YTSEJAM Digest 1795
Today's Topics:
1) Autoreply Message
by svjohnson@amoco.com
2) jam
by Stan <sstys@earthlink.net>
3) cheap thoughts, by Rip
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
4) A trip to the CD store... (fwd
by Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
5) King's X & GC in AZ
by Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
6) Re: IME (no DT content)
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
7) Stuph ....
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
8) Ytsejam Information
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1792
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
10) Re: cheap thoughts, by Rip
by skooc@earthlink.net
11) Prognosis
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
12) Working Man (lyric file for RQ's CD Player)
by rquezada@shell.monmouth.com
13) Failing to find the Lost Land of the Snarg
by Phillip Scott Kish <pkish@tiger.lsuiss.ocs.lsu.edu>
14) thengs/ thay suckk
by Mike Estok <estok@teleport.com>
15) S G's first not worth it? are you crazy???
by vestal@usa.net (DUSTY VESTAL)
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Date: Mon, 2 Sep 96 20:55:48 -0500
From: svjohnson@amoco.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Autoreply Message
Message-ID: <199609030156.AA02129@interlock.amoco.com>
Item Subject: Auto Reply content.
I will be on vacation until Monday, September 9. On the 9th
and 10th I will be on official business. If it is urgent,
please contact Neil Geary at (312) 856-5373. I will be
returning calls/messages on Wednesday, September 11.
Steve
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Date: Mon, 02 Sep 1996 22:41:01 -0400
From: Stan <sstys@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: jam
Message-ID: <322B9ABD.539B@earthlink.net>
>
> I remember when we tried to do this before. I remember when it failed
> miserably. :) (my turn to be a pessimist) HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
If at first you don't succeed, try try again.
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Date: Mon, 02 Sep 1996 21:37:50 -0500
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: cheap thoughts, by Rip
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960903023750.006d9a60@mail.inlink.com>
well, might as well join in on this a little bit since its been such an
active and damned fun topic of discussion... i've been on the jam probably
about a half a year now... i first discovered the #ytsejam on EFnet one
evening back in december when i was searching for a DT chat room... i
believe it was Gabbo who was there, and later Augie popped in too... who let
me know about the dreamt. irc server, which had JUST gone into effect...
had i been a week, possibly even a day later, i'd've never found out about
this place. well... not right away anyway. the irc server was instantly a
killer... how much more wicked could you get... the only problem i had is
that i would NEVER get ops :) nowadays brand new people come in and get
opped just cuz someone, possibly even me, is trigger happy with the op
button. :) but back then (see, i'm already being nostalgic.. i'm gettin to
be an oooollldddd jammer, grinder;) unless you were on skadz's magic auto
ops list no ops for you :) i also remember a night from earlier when i hung
around which i still call to this day "rip on Rip night" i look back now
and figure it was all just jokes but at the time i really felt shit on...
but well, back then the guys just hadnt adjusted to my cow obsession... they
thought i had been up to it the previous night as a spur of the moment
thing... hahaha, boy were they in for a nice happy surprise. >:) the funny
thing is pretty much all the dudes there that eve later as i got the chance
to actually talk with em became really good ytse-buds of mine... shit this
is getting long isnt it? well, its not long right now but considering i'm
just getting wamred up i'll kill er off and just say that what i was going
to build up to... well hell you know what i was gonna say... :) this
place rocks and all you people rock. i went through a lot of crap and this
place was one of the only things (along with old Cheers re-runs) that kept
my spirits up... here friendship is different... you're not looking at
people pysically or the way they dress or how old they are or any of that...
the fact that we can become such great friends with people, without ever
opening our mouths, seeing them, hearing them, or tasting them (well ok, so
we dont taste all that many people)... but simply by putting thoughts down
to text, which is quite a thing to do, is simply amazing... i've got buds
in holland (Hi Mark! Hi Rudy!) whom i've never even been in the same country
with yet talked to daily... where else are you going to find THAT? long
live this place, you all rule to an unequivalence with other stuff that
rules. now lets keep this jam rollin'!
