YTSEJAM Digest 1846
Today's Topics:
1) Test For Echo
by NUPRIN <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
2) Re: Fire Garden
by NUPRIN <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
3) division by zero
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
4) LiT in Oregon? and a thought-provoking comparison
by Mike Estok <estok@teleport.com>
5) The pains of selectivity
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
6) Win95 Dream Theater Theme pack
by Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu>
7) Tori Amos
by Ed Reed <ereed@comp.uark.edu>
8) Music appreciation, and other BS
by BLevy@aol.com
9) Re: Long time away....need help catching up.
by Purplerx7@aol.com
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1845
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
11) Waiting period is OVER :)
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
12)
by akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch
13) michael wilton, "fire garden", robert fripp
by <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool"
14) don't care about lyrics.....
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
15) GTR and net-admins
by John Mastin <johnny@psa.pencom.com>
16)
by
17) too many jams, not enough bread
by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 21:44:09 -0500 (CDT)
From: NUPRIN <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Test For Echo
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.960917214140.6140A-100000@wichita.fn.net>
Man, they've gotten a LOT simpler!! I don't know if I haven't gotten
used to the new songs yet, but right now (only the third listening) I
only like a good 4-5 songs!! Man, I hope it grows on me....and man I
also hope Neil is just going thru a phase...I mean, he's so simple its
almost scary. But after 25+ years of playing his complex (and ultra cool
I might add) style, I can understand why he would want a change of pace.
But what does everyone else think?
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John Nguyen
(aka NUPRIN)
musican, artist, programmer, lover, parent
http://www.feist.com/~nuprin
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"...all I want is to have my peace of mind..."
-- Boston
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 21:45:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: NUPRIN <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Fire Garden
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.960917214513.6140B-100000@wichita.fn.net>
Hey, I dig this album also. Kinda strange, but cool nonetheless!!
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John Nguyen
(aka NUPRIN)
musican, artist, programmer, lover, parent
http://www.feist.com/~nuprin
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"...all I want is to have my peace of mind..."
-- Boston
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Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 00:11:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: division by zero
Message-ID: <199609180411.AAA20539@beasley.cris.com>
>partha said:
>>Infinity, am I right???
>
>
>Wrong. division by zero is undefined. You can't do it. try it on a
>calculator:) whoa now i sound nerdy.
Um... I don't know what started this thread but....uh.....I think the answer
is indeed infinity, for whatever it's worth. I could elaborate, but I won't,
'cause it ain't DTC. Trust me on this. ;-)
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\***************** Richard S. Audet ********************/
/****************** ytse@cris.com ********************\
\**** Graduate Student in Electrical Engineering ******/
/********* University of Florida ********\
\****** B.S.E.E. & B.Music MUE University of Miami, 1995 ******/
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 21:16:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mike Estok <estok@teleport.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: LiT in Oregon? and a thought-provoking comparison
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.92.960917211226.19181A-100000@linda.teleport.com>
Hey!
Any jammers in Portland, do you know where I could find the
coveted video "Live in Tokyo" in the Portland area? I can't find it
anywhere!! Please e-mail me privately. Thanks!
And also...
Today I was in tower records, and I was playing around on the
musicsearch computer. I had Awake on it, and there was a review. GET
THIS! The guy really liked it (3/4 stars). He compared their music as
"elements of progressive rock Yes combined with modern Guns N' Roses." I
swear!! Then he said they have a fantastic lead singer in vein of Geddy
lee and Axl Rose! i couln't belive it.
Mike
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Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 00:30:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The pains of selectivity
Message-ID: <199609180430.AAA00929@beasley.cris.com>
I have a small problem. Even though I love DT something fierce (at least for
now), I've been keeping a list of bands that people mention so I might check
into them and hopefully find something new to listen to. Well, one band
mentioned more than any other seems to be Shadow Gallery.
I looked into this one, Carve In Stone in particular. And unfortunately, I
don't like it. I'm saying this so that others with musical taste similar to
mine (see below for a description) will "look before they leap" when
considering this album. <breaks out in sweat from anticipated flames>. See,
I think they have kind of a cool sound, but their songs are, dare I say it,
cheesy. They sound to me like they wish they were DT, but don't have the
songwriting maturity of DT. I don't know, I can't really elaborate on it; I
just think they're trying too hard. That's just my little caviat. Please
don't hate me. :)
While on the topic of my search for new and interesting music, does anyone
know where I could find some sound clips of Lemur Voice? I'd really like to
hear this band (which is mentioned here almost as often as SG) before
dishing out the cash for it.
