YTSEJAM Digest 4973
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Searching for Planet X
by Calvin6S@aol.com
2) Re: MiniDisc
by "Josh Calkin" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu>
3) Re: Searching for Planet X
by ToxicSheep@aol.com
4) What was that link to the MP3 off MullMuzzler?
by ShadowBor@aol.com
5) Coal Chamber
by Kurt Hampton <eernewe1@gnofn.org>
6) New Megadeth video
by Kurt Hampton <eernewe1@gnofn.org>
7) Metal Edge quote. (this is funny)
by Kurt Hampton <eernewe1@gnofn.org>
8) re:yo
by Michael Zachariadis <mzahar@cc.uoa.gr>
9) Re: Internet Radio
by Josh Watkins <jwatkins@megsinet.net>
10) cdnow/planet x
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
11) DT Speak to me.mp3
by Serkan AKCAN <sakcan@atacom.com.tr>
12) two latest cdnow coupons
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
13) cuteftp
by Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
14)
by ivexx2001@usa.net
15) Mike Portnoy Drum Clinic Tour - Europe '99
by Rhys.Jenkins@wdr.com
16) New Royal Hunt Singer
by Graham Boyle <ytsejam@ozemail.com.au>
17) The grove still groves... And more.
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
18) Denon
by "Giannotti, Nick" <GiannottiN@hanscom.af.mil>
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 01:26:28 EDT
From: Calvin6S@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Searching for Planet X
Message-ID: <f30d5263.24becb04@aol.com>
> Searching for Planet X
Did you check under SHERINIAN instead of Planet X?
The first album is Derek Sherinian - Planet X, not Planet X - s/t
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 01:37:16 -0400
From: "Josh Calkin" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: MiniDisc
Message-ID: <001d01bece84$1a5474a0$ce51c6d1@guest3382>
I think the absence of low frequencies would be enough to turn me off to
minidiscs. Granted, the human ear can't HEAR stuff that low, but on a
good system, you can FEEL it....
All part of a good musical experience, IMO.
NP: George Carlin - Some People are Stupid
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E-Mail: darkharmony13@hotmail.com j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu
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IRC: Mortua
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 01:42:53 EDT
From: ToxicSheep@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Searching for Planet X
Message-ID: <cffd6580.24becedd@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/15/99 1:18:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ytsejam@ax.com
writes:
<<
Has anyone been successful in finding Planet X? I've been to my local Best
Buy and Circuit City but no luck. When I asked the clerks about it they
looked at me like I had monkeys flying out of my ass. >>
I would just get it online or pre-order it in a record store, if I
were you...
I don't know what the hell is going on with that CD...there is barely
anything mentioned of it on magnacarta.net, its not in their catalog, and
only one place in my area had it in stock. Some places didn't even have any
record of it's existence.... and the jam didn't even mention too much about
either...
And you know what?
The CD kicks ass!!!! It ranks among one of the best Magna Carta releases,
in my opinion. It is VERY proggy and it is original stuff. I think most
people on this list would like it. My description of it would have to be:
Original Progressive Space Fusion....
Some stuff, like Sea of Antiquity and Day in the Sun is really DT-ish, BTW...
@ |> A (V)
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 01:56:45 EDT
From: ShadowBor@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: What was that link to the MP3 off MullMuzzler?
Message-ID: <4d05f9e1.24bed21d@aol.com>
As the subject says....Anyway I remember someone posting a link to
some radio site or something with a song called "His Voice" off Mullmuzzler
and was wondering if they could post it again as well as links to anything
else off this album.
Thanks
Rob
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 01:30:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: Kurt Hampton <eernewe1@gnofn.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Coal Chamber
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.990715012819.28985A-100000@sparkie.gnofn.org>
Hell no. Coal chamber is FAAARRRRR from from progressive. I owned their CD
for a month (note that). Each songs has one verse and one chorus that is
repeated over and over and over. They are nothing but a meatl band. I saw
them live opening for Megadeth last year. Then when kids in the mall start
wearing their shirts religiously, its over.
Kurt
******~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~****** @----'--,--- ******~~~~~~~~~~~~~~******
"I remember Now"
"Rodney King, what the hell is that supposed to mean? He's that guy."
Airheads
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 01:31:29 -0500 (CDT)
From: Kurt Hampton <eernewe1@gnofn.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: New Megadeth video
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.990715013039.28985B-100000@sparkie.gnofn.org>
Tonight 7/15 is the premiere of Megadeth's Crush em vid on the rockshow on
VH1 if you don't know about the show, where have you been?
Kurt
******~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~****** @----'--,--- ******~~~~~~~~~~~~~~******
"I remember Now"
"Rodney King, what the hell is that supposed to mean? He's that guy."