:)
~Rip
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Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 21:42:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
To: BLevy@aol.com, ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: A trip to the CD store... (fwd
Message-ID: <199609030242.VAA16910@parka.winternet.com>
> Awake (Oriental writing on side) for $32. I noticed somewhere on the list
> the question was asked why anyone should want to get this if they already
> have Awake, I was wondering the same thing...
>
And the answer is ...... Eve. This release contains a 3" mini disc of Eve.
But you might want to make sure it does contain the bonus CD. Hey the First
thing I do when I get home will be putting Eve in the Cd Player I a have
not heard it in ages!!! It is a great song.
nathan bradley
savaweb@winternet.com
http://www.winternet.com/~savaweb/
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Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 21:45:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: King's X & GC in AZ
Message-ID: <199609030245.VAA16999@parka.winternet.com>
AZ jammers,
King's X with Galatic cowboys will be playing the Mason Jar on Sept 11th
(Weds). If any jammers are interested we could gather at my place or some
where else before the show. Drop me a line if interested.
later,
nathan bradley
savaweb@winternet.com
http://www.winternet.com/~savaweb/
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Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 23:22:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
To: Markus Stahl <stahl@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: IME (no DT content)
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.960902232125.24320C-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> I have read a few comments on the new I Mother Earth album and wanted to
> tell all of you to... run out to your local record store and buy this cd.
> It totally kicks serious ass. It's definately not as repetitive as Dig as
> songs go. They do a couple 7 minute songs and most of all the rest are over
> 5 min. The album is "Scenery and Fish" go out and buy it.
> On the Second track, I think it's "Like a girl" there is a second singing
> that sounds mysteriously like Billy Corrigan from Smashing
> Pumpkins....anybody out that can confirm this or am i just hearing things....
Well, i have the new IME album, and i have to agree: it kicks some
serious ass. It's definate a pick up for the hard rockin' jammers.
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Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 23:33:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Stuph ....
Message-ID: <199609030333.XAA11433@wicked.stigmata.org>
Hey all ...
Soon after this, there will be a couple of posts from
me. The first (if the mail comes out in order) is information
about the list, subscribing/unsubbing, etc. PLEASE READ IT.
Even if you think you know it all, just read through it once.
It will be posted weekly for the next few weeks since there
will be an influx of subscribers with the school year starting
again. My time is going to be even more limit for the next
few months, so reading this information can save both you and
I time. Also, if you have any suggestions, etc, feel free
to mail me. After that, at some point, I will be posting
a normal post, which will prolly be lengthy since I haven't
posted in a while. Should be interesting :)
Just wanted to get that out now.
Later
Skadz
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Ryan P Skadberg skadz@soundlogic.com
Internet / Network / Systems Consultant
Sound Logic Consulting New Media Communications
http://www.soundlogic.com http://www.mindstorm.com
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for the first time in a long time everything was right
in my world and then i woke up
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Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 23:34:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Ytsejam Information
Message-ID: <199609030334.XAA11447@wicked.stigmata.org>
(IF THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU ARE SEEING THIS POST, PLEASE
READ IT THROUGH COMPLETELY, THERE IS ALOT OF IMPORTANT INFORMATION)
Hey All ....
Here is my new weekly posting about how to get the most
(or least if you don't like us) out of the ytsejam. This will
be coming out weekly (hopefully) at least for a while since we are
quickly gaining subscribers since school is now back in session.
I may post it less often after a while, but for now, it will be
weekly.
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Basic Rules:
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1. Do not post just for the sake of posting. There is already
a lot of valid traffic on this list, we don't need unnecessary
posts which are a waste of everyone's time. The basic rule
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done with the end results posted to the jam and it was very very
nice.
3. Do not start / participate in / complain about long off-topic
discussions. These have gotten WAY out of hand in the past.
If one starts, I will post once saying to stop and take it to
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Melon, bands selling out, etc.
4. Private E-Mail is a wonderful thing. Use it when you think it
may be more useful than posting to the jam.
5. Last, but not least, this is YOUR ytsejam. I am around,
and I do administrative work, but I do not say what can/cannot
be talked about (most of the time) or moderate in any real way.
