YTSEJAM digest 5527

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Date: Thu Jun 29 2000 - 18:37:54 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 5527

    Today's Topics:

      1) David Hassellhoff
     by "Webmaster Ytsejam.com" <webmaster@ytsejam.com>
      2) re: Knight rider
     by psulliv1@caregroup.harvard.edu
      3) Re: Anthrax, Megdaeth and Motley/80's TV
     by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
      4) Sweedish
     by "Webmaster Ytsejam.com" <webmaster@ytsejam.com>
      5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5526
     by Jeremy Hallum <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu>
      6) Re: Sweedish
     by Brian D Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
      7) More on physical geniuses, U Totem, some other randomness
     by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
      8) Various sheot
     by "Tony De Laender" <progeny@village.uunet.be>
      9) Re: Kaniggit Rider
     by Fett2002@aol.com
     10) Re: Knight Rider, Porg
     by "A_Change Of_Seasons" <sacredjade@hotmail.com>
     11) Re: Napster Theater
     by Fett2002@aol.com
     12) Vanishing Cream
     by "Michael G. Benoit" <michael.g.benoit@worldnet.att.net>
     13) digital ruin
     by Jared Emery <Jared@fourwinds-trading.com>
     14) Mind Control
     by "Charlie Korch" <ckorch@hotmail.com>
     15) RE: Vanishing Cream
     by David Dixon <dixon@iisweb.com>
     16) Re: We All Need Some Light
     by Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
     17) Re: Physical Genius
     by eckie@asu.edu
     18) ROFLMAO, a repost!
     by "Tibor Varady 2.0" <lawinen@freemail.hu>
     19) Re:DT Covering "Comfortably Numb"
     by EvoReaper@aol.com
     20) Re: More On Knight Rider
     by Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
     21) Re: Vanishing Cream
     by Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>

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    Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:09:44 -0700 (PDT)
    From: "Webmaster Ytsejam.com" <webmaster@ytsejam.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: David Hassellhoff
    Message-ID: <20000629170944.696303E47@sitemail.everyone.net>

    >Why does 50 percent of the jam have to be about this man?

    >Kurt

    -Yeah, let's make ir 75%

    -Koggie

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    Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:04:18 -0400
    From: psulliv1@caregroup.harvard.edu
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: re: Knight rider
    Message-ID: <22992A14C66AD311AC1A00508B0FB78A011306E1@sr12oriole.caregroup.harvard.edu>

    <<<<<
    Dude, it was K.A.R.R.! And just as K.I.T.T. was an acronym
    for something, so was K.A.R.R. Does anyone besides me
    remember? (I have no life.)
    >>>>>

    You have no life? I know that K.A.R.R. stood for Knight Automated Roving (or
    Roaming) Robot, and K.I.T.T. stood for Knight Industries Two Thousand.

    *Now* who has no life?? :-)

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    Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:19:34 -0500
    From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Anthrax, Megdaeth and Motley/80's TV
    Message-ID: <20000629.121957.-101495.1.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>

    > Is anything going to the Megadeth/Anthrax show at <snip>

    >Good Lord - did I say "anything"??? Make that "anyone" or "anybody"...
    :)

    HAHAH that was a good laugh I needed. I am going to the New Orleans show,
    so don't ruin anything. :)

    Since 80's nostalgia has swept over the jam like a large broom, I know
    this may sem gay to you guys, but was anyone here into MAcgyver. About
    8th grade I discovered the reruns, and I was addicted to it till I had
    seen each one 4 times. I used to love the dukes of Hazzard, I had the
    figures and the car. :)
    Umm...CHIPS was cool, Kinght rider was ok, I used to watch it sometimes
    as a young lad.

    Kurt

    I have the distictest memory of when the my dad would tell me the Dukes
    of Hazzard was coming on, I would run to the TV and YELL. THE DUKES THE
    DUKES!!!!!!!

    "damn I need a new signature now"
    me after reading ytsejam 5456

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    Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:21:21 -0700 (PDT)
    From: "Webmaster Ytsejam.com" <webmaster@ytsejam.com>
    To: Ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Sweedish
    Message-ID: <20000629172121.07C78E0A9@sitemail.everyone.net>

    >Hockey aside, Sweden is more known for good massages and tall, blonde,
    >leggy women.