Airheads
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 01:33:58 -0500 (CDT)
From: Kurt Hampton <eernewe1@gnofn.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Metal Edge quote. (this is funny)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.990715013135.28985C-100000@sparkie.gnofn.org>
Ok last post. A friend told me metal edge's question of the month was your
most memorable touring expierence. Either James or Mike's (can't remember)
He believes won quote of the week. It was something like this:
I remember it was on the Japan Awake tour, we were playing Pull Me Under,
and John Myung ACTUALLY MOVED.
I had a laugh.
Kurt
******~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~****** @----'--,--- ******~~~~~~~~~~~~~~******
"I remember Now"
"Rodney King, what the hell is that supposed to mean? He's that guy."
Airheads
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:55:16 +0300
From: Michael Zachariadis <mzahar@cc.uoa.gr>
To: Ytsejam List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: re:yo
Message-ID: <378D93E4.4747B512@cc.uoa.gr>
Hi jammers
Alex wrote:
> WSOU played a whole chunk of them tonight - first time I heard them on the
> radio - and it kicked ass. Any info would be appreciated, as usual!
What did you heard? old staff or the newer?
Paradise Lost at first where a kick ass Death Metal band, with great songs. It's of
the few bands that changed along the way that remained really heavy and really good.
The best albums (IMHO) were "Icon" and the one that followed "Draconian Times" were
they play a mix of Death, Heavy, Gothic and God knows what else. The bottom line is
that these two kick major ass. The bad thing in the story is that after a great
progression in metal, along the way (1996-7) they took the first EXIT out of the
metal highway and got into the electronic "Depece Mode-ish" avenue. I haven't heard
their latest albums so I can't tell you if they are good or not. But I think it's
really sad for the older fans this change. They changed completely, even more than
M#@%^&@!A did. If you like electronic music probably you'll like the last two-three
albums, if you're more into metal you'll better check their older staff.
The official site is http://www.paradiselost.co.uk which seem to be down. Search at
the Ultimate Band List (http://www.ubl.com) to find more info and sites about the
band.
Later
Mike
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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:56:39 -0500
From: Josh Watkins <jwatkins@megsinet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Internet Radio
Message-ID: <002801becdce$67c25a60$30d2d6d8@jwatkins>
> Hey guys. *Other* than Ytsejam Radio, could you tell me some other prog
> internet radio stations? I found one but forgot to bookmark it and it
looked
> decent :-( Oh well. Maybe you guys know of it. Thanks.
Well a good place to start is www.hardradio.com.
It's mostly metal, but they play everything from 80's metal to 90's
progressive metal. Check it out.
Josh
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 01:04:01 -0700
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: cdnow/planet x
Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA0F44DB@ms.kallback.com>
> To apply this lesson to CDNow, their prices are superior to any other
> online
> vendor (especially with the $x-off deals). CDNow has swallowed up its
> major
> competitor (Music Boulevard) and now a merger with the only other major
> mail-order cd vendor, the cycle is about to be complete. Will CDNow's
> prices
> go up? I have to believe they will. What can we, the buyer do?
Try 800.com Their cds are one or two bucks cheaper and right
now they are offering free priority shipping, so that's a couple more bucks.
> > Has anyone been successful in finding Planet X? I've been to my local
> Best
> > Buy and Circuit City but no luck. When I asked the clerks about it they
> > looked at me like I had monkeys flying out of my ass.
Try the S section. That's where I found it.
The cd is called Derek Sherinian Planet X.
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:33:48 +0300
From: Serkan AKCAN <sakcan@atacom.com.tr>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT Speak to me.mp3
Message-ID: <31519ABCDEA5D211A8AD0060B06A51220F2296@BACKUP_SERVER>
Hello again.
Yeap i know mp3 files is illegal :( But i haven't another way. I think so
the song "Speak to me" included in Falling into infinity released in Japan.
And i live in Turkey. I have to find this song. I watched on video of DT.
I'm a drummer and we want to play this song with my band.
I searched on internet, but couldn't found. Anyone can help me? Can you send
me this mp3 or can you say me where i can download?
ThanX for your interest
mail to: sakcan@atacom.com.tr
See ya !
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 01:36:12 -0700
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'Steve-burien prog guy'" <pachin1046@aol.com>,
Subject: two latest cdnow coupons
Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA0F44DF@ms.kallback.com>
$10 off $14.99 exp 8/1
http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/redirect/leaf=from=mad:3:ect:rgpt:10off
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 05:24:25 -0400
From: Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: cuteftp
Message-ID: <378DA8C9.166CD04B@bigfoot.com>
>You got some awesome music over there! Can you give me some instruction
on
>how I can download them? I guess I can't use my browser(IE 5.0). I also
>tried using the FTP program that comes with WIN95, but I'm kinda
clueless
>how it works.
