YTSEJAM Digest 1805
Today's Topics:
1) Autoreply Message
by svjohnson@amoco.com
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1804
by Henrik Gustafsson <henrik@thn.htu.se>
3) Re: MTv Music Awards
by jazzmin@pop1.backbone.ou.edu
4) most frequent poster
by Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
5) Rush Premeir & some bragging
by Cliff & Pam Wheaton <cwheaton@micron.net>
6) Re: MTv Music Awards
by Lisa Marie Peterson <peterson@fore.com>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1801
by Graham Borland <graham@grelb.src.gla.ac.uk>
8) Antidisestablishmentarianism
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
9) Re: frequent poster (again)
by Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1804
by WildKoba@aol.com
11) "To-See-D!" :-) & "Test For Ego"
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
12) Re: Skadz's rules
by Andrew Berry <andrew@aberry.demon.co.uk>
13) ELP/Keith Emerson in Concert
by Randall Braun <RBraun@tlr.ameridata.com>
14) Journey To The Center Of Nothing In Particular
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
15) Venus Isle-Single, Skadz legal???
by "Marcelo Vanzin" <vanzin@infinity.com.br>
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 96 09:25:08 -0500
From: svjohnson@amoco.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Autoreply Message
Message-ID: <199609061425.AA16342@interlock.amoco.com>
Item Subject: Auto Reply content.
I will be on vacation until Monday, September 9. On the 9th
and 10th I will be on official business. If it is urgent,
please contact Neil Geary at (312) 856-5373. I will be
returning calls/messages on Wednesday, September 11.
Steve
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 96 17:26 DFT
From: Henrik Gustafsson <henrik@thn.htu.se>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1804
Message-ID: <m0uz2ni-0002fKC@tellus.thn.htu.se>
At 07.20 1996-09-06 -0700, you wrote:
> YTSEJAM Digest 1804
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>
>Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 23:06:45 +-200
>From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
> Nr | E-Mail | Real name or nick EOJ | Posts
>----+--------------------------------+----------------------------+------
> 1 | mjnewb@mo.net | Dale R. Newberry | 53
> 2 | rterry@inforamp.net | Rick Terry 2 | 30
> -------
> 10 | adamb@cfmc.com | Adam Barnhart 2 | 12
>
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Hey!
Where is our "friend" Steve "auto-reply" Johnsson ???
IMHO he bet Dale by miles !!!
______
>
>Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:18:05 -0400 (EDT)
>From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
>This one is about posting rules. I have said MANY times
>that I really would like everyone to follow just ONE
>rule when posting. Think BEFORE you post.
>
>
>
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Do you think you two guys could work together on the next one !
Good things both of them.
Bye
Ooh,
That this too,
too solid flesh would melt
stated by Hamlet
Henrik Gustafsson henrik@thn.htu.se +46 520 47 50 49
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 96 10:33:01 -0500
From: jazzmin@pop1.backbone.ou.edu
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: MTv Music Awards
Message-ID: <323044280a04002@cliff.ou.edu>
CYCLONE WROTE:
>MTV awards: What's wrong with the world? It's unbelievable how someone
>like BECK can win an award, while DT, Fates Warning and other talented
>bands go unnoticed.
>
>------------------------------------------
>| Elvis Batur |
>| cyclone@securenet.net |
>| elv@geocities.com |
>------------------------------------------
Or Alanis Morrissette! EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! I thought Sinead O'Connor had an
irritating
voice until I heard this poor waif.
However, she *did* slag MTv in her acceptance speech, and that's all right
with me.
I hate MTv, but to its credit that's where I saw the video for "Pull Me
Under", the
first time, and subsequently bought the album (TV was on at a friend's
house). I just
remember the days when they would NEVER play commercials, like (thinks HARD)
1984, I
guess, when it first came to Oklahoma City. Now it's all commercials, no
fun, and the
videos are unfortunately forced to conform to the standards of MTv, which
sucks. A
Christian video I liked ("666" by DeGarmo & Key) would get played on the
Christian
video show that TBN had, I forget what that was called, but the artists had
to cut it
to fit MTv's liking. (A shot of a guy on fire, it was fine for the
Christian people
I suppose because it was supposed to be Hell, but not okay for regular
circulation.)
