YTSEJAM digest 5714

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Wed Dec 27 2000 - 20:08:47 EST

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Change of email address
     by "Coenen, Marcel" <marcel.coenen@libertel-vs.nl>
      2) Crouching tiger, hidden dragon
     by Dyne <Dyne@home.com>
      3) RE: Napster
     by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
      4) RE: Acoustic Dreams
     by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
      5) Upcoming Fates Warning/Savatage Tour??
     by MTeiper@aol.com
      6) RE: coupla things...Sava
     by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
      7) RE: the newest DT site !!
     by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
      8) Re: Upcoming Fates Warning/Savatage Tour??
     by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
      9) The Christmas surprise
     by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
     10) Re: Crouching tiger, hidden dragon
     by Robert Muise <robbm@primushost.com>
     11) for Derek fans
     by "Trevor Hoit" <thoit@winstar.com>
     12) 'Tage
     by "Trevor Hoit" <thoit@winstar.com>
     13) savajosh
     by Joshua Rasiel <megafunk@optonline.net>
     14) Savatage
     by "Joe DeAngelo" <jdeangelo@home.com>
     15) Re: savatage
     by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
     16) limited Savatage knowledge....
     by Eric George <edgeorge@geneva.edu>
     17) Re: limited Savatage knowledge....
     by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <prog@yunque.net>
     18) acoustic dreams.......
     by Eric George <edgeorge@geneva.edu>
     19) new email
     by "Rachel Goldenberg" <wisha@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
     20) HaHa
     by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
     21) Atlanta, GA - Music Midtown Festival
     by bduester@avana.net
     22) Re: Upcoming Fates Warning/Savatage Tour??
     by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
     23) acos from last leg of 2000 tour
     by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
     24) Re: acos from last leg of 2000 tour
     by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
     25) Re: acos from last leg of 2000 tour
     by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
     26) The 'Tage
     by "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>

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    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 10:17:12 +0100
    From: "Coenen, Marcel" <marcel.coenen@libertel-vs.nl>
    To: "'mcoenen@home.nl'" <mcoenen@home.nl>
    Subject: Change of email address
    Message-ID: <7B91E207F265D311866F0008C7F3785C69EE1E@iris.libertel-vs.nl>

    Hello all !!

    Just want to inform you that my work email address has changed. the new
    address is:

    marcel.coenen@libertel.nl

    Please update your address book.

    My home email address will stay the same: mcoenen@home.nl

    Greetz and already a happy new year !!!!

    Marcel Coenen
    Guitarist Sun Caged
    http://www.marcelcoenen.com
    http://www.mp3.com/marcelcoenen
    icq: 22168027

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    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 02:07:18 -0800
    From: Dyne <Dyne@home.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Crouching tiger, hidden dragon
    Message-ID: <3A49BF56.B579A391@home.com>

    Anyone else seen the movie "crouching tiger, hidden dragon?"

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    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 07:04:40 -0600
    From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
    To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: RE: Napster
    Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D10C9@ISDCRE00>

    This has already been in place for quite a while. Just search for whatever
    you are looking for.

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Andre Navarro [SMTP:gan_andre@hotmail.com]
    > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 8:46 PM
    > To: Multiple recipients of list
    > Subject: Napster
    >
    >
    > I have an idea, youll all prolly just ignore me but oh well....
    >
    > How bout if everybody that uses napster puts 'ytsejam' or 'ytsejammer' on
    > ur
    > dream theater rareties/live etc or just mp3s u would like to share with
    > the
    > jammers, so we could just search for 'ytsejammer' and pow we get all these
    >
    > cool mp3s. Just an idea, oh and this dosent apply to studio albums
    >
    >

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    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 07:16:26 -0600
    From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
    To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: RE: Acoustic Dreams
    Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D10CB@ISDCRE00>

    Yeah, those of us that bought the original silver-CD that Mike Bahr put out
    on the Ytsejam.. :)

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Adam N. Yarter [SMTP:jaguirre@ix.netcom.com]
    > Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 12:45 AM
    > To: Multiple recipients of list
    > Subject: Acoustic Dreams
    >
    >
    > Hey, does anyone know if there's a higher quality copy of acoustic dreams
    > than the MP3 bootleg I keep finding?
    >
    > Thanks..
    >
    > Kindest regards,
    > Adam

