at times, but I think
that the statement is in Spanish:
My language, my language (or is it tongue?)...it leaves my mouth
My spanish is VERY rusty, so this is not a definite translation.
Later,
Dave
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 14:35:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: godfther@netcom.com (godfather)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: 1000? Not really. :)
Message-ID: <199510032135.OAA19853@netcom16.netcom.com>
===kbibb said===
As long as the listproc doesn't double increment, this should
appear in the 1000th issue of Ytsejam! Thanks for your support
of this list--it has been interesting!!
===stopped===
Well, technically, due to the double incrementing, #1000 was probably
somewhere in the 800's.. But who's counting.. :)
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 17:50:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Jam #1000, how sweet it was...
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951003174351.12580C-100000@gorf.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Seems I mighta misled anyone looking for the "good" ACOS review
the correct URL http://www.pub.umich.edu/daily/10-02-95/10-02-95.index.html
(just curious, DID anyone look for it? e-mail me private-like)
right now, it hasn't yet shown up, but i talked to the systems guy
running the page....if and when it does show up, select Today's Stories
and scroll for the DT review.....
Otherwise, thought it was cool i could contrib to issue M
here's an echo to the guy saying hope i'm around for issue MM
(think roman)
Partha Mukhopadhyay
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 15:16:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: "R. Hailey" <pass@homer09.u.washington.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: New triva?
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.951003150750.35243B-100000@homer09.u.washington.edu>
On Tue, 3 Oct 1995, thus spake Randall Braun:
> I couldn't pass this up.
>
> --ELP did record a song called "Brain Salad Surgery" in conjunction with
> the album of the same name; however it did not appear on that album, but is
> on ELP's "Works vol.2." Led Zepplin recorded a song called "Houses of the
> Holy" that did not appear on their album of the same name, but on Physical
> Grafitti. The Doors recorded a song called "Waiting for the Sun", that did
> not appear on their album by the same name, but did come out on a later
> album. Does anyone else out there know of any other songs by a particular
> band which were also album names, but did not appear on the album by that
> same name?
I can think of one Off the Top of my Head:
Queen's 'sheer heart attack,' which appeared on 'News of the World'
'Sheer Heart Attack (the album)' was before 'News of the World'
chris
8 r.christopher hailey pass@u.washington.edu 8
8 steal this album: 8
8 - critters buggin' - 'guest' - 8
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 18:29:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Joe Satriani
Message-ID: <199510032229.SAA00216@grex.cyberspace.org>
> A non-DT note: Any of you heard the new Joe Satriani, called
> "Joe Satriani"? Anyone also think it's a bit of a let-down?
-I've heard it , and I have to say that, amoung all his albums to
date, including his self titled EP, I would have to rank his latest
endeavor as coming in dead last.
-John
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Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 17:34:44 CDT
From: Chris Crowder <jccrowder@postman.harding.edu>
To: YTSEJAM@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT : LatM
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Subject: DT: LatM
I've been subsrcibed to the list for about a week, and am glad I found it.
I've been a Dream Theater fan since about a year and a half ago when my best
friend had me listen to I&W. I had heard Pull Me Under before, but fell in
love with the rest of the album also. I have one request. Where on Mother
Earth can I find - Dream Theater : Live at the Marquee !!! I own all of their
"real" albums except this one, and I have tried extremely hard to find it.
Even Tower Records in Nashville didn't have it the last time I checked. Can
you all help?
Please E-mail me at <jccrowder@harding.edu>
I will really appreciate it.
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 16:25:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: YJ #998-1000
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.951003160025.49735A-100000@homer12.u.washington.edu>
To Everyone:
HAPPY 1000th YTSEJAM!!
To Anton Max, Happy Ytsejammer:
Thanks for the Fates Warning scoop. I'll have to check out "Perfect
Symmetry." The only album of theirs that I have is "Inside Out," and I
just can't get into it. "Outside Looking In" is the only song on the album
that I like(can listen to more than once). But at the moment I'm not a
Fates Warning fan.
While I'm at it, I'll go ahead and add that I don't like Rush. I've heard
three of their albums, and "Stick It Out" is the only piece of music I can
stand. But that's ok, because this is a Dream Theater mailing list, so the
only band I have to admire is Dream Theater.