                   Don't forget Swedish Meatballs! And Swedish Fish!!!

    -and the Tom Green song Sweedish(Bum Bum Song)

    -Koggie

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    Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:20:40 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Jeremy Hallum <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5526
    Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0006291314410.11443-100000@bu-ast.bu.edu>

    > From: "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
    > Subject: Knight Rider, Porg
    >
    > > Definition of "porg?"
    > >
    > > The OTHER white music.
    >
    > THAT was good. :)
    >
    > Steve Z

    Silly me, I thought Porg was Korg's evil twin brother, who spreads evil
    by using Kurzweil instead of Korg. He also drives a black sportscar
    called KARR, and looks like Jordan Rudess. Wait, does that make Korg
    Derek Sherinian? Are we going to have another Derek vs. Jordan
    flamewar? Who will win, Korg in KITT or Jordan in KARR? Find
    out! After these messages!!!!

                                    -jeremy (not touching that dial)
            

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    Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:51:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Brian D Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Sweedish Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.20.0006291250240.7801-100000@garnet.tc.umn.edu>

    The one and only thing Sweden has going for it:

    The Swedish Chef!!

    'der film is ohhhkey dohhhkey!"

    name that quote and you are god. :)

    -Brian

    ps hint...life's like a movie write your own ending keep believing keep pretending we've done just what we set out to doooooooo

    --

    superhype!

    On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Webmaster Ytsejam.com wrote:

    > > >Hockey aside, Sweden is more known for good massages and tall, blonde, > >leggy women. > > Don't forget Swedish Meatballs! And Swedish Fish!!! > > > -and the Tom Green song Sweedish(Bum Bum Song) > > -Koggie > > _____________________________________________________________ > This email originated from http://www.ytsejam.com - Free YourName@Ytsejam.com email addresses, 6MB of Storage and no limit on file attachments. >

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    Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:13:12 -0400 From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: More on physical geniuses, U Totem, some other randomness Message-ID: <20000629141312.A8603@optical.mindstorm.com>

    On 2000-06-29 at 09:51 -0700, ytsejam@torchsong.com <ytsejam@torchsong.com> truly believed:

    > Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:32:22 -0500 > From: "Christopher W. Ptacek" <someone@digitalrodent.com> > Subject: That article D-Man pointed us to > > Thanks a lot Mr. Merlo. That was a pretty interesting read.

    Hey, just trying to help.

    > I've done a lot of reading on this (I recommended a few books several months > ago... those of you who have read them can probably see where I'm coming > from)

    I don't remember seeing your list, but I imagine that JP's favorite book, "The Inner Game of Music" was on the list? I try to read through it a week or two before I hit a stage or a recording studio.

    > and it really seems that if one can work with one's intuition and > confidence (in knowing that you HAVE prepared enough, or that you already > have what it takes to do something new) then one can pretty much do > anything.

    That's essentially the Reader's Digest version of the book. It's about getting out of your own way while playing, and understanding your own capabilities while minimizing your limitations.

    It amazes me how much of a roadblock the mind can be to making music well. I encounter these problems almost every time I play. "Oh, crap, that fast part's coming up, and I'm going to borq it." That article (the one I posted about) was quite inspirational to me, from a "you know you can do it, so do it" point of view. Glad to see someone getting something out of it. (Somehow, I knew it would be Mads, or Bafu, or Eckie, or one of you Shredis.)

    > I made sight reading hard. Kids can do it in 4th grade, without any > problems. I made it hard for myself by believing that it's very difficult.

    That reminds me of little kids learning how to swim, who simply don't know what drowning is, so they don't have that fear of life-threatening failure.

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    > Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:34:54 -0400 > From: Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com> > Subject: It's a bird, it's a plane. > > I like sounding pretentious. That way, people know that I'm better than > they are. :-)

    Dan, is it OK with you if I use this quote every, say, four hours or so? :)

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    > Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:46:01 -0400 > From: "Herbert, Jason" <jherbert@biccgeneral.com> > Subject: RE: Possession > > (The voice of KITT was supplied by the guy that played Mr. Feeney > (sp?) on Boy Meets World.)