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    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 08:59:03 EST
    From: MTeiper@aol.com
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Upcoming Fates Warning/Savatage Tour??
    Message-ID: <66.ab46706.277b4fa7@aol.com>

    Hi gang -

    I just heard a rumor from a friend of mine (who heard through a guy he works
    with) about an upcoming Fates Warning/Savatage tour, and the only thing I can
    find on the net about it is on the official FW webpage
    (http://www.fateswarning.com):

    "A close source has stated that there may be a possiblity of a Fates
    Warning/Savatage tour in 2001"

    Does anyone have any more info than this, or at least know where to find
    additional info? As of right now, there's nothing on http://www.savatage.com
    or Mike Kizer's Ivory Gate website.

    That tour would KICK ASS, although like many of you, I was extremely
    disappointed by the Pitrelli and Stevens 'Tage departures. I'm hopeful that
    their replacements will be at least similar in style and sound.

    Laterz... Matt T.

    NP: In Flames "Colony"

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    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 08:14:26 -0600
    From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
    To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: RE: coupla things...Sava
    Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D10D0@ISDCRE00>

    Hall of the Mountain King is still the only Savatage CD I've ever cared for.
    Anything after that (to ME) just went off on a tangent..
    Mileage varies!!

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Steven Zebrowski [SMTP:szebro1@gl.umbc.edu]
    > Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 11:04 AM
    > To: Multiple recipients of list
    > Subject: coupla things...
    >
    >
    > Hmmm...I sure haven't posted in a while. (I'm sure no one missed me.)
    > Speaking of which: it's good to see you again, Ytse-Ben!!! Have your
    > testicles descended yet? :)
    >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > My cousin got an HP Journada 548 Color Pocket PC with
    > > 32mb and internet, for Christmas. She's currently
    > > trying to decide if it's worth keeping or it should be
    > > returned, so we're trying to find info/advice on
    > > hand-held PCs in general, and this HP one in
    >
    > Well, not to be vague or anything, but depending on what you're going
    > to use it for, you might be better off with a Palm M100 or a pen and
    > an address book. :)
    >
    > Seriously, it all depends on what she's gonna use it for. If she's
    > serious about the functionality of her handheld, one word: iPaq! (You
    > can run Linux on it!)
    >
    > > > I asked if they would be continuing with
    > > > the counterpoint vocals on the new one, and he said they
    > > > pop up on a couple of songs, but, in his words, "it's pretty much
    > > > back to the Mountain King days." Hmmmm...
    > >
    > > This is kinda what I'm afraid of....... :(
    >
    > Me too. I CRINGE...
    >
    > > I'm a HUGE fan of the last 4 Sava CDs....... but as for
    > > stuff like Hall of the Mountain King...... I don't think I've
    > listened to
    > > that CD but 3 or 4 times in the couple years I've had it.
    >
    > I'm with you 100%. I was crushed whn Al Pitrelli (one of the most
    > emotive guitarists out there, IMO) left to joined that hack band
    > Megadeth for the big money and fabulous prizes. Then when Zak left, I
    > was crushed again - he's one of the best singers around.
    >
    > The only pre-Zak CD's I have are Hall of the Mountain King and
    > Streets, and none of them really do anything for me. I mean, Criss is
    > great (though I prefer Al), and the story is good on Streets, but
    > that's about it. Now, Edge of Thorns is awesome, as is DWD and TWoM.
    > I don't have Poets and Madmen. is it good?
    >
    > In other news, I ordered my JP/JR CDs on, like, the 21st of December.
    > They're here already! The website said four weeks, not four days!
    > Cool.
    >
    > I guess that's it.
    >
    > See yous later,
    >
    > Steve Z

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    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 08:16:05 -0600
    From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
    To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: RE: the newest DT site !!
    Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D10D1@ISDCRE00>

    Can't understand anything on the page, sorry.

