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Just to supplement all the below information, I have included a recent
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very carefully if you are a new user of the mailing list.
Thanks!
Skadz <skadz@dreamt.org>
Ytsejam Moderator
Subject: IMPORTANT YTSEJAM INFORMATION
Hi All ...
Time from another ytsejam post from that Skadz character. For
those of you who don't know me, I run this list ( i won't say
moderate, well, at least not yet ;) I've been doing it for all too
long now (over 2 1/2 years now) and try my best to keep a handle on
things, but sometimes fail miserably due to other time commitments
(like that job thing ;) If you ever have any
questions/comments/requests, please mail me at skadz@dreamt.org.
Boring Stuff
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We currently have 1256 subscribers, 69 of which are in ack mode, the
rest in digest mode.
Archives of ALL back issues of the ytsejam (starting somewhere around
200) are ALWAYS available at:
ftp://ftp.dreamt.org/pub/ytsejam/
Me and an official website webmaster to be named later are working on
a way to get these mailable via a web form, hopefully it will be up
RSN. I will also hopefully (some day ;) making some sort of search
engine, soyou can search through past jams. I am also probably going
to try and pull all the old ones off AX.COM one day and make the
archive even more complete. These eon't be available too quickly, but
definately things I have on my mind to do.
Rules/Regulations/Etc
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This is always a touchy subject for me and a lot of jammers
(especially alot of the jammers who have been around for a long time),
but this is how I think of things.
The number one rule of the ytsejam is this:
THINK BEFORE YOU POST
I am 100% completely sick of seeing off the cuff wise ass remarks on
the jam. And I don't want to see them anymore. Take them to private
email. This is NOT the place. I have already been mailing people
about their posting habits and plan on continuing to do it until I see
alot of this junk stopping.
The rule of the ytsejam used to be 3 strikes and you are out. I don't
believe in this. If I warn you about something and you keep it up, I
will throw you off this list without thinking twice. I don't care who
you are or what, if you get warned about your posting behavior, stop,
don't try and slide something past of whatever, rememver Big Brother
is ALWAYS watching (asking the members of the #ytsejam IRC channel ;)
Things that will get you warned and subsequently thrown off INCLUDE
(but are not limited to):
1. Starting or Continuing "Threads From Hell", these include things
like:
a. Kevin vs. Derek
b. James Sucks
c. How to spell things (more on this later)
d. God / Religion
e. People's Sexuality
f. NIN, Blind Melon, etc (long stories ;)
g. Metallica Sold Out
h. Dream Theater Sold Out
i. etc etc etc
2. Publically flaming someone on the jam
3. Posting MIME/HTML to the jam
4. Sending Forwarded Messages/Jokes to the jam (this is NOT the place)
5. Reposting large amounts of previous emails in replies
6. Large signature files at the ends of messages
7. Basically doing anything which is completely inappropriate for this
list
A couple of notes, first, threads from hell. The current (and
seemingly finally finished keyboardist debate) spelling war on the
jam ends NOW. Continuing it after this message hits a digest gets you
the one warning you get. Takes flames to private email, this is not
the place. An addendum to this is if you post a flame which goes way
beyond the limits of a regular flame (aka becomes a personal attack on
someone) will get you IMMEDIATELY removed from the list. MIME/HTML
posts are NOT allowed on this mailing list. Change your damn sending
type to regular text, it is not that hard. Please make sure to trim
down replies to the jam as much as possible (it just wastes space) If
someone is interested in your reply, they probably read the original
email as well. Also, please try to keep signatures as small as
possible. No ASCII art, 10 lines ot lyrics, etc.
Before asking any questions on the jam, please make sure to read the
Dream Theater FAQ (which can always be found at
http://www.dreamtheater.net/
I am hoping (one day) to get a Ytsejam FAQ going, any volunteers? No,
Gabbo, you are NOT allowed to volunteer ;) (kidding!!!)
I am NOT in anyway trying to be an asshole here, just trying to make
this mailing list used for the purpose it was intended for, which is
to talk about DT and related (at least somewhat related) topics. As I
have said, my main rule is think before you post. If you are not sure
if you should post a reply, don't! send it in private email.
Well, I think that is all I am going to say for now. Thanks for
listening.
Skadz
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The new Dream Theater album "Falling Into Infinity" has been released, and the band is currently on tour in the United States. Check the FAQ (see below) for tour dates.
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