Oh, and just to give a little sample of what I'm into musically, here's what
I'm listening to nowadays, besides DT:
Pantera, T-Ride, Tears for Fears, Cocteau Twins, Deep Forest, The Prodigy,
Future Sound of London, The Cure, The The, Rush, Pat Metheny, Material, Extreme.
...just to name a few. If any of you are in the same musical boat as I,
please email me with suggestions.
Thanks.
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\***************** Richard S. Audet ********************/
/****************** ytse@cris.com ********************\
\**** Graduate Student in Electrical Engineering ******/
/********* University of Florida ********\
\****** B.S.E.E. & B.Music MUE University of Miami, 1995 ******/
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Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 00:40:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Win95 Dream Theater Theme pack
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95L.960918003932.15377B-100000@labdien.cc.columbia.edu>
Dear jammers,
The Win95 theme pack is available at the Official Dream Theater web page
at http://www.rsabbs.com/dt, in the miscellaneous section of the archives.
Yours,
Jeff =)
<*> Jeff Chew <*> http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309/ <*>
<*> jc309@columbia.edu <*> jeffc@dreamt.org <*> jchew@rsabbs.com <*>
<*> (516) 674-4828 <*> Dorm (212) 853-2238 <*> Beeper (917) 712-4828 <*>
"Smile! No one will know what you're up to!" --- Lea Salonga
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 23:44:23 -0500 (CDT)
From: Ed Reed <ereed@comp.uark.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Tori Amos
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.960917234311.20110A-100000@comp.uark.edu>
Hey, anyone got Tori Amos tour dates? Specifically dates around the 13th
of October (?) in Little Rock, Arkansas... someone told me that she is
doing a show there, but didn't know the date for it. So, if you got some
Tori tour info, please send it to me: ereed@comp.uark.edu
DrX.
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| I am the way, I am the light... | Ed Reed |
| I am the dark inside the night. | ereed@comp.uark.edu |
| I hear your hopes, I feel your dreams... | ehr@engr.uark.edu |
| And in the dark I hear your screams. | drx@reich.uark.edu |
<=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=|=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=->
| Don't walk away, just take my hand... | |
| And when you make your final stand... | Savatage -- |
| I'll be right there, I'll never leave... | 'Believe' |
| All I ask of you is Believe. | |
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Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 01:08:02 -0400
From: BLevy@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Music appreciation, and other BS
Message-ID: <960918010801_104606488@emout20.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 96-09-17 14:39:49 EDT, Syrinx wrote:
<<
HEY@!
You know, i'm all rootin-tootin' pissed at all of you. You all
are forgetting the greatest YES album in all of history:
DRAMA.
>>
YES!!! Thanks Mike, I thought I was the only person in the WORLD who even
KNEW about this release (is it on CD??). It is never mentioned, never
performed live, almost never referred to (probably due to the noticeable
absence of a YES heavy). But IMO (And yours, I guess), THIS was a monumental
LP. 'Does it Really Happen?' and 'Run To the light'(?) are probably my
FAVORITE Yes tunes ever (my leanings are more to a 'modern' progressive
style). I also think that the same things I love about DT, are what I loved
about Tempus Fugit, or Machine Messiah. They take you places that are beyond
words.
This is a good seque into a thought I wanted to share with all: I notice
that a lot of people here will comment on SO n SO's playing, or SO n SO's
lack of talent or whatever it is that they are focused on. I want to make a
point that some of you, while focusing on the instrument of your interest,
lose the view of the song as a whole. Now before anyone starts to naysay,
almost all of us are guilty of this to some degree or another (especially you
performers and musicians), BUT I have seen very few who are excessive in this
point of view. I just want to mention that there is more to a song than the
sum of it's parts.
Something in a song will reel me in, whether it be Neil's sharp poetic
insights, his Amazing drum licks, or JP's amazing work. After the initial
HOOK, there has to be something more substanital for me to support the whole
band. Like Fish's amazing vocal presence in the OLD marillion, if the song's
did not support the lyrics, and accentuate them; if the musicians did not
bring something to the table, and create a whole new place in reality with
their music, I would not have been as loyal a supporter of them as I was (and
may be in the future, their new stuff aint bad). DT is the same for me.