But what did y'all think of KISS? I missed that part.
Jazzmin Sommers
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I lost my instructions on how to change this in the list server, can someone
email me
instructions PLEEEEEEEEEEEEse? Thank you kindly!
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Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 11:11:45 -0600
From: Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: most frequent poster
Message-ID: <32305B51.585B@mo.net>
>1 | mjnewb@mo.net <snip> | 53
AHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! OH MAN!!!!!! I had no idea I posted quite THAT much.
Wow. Man, I need to calm down a bit here. I knew I was a bit more
active than before, but I had no idea it was THAT bad. Sorry for all
the clutter everyone :).
I have been thinking about the jam ever since Mr. Bahr's amazingly
eloquent post recently, and I must say that it is a great thing. I
couldn't put it better myself. Later all.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 10:50:11 -0600
From: Cliff & Pam Wheaton <cwheaton@micron.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Rush Premeir & some bragging
Message-ID: <32305643.318D@micron.net>
Hi all!!
Been awhile since I've posted, oh well:)
Did anyone record the Rush Premier? If so, I'd like to talk to you about
making a dub for me-the radio station that WAS going to do it didn't,
and really left me irritated at them. Please privately e-mail me about
this-soon!!! I have blanks, and I'm willing to also make a trade if
necessary. Lets work something out-I'm desperate. BOISE RADIO SUX!!!
On to brighter notes-
I have in my dirty little paws tix for both Tull/ELP and Alan Parsons
Project. Being that the shows are about 3 days apart, and my day off is
the day after Parsons, I actually will be taking off about 3 days that
week-Happy mini-vacation for Pam!!! YAY!!!!
Congrats to Mike Bahr-May your marriage last as long and be as great as
mine has!!! Cliff & I are going on 13 years as of june of 97!!!./me
stops and pets Wiseguy.
The cab biz has been a bit slow, but fun. The weather has been nice, The
big range/forest fires the were nearby are now completely out.We went
out & got a new TV & VCR, and I got real headphones. I'm having my own
Rush premier with a very good friend Tuesday(the 10th) I can't wait!!!
I also sat down and listened to all my DT last nite-fr4om WDADU to
ACoS,then Mind control and Acoustic Dreams to top it off. I still like
Awake the best of what I have.I have decided that I really need to win
the lotto and then contact Mike B for his cd's. wishful thinking here!!!
heehee :)
oh well, enuf wandering around with the keyboard. Gotta go to work
soon.I'm still trying to decide which tunage to take with me at this
point.
Keep rockin'
Pam
Life is
--
Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton
_____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace
</__"Rockin Cabbie"__\o “THE INTERNET”
0 0 E-mail:
cwheaton@micron.net
URL:http://netnow.micron.net/~cwheaton
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Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 09:16:46 -0700
From: Lisa Marie Peterson <peterson@fore.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: MTv Music Awards
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960906161646.00683c90@irvin>
At 08:39 AM 9/6/96 -0700, you wrote:
>Jazzmin Sommers
>---------------------------
>| NEW EDDRESS!!!!!! |
>| jazzmin@ou.edu |
>---------------------------
>I lost my instructions on how to change this in the list server, can someone
>email me
>instructions PLEEEEEEEEEEEEse? Thank you kindly!
Hi Jazzmin! I printed the instructions when I first joined, so
here it goes...
Send your request to: listproc@ax.com
in the body of the message: SET YTSEJAM ADDRESS
yourpasscodehere newemailaddresshere
Of course, what are the chances you still have your passcode? If
you don't have it, I don't know. Maybe you should unsubscribe, and
then re-subscribe.
You can get all the instructions by sending a request to:
listproc@ax.com
in the body of the message: HELP
See ya Jammer!
Lisa
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 18:00:18 +0100 (BST)
From: Graham Borland <graham@grelb.src.gla.ac.uk>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1801
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.93.960906175815.6833A-100000@grelb.src.gla.ac.uk>
D-Man wrote:
> I've yet to meet a Dream Theater fan that I don't like.