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Gilberto Bressan Junior [SMTP:gbressanjr@sti.com.br]
    > Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 11:04 AM
    > To: Multiple recipients of list
    > Subject: the newest DT site !!
    >
    >
    > ytsejammers !
    >
    > go check www.dreamtheater.com.br !!
    >
    > Although the site is in portuguese, there are a lotta cool things over
    > there
    > !!!
    >
    > Thanks and c-ya
    > Gilberto & Adriana

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    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 07:38:04 -0800
    From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Upcoming Fates Warning/Savatage Tour??
    Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20001227073152.00a214f0@mail.phoenixdsl.com>

    At 06:05 AM 12/27/00 -0800, you wrote:

    >I just heard a rumor from a friend of mine (who heard through a guy he works
    >with) about an upcoming Fates Warning/Savatage tour, and the only thing I can
    >find on the net about it is on the official FW webpage
    >(http://www.fateswarning.com):
    >
    >"A close source has stated that there may be a possiblity of a Fates
    >Warning/Savatage tour in 2001"
             It is just a rumor at this point, nothing official has been
    stated... although it is a being looked into as far as I have heard
    (probably the same source as fw.com -- which is not really an official
    site, but a fan site. The only official site is the page or so listed at
    metalblade.com. Just stating this because you won't see any info like this
    on the official site, the record label will only release info when it is
    completely confirmed)...

    That tour would KICK ASS, although like many of you, I was extremely
    >disappointed by the Pitrelli and Stevens 'Tage departures. I'm hopeful that
    >their replacements will be at least similar in style and sound.
             I am really hoping that this tour comes together, if Sava finishes
    up their album quickly then it may be possible...

    ~Michael Kizer < mike@ivorygate.com > < ICQ # 2070538 >
    "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com
    >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<<
    >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<<
    >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<<

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    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 16:12:04 +0100
    From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
    To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: The Christmas surprise
    Message-ID: <3A4A06C4.8EE7DD0C@mol.com.mk>

    Damn buisness tricks!!!

    They just throw in a little snippet so that you drool all over until it
    is released.
    I'm really not obsessed with buying DVD, but after watching this ...
    ummmmm ... strated to think about it. :)
    Do feel quite moronic because not so long ago I thought it's moronic
    buying a DVD player just because some DT DVD (as some jammers said). But
    now ... damn.

    How much can DVD player cost, without speakers, ... just the player?

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    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 11:01:35 -0500 (EST)
    From: Robert Muise <robbm@primushost.com>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: Crouching tiger, hidden dragon
    Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.30.0012271101180.15333-100000@barrel.ecosoft.com>

    I saw it last night..

    nothing short of incredible.

    On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Dyne wrote:

    >
    > Anyone else seen the movie "crouching tiger, hidden dragon?"
    >

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    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 08:10:21 -0800
    From: "Trevor Hoit" <thoit@winstar.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: for Derek fans
    Message-ID: <002101c0701f$83eedb60$574b010a@winstar.com>

    I just picked up Brad Gillis-Gilrock Ranch. He was/is? a guitarist
    in Night Ranger. The album came out in 92 but has been unavailable
    for several years, but has been rereleased on Koch Records.
    Anyway, reading the liner notes, I noticed that Derek co-wrote
    6 of 10 songs and plays on 8 of 10. It's not a bad cd if you like
    solo guitar stuff. Mostly instumental with Greg Allman singing on
    one track.

    Trevor bought 20 cds at the Boxing Day Sale.

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    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 08:27:08 -0800
    From: "Trevor Hoit" <thoit@winstar.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: 'Tage
    Message-ID: <002201c07021$dc313d20$574b010a@winstar.com>

     "it's pretty much back to the Mountain
    >King days." Hmmmm...

    Just as long as it's not "back to Fight for the Rock" days!!!!

    Trevor

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    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:00:43 -0500
    From: Joshua Rasiel <megafunk@optonline.net>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: savajosh
    Message-ID: <3A4A203B.53A4AF70@optonline.com>

    My history w/savatage:

    1995: I buy ACOS and after reading the liner, subscribe to our crazy
    'jam. What is this "bafu" that they speak of?

    1996: Since everyone keeps yammin' it up, I check out Dead Winter Dead,
    and like it right away. I especially like the vocals and the neat-o
    layering of sound. I put it on the other side of a QR- Rage For Order
    tape, for the car. Yankees win series.

    1996 again: WTF, I say live life. I see another Savatage album and if
    nothing else, they sure have nice covers - always important to me. This
    one's Handful Of Rain. I take it home and I'm blown away! Chance becomes
    one of my all time favorite songs. Did I mention the yankees spanked the
    braves? Now i'm an official savafan.