The following info could be useful to lots of people, so i figured it'd
post to the jam. in my little lecture, wherever i put a command in caps,
it just means type in what I put in caps. don't actually type the
command in caps. that was just so you could see what i meant.
anyway:
I use netscape, where you can just type in "ftp://blahblah.blah" instead
of "html://blahblah.blah" in the address box. did you try that? I don't
know if it'll work in IE.
at any rate...EVERYONE should know the basics of FTP! it can come in
very handy sometimes, especially those times you feel like pirating
software, which is essentialy what is happening on adam's site, since he
put up a disclaimer that mtv owns the queensryche stuff and he might
have to take it down.
It's not hard, but if you're a sissy, you're still in luck, because you
can get CuteFTP, which I use myself. It works just like windows
explorer(remember when it used to be called program manager?), with your
computer's contents on the left and the ftp site on the right. and you
can click open folders and drag stuff either way, it's great. i'm using
it right now to get that unplugged ryche show. go to www.cuteftp.com for
a shareware version.
If you're feeling a little adventurous, here's some simple ftp commands
you can use to get what you need done. FTP uses UNIX, which works almost
the same as DOS, because DOS is just plagairized UNIX. Once you're
logged on to an FTP server, DIR lists a directory, CD blah goes to that
directory, and CD .. goes back up. make sure the space before the two
dots are there.
In most FTP sites, you'd start by going to the "pub" directory and then
decide from there. Adams' site is very straightforward. the directory
names are "dream theater", "queensryche" and so on. so you'd type DIR to
see that list, and then CD dreamtheater, for example, to get to the DT
files. once there, all you have to do is download them, which you do by
typing GET. you type "get 'filename'" including any extensions. if the
file is in uppercase, you gotta type it in uppercase, and you gotta put
the filename in quotes for the uppercase to be recognized. and that's
pretty much it.
The only thing i haven't explained is logging on, cuz i wanted to save
the hardest for last.
Eric, you said you were using the FTP program that came with W95. i have
98, but i'm assuming it's the same - a dos based program, right? I just
used it for the first time, just so i could type this message
accurately, so you better read it, jerky. :)
anyway, I got to that program by going to the start button, then 'run'
then "ftp". the dos ftp program came up. now, here's where you connect
to the site you want. well known sites have names, like ftp.funet.fi or
ftp.hornyasiankiddies.com or what-have-you. but you don't always need a
name, like in adam's case; he just provided the IP number. that's fine,
you can type that right in. you get to that site by typing either OPEN
or CONNECT or sometimes FTP, one of which ought to then prompt you for
the address. in our program, OPEN worked, it then asked TO, at which
point i entered adam's number.
i was prompted for a user name, at which point i typed in ANONYMOUS, as
is customary. i was prompted to use my email address as the password. i
did.
then I couldn't get on, because i was already on using my cuteftp
program. doh! so i went to funet(first site i thought of) and just
grabbed the first file i found. some readme file. I went through the
directories using DIR, CD .., and CD directoryname, until i found this
file, and then to download it, i did two things. first i typed HASH, so
that little marks would go across my screen indicating my progress.
without those, you have no idea if the thing's even working. Then i
typed GET filename, and since the filename was in caps, i did it like
this: [get "README"], ignore brackets, and then I hit enter.
and it worked.
so if you want to slick back your hair with fry grease and pump up your
eastern bloc techno, you can just use this handy guide to ftp the 'real'
way.
or just do the cuteftp thing, which is really easier and that's the only
way I do it these days. I forgot all this stuff, and actually the
re-remembering i had to do for this post really brought me back to those
mid-college years, where the little hash marks signified all the girls
that would not be having any sex with me. haw haw!
joshua
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:11:03 +0200 (CEST)
From: ivexx2001@usa.net
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Message-ID: <199907150911.LAA01056@intercom.2mtv.no>
Shane, and some other guy wrote:
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
I used to feel the same way, but now I'm kinda getting into the death
vocals.
Amorphis' "Elegy" helped me b/c it's about half & half. And I just picked
up
Opeth's "My Arms, Your Hearse" and I can't stop listening to it. There is
one
track with clean vocals but the rest is growled. To me, it seems like the
vocals
become just another instrument. They aren't distracting like clean vocals
b/c
you can't understand them! So there's no desire for me to sing along. I
can
focus on the music. Just my opinion, of course.
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
Recently, I ran into this band called: "In Flames" [Dr. Mosh's FTP] - Weird mix,
I'd have to say... That voice, and the rest playing melodic as hell.