    Oh yeah! God, you have *no* idea how much time I've spent trying to figure out why I knew that guy.

    Indication #1 of weak writing: When the main characters graduate from their school, multiple faculty and administration magically have new jobs at the new school.

    Indication #2 of weak writing: One of the main character's names is "Topanga."

    Good gravy, I'm glad that show's off the air. "Boy Meets World"? How about "Wonder Years 2"?

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    > Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:17:30 -0400 (EDT) > From: Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org> > Subject: Z-man; etc. > > > Then alternative became mainstream > and now DC101 and HFS share the same limited playlist. It's rather > disheartening to see the demise of a once vibrant station.

    Preach on, Brother Paul. Once upon a time, there were four great rock radio stations in NYC/LI. The best of all was 103.5 WAPP (Anyone remember this one? Keegan?). I still twitch a little and cry for Mommy when I recall that Sunday morning in eighth grade, when I turned on 103.5 and heard dance music, where once there was Rush and Van Halen.

    For years after that, though, we could rely on 92.3 WXRK ("K-Rock") for good classic rock, and 102.3 WBAB and 102.7 WNEW for newer rock (I remember cranking it when the Replacements would come on).

    In the winter of '93 or '94 or so, NYC got a new radion station. 104.3 WAXQ ("Q 104.3"). Holy crap. All heavy music, mostly newer. DT, Skid Row, Metallica, Guns N Roses, etc. Amazing.

    Of course, it all started going downhill from there. If I remember correctly, K-Rock was the first to fall, and now all they play is Korn, Korn clones, and randomly a song from one of Metallica's first four albums. Q went to the classic rock format, and I believe they now own 20 CDs, and 15 of them are Skynyrd. And WNEW has gone all talk during the week. I'm left with BAB, which doesn't have a very good signal... and my tape deck.

    My next car *will* have a CD player.

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    > Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:37:18 -0500 > From: "Dan McCormack" <demccor@clemson.edu> > Subject: Re: Napster Theater > > stupid frat boys (no offense intended to any frat boys on the list - > well ok yeah, offense intended :). moo.

    hahahahah :) Anyone else remember that first day at college that you saw all the signs for "Rush", only to find out it was a frat thing?

    "No, it's not about the band. It's about joing I Tappa Keg." "Oh, then I'm not interested." "Why not, dude?" "Look, I'll buy concert tickets, but I won't buy friends."

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    > Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:59:02 -0400 > From: Jens Johansson <jens@panix.com> > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5520 > > ['art rock' issues] > > I personally can really recommend a record with a project called "U > TOTEM". It is one of my favorite CDs. Perhaps I would call it > updated art rock, with a sizable pinch of orchestral-70s-Zappa > flavor, with sort of 80s-90s production values, more 'complex/tonal' > than 'random/noisy'. Vocals, and electric and acoustic instruments > in a balanced mix. Interesting compositions. Very well > played. FWIW..

    Jens, in my mind, for some reason, I have U Totem on the same level as Thinking Plague. If you've heard any TP, can you make a comparison for me? If it's as musical as you say, I'll probably eat it up.

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    > Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:13:15 -0700 > From: David Dixon <dixon@iisweb.com> > Subject: Megadeth/Anthrax in Phoenix tonight > > Is anything going to the Megadeth/Anthrax show at Blockbuster Desert Sky > Pavilion in Phoenix tonight? Well, I guess TECHNICALLY it's a Motley Crue > show, but I'm sure as hell leaving after Megadeth... :)

    Oh! Are they coming to NY? I'd sell my left nut to see those two together! (And I'd probably leave before Crue, too. :)

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    > Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:43:23 -0400 > From: WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu> > Subject: Re: Napster Theater > > I also dislike: people that hit the brakes just as they're about to take > their car up a hill. Why?!

    Because they're stupid.

    Lately, I dislike anyone that's got a driver's license. Now that I started commuting every day on the infamous LIE, I've almost bought it about five times.