    1997: Like a monkey learning a valuable lesson after getting stun-gunned
    for touching button A, I too have learned a boundary, and it goes by
    the name of "Streets". This was my introduction to Jon Oliva as a
    vocalist. I didn't give it a second thought: from that day forward, I
    resolved to never listen to anything Jon Oliva has ever sung, ever.

    1997: I'm sick of only listening to DWD, HOR, and Edge Of Thorns. On my
    way to a Chanukah party, I pop in Gutter Ballet, just to kill some time.
    It kicks ass. I like it so much, I decide to give streets another
    chance, and holy shit, it turns out Streets kicks ass too! although, it
    does seem Savatage has a real penchant for cheese when it comes to these
    story lines. They call me downtown jesus? I call you savacheese. but
    it's a very good album.

    1997: I grow to love GB and Streets as much as my Zak stuff, but I also
    notice that there's a regression with each earlier album that I buy.
    Clearly, this is a band that sucked at first and has grown and developed
    their trademark sound. I learn about "fight for the rock" and "power of
    the night" and "fight for the night" and "power of the rock" and decide
    I won't buy anything earlier than GB, especially since I hear TWoM is
    supposed to come out soon.

    1997: I hear TWoM is supposed to come out soon.

    1997: I hear TWoM already came out. In Europe.

    1998: I hear TWom is supposed to come out soon on my continent.

    1998: TWoM is released and I LOVE IT! The best savatage album EVER! Even
    the cheesy story is incredible! Can they top this???

    Today: Ahhhh, no. They can't. But, you know,all the theatrics and the
    "food, glorious food!" and all that does begin to wear a bit thin
    sometimes. the thing I like about Gutter Ballet is, there's no
    cheesy-ass story, there's no David Copperfield crap(author, not
    magician), it's more real, and tends to be harder and more energetic. I
    know there's some story to it, insofar as it relates to oliva's
    problems, but it's not at all cheesy.

    So what I'm hoping is that this new thing will be as good or better than
    Gutter Ballet, but without the cheddar. No reason it won't be.

    -josh

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    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:09:21 -0500
    From: "Joe DeAngelo" <jdeangelo@home.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Savatage
    Message-ID: <001401c07027$c17ffd80$6e7c0b18@stcl1.mi.home.com>

    Carlos Alfaro said:

    >Savatage, in losing Zak, and not doing counterpoint style vocals (and
    staying
    >away from the concept album,
    >which i dont mind that much) is effectively shedding the very thing that
    made
    >them enjoyable to me.
    >.so im really not holding my breathfor the next release.
    >For me, Savatage as a regular metal band (older albums) is so-so..not too
    >interesting...

    I agree 100% Carlos.

    BUT on the bright side..... The new album is now going to be a concept
    album again (it wasn't originally going to be). Also, I believe they are
    still doing the counterpoint vox.

    I'm very curious to see who the new singer and guitarist are! Any
    speculations or guesses?

    - Joe D.
    (Joe hopes that Alex Skolnick is the new axe-man)

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    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 11:30:48 -0600
    From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: savatage
    Message-ID: <20001227.113114.-3189457.1.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>

    <Savatage, in losing Zak, and not doing counterpoint style vocals (and
    staying
    away from the concept album,
    which i dont mind that much) is effectively shedding the very thing that
    made
    them enjoyable to me.>

    Uhh I heard on the sava site that PM is gonna be a concept album. They
    said the had written some lyrics, then Paul took those lyrics and in his
    wonderful style sat down with em and presented an idea for a concept..
    Its been a whil since I read that, I think its something about 3 boys
    whole stumble into some abondoned wherehouse, or something like that.

    Im really lookin foward to that.

    Nice to see Matt Smith made it back to teh jam.

    Kurt
    NP-In flames Clayman
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    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:40:36 -0500 (EST)
    From: Eric George <edgeorge@geneva.edu>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: limited Savatage knowledge....
    Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1001227123646.2906A-100000@sparcy.geneva.edu>

    hey jammers,
            i love TSO, but the only savatage that i can ever remember hearing
    was the song "edge of thorns". they played it all the time about 5 years
    ago when pittsburgh actually had good rock radio stations. which of the
    two singers is on that album? zak, or jon? that'll give me an idea as to
    whether i would dig their sound or not. thanks.

