YTSEJAM Digest 2681
Today's Topics:
1) Prog band comments, Megadeth revival, my favorite radio station, John's Jumbles
by caber1@concentric.net
2) World Party
by "Thomas Warnick" <twarnick@nsc.utah.edu>
3) Re: dman, spice girls
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org>
4) Space Dye Vest .ra file
by Big Swifty <swifty@auburn.net>
5) Minidisc/Microphone reccomendations?
by "Douglas Slauson" <sykes@inwave.com>
6) stuff
by Misha Horowitz <mhorowit@ziplink.net>
7) Digital Man Impersonator leave!!
by "Daus Studenberg" <daus@metrolink.net>
8) The Aflicagdjhfkeifdmdnchdjsk SCALE?!
by sinkdrain@juno.com (Rycher .oOo.)
9) The Wizard of Floyd!
by Ed Smith <ecs88@voicenet.com>
10) Sammy Hagar
by "Jeremy P. Kube" <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
11) cancel subscription
by Elizondo <rodeliz@sauce.cmact.com>
12) Re: Showmen and Showing off
by Davidjon Sabetai <DAVIDJON@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2680
by GnRBrks@aol.com
14) A Solution!
by eckie@asu.edu
15) Take Hold Of The Flame...
by jon <freedom1@tpgi.com.au>
16) Great DT Moments...
by "DJW" <DJW_at_NEON@smtpgate.walker.com>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2676
by Daniel Vasconcelos Gomes <danielvg@sel.eesc.sc.usp.br>
18) MEGADETH,RATT and Jerusalem Slim
by Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
19) John Petrucci
by Santiago Leon <leons@ramt.com>
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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 19:21:19 -0700
From: caber1@concentric.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Prog band comments, Megadeth revival, my favorite radio station, John's Jumbles
Message-ID: <33B8699F.2C26@concentric.net>
Hey everyone(well just the people on this list anyway ;)
Ok I went out of my house last night and didn't come home till all of
little FL, NJ was in flames(not the band). While I was out I listened to
some "nad rok" -ing bands(thanks Mape). And I have some comments...
I think Angra's singer sounds close to Zak Stevens(Savatage). I thought
all the Angra's band members are from Brazil. How the hell does this guy
not have *any* accent? Anyway I think the band just average(j/k).
I also, think(I can heard the rocks grinding now) that Crimson Glory's
singer sounds like Geoff Tate(Queensr˙che). Again I like it.
What's up with Skyclad they sound like an irish folk gone eletric. But
it was awesome because I had just been to a little family gathering and
being 100% Irish, you can guess what I was listening to. I think I'll
never get Danny Boy out of my head(and to answer any questions, NO that
has no, I mean, NOOOOOO sexual meaning in it whatsoever).
I also got this morning the new Megadeth. Now if you have keeping track
I haven't been impressed with my last couple of Megadeth CDs. I first
got Youthaisa(sp?) and while I didn't completey hate it, I don't exactly
play it to often either. I got Peace Sells... but I very much disliked
it(I'm trying not to use the HATE ;). But I really am impressed with
Cryptic Writings. Very song is good. I think Dave's voice fits all of
the songs, too. I can hear the bass, oh my god, that's original, wait
that means their progressive. ;) There is even a little jazzy tune "Have
Cool, Will Travel" I think this is one of the best songs on the CD!
Ok, I'm sure everyone wants to listen to DT on the radio well MOVE TO
NJ. No joke! Hey there's no sales tax, and there's a radio station here
called WSOU 89.5 that is awesome. The DJ starts to play Met Part 1(I've
actually heard them play this once before last summer). Then it ends and
he says he wants to play another DT song so UAGM intro starts, this is
also about when my town had a little roit ;-D
On one last thing if you're responding to someone's post and you start
to go off on the original writer, guess what, you should write to them.
It doesn't happen here as much as it used to. But I started to see a
couple of posts like this on the 'jam lately and I thought we should try
not to start flames. This includes posting under someone else's name,
complaining about Vince :) , or any other "concocked jumble" of this
nature.
"Oh it should be fine...as long as we don't lick it." -Not me ;)
John McCabe
caber1@concentric.net
P.S. how many times did I use a smile thingie?
