YTSEJAM Digest 4947
Today's Topics:
1) MP3s rules! / King Crimson
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
2) Dominic Miller?
by "Sasha" <sasa.cabaravdic@pu.tel.hr>
3) i'm off
by Michael Mah / HadeSlayeR <cybersaint@cyberjunkie.com>
4) Re: Thanks to Gravity...
by Steve Chew <schew@tislabs.com>
5) re:another dimension
by "T. Beachler" <biggestmuff@yahoo.com>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4946
by CHAZRUSHAM@aol.com
7) Re: METAL on MTV! Vote for AMORPHIS....URGENT!!!!!
by YtseJamJMB@aol.com
8) Re: Dominic Miller?
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
9) Doh!
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
10) RE: LTE2 sounds like Christian Music (j/k) hehehe.
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
11) Planet X
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4946
by RushLLP@aol.com
13) Re: Woah....Was it Metallica?
by jeff hochberg <slave1@nycap.rr.com>
14) Re: The new Mike project!??
by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
15) Re: Bahr bootleg question
by JamesAhab@aol.com
16) Re: MP3s rules! / King Crimson
by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
17) LTE2 on Billboard
by "Robert Sindermann" <sindermann@get2net.dk>
18) Re: NEED MORE LTE!!!!!
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
19) Re: LTE2 on Billboard
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
20) parting wisdom
by "Frank Benenati" <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
21) RE: Planet X Full Album
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:34:52 +0200
From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: MP3s rules! / King Crimson
Message-ID: <37776BEC.AF62A7F7@mol.com.mk>
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 17:23:11 -0700 (PDT)
> From: trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
>
> the RIAA are kind of a police unit for the music biz. They make
> a big deal out of little things like mp3s and generally make
> themselves a nuisance. ... Okie, I've got a question, Does the
> RIAA only handle matters relating to America or are they
> global? Just curious.
and then he said .... :)
> -- check out my mp3s --
> http://members.xoom.com/el_trento
Now why he would be curious? ;o)
*--* And now for something completely diferent *--*
I had kinda fight with a friend on the King Cromson issue! :)
We both don't know much of their music, we heard 1, 2 albums and that's
all! BUT, my concept about King Crimson is very different that his! ....
The topic was :
WHAT IS KING CRIMSON TRADEMARK SOUND, MUSIC???
>From what I know, and from what I could read on the jam sicne I'm on it,
.. it seems to me that King Crimson trademark music and the thing for
which they're famous in the prog world are albums liek Discipline! I
have only this KC album and I LOVE IT! He hates it! :) I bought him
Thrak for birthday (I just heard it a little in the store, I don't know
the album otherwise) and he hated it too! Now Thrak is really weird
stuff but has some few very cool prog songs!
He's deadly sure that REAL King Crimson are those at the beginning, with
Keith Emerson on keys 'n stuff, the 1-st album "In the court of KC" etc
.. He says King Crimson trademark sound are keyborads, Greg Lake,
saxophones and I say that tademark KC are Robert Fripp and Adrian Belew
weird guitars, Levin etc ... EXACTLY music like Discipline! Discipline
is really some new music, weird, innovative.
But c'mon, Lake left after the 1-st album and ... KC and saxophone or
keyborads????
I heard that album only twice, I don't recall at all, but what I
remember is that the only song with prog elements is 21st Century
Schizoid Man! :( Not that others are bad songs, but they aren't so prog
IMHO. They're nice tunes in the manner of Camel.
Also whenever I read KC praisings on the jam Discipline was included so
..
So, who's right? :)
Also, if I like Discipline and if I like the tracks VROOM, Dinosaur,
People and Sex Sleep Eat Drink Dream from Thrak - which albums I should
get first?
-- CyberDuke ________________________________________"Lisa, get away from that jazzer!" - Simpsons ________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 18:10:19 +0200 From: "Sasha" <sasa.cabaravdic@pu.tel.hr> To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Dominic Miller? Message-ID: <000b01bec181$006ae520$1de91dc3@sasa>
hey! i am just listening to "Broken China" by Rick Wright (of Pink Floyd). And among other musicians who worked on the album, there`s this guy Dominic Miller who played guitars on a few tracks. So, does anyone know anything about him? With whom he played and stuff like that?
thanx
NP: Rick Wright [Broken China] - Along The Shoreline
"Lifting shadows off a dream Once broken She can turn a drop of water Into an ocean..."