And if I get flames for posting my "opinion," I'll be forced to post the
location of someone many Ytsejammers don't like, much as my honor code
dictates that I should not. :) Quite honestly, I held off before because,
tweaked as I was, someone pointed out yet again that an opinion is just an
opinion, not the truth...
To Howard Wiener, Happier Ytsejammer:
**** (that's four stars, not an obscenity) Damn (genuine obscenity) good
interpretation of "6:00!" You know, I've never really bothered reading the
lyrics particularly deeply, but what you said made a lot of sense.
Do you think the title of the song is "6:00" because "6:00 on a Christmas
morning" is the _present time_? We're given this story, all the background
on what this fellow is feeling, then we are brought to the "Christmas
morning" - the "moment of truth" when he can't bear to be there with his
family, and something is going to give? Either he tells all or leaves his
wife and family? This song could be describing that breaking-point at
which conflict must be dealt with, and the lyrics are about the build-up
and repression of that conflict... Hmmmm......
"The siren kicks him from a dream," he wakes up on Christmas morning not
from the shouting of his children or the sound of his wife's voice, but
from the "other" woman in his dream? A point to ponder.
To JIMMY, Happiest Ytsejammer Of Them All:
Ouch! Where's Michelle Garcia when you need her? Not that I'd expect you
to know who that is, but I'm sure some of the more open-minded Jammers
could tell you.
Bafu "Mercy Fuck" Vai
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 18:52:49 -0700
From: laussade@enet.net (praxxix)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: New Jammer is coming!
Message-ID: <199510040152.SAA10285@maple.enet.net>
Well,
Gave my friend the tape and he said that he likes it. I gave him
instructions for subscribing. He might have even subsribed earlier today; I
just can't say, Captain!
Has a bunch of stuff already been posted about the meaning of
Scarred? I don't want to post anything that's already been discussed
thoroughly.
As for what category of music Dream Theater should be put in, I
always liked "genre impaired". It's politically correct, too!
I recently bought my first Marillion album, "Afraid of Sunlight" and
I, well, didn't like it, to be honest. Is this typical Marillion, or is it
usually better? No offense to fans. Just curious.
BTW, how the hell do you pronounce Ytsejam?
****************************************************************************
*********Ben Laussade
laussade@enet.net
"Would ya like to buy a monkey?" Dave Letterman from "Cabin Boy"
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 00:04:58 -0400
From: digius23@potsdam.edu (Chris DiGiuseppe)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: HEy!
Message-ID: <v01510102ac977df5e18a@[137.143.109.210]>
Jaammers
Hey! What's up? I just wanted to know if any one could email me a copy of
this horrible review of Acos, I never got to read it. Personally, I
absolutely love the tune.
Also, I figured out all of Rush's "The Big Money" off Power Windows.
If any of you want the TAB(because good ol'sheet music wont fit here) I'll
email it to you. (Guitar and Keyboard only) I just figured that maybe
someone would want to play it or something, its a cool tune!
And finally, a double-slick ultra megaton wacky hello to B.Wherry!
Later-
digius23@potsdam.edu
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 00:31:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Just a thought....
Message-ID: <199510040431.AAA25638@umbc9.umbc.edu>
If I'm ever on trial for murder, give me a jury of Dream Theater fans
and I'm sure I'll walk away a free man. We are all so loyal to each other
and we can never let anyone influence our decisions. We'll stick together
and look out for each other no matter what the truth clearly points to.
.. Ashamed to be an American.
-- ************************************************************************** * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu * * * * You're fighting the weight of the world, * * and no one can save you this time. * * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. * * * * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater * **************************************************************************------------------------------
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 22:16:45 -0700 (PDT) From: godfther@netcom.com (godfather) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Isn't it Spanish, not Italian? Message-ID: <199510040516.WAA14587@netcom8.netcom.com>
Someone said----- Matt Sirois has in his signature file: "Mi lengua, mi lengua...se sale de mi boca." -Vai (no clue what it means!) Forgive my very *broken* Italian translation but I think it says: "My tongue, my tongue....the spice (salt in this case) of my mouth" Any Italian Jammers out there tells us what it really means??? Someone ended-----
It looks Spanish to me. It seems like it's saying: "My language, my language... it's coming from my mouth" or it's leaving my mouth"
I don't know, I've only had 3 years of high school Spanish.