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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 18:16:46 -0700
From: "Thomas Warnick" <twarnick@nsc.utah.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: World Party
Message-ID: <199707010014.SAA25864@beehive.nsc.utah.edu>
Just wanted to make mention that I found the latest and long awaited
"World Party" album "Enclave" to be a very pleasant treat. I know...
it 'taint progressive rock, but it is chock full of great songwriting
and very tasty musicianship, and even a guitar solo or two.
Now... onto DT content...
I was watching, once again, "I & W, Live in Tokyo." Everytime I
spin the vid, I just get mesmerized, with chills running up and down
my spine during the breakdown/guitar solo of "To live forever." It's
nothing fancy, nothing loud, nothing even that flashy, just a simple
exploration of a chord, but it sure is one of my all time favorite DT
bits.
Good Day.
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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 21:12:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: dman, spice girls
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970630211145.19190B-100000@infinite.wezl.org>
133 Spice girls on second attempt...You go!!!! Let's see who can beat that
one!
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^ According to the circle of fifths, and the order of sharps and flats: ^
^ If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) ^
^ (i.e. A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major ^
^ would have 4 sharps. ^
^ ^
^ "Just Lighten up and listen to the Music" -Kevin Moore (inside joke) ^
^ ^
^ Eric Moegling: Manager for "Lifting Shadows Off A Ring" ^
^ The Dream Theater Web-Ring ^
^ emoeglin@wezl.org ^
^ ^
^ HOMEPAGE - http://www.wezl.org/NuGgeTMaN or http://opeckie.base.org ^
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On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, woot wrote:
> for anyone that's still confused, no, D-man is not gay.
>
> Slapped 133 spice girls on my second attempt! beat that!
>
> woot
>
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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 20:42:02 -0500
From: Big Swifty <swifty@auburn.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Space Dye Vest .ra file
Message-ID: <33B8606A.6597@auburn.net>
Hello! I've just converted the version of Space Dye Vest that I recorded
for the tribute album on my page in .ra format. It's at
http://www.auburn.net/~swifty/dt.html
That's all,
Mark Peters
swifty@auburn.net
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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 21:41:56 -0500
From: "Douglas Slauson" <sykes@inwave.com>
To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Minidisc/Microphone reccomendations?
Message-ID: <199707010240.VAA18990@earth.inwave.com>
I just got a Sony MZ-R30 portable minidisc recorder, and I was wondering if
there were any jammers out there that have had any experience making
audience recordings with the minidisc format. I'm looking for any tips and
also any specific reccomendations for what microphones to use.
Please respond privately, thanks in advance
DTC:I think Just Let Me Breathe is a real mover and shaker, I hope they use
it as a single for the forthcoming album. Burning My Soul could also work
in an edited format. (blasphemy, I know) A big thank you to Tim L. for
getting me a Fix tape! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| sykes@inwave.com |
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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 23:08:14 -0400
From: Misha Horowitz <mhorowit@ziplink.net>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: stuff
Message-ID: <01BC85AA.974D6EA0@bos-ip-3-77.ziplink.net>
I don't want to take up an entire jam with an explanation as to how =
stupid this whole thing is, because there is no way it could be nearly =
as good as Bafu's (I'm still laughing). Long arguments that have shown =
up in the past here have been annoying, but at least they were something =
that someone believed in. However, I would've thought that the jam =
would be the last place I would see this stupid, immature *SHIT* show =
up. Grow up and cut it out, you unimaginative, homophobic, and =
unsuccessful asshole. Doing this *ONCE* could possibly be explained by =
a frontal lobotomy, but then posting again....
Anyway, since this post obviously isn't going to accomplish anything, =
I'll just shut up now. Sorry.
--Misha
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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 23:24:01 -0700
From: "Daus Studenberg" <daus@metrolink.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Digital Man Impersonator leave!!
Message-ID: <19970701031056655.AAA247@daus.metrolink.net>
If the DigitalMan is gay, I don't care. But I suspect someone is
impersonating him with this really childish reply. Whoever it is needs to
get wiped off of this list NOW!
> No no, I recant. I -am- gay. It was childish of me to take back
something
> which obviously took a lot of courage. So, in short, I am gay.