    -d NP: Philharmonie/Le Dermier Mot

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    Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:24:05 +0200 From: "Tony De Laender" <progeny@village.uunet.be> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Various sheot Message-ID: <002501bfe1f7$dd9ba500$fd02bed4@be027612>

    Brian said: > It'd be nice if everybody was so up on every band that we could toss out > the whole concept of music labeling, if only to stop the endless "what is > prog?" cycle on the Dream Theater mailing lists. The reality of it is, > though, that there are just too many bands in this great world of ours to > NOT divide them up into easy to remember groups. > > Categories : use them, don't abuse them.

    Very nicely put. And I garee on the Ivory Tower disc, though they don't sound like that much of a DT clone on their second.

    KorgX3 came up with the ideal solution. NOT: > Here's an idea I think we can flesh out. Why don't we call it "butt > rock." Considering that most of the teenage, "progressive" > music-listening, barbecue-eating bastards call it that already, it would > cause alot less confusion and make us sound that much less pretentious. > What d'ya think? :)

    Sure, but then all the gigs should take place at "The Blue Oyster". Anyone for a tango? :-)

    Kurt asked: > Why does 50 percent of the jam have to be about this man?

    Surely you didn't think we'd be talking about you, did you? :-)

    prog 'em, -- Tony De Laender Editor, Progeny Webzine

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    Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:42:16 EDT From: Fett2002@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Kaniggit Rider Message-ID: <4a.7744eeb.268cf288@aol.com>

    In a message dated 6/29/00 12:48:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:

    << > Hey, remember "Carr"??? He was the evil version of Kitt!!! > -mike C. Steve Z: >Dude, it was K.A.R.R.! And just as K.I.T.T. was an acronym >for something, so was K.A.R.R. Does anyone besides me >remember? (I have no life.) >>

    Oops, thanks for the correction. Well, I got the name right, if not the spelling! And remember the last season when they souped KITT up so that it (he?) had these side thrusters on it with little wings? -mike C.

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    Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:47:24 CDT From: "A_Change Of_Seasons" <sacredjade@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Knight Rider, Porg Message-ID: <20000629184724.98164.qmail@hotmail.com>

    >>Dude, it was K.A.R.R.! And just as K.I.T.T. was an acronym >>for something, so was K.A.R.R. Does anyone besides me >>remember? (I have no life.)

    KARR - Knight Automated Roving Robot KITT - Knight Industries Two-Thousand

    I remember them... does remembering make me nostalgic or socially-challenged?

    sacrejade

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    Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:50:18 EDT From: Fett2002@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Napster Theater Message-ID: <29.725766b.268cf46a@aol.com>

    In a message dated 6/29/00 12:48:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:

    << I've spent quite some time on Napster- I only download rare and live material- and I've discovered a few funny things accredited to our favorite band:

    Yeah, there's tons of crap like that out there. It's happens with a lot of bands. It's pretty rediculous really. > -A song called "Vanishing cream" ( I am not making this up!)

    This is probably a song that was done in 1996 by a band called The Hunger. I think that a lot of people thought it was Metallica when it first came out due to the singer's voice sounding a bit like Hetfield's. I don't much care for the song, myself. >-A live version of "Comfortably numb" that sounds like it was done by Pink >Floyd; I know that DT has covered "Hey You" but have they ever covered >"Comfortably numb"? I would doubt it.

    > -A version of "Mission impossible" that's accredited to Dream Theater and >Joe Satriani(!)

    I think this is for real if I'm not mistaken. Taken from some clinic or videotape or something? I don't remember Satriani on there before though but I sould be mistaken. >-But the funniest so far is the following currently available on Napster: >"Mission impossible 2 theme by Dream Theater"(3:27 min) >It seems that someone took the track by Tool on the soundtrack of MI:2 >and labeled it as a DT song and then put it on Napster and hence spread it >around the world. >>

    I think you'e referring to the Limp Bizkit version of the MI theme on that soundtrack? Tool isn't on there.

    -mike C.

    NP: Dream Theater - Kiss Me Deadly live cover mp3 from Napster.....JK!

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    Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:18:17 -0400 From: "Michael G. Benoit" <michael.g.benoit@worldnet.att.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Vanishing Cream Message-ID: <395BA0F9.8943936E@worldnet.att.net>

    yeah yeah. vanishing cream is a real good song. i've never heard anything else by the hunger tho. wonder how they are? hmmm.... i always thought this song had an almost "progressive" (:D) feel to it.