John Myung of Dream Theater ["Lifting Shadows Off A Dream"]
sasa.cabaravdic@pu.tel.hr ICQ UIN - 6098813
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Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 00:27:01 +0800 From: Michael Mah / HadeSlayeR <cybersaint@cyberjunkie.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: i'm off Message-ID: <3777A255.EA8ACBB9@cyberjunkie.com>
hey there guys it's been nice..but i gotta unsubscribe now.. cuz i'm leaving for aussie... will sub again when i'm settled in there maybe 1-3 weeks or so..tataz
-- laterz, Mike aka HadeSlayeR EMAIL:cybersaint@cyberjunkie.com The Oracles:http://www.cyberjunkie.com/cybersaint
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:21:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Chew <schew@tislabs.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Thanks to Gravity... Message-ID: <199906281621.MAA20011@clipper.gw.tislabs.com>
> >Hey Trevor and all interested in TTG.... > Bad news in the world of Thanks to Gravity... they have not broken up >but have lost a (vital) member and are in the re-working phase of their >band. To get the "whole" story: www.thankstogravity.com >
Does anyone have a URL for some samples of Thanks to Gravity? I didn't see any on their web page. Thanks!
Steve
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:46:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "T. Beachler" <biggestmuff@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re:another dimension Message-ID: <19990628164633.24266.rocketmail@web113.yahoomail.com>
>Anybody notice that starting around 0:55 of another >dimension on LTE2 = >that the band is playing a riff which sounds like "another >dimension"? Maybe thats why they named it that.....just a >thought...
You are correct, sir! JP discussed this at I clinic I attended.
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:44:36 EDT From: CHAZRUSHAM@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4946 Message-ID: <4363674d.24a90074@aol.com>
In a message dated 6/28/99 8:52:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ytsejam@ax.com writes:
<< What ever hapenned with that one, MP with Neal Morse from SB and who else??? Was Neal responsible for 90% (if not 100% as I heard) of SB music??? If it's true I just can't imagine how can they complement each other. It will surely be an interesting album! -- CyberDuke >>
Mike Portnoy's "Supergroup" project Added on 05-28-1999
Mike Portnoy's side project with Neal Morse (Spock's Beard) and Pete Trewavas (Marillion) is back on! This project was originally scheduled to take place in December 1998, with Jim Matheos of Fates Warning on guitar, but got put on the shelf due to the postponement of the Liquid Tension Experiment 2 recordings.
Mike Portnoy, Neal Morse and Pete Trewavas will be entering the studio with Flower Kings guitarist Roine Stolt at the end of June for approximately one week. There is no title for this project yet.
Also in June, Mike will be playing on a few tracks on Andy West's solo album (bassplayer of the Dixie Dregs). Mike is merely being hired as a "session player", so this should not be seen as new side project.
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:08:46 EDT From: YtseJamJMB@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: METAL on MTV! Vote for AMORPHIS....URGENT!!!!! Message-ID: <bbd588e1.24a9061e@aol.com>
What about Fear Factory, they are one kick ass metal band as well and the drummer has some insane feet too. Although they did a stupid cover that doesn't even begin to explain their style, vote for them too or get their albums. If you are a drummer I think you would.
Later, Justin
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1993 11:06:38 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Dominic Miller? Message-ID: <001c01b807d8$34be3660$0201010a@chuck.meserver.com>
>among other musicians who worked on the album, there`s this guy Dominic >Miller who played guitars on a few tracks. So, does anyone know anything >about him? With whom he played and stuff like that?
As far as I know, he's played with Sting on all of his studio albums. I'm not for sure about >all< but he did play on "The Soul Cages" and "Ten Summoner's Tales" which are both supercalifragilisticexpialidocious albums. *Korg's tongue turns into laffy taffy left out in the sun on a hot day.*
"another >dimension"? Maybe thats why they named it that.....just a >thought...
You can also sing the "joggers to jog on and doggies to dog on, religious fanatics will make it be all gone" part of Frank Zappa's "Dumb All Over" to the main riff of AD, too. That stuck out like a sore thumb the first time I heard it.