I am the Ytsejam Administrator more than Moderator. Don't complain
if the jam seems to be going downhill, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
Basically, that is all the basic info. As always, if you have any
problems feel free to mail me. I get ALOT of mail on a daily basis,
so it sometimes takes me a while to get back to you, but 99% of the
time, I will get back to you eventually.
Thanks for Reading and Enjoy the List!!!
Skadz
Ytsejam Moderator
skadz@dreamt.org
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Ryan P Skadberg skadz@soundlogic.com
Internet / Network / Systems Consultant
Sound Logic Consulting New Media Communications
http://www.soundlogic.com http://www.mindstorm.com
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for the first time in a long time everything was right
in my world and then i woke up
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Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 22:37:01 -0500 (CDT)
From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1792
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.960902222558.16880B-100000@enteract.com>
A). Berklee is a MUSIC school. They pride themselves on being a good
jazz/fusion school, but any schooling is what you make of it. I have
friends who go there, and they claim that they came there expecting to
meet some amazing prodigy musicians, but were suprised to see that people
were only as good or even not as good as they were. One of my bass
playing friends in particular is more capable than the Berklee bass
department. Most of the amazing talents you hear out there are not
amazing because they went to Joe's $22,000 a year music school. They are
amazing because they put the time in, the developed THEIR OWN SOUND, and
they took advantages of their resources. If you do those things then
you're on track. Heh... look at DT! Not one of those dudes has a degree
in music, to my knowledge. Some F'ing fine talented college drop outs.
(I'm not knocking you, DT! Just making a point!)
B). I think that we'd have a HUGE chance of getting DT on Letterman if we
1). wait till the new album is DEFINATELY scheduled for release, and 2).
Generate MUCH interest in DT being on letterman. That means posting in
Newsgroups, mailinglists, and telling everyone you can to write Letterman.
If we don't all say we're from the Jam, they'll have no way of knowing
that we aren't just some small active percentage of an avid listenership.
I have seen no name bands on Letterman before. DT is not a no name. This
can work. We can even send give people a standardized letter to mail to
lateshow, if it would improve our chances. We just don't want a mail bomb
or childish mail loop program doing this. We should have each person
write only once.
my $.02
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Christopher Ptacek at Enteract, L.L.C.
Technical Support Engineer
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T h o u g l e e k i n g o n i o n e y e d d e a t h t o k e n
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Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 20:36:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: skooc@earthlink.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: cheap thoughts, by Rip
Message-ID: <199609030336.UAA26118@serbia.it.earthlink.net>
At 07:41 PM 9/2/96 -0700, you wrote:
>this place rocks and all you people rock.
You're still not getting my Bud Light, Rip :-)
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Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 23:20:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Prognosis
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.960902231437.16880F-100000@enteract.com>
Ah. I had no idea someone was playing around with the name Prognosis as a
Prog music thing before me, but it's perfectly logical to think someone
might have. Oh well. Thanks for the warning. When I posted to news I
made sure I said I would never be allowing ads on the list, nor would I be
selling anything or charging for anything. I do append that to say that
things like Mike Bahr's cd's will be advertised, since he's not a scam, or
making big money off the deal.
Thanks for the warning. Oh and to those of you who've subscribed thus
far, the list exists, but the issues won't pump out until bandwidth for
Progress #1 is taken up. Please be patient, and please do not hesitate
to post there, now or ever.
Check out Prognosis (and the Progress mailing list) at:
http://www.prognosis.com
Hasta!
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Christopher Ptacek at Enteract, L.L.C.
Technical Support Engineer
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T h o u g l e e k i n g o n i o n e y e d d e a t h t o k e n
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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 00:22:17 +0000
From: rquezada@shell.monmouth.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Working Man (lyric file for RQ's CD Player)
Message-ID: <199609030419.AAA05633@shell.monmouth.com>
For those of you who have the Working Man CD and my CD Player,
there's now a lyric file for the CD. If you don't have my CD Player, go
to http://www.monmouth.com and download a copy. It's free and runs
under Windows 95 and Windows NT 3.51 or higher. It's been tested
under NT 4 and works well (for those of you who own this).
rq
*********************************************
http://www.monmouth.com/~rquezada/home.html
RQ's CD Player (for NT/Win95)
*Uses special lyric files to view lyrics as they're sung.
