YTSEJAM digest 4952

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Thu Jul 01 1999 - 02:35:01 EDT


                            YTSEJAM Digest 4952

Today's Topics:

  1) RE: PF/Anthrax
 by "Eric Trautmann" <etrautmann@cds-net.com>
  2) Re: spiral architect?
 by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
  3) PF
 by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
  4) re: Journey
 by "robbie" <robbiemusic@aculink.net>
  5) Dragon Con
 by "Dave Leon" <masterpsy@mindspring.com>
  6) Re: LTE2 drumming, Dali's
 by "Anderson, Brian D" <BAnderson@sdms.usa.xerox.com>
  7) Spock's Beard
 by Thor Bremer <odinson9@hotmail.com>
  8) Re: Dali's Dilemma
 by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
  9) zonder impression?
 by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
 10) re: Speaking of Floyd...Gilmour solo
 by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
 11) re: Pat Thrall
 by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
 12) Re: Spock's Beard
 by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
 13) The Great Pig in the Sky...
 by "indii" <indii@vistatech.net>
 14) The Great Pig In The Sky
 by "indii" <indii@vistatech.net>
 15) re: cd-rw
 by QueEsDick@aol.com
 16) RE: PF/ ANTHRAX
 by Diablo6491@aol.com
 17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4951
 by "Tom Johnson" <signals2000@home.com>
 18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4951
 by DrummerEsh@aol.com
 19) Majesty demos mp3?
 by "sK@RRe" <skarre@2.sbbs.se>
 20) Metal
 by Outlander 99 <outlander28@hotmail.com>

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:16:53 -0400
From: "Eric Trautmann" <etrautmann@cds-net.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: PF/Anthrax
Message-ID: <000501bec313$f742d5e0$0501010a@PC16>

Nick Giannotti said:

>Come to think of it..... I've never heard a BAD Pink Floyd disc. Is there
any?

Yep - all of them. :)

/me is one of the minority of Pink Floyd Haters on this list, I think....

I find it hard to believe that someone on this list could actually "hate"
Pink Floyd. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but I am curious why
you feel this way.

Today's prog may owe more to the likes of YES and Rush, but PF does have an
influence.

Eric

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 09:30:37 -0700
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: spiral architect?
Message-ID: <199906301630.JAA22967@gms.gmsnet.com>

Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., Ryan Good thus begged:
>
>anyone know about this band Spiral Architect?

The latest word is November this year from Sensory... with
Neil Kernon producing.

-The Doc

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 09:28:48 -0700 From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: PF Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649016AE73C@messaging>

>> Today's prog may owe more to the likes of YES and Rush, but PF does have an >> influence.

Again, PF is not "prog" in the technical sense of the word, but in the "cerebral" sense, as I believe someone put it. They have much more of an influence on mindset and ideas than musical aspects, I think...

David Dixon, MCP Consultant E-Commerce & Internet Technology Solutions Integrated Information Systems, Inc. david@iisweb.com ytsedave@asu.edu

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:48:30 -0600 From: "robbie" <robbiemusic@aculink.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re: Journey Message-ID: <199906301646.KAA20387@ganymede.aculink.net>

Steves Perry and Smith aren't original members anyway. Gregg Rolie handled almost all of the lead vocal duties with occaisional lead vocals from Neal Schon. Now he and Ross Valory are the only original members left in the band.

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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 13:01:18 -0500 From: "Dave Leon" <masterpsy@mindspring.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Dragon Con Message-ID: <003b01beaac6$7ab855a0$4c421004@oemcomputer>

Hey, I'm going to be a newbie at Dragon Con this year. I would love to meet any Jammers out there who are going to the con. I should be there on Friday late afternoon.

-Dr. Dave.

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 15:13:42 -0400 From: "Anderson, Brian D" <BAnderson@sdms.usa.xerox.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: LTE2 drumming, Dali's Message-ID: <BF85F885643CD21188230008C756293515E0E0@crte128-2.wrc.xerox.com>

Alexis wrote:

> pleasant surprise it was when I listened to When the Water Breaks. At > the beginning (and later at the end again) Portnoy does an incredible > Mark Zonder impersonation (he's not copying Zonder, but he definitely > plays in that same incredible style).

I've been meaning to comment on the beginning of When the Water Breaks. I'll be damned if that whole beginning part doesn't sound like Fates. I can't remember which song . . . maybe it's A Pleasant Shade of Grey, or something off of Parallels . . . I don't remember. But it sure does sound similar. I see others have noticed. Oh well, I guess that happens a lot in songs.

-Brian Anderson

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:49:24 PDT From: Thor Bremer <odinson9@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Spock's Beard Message-ID: <19990630194924.60916.qmail@hotmail.com>

What would anybody suggest as the best Spock's Beard album? Thanks, thor Life is good when cheese is plentiful

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:54:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Dali's Dilemma Message-ID: <19990630195444.24968.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com>

>>Does anyone know if Dali's Dilemma is planning on touring?