Kind of a dumb quote, whatever the case.. :)
Ryan W. godfther@netcom.com
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 01:16:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hitchcock's Other Eye" <ancl@freenet.scri.fsu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: pearly white teeth Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9510040125.B26655-0100000@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu>
On Tue, 3 Oct 1995, Matthew Sirois wrote:
> By the way, the cover of Carry on Wayward Son recieved a favorable > review on that list, something I don't think they's give lightly. Yah! > Dream Theater! Kansas! Cadbury Eggs! (whaoh.) > I'd better calm down.
FWIW, although *I* dont have ACOS to add my own two bits, the folks on Paperlate, the Genesis ML seem to have mixed feelings about Turn It On Again, mostly related to its having been chosen (even though it IS a rather nice set closer) as opposed to DT's performance of it. There don't seem to be TOO many folks on both lists who have the EP....
Informationally, Andrew ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Elizabeth Taylor & Here in Al Capone slept here... Chicago "One down, one to go..." "Where Cubs and Bears Roam Wild" -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 95 02:38:12 -0400 From: tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Trey's daily numbered Ytse comments Message-ID: <9510040638.AA15830@junix.ju.edu>
1) >OH MAN! YOU GOTTA BE SH*TTIng ME! :) ... 7 string acoustic! you sure >maybe they just didn't tune down a 6 string in a certain way so that they >had the B as the low, and stuff? Yikes! Or maybe it's his 7string run >thru a DSP to make is sound acoustic. Dunno. blows the mind!
Any other thoughts? It sounds like a sven string acoustic to me...
2) Does anyone have that excellent review of ACOS by, I think a college, that was posted yesterday or the day before? I want it PLEASE!!!
3) >What I would very much like to see is a list of all official DT >releases with songs listed and the CD playing times at which >interesting things happen. You guys often mention 7/8th and god >knows what other time signatures. What I'd really like to see is >a list along these lines: > > 01'40" Myung plays a really cool myxolidian bit in 42/3rd time > sig here > 02'00" The whole time sig changes > 03'42" Pettruci changes between phrygian and godknowswhat here > 42'01" Mike Portnoy plays 7/8ths on the cymbals and 3/4th on > the bass drum...at the same time! >
GREAT IDEA!!! Lets do it!!! Maybe we can assign a half a song or two per qualified jammer. What do you think?
4) For those who have asked, being a Subconscious dub site only means you will dub the CD and stick the tape back in the mail. The reciever mails to you a tape, an envelope and some stamps unless you would rather have money to purchase this yourself.
5) I just got Consciously Real, Home Sweet Home, and the Majesty DEmos (THanks Jim) and it is cool to hear some of hte best musicians in the world making mistakes :-)
6) I was also wondering if anyone knows why it sounded like a flanger was run through the entire PA system. Was it a charecteristic of the DAT recorder or what?
____________________________________________________________________________ "...Every day there's a constant reminder of all the pleasures we shared together. Love is not just a passing word, it's a state of heart that goes on forever..." (Mike Portnoy of Dream Theater)
Trey Allen - tallen@junix.ju.edu - http://junix.ju.edu/UsrWebPages/tallen/home.html _____________________________________________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 23:48:39 -0700 (PDT) From: psifire@netcom.com (Mathew W. Yee) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: ATTN Stephen Soukup Message-ID: <199510040648.XAA07733@netcom17.netcom.com>
I got your money order for the Subcon dub, but you didn't leave me an e-mail address to confirm to you. Please contact me.