>
> Gayer than a hootananny.
>
> -d
>
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Webmaster
> cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student
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> d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a
woman
> http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a homo man" - Peart
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>
Daus Studenberg
daus@metrolink.net
"I am just a stranger in the strangest land." - Mark King
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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 23:22:47 EDT
From: sinkdrain@juno.com (Rycher .oOo.)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The Aflicagdjhfkeifdmdnchdjsk SCALE?!
Message-ID: <19970630.232544.7223.1.sinkdraiN@juno.com>
>>I'm not familiar with the Tetrotonic 13 b9 scale or minor pentamelody.
>>Is that minor pentamelody of which you speak a melody formed from a
minor
>>pentatonic scale or something totally different?
I probably should have used scales from this universe in my
example. The construction of these are extremely complex but rather
interesting. A guy named Tib Van Dyke came up with a system to construct
every possible scale. It is rather complex and I will explain it later
this week when my brain is turned on. Isn't it amazing how perfect music
is. Everything falls into simple neat organized mathmatical systems.
It's like god is looking down on musicians and laughing because musicians
think they are hot shit for coming up with it and using it.
Its cool to know the theory behind what sounds cool. It opens
creative doors. But the ultimate musician just plays what fuck they feel
like!
I'm sorry, i forget the release date for shadow Gallery...any
help?
~sinkdraiN
buy Hot by Squirrel Nut Zippers!!!!!!!!!!!! their name
perfectly describes the music.
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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 23:39:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ed Smith <ecs88@voicenet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The Wizard of Floyd!
Message-ID: <199707010339.XAA03857@mail3.voicenet.com>
The drain, Sinkdrain that is, and I have just watched the Wizard of Oz while
listening to the Dark side of the moon. I did not think it would match up,
but it did. I started the cd about 3 sconds after the third MGM lion's roar.
It is pretty bizarre. I quess this means the aliens will reveal themsleves
to us soon.
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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 23:47:27 -0400
From: "Jeremy P. Kube" <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Sammy Hagar
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970630234727.007af100@nh.ultranet.com>
Hey,
I just wanted to voice my opinion of Sammy Hagar:
1. He's an honest joe just trying to make a buck in the business of music.
Van Halen is dishonest but they rock.
2. Sammy didn't have the stage presence of DLR but he had years on him
(literally) with his music capability.
3. Van Halen (specifically Eddie and Alex) are a couple of liars. I don't
belive a word out of their mouths.
4. Sammy is better on his own.
5. "Little White Lie" is a fantasic song, that sums it all up. It is much
heavier than his usual solo stuff but, it's what he has been used to for
the last 15 or so years of his life. Van Halen has had a profound affect
on his music writing and more, his life.
If you want to argue or agree with this, do it by private e mail...Enough
already! : )
That's about it,
J
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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 22:48:50 -0500
From: Elizondo <rodeliz@sauce.cmact.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: cancel subscription
Message-ID: <01BC85AE.7A687100@windows9>
Ytsejam:
We don't want to receive your email anymore. Thanks
Rodeliz@sauce.cmact.com
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 04:51:40 +0000
From: Davidjon Sabetai <DAVIDJON@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Showmen and Showing off
Message-ID: <19970701045139.AAA27331@LOCALNAME>
>A lengthy re-post, yes.
Is this and the following long enough re-posts?
>Firstly, I cheer loudest at all moments of a Steve Vai performance.
Secondly, >since you haven't specified an audience, I'm going to assume that
your post >refers to me.
When I referred to an audience, I meant a general one. I have seen my share
of concerts and heard my share of bootlegs. The faster the solo, the louder
the audience gets. This post was also a self-indulgent rant, too. I have
many friends into simple music. When I play the music I listen to, to them,
I hear those comments about arrogance that I accused you of. I have to vent
every now and then. I applaud you for being able to maintain a steady volume
over a whole concert. Are you taking vocal lessons from JL?
>I MEANT that you can't tell what Petrucci is thinking during his clinics,
but >it's clear that any performer puts together a performance based on what
they >think the audience will want to hear.
I guess I am guilty of "perusing" or scanning the Jam. :)
>"But I'm not finished, because now I'm gonna play it...FASTERRRR!!!"
Showmen >show-off.