Neither have I. I've been to many concerts, but the only concerts where
the fans in the queue outside were all sharing food and drink, even
though we were all complete strangers, were the DT concerts.
We are wonderful :-)
Graham B.
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| graham@grelb.src.gla.ac.uk |::
| http://grelb.src.gla.ac.uk:8000/~graham |::
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:11:06 -0700
From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Antidisestablishmentarianism
Message-ID: <199609061711.KAA17606@main.cfmc.com>
I'm going to resist further comment on this Metallica thing and move on...
Shadow Gallery sounds like Queensryche? Hmmm....I've only got "Carved In
Stone," but I sure wouldn't say that they sounded too much like Queensryche
on that one. I think it's a hell of a record....right now, I think I'm
liking it more than the Cairo record, but I haven't had the Cairo record as
long, so I'm gonna hold off on a comparative judgement. Shadow Gallery,
though, seems to be one of the best of this wave of prog bands. They've
really put it together, I'd say....I think they've got some idea of how they
want to sound at this point.
I like the Cairo record an awful lot, though, too. It isn't really a Dream
Theater/Fates Warning/Queensryche sounding record. It's more like Marillion
or Camel or ELP in that they're a lot more keyboard-driven, as a lot of
people have pointed out. Still, they've got a good balance of aggression
and melody, and it's a record that grows on you.
The Alice In Chains record seems pretty impressive to me. I remember the
show getting a lukewarm reception by a lot of people (I still haven't seen
it), but the record REALLY works. I mean, they've got some good material to
play. I'm disappointed that "Am I Inside" wasn't on the record, but that
issue aside, I'd recommend it to a fan of the band.
Adam D. Barnhart
adamb@cfmc.com
ydnt85a@prodigy.com
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Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 12:48:39 -0600
From: Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: frequent poster (again)
Message-ID: <32307207.1BB8@mo.net>
Well, now that I think about it, it is rather odd that I got this with
no EOJ's, and with pretty much completely avoiding the Metallica and
VanHalen discussions that were going on. I wasn't even trying for it,
either. Hmm.
I played part of Working Man for a friend of mine who pretty
much hatesmost prog (calls DT glam - the jerk), and he was really
surprised when I told them that it was a Rush trib., and that it was
Sebastian Bach singing on the title track (all he pretty much knows of
Skid Row is 18 & Life/Youth Gone Wild). He still wasn't too keen on
JL's vox, though (this dude's into hard core stuff mostly). Oh well,
I'll keep trying on him. Later, guys.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 13:55:42 -0400
From: WildKoba@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1804
Message-ID: <960906135541_517126584@emout13.mail.aol.com>
here's some more vai info for those interested. this is an excerpt of an
email i got from the head of "greasy kid's stuff", vai's fan club.
<Date: Thu, Sep 1996 20:28 EST
From: GKS MAIL
Subj: VAI "FIRE GARDEN" PRE-ORDERS!
To: GKS MAIL
bcc: Wild Koba
(mailing list update, September 5 1996)
HELLO AGAIN!
This is proving to be a pretty busy week for these updates! And you'll
likely get one more within the next few days too, with more tour dates for
the Vai/Johnson/Satriani G3 tour! But things are happening fast 'n furious
around here these days, so here we go with another quick update for you.
You can now order your copy of Steve Vai's new "FIRE GARDEN" disc! For all
the details, just go to Vai's official website (http://www.vai.com)! You can
now place your order(s) for the new album, and pay only $11.98 plus shipping!
You even have your own choice of how its shipped. If you want the album to
show up on your doorstep the day its released, go to the website now and find
out how! International orders are also accepted. YOU CAN ALSO PREVIEW THE
ALBUM FROM THE WEBSITE!!! :)
As we said in the previous update, the new album features 18 new tracks and
some killer cover artwork! It will be in the stores on Tuesday Sept 17.
Let's get more instrumental rock music on the radio! Call and/or fax your
local rock radio stations and request it!
Steve Vai's orchestral performance in Rochester, New York is scheduled for
September 28th. Tickets are now available from Ticket Express, at
716-222-5000. This show will be cybercast live over the internet, for
details jump on Vai's official website at http://www.vai.com.