Thanks -- !@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@# ^ Mathew W. Yee & "Love is not just a passing word * It's a state of heart that goes on forever." psifire@netcom.com ! @ _A Change of Season_ CAA E-mail Administrator # Dream Theater $ !@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 95 22:25:02 PDT From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Joe Satriani/Fates/Cover Tunes(DTC)/Etc... Message-ID: <9510040525.AA05872@tengs1.teng>
> > somebody wanted to know about Joe Satriani's new album, here's what I got so far > > J.S : you know what:) > Manu Katche : drums > Nathan East : bass > Andy Fairweather : Rhythm Guitar! (I'm not kidding!) > he is supposed to tour extensively with possibly Stu Hamm and J. Mover. > Minhaz the Martian
Anyone who hasn't seen Stu Hamm in concert is definitely missing out, big time! I saw him with Satch on the FIABD tour and I was blown away. JM is definitely a great bass player, but he's more subtile. Hamm did stuff on his bass during his solo that I really didn't think was possible! The highlight was when he broke into "Linus and Lucy." I think he stole the show from Joe (along with Eric Johnson who opened). Must've been a bad night for Satch.
::Fates/King's X:
I think I may have implied that the production on Inside Out is bad. I don't think it is. Certainly not as bad as, say, When Dream and Day Unite. But it doesn't capture their live power at all.
King's X really never turned me on, but when I saw them open for the 'Scorps on the last tour, I had to say that their _live show_ was one of the most energetic and powerful that I've ever seen. Heh, I'm listening right now to that promo CD that was given away over the 'net about 2 years ago...
I think it may also have something to do with Ray's singing. When I saw them in Pittsburgh he used his higher range a lot more than he does on the album (even on the IO songs)...I think maybe they wanted to start toning it down so that in a few years when he doesn't have that range, they'll have a pretty solid repertoire of songs that don't require it. But for now, he's still belting it out live.
He'd better quite smoking those Marlboros, though.
::Cover Tunes:
BTW - James LaBrie covered those tunes better that anyone in the entire universe could have done. To go from Journy to Genesis with such precision and his killer tone made me cry. My girlfriend never liked DT until she heard "In the Flesh" - now she wants to borrow all my CD's!!!
I don't really think DT "covered" the songs in the usual sense. They sounded, besides James singing them, just like the originals. I'm still trying to figure out if this is better than them just doing the songs in DT style.
---Andy
::Adam Cook:
Hey all, Ok, here's a recap on my jamming-history. I'd been on a crappy unix shell account from my school for a while, just observing the jam, now that I finally have a slip connection it makes it a little easier to participate. Anyways, I'm 14 years old, a Freshman in highschool, and live in Lexington, Ma. ~~~~~~~ And it shows !>)> (sorry, I couldn't resist) I somewhat got into DT in '92 (I was only 11 at the time =) when I bought a cassette copy of Images and Words.
It's cool that dudes (any dudettes out there?) are so open-minded musically at that age; I know I wasn't. My friend's 16 yr old sister accuses me of being "close- minded" musically. "I like _everything_!" she says. Yeah, everything _popular_. Pop-rock (grunge/so-called "alternative" (okay, I like a lot of it, too) and pop-country. What gives? I'd "pop" her one if she weren't so damn cool (and unbelievably beautiful!>)>, otherwise.
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| | Adam Cook Dream Theater*Queensryche*Rush* | | Metallica*Fates Warning* |
Cool. Those are my top five favorite bands, except my order is: Rush (sorry, I got into them when DT was still doing demos), DT, Metallica, Fates Warning, Queensryche... everything else pales in comparison (not *really* true, bwth?)
Zach
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 02:04:18 -0400 From: James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 999 Message-ID: <Pine.DYN.3.91.951004020050.18744G-100000@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
Someone asked! (turn on brag mode) :)
I got into DT a few months after the release of WD&DU Golly - I'm so proud........ (it is kind of neat - I knew they were the next big thing but I had no idea they would be so successful)
I'm going to go stab some people now and get away with it.... :) Jay Peele For info on INFERNO, E-mail: jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 02:55:35 -0400 (EDT) From: My Porno Kite <bdon@wam.umd.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: a year after AWAKE Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.951004025303.5369A-100000@rac6.wam.umd.edu>
Well, it is exactly one year ago today that AWAKE came out. I must say that it is STILL constantly in my CD player. My top songs are voices, the mirror, scarred, and space-dye-vest. What a fucking awesome CD. I'm sure it will be in my CD player for eternity.
How's that for ACOS content?