When you said this, I took it as a negative statement. Also, I thought you
inferred that showing off was arrogant.
No guitarist should have to deal with this "arrogant" stereotype unless he
says in a Swedish accent, "I am ze greatest geetarist in ze vorld." :)
>Hey Isaac, have a Ron Thal transcription on me. :)
Send it.
Isaac
Davidjon@worldnet.att.net
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 01:29:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: GnRBrks@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2680
Message-ID: <970701012949_1655926656@emout13.mail.aol.com>
I just got back from the Rudess Morgenstein Project's mini concert and
clinic at the Guitar Center in Dallas!! Let me tell you I was litterally
blown away!!!! These two guys have great chemistry together and can really
jam!!!!
They started out with a little history of the "band" duo and then proceeded
with the first tune!! About half way through it, the power went out!! They
were playing soooo hard and loud that the power supply clicked off!! The song
they were playing was pretty complicated and down right awesome! So then when
the power comes back on Jordan had to reload all the sounds to the keyboard
while Rod gave us all a little background and funny stories. Then they start
to play the same song over again and ,guess what,the power goes off again.
Rod decides to do a little demonsration of how to keep an inner pulse going
on when playing in odd times.He proceeds to start off playing pretty straight
forward jams and then gradually goes all out into a full blown solo that goes
all over the place.The amazing thing is that the whole time he is counting
out loud,1,2,3,4!!!!!!!!! He never lost it!! Then they finished out the night
without anymore power outages.
Anyone who is a DT fan will want to get their new cd that comes out this
September. All the stuff is right down our alley. Elements of rock,heavy
metal,funk,jazz,fusion,pretty much everything!!!!
I am worn out from listening!!!!
Glen <GnRBrks@aol.com>
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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 22:39:04 -0700 (MST)
From: eckie@asu.edu
To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: A Solution!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970630222803.9971A-100000@general2.asu.edu>
There will be no more posts about anything regarding music.
No threads about how great one guitarist is compared to another,
no threads about people who don't want to rate 'em
no threads from the initial posters who flame the complainers
no threads from the initial flamers (uh...you know what I mean) to
counterflame....
Instead of labeling music as 'good' or 'bad', we shall use instead the
terms, 'Sucky' and 'Cool'. Well shall not rate music but instead, the
posters who support those styles.
The guidelines are as follows:
Anybody into ska and punk: Mainstream close minded idiots.
Any fans of Metallica and Megadeth, and metal in general: Barbarious
neanderthal brutes with dysfunctional hearing and lack of taste.
Fans of Dream Theater: The Supreme Race.
Fans of progressive music: Music nerds.
There will be no more political correctness. Your feelings will be
hurt. You will be offended. Bafu Vai will not make any more sense than
he does now. THis is not a warning, but the facts of life.
Every body will post using D-man's .sig file, and everybody will select a
gender and sexuality to post in. I find it easiest to post as a
heterosexual male, personally.
That is all.
Rock hard,
Live hard,
Be hard!
~Eckie can be found twiddling his thumbs behind Dan Rather on the evening
news at eckie@asu.edu
P.S. Foodspoon
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 17:32:54 +-1000
From: jon <freedom1@tpgi.com.au>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Take Hold Of The Flame...
Message-ID: <01BC8644.D3BB5920@jonny.tpgi.com.au>
The year is unknown,..
the location is a universial spacezone,.
the streets are a rock opera,.
the key is Freedom,.
and the soul is yours ....,
Bats heart is pounding,.where to dream?..
where to believe......the unknown knows,.the void within,..
this is the time that we must embrace,.
the Bat swoops in,.the silence is no more,.
no more fear,.just the will to fight..
*fight and you might die,.run and you'll live,...
but on your death bed,.many years from now,.
Im betting you will wished to have traded every day,.
from now untill then to fight for this one chance at Freedom...
...Fight with me for your FREEDOM..*
...................................................
Greetings all from the Batcave.( my wild wild drum shed...land of most =
excellent tunes)
Rock me with the tunes of:.
Dream Theatre.(caught in a web spins me out,.and pull me under,..space =
die vest,.another day..ect ect)
Savatage.,.Saviour Machine,.Warrior Soul, Anthrax,.Shadow =
Gallery,.Tesla,.Queensryche,.(deserve to rule the world!!),.......and =
this spaced out zyper Bat will be ElectriK!!,.!!!