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    Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:32:51 -0600 From: Jared Emery <Jared@fourwinds-trading.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: digital ruin Message-ID: <395BA463.F96EBDE0@fourwinds-trading.com>

    I just got these guys cd " Dwelling in the out"....pretty cool. All DT heads shoudl like it, good hooks, and not much shredding:(, but a good album with kevmoi like keyboard parts( almost as if matheos wrote the parts)...go check it out... Jared

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    Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:12:36 GMT From: "Charlie Korch" <ckorch@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Mind Control Message-ID: <20000629201237.43460.qmail@hotmail.com>

    For those of you that are interested, I have placed Dream Theater's Mind Control on eBay for $9.99.

    I don't mean to bother anyone, I just kow there are a lot of you out there that are looking for this two CD set.

    If interested, the auction is at http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370348569

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    Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:46:02 -0700 From: David Dixon <dixon@iisweb.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Vanishing Cream Message-ID: <A65ADB6BE999D3118F650008C7E6175202A183DA@MESSAGING>

    > yeah yeah. vanishing cream is a real good song. i've never heard > anything else by the hunger tho. wonder how they are? hmmm.... i always > thought this song had an almost "progressive" (:D) feel to it.

    The Hunger are more "industrial" than "progressive", but since those two words don't seem to mean much anymore, I'll try to explain better... :)

    Now I think of them as a more melodic, heavier Nine Inch Nails ("Broken" era). On "Devil Thumbs a Ride" (their first album), which included "Vanishing Cream", they were far less melodic, and the songwriting was a bit lacking. Their latest, "Cinematic Superthug", is a far better album, but none of the songs come close to "Vanishing Cream", which is simply a kick-ass tune. There are some very good songs, many of which rival VC, but not quite. I'd definitely recommend either album, however.

    My 3 yen... :)

    David Dixon MCSD, MCDBA, MCSE Integrated Information Systems, Inc. dixon@iisweb.com

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    Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 03:38:19 +0300 From: Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: We All Need Some Light Message-ID: <395A9A7B.B8C459FB@yahoo.com>

    "Sasha C." wrote: > > >But, it's not Roine who sings on that one, it's a complete Neal tune, he > sure as > >hell sings it too =) > > Alternative mix? From the Limited Edition? 2nd disc, track 2? Hellooo?!? > Unless Neal has a voice range like Daniel Gildenlow [Pain of Salvation], > meaning that he can sing very low and very high that you'd think it's 2 > different persons singing, I'm wrong... But I think I'm not... Roine is > singing on the other version. >

    Yup, sorry, my bad, my eyes seemed to have left out the alt. mix part of the original post.

    - Rock

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    Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:26:55 -0700 (MST) From: eckie@asu.edu To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Physical Genius Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1000629135617.19196A-100000@general4.asu.edu>

    Thanks D-Man for the article, it was really an interesting read...I too have been in the dungeons of ASU's libraries trying to figure out what exactly "genius" constitutes. It seems to be a mixture of this magical attachment to some vocation, extraordinary coordination, imagination, and I think the biggest part of the pie is attitude. I've been training in the shredi arts for almost 5 years now, and not a single completed song to my writing credit, and for the life of me I couldn't figure out why that was. I understand the breakdown of songs, the structure of verses, chori, and such, but I just can't sit down and write one to my own satisfaction.

    Unfortunately, the world of music as a creative endeavor, isn't quite as cut and dry as the worlds of sports and brain surgery (what good does a baseball being hit 500 feet do if it's a foul, and I don't think you can get away with tying carteroid arteries up as a bloody boe tie and win a nobel prize for inventing a new way to kill people...then again...), it falls into that amorphic fog with that "art" stuff nobody can quite get a hold of either.

    But I'm mixing physical genius with intellectual genius there, I think. Then again, what the hell is genius? Who is more deserving of the title, Michealangelo for physically being able to excel at sculpturing human forms in marble blocks more than his peers, or Picasso, for his foresight into abstraction and being able to flip the entire perception of "art" on its head? Another thing that has to be calculated into the equation is the assist by those people surrounding our accredited geniuses, be it their parents, some teacher who appreciated their student more than most, or somebody who just saw something others didn't.

