YTSEJAM digest 5953

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Wed Sep 05 2001 - 09:25:07 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 5953

    Today's Topics:

      1) My own Jam!!!!!!!!
     by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
      2) trade request 3/3/00
     by "Norm Jensen" <normjensen@hotmail.com>
      3) Re: trade request 3/3/00
     by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
      4) RE: trade request 3/3/00
     by "Andrew Ashmall-Liversidge" <sos@akula.com>
      5) Re: trade request 3/3/00
     by JamesAhab@aol.com
      6) Re: trade request 3/3/00
     by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Mart=EDnez <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
      7) Paul Gilbert Tune
     by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Mart=EDnez <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>

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    Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 12:11:33 -0500
    From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: My own Jam!!!!!!!!
    Message-ID: <20010904.121135.-137301.0.kurt.hampton@juno.com>

    THIS IS FUCKING COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

    On Tue, 4 Sep 2001 06:13:09 -0700 (PDT) ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
    > YTSEJAM Digest 5952
    >
    > Today's Topics:
    >
    > 1) Re: Pain of Salvation
    > by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
    >
    > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    > Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 11:28:09 -0500
    > From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
    > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    > Subject: Re: Pain of Salvation
    > Message-ID: <20010903.112810.-364075.0.kurt.hampton@juno.com>
    >
    > too bad you revived it, that band is one of my faves...Im not into
    > most
    > prog stuff. I own all the shadow gallery cd's, i bought Sym X V and
    > was
    > unimpressed......Pain of Salvation does it. Period. THey are so damn
    > original its not even funny. Pick up all their stuff. everyone.
    > Another
    > band I have been getting into more is Vanden Plas. I am having
    > problems
    > finding the 1st two cd's though :(
    >
    > NP-Vanden Plas Fiction of Sadness boot
    >
    > Kurts Trade Page:
    > www.geocities.com/kurt_labrie/Startpage.html
    > Ytsekurt on AOL IM
    > "Cmon Orlando Shake you f*ckin booty" James Labrie 3/3/00
    >
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    >
    > End of YTSEJAM Digest 5952
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    Kurts Trade Page:
    www.geocities.com/kurt_labrie/Startpage.html
    Ytsekurt on AOL IM
    "Cmon Orlando Shake you f*ckin booty" James Labrie 3/3/00

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    Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 00:10:40 +0000
    From: "Norm Jensen" <normjensen@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: trade request 3/3/00
    Message-ID: <F256AGjCl7Mx5EuSwCG00005270@hotmail.com>

    I'm not sure if this is the right forum, but I'm trying here anyway. I'm
    looking for a non-mp3 sourced copy of the Orlando 3/3/00 show. I've traded
    for this show twice and both times I received cdrs sourced from mp3 and they
    suck! Any help in getting a cdr copy would be greatly appreciated. If
    possible, I'd like to trade for a copy. I have a small amount of DT, but
    tons of RUSH and YES. Email me privately and I'll send my trading list.
    Thanks in advance!

    Norm
    normjensen@hotmail.com

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    Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 22:19:22 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: trade request 3/3/00
    Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0109042215400.87601-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>

    On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Norm Jensen wrote:

    > I'm not sure if this is the right forum, but I'm trying here anyway.
    > I'm looking for a non-mp3 sourced copy of the Orlando 3/3/00 show.
    > I've traded for this show twice and both times I received cdrs sourced
    > from mp3 and they suck! Any help in getting a cdr copy would be
    > greatly appreciated. If possible, I'd like to trade for a copy. I
    > have a small amount of DT, but tons of RUSH and YES. Email me
    > privately and I'll send my trading list. Thanks in advance!

    If you go to Lines in the Sand (http://dreamtheater.mit.edu/), you can
    download a CD-Audio version of that show. Simply click on "Media," then
    click "Next" in the upper-right-hand corner of the screen until you see
    the 3/3/00 show listed. You can download it, but it takes a while because
    of the sheer bandwidth taken by it, and you'll have to burn the SHN files
    yourself.

    I must warn you, though, that there is no true non-lossy-sourced recording
    of this show; it was recorded from a 64kbps WMA file, which was the
    highest-bandwidth streaming version of the show. Therefore, it may sound
    like it was an MP3 source, but may not actually BE one. However, if
    you're hearing blips between the tracks, that's most definitely an MP3
    source.

    -------------------------------------------------
    Andrew Coutermarsh
    a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu
    Lines in the Sand - http://dreamtheater.mit.edu/
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    Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 22:44:31 -0400
    From: "Andrew Ashmall-Liversidge" <sos@akula.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: RE: trade request 3/3/00
    Message-ID: <000001c135b4$b1cbe680$2400a8c0@sos>

    This pisses me off!!
    99.9% of people can't tell the difference between an mp3 source and an
    original.
    If they could then they wouldn't be trading 128kbps mp3s.
    Get down off your goddamn audiophilic high horses and realise that
    no-one else cares.
    If we can get a good recording of a show we're happy - we don't need to
    feed it through the knifflingping via the knockulator valve to
    appreciate the music.
    Get your dicks out of your own mouths and realise that this crap is why
    DT fans have a reputation of being trainspotting, wanking tits!@!
    Lighten Up!!