*Can download these lyric files from internet and use them
without special configuration
*Divide songs into indices
*Example lyric files & instructions on how to make your own
***************************************
Look up ZIP+4 codes to get your mail to where it's going
faster within the USA.
http://www.usps.gov/ncsc/lookups/lookup_zip+4.html
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Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 23:20:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: Phillip Scott Kish <pkish@tiger.lsuiss.ocs.lsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Failing to find the Lost Land of the Snarg
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960902230816.32114A-100000@tiger4.ocs.lsu.edu>
Hi.
Regarding the Late Show deal, I think it's an interesting idea but I
really doubt it will do anything besides confusing the people that read
it. Let's wait until the new CD and then bombard them with the stuff.
In the meantime, let's try it now with another Prog band that is
supporting an album now. Galactic Cowboys, King's X, heck, with Rush
coming out with a new one, and actually being popular, we could try
them. I think it'd be interesting just to see what they would do. I do
agree that Conan O'Brian show would be a better outlet to try so we can
try them to. It's not to hard to imagine GC on LnwCoB. I can dream,
can't I?
Why do so many people quote so much stuff in the jams? It really bugs me
when I see the same stuff quoted over and over and over again.Sorry to gripe.
Man, just to think about the autoreply in ACK mode is SCARY!!!!!!!!!
I guess I'll go back into hiding again.
If you want to visit a REALLY CRAPPY web page visit Satan Barf's home
page at www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/2553. Make sure you
capitalize all the stuff. The page sucks but I want to figure out how to
add sound clips and crap so if anyone can help, mail me.
Oh yeah, one last thing. I saw Jason Becker on the MDA telethon today
and it was really sad. Eddie Van Halen appeared with him. They had
these ballet dancers perform one of his songs and it was pretty cool.
later
Satan Barf
"phillip"
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Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 21:51:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mike Estok <estok@teleport.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: thengs/ thay suckk
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.92.960902214359.5872B-100000@kelly.teleport.com>
> "In the court of the type-o king"
> -Mike Estok
He, thanqs men! Youere' prtyey ciol yoursoglf!
Right now in my life I am going thru the ultimate torture. My cd
player has been broken for 2 weeks now!! And it won't be repaired for
another 2!! So, I am going through my own little private hell. And there
is nowhere for me to listen to them. So how am I spending my free time?
Well, I'm
-reading every cd's liner notes that I have an illegal number of
times.
-Trying to perform every instrument (inc. and esp. voice) of my
most coveted cd's. (Mostly, DT, QR and Marillion)
-And listening to every fucking new song by metallica and
memorizing the radio station's playlist. (They are the same thing!)
Sucks, eh?
Oh yes...I'm currently in the process of looking at Universities
to attend next year. So, if anyone wants to give me some input. As in
where all teh cool jammers go...go ahead....please!!! :)
"Meoooooow, meeeeeooowww!"
-Rick's cat, as interpreted by Tempus
Michelob (Mike Estok)
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Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 23:26:20 -0600 (MDT)
From: vestal@usa.net (DUSTY VESTAL)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: S G's first not worth it? are you crazy???
Message-ID: <199609030526.XAA26073@mail.usa.net>
>
>I listened to SG. IMO, it's to Carved what WDADU was to IAW: a shot at it.
>Except that WDADU is ok and SG isn't worth it, because again, SG is no
You must be crazy for not thinking Shadow Gallery's first album isn't worth
it!!!... I think it's incredible for a FIRST album... The dynamic vocals on
it are worth it alone!... I think it has some beautiful songs on it,
especially considering how it was recorded in nothing short of a garage.....
Shadow Gallery is an up and coming force in progressive metal...
Take Care....Dusty
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| our senses we'll climb. But if faith is the answer, we've|
| already reached it, and if spirit's a sign, then it's |
| only a matter of time" ---- DREAM THEATER |
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