JP's guitar would not keep me interested alone. MP's drumming would not
keep me coming. JLB's strong vocals would not keep me here Put them all
together, and you have something that I think is much bigger than the sum of
the parts. If JLB screws up a night in concert, we may kringe a little. If
JP does not hit all the notes (yeah, right), we may notice, but I do not
think many of us would say anything. The song is usually still intact, and
can still accomplish for me what I believe most music is meant to do for all
of us: Transport us to a place that words can not describe.
That's enough on that thought (it sounded better in my head). ON to the
next:
To the person who is complaining about non-DT posts, I agree in some
respects, but not to the extent you go. This list is much more than the sum
of it's parts. Did you not read Mr. Bahr's posts, did none of it sink in,
this list is NOT solely about DT. It is a place where people who like ,
love, support, are interested in, or have heard of DT can come and exchange
information and views with others who may have NOTHING else in common with
anyone else here except that they are interested in DT. The list is NOT
populated by a bunch of empty headed people who have nothing else in their
lives except DT (well, except me maybe;)), and there may be others on the
list who have other interests in common, like Computers, sports, Underwater
basket weaving, or even that wierd assinine cult rterry has formed ( no
flames, I made the comment solely for the purpose of the pun;)) and presides
over. We share info about whatever we feel like, if someone starts something
that really has no place here, either the majority will make it's will known,
or the list owner will. Just because you are getting bored, or don't care
about some of the crap being said here, skip it (like many are doing right
now :( ), I do; yes, it still takes time, but deal, this is a public forum.
You have to sort through the crap to get the gems. I am finding a lot of
new bands here. I don't even listen to the radio outside of my car, so I am
COUNTING on this list for information and referrals!!
Oh, way at the top of the last paragraph, I said that I also agree with the
idea of restraint, I really hate those stupid replies to other stupid
comments. If you ask me, that is true clutter. When someone says something
stupid, then someone else comments on the stupidism, then it goes back and
forth, how many times do we have to see the stupid "grunt, love that one word
reply, no it was actually one word five times". BS. COME ON, the first time
was stupid enough (but not alone worth a complaint in my view), but the
constant reposting and quoting of that stupid post was just dumb!
I've gone on way too long, didn't mean to bitch, but got into it a bit. I
bought TFE over the weekend along with Mellon Collie, Escape From LA
soundtrack, New Type-O, and last but not least, in the used bin, Passion and
Warfare. So much to listen to, nothing has really sunk in yet. I'll comment
later on them if I am so moved.
Until then,
L8R,
Brian
|'''''''\
|----(
|,,,,/ (HOW'S THAT!!!)
In CD player--TFE
disclaimer:
Of course, nothing I said above need be taken seriously if it is going to
cause anyone anger or discomfort or an urge to flame me. consider it another
AOL bug that reads my mind and conveys my innermost thoughts about the jam
and sends those thoughts in the form of e-mail to the jam without my
intervention. I have GOT to get rid of this pesky AOL!!
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Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 01:08:11 -0400
From: Purplerx7@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Long time away....need help catching up.
Message-ID: <960918010810_287426857@emout05.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 96-09-17 09:02:37 EDT, you write:
<< .where can I get my hands on the RUSH tribute
CD?? My local CD stores keep saying " We have the NEW Rush
album".....no shit, so do I!!! They are clueless.........and their little
computer
doesn't show any album so I'm calling on you, the people with the
power!! >>
I got mine at the local Best Buy. Under Pop/Rock and at the end of the
section with all of the other various artists listings. While you're there,
look for Shadow Gallary. If you love Rush/DT like I do, you will probably
need to change your pants after listening to these guys. (They're also on
the tribute album) BTW - It would probably help you find the album if you
tole the stores that it was called "Working Man - A Rush Tribute" I got it
and it rocks.
Ryan
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Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 01:09:07 -0500 (CDT)
From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1845
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.960918010622.15252D-100000@enteract.com>
Two things: How far is Minneapolis MN from Chicago? I'm considering
going to both G3 shows. :)
Second, I know we have some trained vocalists on this list. If ANY of you
who feel you know how to sing would be willing to impart some practice
ideas on me, a feeble Ray Alder Wannabe, I'd be happy to send you guitar
lessons. I want to learn what to practice when I sing... so I can be more
accurate.