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1993 11:31:49 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Doh! Message-ID: <000501b807da$27377720$0201010a@chuck.meserver.com>
I accidentally hit the send button prematurely whilst contuing my research for my last post. :) There is (not much) more information about Mr. Miller at http://www.dominicmiller.com/ (whatdya know?). Apparently, he has done quite a bit of studio for for quite a few people. :) I always thought his guitar playing was very hmm... tasteful? for a lack of a better term. He seems like he's got the chops but isn't overindulgent. I like that. :)
As far as the Frank Zappa riff, I think I meant Biaxident rather than AD for the riff. heheh. I don't have my CD here for reference, sorry. :) You'll know it if you hear it, or I'm eating Corn soup again. hehehe. -- KorgX3 NP: Loreena McKennitt - The Visit
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:57:33 -0700 From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: LTE2 sounds like Christian Music (j/k) hehehe. Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649016AE721@messaging>
John Tesh rulez! :)
</sarcasm>
<<<< And is it just me (I'll probably get hella-flamed by someone for this), but does the intro to Biaxident sound like a tip of the hat to John Tesh or what? :) Serious, that piano playing sounds alot like something John Tesh would do. *ducks* -- KorgX3 >>>>
David Dixon, MCP Consultant E-Commerce & Internet Technology Solutions Integrated Information Systems, Inc. david@iisweb.com ytsedave@asu.edu
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:23:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Planet X Message-ID: <19990628182342.5859.rocketmail@web125.yahoomail.com>
Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de> wrote:
> here are some albums, you should watch out for : > JULY : > Derek Sherinian - Planet X (13th)
I thought that it was out already? I listened to it this weekend. It was in the used cd section of a local cd store. Anyone near Sunnyvale, California knows which store I'm talking about, if they want to grab it...
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:38:43 EDT From: RushLLP@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4946 Message-ID: <e7b7bbe.24a91b33@aol.com>
In a message dated 99-06-28 11:52:59 EDT, you write:
<< That's not upstate (big laugh). I'll show you upstate :P Hell, I can see Toronto on a clear day (just teasing), evidently though there is some spot from Rochester, NY where it is rumored that you can see Toronto - I think it's some sort of weird opticle illusion of the CN Tower reflecting in Lake Ontario. Don't know if this is true or not (being that I never have seen it). Anybody else ever hear this tale? >>
Yes Babs, actually I grew up in Rochester, and my friend's house was RIGHT ON the lake in Webster... I could see the CN tower with binoculars. there's a really long pier in Irondequoit Bay, that's the furthest out onto the lake I've ever been, but I couldn't see Toronto without any visual aids. I think that'sa local myth.
--Matthew
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:40:24 -0400 From: jeff hochberg <slave1@nycap.rr.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Woah....Was it Metallica? Message-ID: <3777C198.9838C204@nycap.rr.com>
Recent pix from http://www.metontour.com confirm that James and Kirk do appear to be growing their hair out again. Good eye, Compadre. ;)
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:18:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org> To: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> Subject: Re: The new Mike project!?? Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.05.9906281517480.28607-100000@typhoon.ocis.temple.edu>
> What ever hapenned with that one, MP with Neal Morse from SB and who > else??? > Was Neal responsible for 90% (if not 100% as I heard) of SB music??? If > it's true I just can't imagine how can they complement each other. It > will surely be an interesting album!
According to Neal, they're going into the studio tomorrow (Tuesday) with the guitarist from the Flower Kings and the bass player (Pete) from Marillion. They'll be in the studio about a week or so.
- mike.
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:20:27 EDT From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Bahr bootleg question Message-ID: <94c13282.24a924fb@aol.com>
>< Several interesting comments regarding Bahr's Prism releases have cropped up lately. For starters, someone (Nick Bogovich, perhaps?) mentioned that Bahr had tried to pass off some material as DT music when it in fact was not. I'm aware that this is the case with the "Autumn Moon" piece on Scenes from a Memory; has he done this anywhere else? I always found it difficult to believe that the horrendous acoustic piece on Subconscious titled "Experimental" was actually Myung. Also, did Bahr rip off Myung's instructional video on Precious Things? There are a few odd tracks on that disc which are supposedly from Japanese archival tapes. Is this a line of feces? ><
I don't know about the Myung stuff, but he did record a DT liveconcerts.com webcast and tried to pass it off as "his best-sounding bootleg" called Stream of Consciousness
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:25:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: MP3s rules! / King Crimson Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.05.9906281521160.28607-100000@typhoon.ocis.temple.edu>
> WHAT IS KING CRIMSON TRADEMARK SOUND, MUSIC???