The Doc wrote: > When was the last time you saw a Magna Carta band tour without paying > for the tour themselves or being a supergroup? > I wouldn't hold yer breath.

Let's see...Tempest plays for free in small pubs all over the place. But I'm sure that Magna Carta has nothing to do with that.

But I bet that Dali's could play a show on their own, just for fun. Somewhere close to home...maybe Mountain View? ;o)

BH

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:10:32 PDT From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: zonder impression? Message-ID: <19990630201033.54454.qmail@hotmail.com>

>But what a pleasant surprise it was when I listened to When the >Water >Breaks. At the beginning (and later at the end again) Portnoy >does an >incredible Mark Zonder impersonation (he's not copying >Zonder, but he >definitely plays in that same incredible style).

haven't noticed this....what particular times in the song are you referring to?

as far as Testament goes, just picked up Demonic yesterday....and haven't yet heard it, but the rough death metal growl concept isn't making me wanna rush home and throw it on......good thing I got it for free, huh? (raiding the school newspaper's CD bin again.....if anyone wants a copy of Fates Warning -- APSOG for pretty cheap, gimme a buzz)

partha

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:15:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re: Speaking of Floyd...Gilmour solo Message-ID: <19990630201523.2655.rocketmail@web104.yahoomail.com>

> David Gilmour: About Face(not the A-Team), a pretty decent album with > lots of guitars and 80'stuff. The rest you can forget.

Have you heard Gilmour's first, self-titled solo disc? It's not Floyd, but it's pretty darn good. It's still easy to get. I'd say it's better than About Face.

BH

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:20:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re: Pat Thrall Message-ID: <19990630202006.24067.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com>

"Tom Baddley" <tbaddley@aircell.com> wrote:

> First off, I was just reading the LTE II insert and noticed that Pat > Thrall had provided some addtnl engineering (including some digital > manipulation on some of JP's guitar tracks). Is this the same Pat Thrall that > used to play guitar in Pat Travers' band? I think he also played guitar for > Meatloaf at some point as well. Just curious.

Good question...That would also make him the same Pat Thrall that played in Automatic Man. One dollar to the first person who can name another member of that band...

BH

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 16:21:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Spock's Beard Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990630161854.26332C-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>

On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, Thor Bremer wrote:

> What would anybody suggest as the best Spock's Beard album? > Thanks, > thor > Life is good when cheese is plentiful

Oh, no, not this thread again. It's like they wait until the last one dies, and then asks the question. :) I'm not ragging on you, though, Thor.

My suggestions: I would check out Beware of Darkness. Not only is it my favorite album of theirs, but it's got a good variety of different styles on it and should give you a good idea of what kinds of music they play.

Besides, it has "The Doorway" on it.

Even though I haven't heard it yet, I also suggest you try out Kindness of Strangers, which I hear is also SB at their best. Day For Night is a good album, but I don't even think that I'd put it in the same category as BoD, except for "The Healing Colors of Sound," which I abso0lutely no-doubts love. If it's one thing SB can do, it's long songs.

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Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:33:15 -0400 From: "indii" <indii@vistatech.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: The Great Pig in the Sky... Message-ID: <000001bec343$00cfdc00$c983cbcf@matts>

Also, "Learning to Fly" is arguably the most beautiful song I've EVER heard.

I will partially agree with you here. Partially meaning it's in my top 5 (no flames, please) of most beautiful songs. Comfortably Numb, is my favorite, also including Pachebel's Canon, SB's June (damn! i just dled this the other day and i mean.. damn, this song rocks), and Jeff Buckley's Hallelujah.

(Animals) just gotten this disc, and only given it two listens thus far. It's pretty damn cool though!

Yup.. i bought this a while back.. listened to it twice and never really got it!.. but after some of my neighbors "special" cigaretts i finally GOT IT!.. kick ass album... Especially the 17 minute long "Dogs".

David Dixon > My favorite live versions of many classic PF tunes are on "Delicate Sound of > Thunder". "The Division Bell" rocks, too.... :)

I agree again. Delicate Sound..., and The Division Bell are great too. Come to think of it..... I've never heard a BAD Pink Floyd disc. Is there any?

I've got Division Bell, and only listened to it twice ('cept for tracks 9 and 10, can't remember the names...but 10 is a hellova song...) and i still haven't got it... Hope my neighbors home now....maybe it's time to learn to fly again.... :)

indii icq 20280371

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 17:57:17 -0400 From: "indii" <indii@vistatech.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: The Great Pig In The Sky Message-ID: <001a01bec343$85c296a0$c983cbcf@matts>

Also, "Learning to Fly" is arguably the most beautiful song I've EVER heard.

I will partially agree with you here. Partially meaning it's in my top 5 (no flames, please) of most beautiful songs. Comfortably Numb, is my favorite, also including Pachebel's Canon, SB's June (damn! i just dled this the other day and i mean.. damn, this song rocks), and Jeff Buckley's Hallelujah.