Buy Mike Keneally albums
Hasta!
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Christopher Ptacek at Enteract, L.L.C.
Technical Support Engineer
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T h o u g l e e k i n g o n i o n e y e d d e a t h t o k e n
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Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 00:29:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Waiting period is OVER :)
Message-ID: <199609180729.AA11066@crl8.crl.com>
For those of us who were holding off on buying T4E as a gentle protest
(over Rush's attitude toward Working Man), the delay period is expired
and we can now get it tomorrow -- yea, all 4 of us. :)
Mike Bahr, hope everything comes out okay.... You're too cool a
Jammer to lose.... :)
-- Paul W. Cashman, vanyel@crl.com Xxxx Dream Theater KoRn Bonedance --- www.crl.com/~vanyel ------ Metallica Hawkwind Enya Superior Mutha's Day Out Sisters of Mercy Dead Can Dance Blue Oyster Cult "You can find all you need in your mind / If you take the time.." -DT------------------------------
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 12:08:51 +0200 From: akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <v03007801ae6574574766@[128.178.99.94]>
>against a guy who isn't even here. Syrinx's post is a prime example. Mindcime >is not a subscriber, so his post agaginst promised land have only infuriated >a QR fan who likes PL. Guys, we are all on the same side. We all love DT, and >we hate anti-DT remarks. But really, is this getting us anywhere? I've seen
We're enough a bunch of ass-holes here to want to include others who arent' even subscribers, no? ;-^) If they're so keen on throwing cheap shit, they'd better subscribe. We shouldn't even bother if they don't have the balls.
>means. Throwing a metal song like the mirror at them won't work. Try the >lighter side of DT first and ease her into it. Hope this helps you better.
You can also try the match side of DT, or even use lube to ease it into her ;-)
Did anyone here check out the latest Killing Joke "Pandemonium"? Cool stuff
>James is an awesome frontman. Now, when people complain about >him seeming arrogant or offstandish, you should realize that >is part of the image, the presence he portrays (god-like :^)>
Hetfield?
........................................................................ D A V E K I N G vox & bass MT-20
"Holding on is easier than letting go" (fw) "I was told there'll be no one to call on when I feel alone and afraid" (dt) "Life's a bitch?; so fuck it!!" (dk)
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Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:13:41 +2000 From: <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool" To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: michael wilton, "fire garden", robert fripp Message-ID: <199609181117.OAA09624@pepe.online.ee>
> If I remember correctly, Michael co-wrote the following songs on >Empire: "The Thin Line," "Empire," "Resistance," "Hand on Heart" and >"One and Only." That's five out of eleven songs. Maybe I need to >look up the words "literally" and "nothing," since I don't understand >how you could use them to describe Michael's songwriting on Empire.
i admit my ignorance. i haven't looked at the lyric sheet for ages now and i had kinda got the impression that he wrote nothing.
but the songs you mentioned except fot "the thin line" and "empire" perhaps are rather lame to my taste. i prefer "revolution calling" and "promised land" anytime. hehe, speaking of the latter, it never occurred to me to look up its length and i was extremely surprised when i found out it was over 8 minutes. it definitely doesn't sound like it.
gosh, "promised land" cd is lost somewhere...
any europeans noticed vai's "fire garden" in europe already?
and one more thing i want to know. maybe some king crimson diehards will tell me, how much of "in the court of the crimson king" was written by robert fripp. in my opinion he only co-wrote two of them, so that he must have taken the lead *after* that album. there's too little information...
email me, please.
raitz
How could I forget such a revelation to love without fear and learn without question how could I regret the meant occasions I must begin this day again
Cynic, "How Could I"
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Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 09:07:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: don't care about lyrics..... Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.960918085214.28399D-100000@qbert.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Hey Ben, about not caring too much about lyrics.....I've been saying that for years....well, about a year and a half on this list, anyway.....there's too much great *music*/noise out there that folks might miss out on by getting bogged down in the words.....
ummm, Dale (i think), that was Kevin Nealon on Conan the other night
About Lemur Voice, I saw a Tower Records ad about new releases that had Insights listed on it.....methinks I'm gonna swing by South U. sometime this week.....