-And IMO they really play well!!
At first, I didn't like the vocals, but now, I almost dig this growling...
(Of course, all death-bands has gone together and constructed this band
, just so that non-deathers would eventually get caught listening to this sort of vocals)
-Anyway....Does anyone have some band-info about these guys?
Q #2: I once got this Bootleg Live CD with DT's Change Of (underwear)Season,
but the whole beginning is completely different, and IMO far better than their
official release.
I actually had to duplicate the drumbeats one by one into a sequenser,
to get a grasp on it, because the rest of the band played in a completely
different signature.(I think)
I counted 7/8 on the drums, (I might be wrong on that) and they all met at #21, or 28.
-So, this CD were lost/forgotten somewhere in time, and I really miss
this killer-part.
Does anybody know of this version? and does it exist in a studio-recording?
( the Live-recording isn't the best)
...And, finally: Can it be downloaded somewhere?
Mine,
the hoe
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:29:45 +0100
From: Rhys.Jenkins@wdr.com
Subject: Mike Portnoy Drum Clinic Tour - Europe '99
Message-ID: <H000018d00f32913@MHS>
Typical, just typical,
there was I bemoaning the fact that we very rarely get decent clinics
and Mikey boy goes and does a short spell in the UK. All well and
good, but I'm going to be sunning myself on a beach in the Maldives on
the dates he's doing in the UK.
It happened exactly the same with Mr. Big & White Lion. "No, we have
no plans to tour Europe this year", so I get a job in the Middle East
for a year or two. Next thing I hear, not only do they tour, they then
split up.
And I'm still waiting for tours by Tony Macalpine, Greg Howe, Paul
Gilbert etc. Faces that are unlikely to appear in Blighty for other
than a one off show in London every ten years, when they seem to be
constantly playing in the US
Anyways, gripe over.
I'm looking forward to getting Mullmuzzler, Transistor - TNT and Steve
Vai's - The Ultra Zone. Any reviews or news on these titles.
Feeling hard done by, so slipping back into lurk mode
Rhys
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:00:22 +1000
From: Graham Boyle <ytsejam@ozemail.com.au>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: New Royal Hunt Singer
Message-ID: <378DBF46.A84F2F46@ozemail.com.au>
A little dickie bird has told me the new singer for
the sadly departed DC Cooper in Royal Hunt is
non other than Artention man John West.
I guess we'll wait and see.....
gaz
www.ozemail.com.au/~ytsejam
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 06:53:23 -0500
From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: The grove still groves... And more.
Message-ID: <378DCBB3.105571C8@isd.net>
Dr. Teeth wrote:
>Well according to your logic, then an old LP would win grand-champion of
>sound reproduction, wouldn't it? I mean, they're bigger, aren't they? I
>haven't seen a record-player at any of the recent audiophile conventions
>lately. Wonder why?
It sounds to me like you've been attending the pseudo-audiophile conventions.
Vinyl is STILL the reining king of reproduction. Quite expensive though...
The digital formats have gained much ground in the past decade, but the
FACT of the matter is: Top quality analog is STILL unmatched in tonal
accuracy. Also, the dynamic range of hi-end analog still exceeds the
human hearing range. But you're not going there with a $125.00 turntable.
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Mike Patrick wrote:
>Think about it...do you ever see Liddy and Tony Levin in the same room
>together? Hmm...
That's funny! You never seen Frank Zappa, and Leon Redbone in the same
room either. Holy shit! Frank may still be with us... I can dream, right?
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Mike Verstraete wrote:
>Has anyone been successful in finding Planet X? I've been to my local Best
>Buy and Circuit City but no luck. When I asked the clerks about it they
>looked at me like I had monkeys flying out of my ass.
They can fly?
--
Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist
^
Switchcraft Microsystems
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
When you live in the land of 10,000.00 lakes,
it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:25:47 -0400
From: "Giannotti, Nick" <GiannottiN@hanscom.af.mil>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Denon
Message-ID: <390762D98D63D2118C280060081358CC8F57A6@hamsxha2.hanscom.af.mil>
Brian Lundy wrote,
>The clear and definate winner,
>out of the 4 we heard, was the Denon. No real surprise there.
That's because, out of all the 'big name' companies out there, Denon's the
only one that benchmarks their equipment and blank media with real
instruments as opposed to electronic tones. They know their shit, inside and
out, AFAIC.
Nicholas Giannotti x6745
Joint STARS Contracts
giannottin@hanscom.af.mil
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Out the token ring, through the router, down the fiber, off a switch, past
the firewall, down the T1 ... nothing but Net.
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