(Animals) just gotten this disc, and only given it two listens thus far. It's pretty damn cool though!

Yup.. i bought this a while back.. listened to it twice and never really got it!.. but after some of my neighbors "special" cigaretts i finally GOT IT!.. kick ass album... Especially the 17 minute long "Dogs".

David Dixon > My favorite live versions of many classic PF tunes are on "Delicate Sound of > Thunder". "The Division Bell" rocks, too.... :)

I agree again. Delicate Sound..., and The Division Bell are great too. Come to think of it..... I've never heard a BAD Pink Floyd disc. Is there any?

I've got Division Bell, and only listened to it twice ('cept for tracks 9 and 10, can't remember the names...but 10 is a hellova song...) and i still haven't got it... Hope my neighbors home now....maybe it's time to learn to fly again.... :)

indii icq 20280371

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:13:28 EDT From: QueEsDick@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: re: cd-rw Message-ID: <25376542.24abf088@aol.com>

i have a Memorex 2216. i have never had any problems with mine. i have burned just about anything imaginable, and except for a software glitch that i had to take care of, the drive has been perfect. i do have a friend who got a philips about a year ago. it went bad a few weeks after he got it, filling the cd's with lots of pops. i can recommend a Memorex writer, but thats about the extent of my experience.

hope that helps

nik

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:44:20 EDT From: Diablo6491@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: RE: PF/ ANTHRAX Message-ID: <ec40f788.24abf7c4@aol.com>

<< Yep - all of them. :) /me is one of the minority of Pink Floyd Haters on this list, I think.... >>

I thought I was the only one . . . then there were TWO:>

RaY

-A charging steed through lands of time . . . -

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 16:38:26 -0700 From: "Tom Johnson" <signals2000@home.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4951 Message-ID: <004301bec351$a6cd6b00$b9720518@phnx3.az.home.com>

>------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:33:09 -0400 >From: "Frank Benenati" <fmb@frontierlogic.com> >To: <ytsejam@ax.com> >Subject: syrinx is... >Message-ID: 001201bec266$38a14b60$1b01010a@omnioffices.com> > > >Syrinx is a cocksucking loser with no life! > >Amen to that! > >-mojoman >

Okay, ENOUGH. This has got to be the most childish thing I've EVER seen on a mailing list. What are we, five years old? Get this loser off the list. Grow up, mojoman.

(Shall we send in Dr. Evil to steal his "mo-jo"?)

Tom

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 22:01:56 EDT From: DrummerEsh@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4951 Message-ID: <cfbe7126.24ac2614@aol.com>

In a message dated 6/30/99 9:11:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ytsejam@ax.com writes:

<< SOYCD >> what does this stand for?

-Esh www.phosphenes.com

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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 04:46:47 +0200 From: "sK@RRe" <skarre@2.sbbs.se> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Majesty demos mp3? Message-ID: <377AD697.5675B1A4@2.sbbs.se>

Is there a collection of Majesty demo mp3's somewhere?

Thanks! -- sK@RRe  mailto:skarre@2.sbbs.se  http://hem.fyristorg.com/dt

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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 02:21:17 EDT From: Outlander 99 <outlander28@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Metal Message-ID: <19990701062120.73072.qmail@hotmail.com>

What ever happened to little Danny Spitz since his departure?

Man, i have no idea at all...but while we're on this subject...how about that Frank Bello eh?....anyone know what strings he uses?? they ring like Bell/Bellos ;>

Well, their Demonic album is certainly a "death-metal" style disc......but I highly recommend their new one, entitled The Gathering. It still has rough vox (not as 100% rough as Demonic, though), but it's much more melodic. Oh, and it's HEAVY. Very, very HEAVY.

Ive heard good things...my friend told me that "3 days of Darkness" is like REAL "Testament"

Well Jeff was alone and the show was hellish.

I second that!! so you saw the same tour i did eh?...was Testament there with "The New Order"? was it club or arena? Jeff was killin' me...was he making those chessy grins cuz he knows he sounds like two guitars??...my bassist and I commented after the show that....he would purposely make this funny face and just when youre getting ready to bust out laughing he hit you with this fast,tasteful, clean, toneful phrase.

I think he got some kind of sick pleasure watching a mob of faces change expressions at the same time. I love his Distortion/Clean<delays and verbs and choruses>/Distortion riffs that he alwys comes up with.....ive alwys said that Vai and Waters are the best at that technique.

Metal Church reunion WHATWHATWHAT!!!!!

<Watch it go!> "I know these are the badlands, somehow i'll find my way!" KILLER!!! "Allright boys, thats another one for the fire"--NotLD

Iron Maiden with Bruce and Adrian Did you know that they are keeping Jannick Gers as well?? <3 Guitars> They asked them how they would write with 3 and they said there will be certain times when the 3rd guitar will ease back and others where both will play rhythm while the other throws the lead. I CANT WAIT!

I cant help to think that this will lend itself nicely to the melody lines Outlander out

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