About Fire Garden:: y'know, Devin Townsend sounds 'natural' in this setting.....some real cool stuff, there's a few seconds in the opening track where I could swear Vai is flossing with his guitar strings, but it's all part of an intense album opener that gets the album off to a good start........ partha
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Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 08:32:24 -0500 (CDT) From: John Mastin <johnny@psa.pencom.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: GTR and net-admins Message-ID: <199609181332.IAA18119@psa.pencom.com>
Hey, I figured that I'd come out of lurker mode for a bit... (sorry, I haven't been able to keep up with the Jams lately.)
Someone mentioned GTR. They were a great band. From what I remember of the lineup, they had Howe and Hackett on guitars, Jonathan Mover on drums, Max Bacon on vox and I forget who on bass... CD is at home. :(
Onto the network admin bad guy thing...
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Now, if the net-admin is also the sys-admin, I might be able to understand. For the most part, mail gets put into a spool directory. That is where your mail lives. There are several different ways to retrieve mail. Some leave the mail in the spool directory (or on the "server") and others download it locally (be it to a PC or your home directory on a client-server network) For home use, most ISP want you to download your mail (using POP or IMAP protocol) For work, it is more traditional to keep the mail on the server. Well, all of those YJ's that stack up (and rather quickly with all of them coming out like they do). All of this takes up disk space on the spool directory. That disk space is shared by everyone who is in that directory (and possibly other directories, depending on how it is setup). Your "net-admin" might be concerned with disk space. If the disk for the spool directory fills up, no one gets any more mail. And remember, each YJ is not a small message in itself!
So, save your "net-admin" some headache. If you get mail and keep it on a server, please save the message as a file in your home directory. Or ask to see if they have POP or IMAP capability (which would download it to your home directory or PC/Mac/whatever) This will reduce the disk space you take up on the spool directory and get them off of your back. :)
Also too, there are some issues that have not been totally ironed out when it comes to email. Your peticular company may have embraced some rules governing it. Naturally, every business wants business related email only. (If you ever read an Employee Handbook, it will probably say so.) But how far do they go to have it enforced? Probably not very far because that rule for email is usually the same when it comes to personal phone calls on company time. Realize that it may not be enforced but chances are, it is in there and if they really want to be anal-retentive, they COULD do so.
Many companies do reserve the right to tell you that you would have to unsub from the YJ should they deem it necessary. After all, you are on company time, using company equipment. So, if you want to lose, go ahead and press the issue that they have no right telling you how you can use email at work...
Then there is the ever present 'big brother' thing. Do companies have the right to read your email? One side says no. It is private. If someone was to come into your house and start opening up your letters, they could go to jail. Then there is the yes. It's the company time- company equipment thing again. But I do believe that they have to notify you in advance that such email correspondance is privy to them and not private. If they don't, you might have a case. (But most of them put it in either the Employee Handbook or you sign something when you come on board.)
Am I causing general panic? I hope not. My intention is so that you are better informed about some of the practices out there. No real concrete rules have been really hashed out as of this time. If anyone reding this is planning on taking law as a profession, plan to take Computer Law. I guarantee that it will be one of the most lucrative law practices out there in the near future.
You friendly neighborhood geek on the YJ,
Johnny Motown
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Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 15:26:18 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: too many jams, not enough bread Message-ID: <3240149A.63DE@mailstorm.dot.gov>
Put simply: There's already more than enough jams in a day to keep up with. Stop turning music into a contest (QR vs. DT vs. yo mama :)...
> From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
> I'll fire a couple of names at you to listen to -- Joe Pass...
YES! I saw him at do a college gig about 10 years ago. The guy absolutely blew me the !@#$% away. Anyone would be happy to have that much left in them at that age!!!
To that already excellent list I would add Lee Ritenour, Larry Coryell and Earl Klugh to name a few, each with varied styles.
> From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop) > Subject: Old Yes Stuff
> Certainly the most complex album musically, the lyrics tend to go > somewhat over the top.
That's what is great in just about any YES song. Their lyrics have an effect similar to Escher in the visual medium.
Don't give up so easily on the new stuff, Neil. There's some sounds in there that'll still move (Lift Me Up and Our Song immediately come to mind).
Regards,
Jon
*------------*------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*------------------------*--------------*
"Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue."
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