****************************************************************************** Brandon "TIME WILL NOT DIM THE GLORY OF THE HAJJ" bdon@wam.umd.edu
"One likes to believe in the freedom of music; but glittering prizes and endless compromises can shatter the illusion of integrity"
- R U S H *******************************************************************************
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 23:56:02 -0700 (MST) From: Mad dog <jmh@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: ACoS is mediocre Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.951003233058.23301D-100000@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
> 'pandora---' J Lanctot <pandora@u.washington.edu> wrote: > On Mon, 2 Oct 1995 Ralph.Torres@Corp.Sun.COM wrote: > > > What is the problem? I prefer more tightly composed songs. ACoS tends to > > wander and has little focus - at least to these ears. It is growing on me, > > but I'm having to force myself to listen to it - this was not the case with > > sons written in the same era: PMU, TTT, LTL, Met-P1. > > Yeah... growing *very* slowly, for myself.
I actually havn't listened to it for a while. It is an incredible song, but it doesnt compare to DT in their top form, IMHO. The _Sub_ version is right up there, but the studio version just has lost something. Don't get me wrong, it is still an incredible song, as all DT is...
> > I prefer listening to the cover songs rather than ACoS > How about an even more blasphomous statement: > Im not all that impressed by their cover songs.
I have already gone into this, probably WAY too much. The cover songs dont do much at all for me. Definatly great stuff, some of the transitions are incredible, but... a) theres too much wrong with them (mainly James) b) theres nothing new about them except now DT does the songs...
Therein lies the rub. I have probably listen to this album less than most other 'jammers, when taking into account the amount of chances to listen to it. When I do listen to it, for the most part, it strikes me as awesome, but it doesn't have that something to make me wanna run home form MSE 222 and listen to it at a completely unreasonable volume...
Then again, recently I have been very critical of things that just don't seem to flow correctly, like the Simpsons, or... basically everything I try to write or do... sorry I suck...
A "Mad dog shaven head bottle boy Freak" aka John Haveman "D'accord je t'adore, au revoir, au revoir!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Long ago, Sin pumped through my veins, Long ago, The blood washed it away Still today, The night just makes me shiver, I hang my head, I shake myself, Am I that man forever? - Shiver - Tim Tabor
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 95 00:39:04 PDT From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: pearly white teeth Message-ID: <9510040739.AA06356@tengs1.teng>
> > Seems to me that a lot of talk about Fates Warning goes on > here... Enough for a Fates mailing list? I'm pretty ignorant of how > something like the Jam gets started, but isn't there enough interest out > there to get something like that going for FW? just curious... I mean, I > know I've had to restrain myself here a couple of times from going off on a > tangent about FW here because this list is for DT... has anyone else > suffered the same problem? Or maybe just a progressive metal mailing > list... hmmm...
Enough FW fans probably cruise a.r.m-p to nix that, but... And, there's enough Fates fans here to justify the FW content here and there. I push them on a.m.r. when appropriate.
> and the DT content: > To the guy who's willing to order the bootlegs [sorry I can't > remember your name]: is there any way you could post a relative > soundquality of these recordings? I realize that they are only boots, but > still the quality can vary a lot, and it would be nice to know which boots > are towards the lower end. Thanks!
Which ones? And what about that guy offering to sell LITS? There weren't that many people included in the cc list. Did everyone get this? LITS is the only good-quality IAW boot that I am lacking. The "Instrumental" #5. on disc 2 is the "March of the Tyrant," right? If so, I'm thinking of getting it since, even with overseas postage, it's still cheaper than I can get 2CD boots [easily] over here. Or, is Ranjit cheaper (I forget)? I'm sure as hell not going to give him my card # though.
> And then from 9:50 - 10:06 in ACoS, all that background "oh"ing > sounds like... what is it? My god! Kansas! That's right, kind of sounds > like the background vocals in Fight Fire With Fire!
Wow, I didn't know Metallica had backing vocals on that song !>)> > Maybe James has been listening to Best of Kansas lately. :) Any members of > PotSW want to back this up? (that's People of the South Wind, the Kansas > mailing list). > By the way, the cover of Carry on Wayward Son recieved a favorable > review on that list, something I don't think they's give lightly. Yah! > Dream Theater! Kansas! Cadbury Eggs! (whaoh.)