G3 confirmed tour dates so far (more to come soon)...
Oct. 11 SAN FRANCISCO, CA (Concord Pavilion)
Oct. 12 LOS ANGELES, CA (Hollywood Bowl)
Oct. 13 SAN DIEGO, CA (Hospitality Point)
Oct. 14 LAS VEGAS, NV (The Joint)
Oct. 15 PHOENIX, AZ (Mesa Amphitheatre)
Tickets will be available from the usual outlets (Ticketmaster, etc). Call
Ticketmaster for info about when they go on sale. Tickets for the Los
Angeles concert (featuring Adrian Legg and Kenny Wayne Shepherd as well!) go
on sale this Sunday!
For information on Greasy Kid's Stuff, the Official Steve Vai fan club &
newsletter, send us your full name, mailing address and telephone number and
we'll get some info to you right away. Or, if you just want to go ahead and
become a member of GKS, send $10 ($12 in Canada, $17 foreign, US funds) to:
GREASY KID'S STUFF
PO Box 36E65
Los Angeles, CA USA 90036-1465
Membership privileges include a one-year 3-issue subscription to the official
Steve Vai newsletter (which, upon our return from the tour, will likely be
going full-color instead of black & white!), and a special Steve Vai guitar
pick. (Update letters will be sent out during the tour in lieu of the
regular newsletter, but these update letters will not count as regular
newsletters, so they won't affect your subscription).>
*****************************************************************
david kobayashi
the wild and magical koba
"i'm using the chicken to measure it." -some freak on "uncle meat".
"for 20 long years, i could not read music. but now, thanks to 'hooked on
funk'...."- dean, screaming headless torsos.
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 20:02:33 +-200
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'EyeLuvDraemThaetRE :)'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: "To-See-D!" :-) & "Test For Ego"
Message-ID: <01BB9C2E.8292AD60@Traveler.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
___D_T___-___2___C_D___
Just read this in alt.music.dream-theater :
> Here's a quote from the metal column in 'Beat' (a street newspaper
> here in Melbourne, Australia):
>
> 'Dream Theater are lobbying their record label to allow their upcoming
> album to be a double album. The recording is set to commence shortly
> with Metropolis Part 2 set to get a guernsey'
Maybe it's up to *us* to convince EastWest that a 2CD *would* be the
way to go !!! :-) If the guys themselves want the next album to be
a double, they must have enough quality stuff to use for it...
If they *do*, *I* wanna have it !!! Are you guys with me on this ? :-D
___T_e_s_t___F_o_r___E_g_o___
I just got 'Test For Echo' today :-) (on it's release date, of course)
The songs are cool, as usual... But personally, I like Counterparts
better (way better)... Maybe I'll just have to listen to it some more...
As in *all day long* (loud!) Oh yeah, I *LOVE* the artwork :-)
The picture that goes with "Resist" is my favourite one, right now.
Favourite track so far : "Driven"
Itchy, Brought to you by the letter "R - r - r - r"
_________________________________________________________________________
Dog years - It's the season of the Itch(y!) Rush-Dog years :)
Dog years - With every Scratch(y!) it reappears _____ ___ _ _ _ _
Dog years - For every sad son of a Bitch(y!)(`)(_```_)/``_)(`)_(`)(`)_(`)
Dog years - With his tail between his ears | | ) ( ( (_ | _ | \_ /
____________________________________________(_) (_) \___)(_) (_) (__/
"If you want something done right... just forget it." (Rush '96)
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Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 11:15:08 +0100 (BST)
From: Andrew Berry <andrew@aberry.demon.co.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Skadz's rules
Message-ID: <Marcel-0.99-0906101508-b49W1kb@aberry.demon.co.uk>
On Thu 05 Sep, Pat Daugherty wrote:
> You forgot one Skadz!!!! No autoreply messages if you are going to be
> away for weeks...
>
That guy's going to feel *so* embarassed when he gets back from his holiday,
fetches all the jams he missed and finds that every tenth message is his
own autoreply...
Hehe!