Thanx,..Peace,.Cheers,.Burn the night away,.Take hold of the Flame,..
(and as the legend Sir William Wallace..aka Braveheart"s dying words =
were),.FREEDOM!!!!
*Bat Heart Cola*
WelKome To Operation:BatCime......
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Date: Tue, 01 Jul 97 08:28:32 PDT
From: "DJW" <DJW_at_NEON@smtpgate.walker.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Great DT Moments...
Message-ID: <9706018677.AA867743646@smtpgate.walker.com>
Hi,
Just to add to the possible thread that Jon Parmet mentioned - there
are so many great DT bits (like everything they've ever done!) but how
about "I'm lying here in bed..." etc in Voices or "Pours his soul into
the water..." from Lifting Shadows or maybe the "Goodbye" from ACOS.
Shit the bed! DT are great though aren't they.
Dave (a UK Jammer).
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:22:10 -0300 (EST)
From: Daniel Vasconcelos Gomes <danielvg@sel.eesc.sc.usp.br>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2676
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970701101920.1167A-100000@POCAHONTAS>
> > WHERE IN THE WORLD IS MARILLION?
>
> Right now, they're on tour in Europe. They'll be back in Holland
> in September for some more concerts (and hopefully for a fanclub
> convention). I think the US tour will probably be in August.
They must be real fast, because Friday they were here in
Brazil....
[]s, Roger...
Hey Roger, I went to campinas to watch this show too.:)
Great one!!!And I already told to people at #freaks that
Marillion has played here friday.:)
Daniel V.Gomes
(Aragorn)
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/8551
ps I got Visions from Stratovarius. It rocks!!!!!
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 23:02:04 +0900
From: Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: MEGADETH,RATT and Jerusalem Slim
Message-ID: <199707011402.XAA28715@ma1.seikyou.or.jp>
Well,got to tell ya about BONUS TRACK on "CRYPTIC WRITING" by MEGADETH.
The Jpn-ver. includes one bonus track titled "One Thing".
And bought new Ratt today. Their new release is self-compilation album --
some newly recorded tracks and old tracks. It's nice for me to remember
good ol' days of my life by listening this disc. There's no cheesy feeling
that metal bands of 80s had, but this album really bring me back to 80s.
The FEELING. The AIR. Whatever you wanna call.
Here's track list for your help:
COLLAGE by RATT
1.Steel River
2.Dr. Rock
3.Diamond Time Again
4.RATT Madness
5.Hold Tight
6.I Want It All
7.Mothers Blues
8.Top Secret (Original Version)
9.Take It Anyway
10.Lovin' You ... Fonic Mix LP version!
11.She's Got Everything (Bonus Track)
And Michael Monroe and Jerusalem Slim:
Yeah,yeah! Michael hates this album for heavy metalish guitar sound and
metalic arrangement. Michael Wagner (known as his work with Dokken,Skid
Row,Testament, Accept etc....) did produce this sound. And I like this
rotator for Steven's Metallic Guitar Work.
Thank You.
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-Keiji Nishihara
$B!!(BDoshisha Uni. Electric/Electronic Material Lab. Semiconductor ARRAY
KYOTO JAPAN
Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp
tq0139@mail4.doshisha.ac.jp
$B!!(Bhttp://ha1.seikyou.ne.jp/home/Keiji.Nishihara/index.html
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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:27:28 -0500
From: Santiago Leon <leons@ramt.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: John Petrucci
Message-ID: <33B7DE6F.38B545E9@ramt.com>
agree 100%
santi...
> I just wanted to say that after listening to all my DT stuff including some
> DT boots, I have concluded that JP has to be regarded as one of if not the
> very BEST progressive rock guitarist on the planet. How much better could a
> guitarist be. I read some posts about Satriani and Vai being to best, but
> these guys don't play with the caliber musicians that Petrucci plays with.
> IMOH the other guitarists are the whole band, and when JP does his solos
> there is greater versatility to them. Not to mention that JP writes awesome
> lyrics. Anyone agree that JP deserves more superior recognition?
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