I think it's the best cover of them all. It's really clean.
> > Long Live the Revolution!!! -Matt
That reminds me of a post on one of the political groups (or was ie rec.guns?) where a guy asked: "What kind of guns will we need for the revolution?" (that was the whole post) Er, _what_ revolution?
Zach
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 05:34:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Abu Shams M. Ahmed" <mmahmed@mtu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: help with YES! Message-ID: <199510040934.FAA13483@colossus.csl.mtu.edu>
hi all,
sorry for the non DT stuff again. I was wondering if somebody could suggest what album to listen to for the first time listeners. I'm a huge fan of instrumentals so keeping that would be a great help. Thanks in advance!
by the way ..Congratulations to the jam for reching 1000...you guys are the one reason why I check my mail numerous times every day!!( o.k..I'm from mars and don't have many friends to send me mail through the computer we get it transunivarsal post man who happens to drive a tiny white van camoflaged as U.S post office :)
Minhaz
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 02:57:49 -0500 From: tdunn@legend.txdirect.net (Trey Dunn) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: New Releases Message-ID: <9510040757.AA28920@legend>
I just got some my new release sheet in. I compiled some of the more interesting ones for you. I see that we have a long wait until the next Dream Theater. November '96 is its tentative release day. Ok well see ya later.
LISTING:
10/03 Candlebox Lucy WB/jh 10/03 Iron Maiden The X Factor CMC/dav 10/03 Mark Isham Blue Sun 10/03 Meat Puppets No Joke ISL/aid 10/10 Cowboy Junkies 200 More Miles: Live 1985-94 /jb 10/10 Green Day Insomniac WB/kf 10/10 Gary Hoey Ho Ho Hoey 10/10 Indigo Girls 1200 Curfews [double live] 10/10 Ozzy Osbourne Ozzmosis 10/10 Joe Satriani Joe Satriani R 10/13 Def Leppard (Japan) Vault [Greatest Hits] /te R 10/17 The Cult Greatest Hits [2 CDs] 10/17 Dangerous Toys The R-tist 4-Merly Known as Dangerous... 10/17 Kathie Lee Gifford <title unavailable> WB/jh r 10/17 Iron Maiden Iron Maiden r 10/17 Iron Maiden Killers r 10/17 Iron Maiden Number of the Beast r 10/17 Iron Maiden Piece of Mind r 10/17 Iron Maiden Powerslave r 10/17 Iron Maiden Live After Death r 10/17 Iron Maiden Somewhere in Time 10/17 Yngwie Malmsteen Magnum Opus 10/17 Mother Earth The People Tree r 10/24 Monkees Pool It R 10/24 Monkees Greatest Hits 10/24 Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie &the Infinite Sadness VIRG 10/24 Toad the Wet Sprocket In Light Syrup R 10/31 Rick Astley Greatest Hits R 10/31 Def Leppard (US) Vault [Greatest Hits] /te,rm r 10/31 Iron Maiden Seventh Son of a Seventh Son r 10/31 Iron Maiden No Prayer for the Dying r 10/31 Iron Maiden Fear of the Dark r 10/31 Iron Maiden A Real Live One r 10/31 Iron Maiden A Real Dead One 11/07 Queen Made In Heaven HOL/arb r 11/21 Smithereens Attack of the Smithereens 12/95 Pearl Jam <title unavailable> /ja 01/30 Billy Idol <title unavailable> C 01/96 King's X <title unavailable> ATL/jzp 01/96 Poison Crack A Smile CAP/jzp 05/96 Fates Warning <title unavailable> MBR 06/96 Def Leppard Slang /te 07/96 Dream Theater <title unavailable> ELEK/ka
___________________________________________________________________________ _____ | | | | Trey Dunn | We gotta start feeding our souls | | "The Treyminator" | Have been lost to the millions untold | | Email: Tdunn@txdirect.net | Who feed on addiction selling pills | | | I wish I could save her from all the delusions| | | All the confusions | | | Of a nation that starves for salvation | | | | | | Jewel- "Little Sister" | ___________________________________________________________________________ _____
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