THERE IS NONE.
That's the beauty of Crimson. The sound changes every album, depending on who's on it.
> But c'mon, Lake left after the 1-st album and ... KC and saxophone or > keyborads????
Actually, yes. The mid-era Crimson (1972-1974) features David Cross on mellotron/violin and Fripp on guitar and mellotron.
> So, who's right? :)
Thankfully, you both are!
> Also, if I like Discipline and if I like the tracks VROOM, Dinosaur, > People and Sex Sleep Eat Drink Dream from Thrak - which albums I should > get first?
Get your hands on Beat and Three Of A Perfect Pair - the other 2 from the 1981-1984 Crimson era.
- mike.
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:20:44 +0200 From: "Robert Sindermann" <sindermann@get2net.dk> To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: LTE2 on Billboard Message-ID: <000701bec19b$55c1abc0$51d952c3@rob>
Uhm, did you know that LTE2 is No. 8 in the Billboard internet cd sales = chart?? It's kinda surreal seeing them among the likes of Ricky Martin = and The Backstreet Boys... Man, talk about a cult following. Fuck, yeah!
Rob ------------------------------- The Chaos Engine - CD cover and packaging designs website: http://hjem.get2net.dk/sindermann e-mail: sindermann@get2net.dk
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:40:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: NEED MORE LTE!!!!! Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990628153840.29752C-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Carlos Alfaro wrote:
> > Does anybody know if LTE is going to record again? Two records is far > > too little for me. I love listening to jamming, pure and simple. It > > must be good jamming, such as LTE. I like jazz a lot, but it doesn't > > have the energy that Prog Rock has. > > It must be late. > > I think mike had mentioned that there wasnt going to be any more LTE > cds... check out some of the updates from mike on UACM..its gotta be > there..
This is what Mike himself said on the matter: Since there is now three quarters of LTE acting as three fifths of Dream Theater, he didn't see anything happening with an LTE III. I think that would make sense.
------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu http://cout.home.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- I like to go down to the dog pound and pretend that I've found my dog. Then I tell them to kill it anyway because I already gave away all of his stuff. Dog people sure don't have a sense of humor. -------------------------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:50:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: LTE2 on Billboard Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990628154835.29752D-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Robert Sindermann wrote:
> Uhm, did you know that LTE2 is No. 8 in the Billboard internet cd sales = > chart?? It's kinda surreal seeing them among the likes of Ricky Martin = > and The Backstreet Boys... Man, talk about a cult following. Fuck, yeah!
AMEN BROTHER! I've already posted about my cool experience playing LTE for some friends of mine that I met while at this theatre festival, but I'm going home on Sunday and while I'm there, I'm going to pick up the copy of LTE2 that has been sitting in the cardboard delivery package collecting dust for the past week and bring it back with me. And then I'm going to BLOW these friends AWAY when I play it for them!
The neatest thing (to me), though, is that two of the people I played it for were girls. I hadn't MET a girl yet who liked DT or the likes (I know they're out there, but I hadn't met any of them).
------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu http://cout.home.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- Never pet a burning dog. -------------------------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:01:40 -0400 From: "Frank Benenati" <fmb@frontierlogic.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: parting wisdom Message-ID: <002f01bec1a1$098418a0$1b01010a@omnioffices.com>
Syrinx is a cocklicking bitch!
l8r!!!!
-mojoman
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:29:04 -0700 From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: Planet X Full Album Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649016AE723@messaging>
Hook me up, man... :)
FYI: I already pre-ordered PX, just looking for a little pre-listen... :)
David Dixon, MCP Consultant E-Commerce & Internet Technology Solutions Integrated Information Systems, Inc. david@iisweb.com ytsedave@asu.edu
> -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Hiemstra [SMTP:bob@dreamtheater.zzn.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 3:00 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Planet X Full Album > > > I have just downloaded Planet X in mp3 format from the internet > if anyone is interested in the url mail me > > > > Get FREE dreamtheater.zzn.com email at http://www.dreamtheater.net/ > ___________________________________________________________ > Get your own Web-based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com
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