    Picasso had his parents and hung around Brach. Bach was practically born into his position, as was Frank Lloyd Wright, and as that article stated, Wayne Gretzky, they pretty much knew what they wanted to focus on, they had some tie to their vocations from the very start.

    So what's up with the rest of us? Is "genius" a relative word itself? I was hoping it wasn't, I sorta like the elite exclusive nature of the title, if there's any one word that will make you feel like you're teetering on top of the world's largest pedestal, that's it.

    Are the guys in Dream Theater geniuses? Or are they a group of musicians who love what they do and do what it takes to excel, whatever that may be? Did I just define genius? How high is up? Where does up get his shit? How much does up's shit cost?

    I'm overklempt! Talk amongst yourselves, I'll give you a topic: Alternative music is neither alternative or music, discuss!

    ~Eckiecoles ASU Architecture/Studio Art Shredi Knight

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    Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:32:10 +0200 From: "Tibor Varady 2.0" <lawinen@freemail.hu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: ROFLMAO, a repost! Message-ID: <200006292131.XAA32241@altair.ceu.hu>

    Kurt wrote, and I am still laughing! Thats an A+! Tibor

    > > Hahah I watched this on CNN. Its funny how they cover breaking news, if > someone farts they have to have poeple comment on it in 10 different > locations. > > "Elian has crapped in his pants. Lets send you first to Miami for > reaction" > > MIAMI > "reaction here is that the family thinks they could clean him up better > than he could ever be cleaned in Cuba" lets go now to our washington > bureau. > > WASHINGTON > "uh...the government has yet to release a statement" we have on the phone > our reporter in cuba" > > CUBA > "Crowds are cheering, riots breaking out, Elian has done what every cuban > has wanted him to do, which is crap on the USA" > > this is then proceeded by the silly questions on Talk back live. After > that they schedule a pool of ANALysts to talk about it on Larry King > > I hate the media. > > Kurt > god bless the USA

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    Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:41:04 EDT From: EvoReaper@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re:DT Covering "Comfortably Numb" Message-ID: <cb.723d167.268d1c70@aol.com>

    I downloaded this a while ago as well, it's the Pulse version of "Comfortably Numb". I don't know why the hell someone would call it DT. I haven't heard of DT covering "Comfortably Numb", but I'd LOVE to hear em' do it!

    As for "Vanishing Cream", there is a band called The Hunger that has a song called "Vanishing Cream", do you remember what any of the words were? The verse goes something like:

    "Who fills the sky, and who answers, when I cry..."

    lots of keyboards and a walking bassline during the verse, then a kick ass chorus

    "I feel so good today It's hard to stay away A hunter and his prey Today will be the day

    Is this real, is it you Are you what I see Is it him, am I good Or just vanishing cream..."

    That's from memory, and I haven't heard the song in about a year, so it could be wrong...good tune though...

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    Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:25:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: More On Knight Rider Message-ID: <20000629222550.23575.qmail@web509.mail.yahoo.com>

    > Oops, thanks for the correction. Well, I got the > name right, if not the > spelling! And remember the last season when they > souped KITT up so that it > (he?) had these side thrusters on it with little > wings?

    I remember that. Yeesh, talk about impractical. KITT would've gone SOOO much faster had he remained aerodynamic.

    I never understood why Michael always insist on driving on when he had to drive KITT on long road trips. Had it been me, I would've told KITT to drive himself while I curled up in the backseat and took a nap.

    And what a car!! Had a TV, a VCR, a smoke screen, an oil slick, a thing that made it drive on two wheels, turbo boost, passive laser restraint (whaaa?), and some other cool shee-yit. KITT could outrun cops ya know. I'd probably use that ability fairly often.

    ===== *Trent

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    Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:28:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Vanishing Cream Message-ID: <20000629222805.9286.qmail@web514.mail.yahoo.com>

    > yeah yeah. vanishing cream is a real good song. i've > never heard > anything else by the hunger tho. wonder how they > are? hmmm.... i always > thought this song had an almost "progressive" (:D) > feel to it.

    Are the Hunger Houston natives? I only ask b/c they seem to spend a lot of time here. Hm.

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