                                            -ryften

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    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 14:02:07 -0400
    From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <prog@yunque.net>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: limited Savatage knowledge....
    Message-ID: <3A4A2E9F.539F4F51@yunque.net>

    As far as i can remember the singer on edge of thorns is Zak Stevens...
    you can get The wake of magellan and i think you will like it a lot!!

    Eric George wrote:

    > hey jammers,
    > i love TSO, but the only savatage that i can ever remember hearing
    > was the song "edge of thorns". they played it all the time about 5 years
    > ago when pittsburgh actually had good rock radio stations. which of the
    > two singers is on that album? zak, or jon? that'll give me an idea as to
    > whether i would dig their sound or not. thanks.
    >
    > -ryften

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    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:59:56 -0500 (EST) From: Eric George <edgeorge@geneva.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: acoustic dreams....... Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1001227124052.2906B-100000@sparcy.geneva.edu>

    hey again, the post about acoustic dreams made me think about this: every time anyone posts anything about boots, they are always looking to give a copy away for a trade. well, not all of us are fortunate enough to have boots to trade. there's always the option of trading for a copy of a rare lp. or there's the option of trading a copy of a boot (such as acoustic dreams) for cold hard cash. this is sometimes the only way those of us less fortunate can experience such wonderful things. if there's anyone on this list that has a high-quality copy of that memorable fanclub show in rotterdam that would be willing to *sell* a copy to a fellow dt junkie, that would be one hell of a way to bring in my new year. private email response would be preferable. thanks a lot.

    -ryften

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    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 13:35:32 -0600 From: "Rachel Goldenberg" <wisha@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: new email Message-ID: <F9C9EBCDCDBD4D11EA810005B8CC32B3@wisha.dreamtheater.zzn.com>

    Hi. I can't just post a message saying that I killed my li.net account and you should please write to me at this dreamtheater.zzn.com address, so I'll tell you how Dream Theater was played at my work holiday party. It wasn't in the main party room, but one guy who loves metal music was tired of the music played so he played one of the two Dream Theater songs he likes on the other side of the office. Gotta start somewhere. Happy holidays. -Rachel

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    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:47:40 -0600 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: HaHa Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D10E2@ISDCRE00>

    That's one of the funniest "DT Content" messages I've ever seen....... classic !

    JM

    > -----Original Message----- > From: Zartan4@cs.com [SMTP:Zartan4@cs.com] > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 6:41 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5709 > > > fricks' post, although highly disturbing, was one of the funniest things > ive > seen or read or heard or whatever for a long time. DT plug: i had > something > to say about our favorite band but forgot. thanks. out.

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    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 15:25:51 -0500 From: bduester@avana.net To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Atlanta, GA - Music Midtown Festival Message-ID: <200012272025.PAA24220@bingo.avana.net>

    OK!

    Here's an idea to have Dream Theater play in the states at a festival and promote themselves.

    MUSIC MIDTOWN FESTIVAL in Atlanta, GA. May 4, 5 and 6.

    They have ALL TYPES of music and Dream Theater would be awesome to play there. Just ask Mr. Cashman and Mr. Carter - I think they'll agree with me.

    There is actually a Performer Application on the web site - http://www.musicmidtown.com. If someone could forward that link to Mike or someone in the band - I think we could see them playing in Atlanta.

    THANKS!

    Bruce

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    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 13:57:21 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Upcoming Fates Warning/Savatage Tour?? Message-ID: <200012272157.NAA05262@gms.gmsnet.com>

    Ahh.. memories of 1994 or something like that when they both went on tour... it was quite a show.

    Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., MTeiper@aol.com thus begged: > >Hi gang - > >I just heard a rumor from a friend of mine (who heard through a guy he works >with) about an upcoming Fates Warning/Savatage tour, and the only thing I can >find on the net about it is on the official FW webpage >(http://www.fateswarning.com): > >"A close source has stated that there may be a possiblity of a Fates >Warning/Savatage tour in 2001" > >Does anyone have any more info than this, or at least know where to find >additional info? As of right now, there's nothing on http://www.savatage.com >or Mike Kizer's Ivory Gate website. > >That tour would KICK ASS, although like many of you, I was extremely >disappointed by the Pitrelli and Stevens 'Tage departures. I'm hopeful that >their replacements will be at least similar in style and sound. > >Laterz... Matt T. > >NP: In Flames "Colony"

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    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 18:26:41 -0500 From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com> To: Dream Theater mailing list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: acos from last leg of 2000 tour Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20001227182547.00a0e250@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>

    I downloaded off of napster a mp3 of acos from the late 2000 tour, and the sound quality is iffy. Does anybody have the song, from Roseland, maritime hall or any other of the summer tour and can tell me where to get it? I would love to have it, as I remember it rocked when they played it at roseland

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    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 19:33:05 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: acos from last leg of 2000 tour Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0012271931470.57318-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>

    On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Damon Fibraio wrote:

    > I downloaded off of napster a mp3 of acos from the late 2000 tour, and > the sound quality is iffy. Does anybody have the song, from Roseland, > maritime hall or any other of the summer tour and can tell me where to > get it? I would love to have it, as I remember it rocked when they > played it at roseland

    There are people who have it at Roseland ("Please don't go!!!"), but I would wager that none of them are willing to give it up (a certain Boston- based bootleg website owner won't give it up to me no matter how much I promise him sexual favors) since it's without a doubt going on the DVD.

    Too bad, too; I REALLY want a boot of that song. :)

    ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- Psychiatrists say that 1 out of 4 people are mentally ill. Check three friends. If they're OK, you're it. -------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 19:52:28 -0500 From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: acos from last leg of 2000 tour Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20001227195133.009f5ec0@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>

    OK, here's where I flip into sympathy mode.

    I am totally fucking blind here, people. Why am I going to own a DVD player? For the picture quality? I just want the song. Damnit. Hell, if they just release the audio from the DVDE, I would buy it, but they won't. I am not buying a dVD player to get half of the experience of one DVD. That's idiotic. At 07:46 PM 12/27/2000, you wrote:

    >On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Damon Fibraio wrote: > > > I downloaded off of napster a mp3 of acos from the late 2000 tour, and > > the sound quality is iffy. Does anybody have the song, from Roseland, > > maritime hall or any other of the summer tour and can tell me where to > > get it? I would love to have it, as I remember it rocked when they > > played it at roseland > >There are people who have it at Roseland ("Please don't go!!!"), but I >would wager that none of them are willing to give it up (a certain Boston- >based bootleg website owner won't give it up to me no matter how much I >promise him sexual favors) since it's without a doubt going on the DVD. > >Too bad, too; I REALLY want a boot of that song. :) > >------------------------------------------------- >Andrew Coutermarsh >a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu >http://cout.dhs.org/ >Cloak on IRC >ICQ: 2513441 >------------------------------------------------- >Psychiatrists say that 1 out of 4 people are >mentally ill. Check three friends. If they're OK, >you're it. >-------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 11:59:00 +1100 From: "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: The 'Tage Message-ID: <001b01c07069$5de464e0$bf4436cb@PaulTadday>

    I personally loved Hall Of The Mountain King from the first day that I heard it way back in '87. That album brings back some great teenage memories for me. Sirens and Dungeons I thought were pretty good too considering the years that they were released.

    Fight For The Rock and Power Of The Night were pretty average at best. Gutter Ballet was awesome, a return to the magic that I considered 'Tage to be reknowned for. Streets to me sucked the big one so bad that I completely lost interest after that, until of course I actually heard the title track of Edge Of Thorns... This band was re-born!!

    Handful Of Rain was a huge sounding disc too and even though Criss was gone and Jon was only just sort of hanging in there, I still loved the style that 'Tage was belting out. Dead Winter Dead... Absolutely awesome!! Wake Of Magellan... Holy cow!!!! But now... Hmmm... the jury is gonna be out for some time methinks.

    This band have progressed so much over the last 7 years or so that I have a feeling that this album may actually re-gress. I hope not but I'm not holding my breath either. To me it was Zakk that breathed fresh life into this band and so now the future of 'YTage is uncertain in my eyes.

    My 0.24 Aussie cents worth... Our dollar sure ain't worth much these days!! ;)

    Paul.

    > > "it's pretty much back to the Mountain > >King days." Hmmmm... > > Just as long as it's not "back to Fight for the Rock" days!!!! > > Trevor >

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