YTSEJAM digest 6028

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Date: Wed Nov 21 2001 - 20:25:49 EST

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: Power Metal???
     by WB Henderson <wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu>
      2) power metal
     by "Lawrence" <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
      3) own a piece of kip
     by "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@home.com>

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    Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:14:35 -0500 (EST)
    From: WB Henderson <wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: Power Metal???
    Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.40.0111202103380.5571-100000@boole.millersville.edu>

    Thorin wrote:
    > However, since when have the bands you mentioned ever
    > been power metal??? Power-Metal is characteristic of very heavy
    > distortion, double bass, very groove oriented metal with the melody (if
    > there is any) provided by the vocalist or cookie monster impersonator.
    > Pantera, Diecast, Diesel Machine, Machinehead, are without a doubt
    > Power-Metal.

    Actually, Alexis' power metal band picks are better fits with the most
    commonly accepted definition of power metal. This ain't necessarily that
    definition, but here's the AllMusic Guide genre write-up:

    >>
    Over the years, the term power metal has been used to describe
    everything from NWOBHM bands to hardcore-tinged thrashers like Pantera. As
    a movement, though, power metal crystallized during the mid-'90s, mostly
    as a reaction against the harshness and lack of melody in death and black
    metal. Though it sometimes incorporated the complexity of progressive
    metal, or the menace and growling vocals of death metal, power metal was
    essentially a classicist style, paying unabashed tribute to its
    influences. Its tight sense of groove was rooted in the NWOBHM and
    early-'80s Teutonic outfits like Accept; it also drew from the flashy
    technical chops and pseudo-operatic vocals of NWOBHM mainstays Judas
    Priest and Iron Maiden. Power metal was primarily (though not exclusively)
    a continental-European phenomenon, with a handful of '80s veterans
    reviving their careers, plus a number of newer bands who'd started out
    playing death metal but wanted to sound more like the music they'd grown
    up with.
    >>

    Brian

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    Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:02:11 +1100
    From: "Lawrence" <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: power metal
    Message-ID: <001501c17241$4dc3c1c0$8f63a1ca@mike>

    > I agree. Power-Metal can be monotonous but the great bands make it a
    > wonderful thing. However, since when have the bands you mentioned ever
    > been power metal??? Power-Metal is characteristic of very heavy
    > distortion, double bass, very groove oriented metal with the melody (if
    > there is any) provided by the vocalist or cookie monster impersonator.
    > Pantera, Diecast, Diesel Machine, Machinehead, are without a doubt
    > Power-Metal.
    >
    > Kamelot, Helloween, Gamma Ray, Rhapsody, Angra, and Symphony-X are all
    > awe inspiring bands that kick ass. Yet, to call them "power metal" is a
    > stretch. Almost like calling Poison "thrash metal".

    Of course this is one of those silly threads, that no doubt will get a
    squillion replies,
    most of them saying how silly it is, but I've normally heard power-metal
    used to
    describe bands more along the lines the original poster was talking about,
    although
    a lot of them are probably more 'symphonic metal' or something similar.
    I've never heard anyone call Pantera etc. power metal.
    I'm not sure what it is really, but generally I think people take it to be
    the line of
    metal stemming from Iron Maiden in particular and usually includes galloping
    drummers, plenty of melody and wailing singers in tight pants.

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    Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 05:57:51 -0800
    From: "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@home.com>
    To: "Debbie Seeger" <dseeger@voyager.net>,
    Subject: own a piece of kip
    Message-ID: <003501c17294$82c8ab80$4a63f818@sttln1.wa.home.com>

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