--
+-----Andrew Berry--------------------- http://www.aberry.demon.co.uk -----+
| "You're waiting for tomorrow, well tomorrow never comes. |
| Ha, you're waiting for your new dawn, so sad to say there isn't one. |
+- Because (you fools) tomorrow belongs to nobody." - Carcass ------------+
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Date: Fri, 06 Sep 96 12:27:00 PDT
From: Randall Braun <RBraun@tlr.ameridata.com>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: ELP/Keith Emerson in Concert
Message-ID: <32308D9F@mailgate.ameridata.com>
> ELP can put on quite a show.
>>>I saw ELP in the mid 70's, exploding synthesizer and all. I heard that
before the age of the synthesized keyboard, Keith used to stab his
analog organ to get it to short out and produce wild sounds. So it's
true: that damn rock music does cause kids to be violent!! :) Time to go
stab me a few twinkies, hehe...
KE began his keyboard experimentation at least as early as The Nice. Beside
his use of knives, he did, and still does, toss the smaller of his Hammonds
(model L-100, I don't think he uses his larger 3C(s), they usually have
keyboards piled on top) about onstage to use the mechanical reverb spring as
an added *special effect*.
I've also read of an incident about Rick Wakeman and his short stint with
the Strawbs, before Yes. During the show, he accidently tossed the organ
off the stage. The audience thought it was part of the show!
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:45:14 -0700
From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Journey To The Center Of Nothing In Particular
Message-ID: <199609061845.LAA09934@main.cfmc.com>
>From: jskewes@why.net (jskewes)
>
>Check out the Steve Vai site: http://www.vai.com
>
>He's got two new songs out there (in their entirety) from his new album Fire
>Garden. The album comes out Sept 17. As you know, he's going on a six week
>tour in October with Eric Johnson and Joe Satriani.
>
>Vai also is playing with an orchestra on Sept 28th - and it'll be broadcast
>over the net.
>
>Check out the song 'Fire Garden' on the site. It's about 10 minutes long -
>there's some parts in there that remind me of DT! Check out the section
>about 5:45 into the song!
This is pretty damn exciting stuff! As was mentioned in an earlier jam,
they're doing the Bay Area (where I am) on October 11th....I'm waiting with
baited breath, man. Two of the best shows I've seen are Satriani with
Stevie Salas and Eric Johnson with Sara Hickman. Of course, the one show
most like this one was the Satch/Johnson/Riverdogs show. And I don't mean
to knock the Riverdogs, a decent band, but Vai is out of this world. And,
of course, you can hear his influence on our beloved Petrucci here and there
("Under A Glass Moon").
>From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
>
>Speaking of sons written for "lite-rock" stations,
>I *have* heard a single on the local "adult-contemporary"
>station (co-workers listen to it, but actually it's not
>that bad). On the local AOR station, I haven't even heard
>any news of the album *at all*. Looks like I'll pick this
>one up on the 10th along with TFE and Lemur Voice (coming
>out on the 10th, if I remember correctly).
Yeah....our local Volvo Driving station has picked up "SRV" and is currently
playing it to death! Great tune, though....but making me wait 4 years
before giving me a record with it....too much....
Adam D. Barnhart
adamb@cfmc.com
ydnt85a@prodigy.com
Five Gratuitous CD's:
=====================
1. Sublime: Sublime
2. Rush: Rush
3. Dream Theater: Live At The Marquee
4. Dar Williams: The Honesty Room
5. Black Flag: Who's Got The 10 1/2
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:55:57 -0300
From: "Marcelo Vanzin" <vanzin@infinity.com.br>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Venus Isle-Single, Skadz legal???
Message-ID: <199609061947.MAA10894@mindcrime.ax.com>
|And about Skadz now being legal... does this mean he's of
|the legal age of consent (18), the legal drinking age (21),
|or that he finally got his green card?
Actually, he's in the age of drinking, gambling, and other cool stuff that a 17 year old guy can't even imagine. At least in the USA (you should all move to Brazil :))) ).
Happy birthday Skadz! As usual, I didn't find you in the IRC (well, I can forgive you for that night).
--
[]'s
Marcelo Vanzin
mailto:vanzin@geocities.com
mailto:vanzin@infinity.com.br
One more? mailto:vanzin@dreamt.org
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/index.html
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