    MUSIC - isn't that the whole point?

    Looking forward to the replies....................

    SOS

                                                                    

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com] On
    > Behalf Of Andrew Coutermarsh
    > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 10:26 PM
    > To: Multiple recipients of list
    > Subject: Re: trade request 3/3/00
    >
    >
    > On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Norm Jensen wrote:
    >
    > > I'm not sure if this is the right forum, but I'm trying here anyway.
    > > I'm looking for a non-mp3 sourced copy of the Orlando 3/3/00 show.
    > > I've traded for this show twice and both times I received
    > cdrs sourced
    > > from mp3 and they suck! Any help in getting a cdr copy would be
    > > greatly appreciated. If possible, I'd like to trade for a copy. I
    > > have a small amount of DT, but tons of RUSH and YES. Email me
    > > privately and I'll send my trading list. Thanks in advance!
    >
    > If you go to Lines in the Sand
    > (http://dreamtheater.mit.edu/), you can > download a CD-Audio
    > version of that show. Simply click on "Media," then click
    > "Next" in the upper-right-hand corner of the screen until you
    > see the 3/3/00 show listed. You can download it, but it
    > takes a while because of the sheer bandwidth taken by it, and
    > you'll have to burn the SHN files yourself.
    >
    > I must warn you, though, that there is no true
    > non-lossy-sourced recording of this show; it was recorded
    > from a 64kbps WMA file, which was the highest-bandwidth
    > streaming version of the show. Therefore, it may sound like
    > it was an MP3 source, but may not actually BE one. However,
    > if you're hearing blips between the tracks, that's most
    > definitely an MP3 source.
    >
    > -------------------------------------------------
    > Andrew Coutermarsh
    > a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu
    > Lines in the Sand - http://dreamtheater.mit.edu/
    > -------------------------------------------------
    >

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    Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 23:32:01 EDT
    From: JamesAhab@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: trade request 3/3/00
    Message-ID: <3d.10d56886.28c6f6b1@aol.com>

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    In a message dated 9/4/2001 10:53:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sos@akula.com
    writes:

    >< This pisses me off!! 99.9% of people can't tell the difference between
    an mp3 source and an original. If they could then they wouldn't be trading
    128kbps mp3s. Get down off your goddamn audiophilic high horses and realise
    that no-one else cares. If we can get a good recording of a show we're happy
    - we don't need to feed it through the knifflingping via the knockulator
    valve to appreciate the music. Get your dicks out of your own mouths and
    realise that this crap is why DT fans have a reputation of being
    trainspotting, wanking tits!@! Lighten Up!! MUSIC - isn't that the whole
    point? Looking forward to the replies.................... ><

    I'm compleely ignorant when it comes to the technicalities of audio, video,
    mp3s, kilobytes per second, whatever. I have no idea. I'm not down with that.
    I usually delete any e-mail that has anything to do with it. Call me stupid.
    And, as you pointed out, I'm interested in the music, not finding the highest
    sound quality, source, whatever. Again, I have no idea.

    HOWEVER...I can tell the difference between an MP3 source and an original
    from a million miles away. It's not difficult. It's usually very noticeable.
    So your 99.9% - no matter how much of an exagerration - was way, way off.
    Again, I don't usually care, because it's the music, not the sound quality,
    that matters. However, sometimes I do care. I have a copy of Mind Control
    where the MP3 distortion (I'm sure I'm using the wrong words here) is
    atrocious. That swooshy, watery sound completely ruins it and renders it
    unlistenable.

    What was my point?

    Most of the time I don't care when they're MP3s, but sometimes it does make a
    difference, and I can always tell.

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    Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 01:50:15 -0500
    From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Mart=EDnez <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: trade request 3/3/00
    Message-ID: <001801c135d7$5dac53a0$e7aaf094@compaq.net.mx>

    Lighten up dude! you sound pissed! (no, you ARE pissed!)
    I say that i can't notice the difference between those 2, but i'm really
    curious to find out how those 2 sound via some decent speakers! However, i
    do believe some people (definetly more than the 0.01% here) CAN hear the
    difference.
    And once you hear it, and know why one is superior to the other, maybe you
    feel unconfortable hearing an MP3 that COULD be a WAV (or original source,
    that's better said). It turns into something psychological.....but that's my
    shitty theory! I don't quite know for sure!

    > Get your dicks out of your own mouths and realise that this crap is why
    > DT fans have a reputation of being trainspotting, wanking tits!@!

    ..mmhhhhh, what reputation are you talking about? i thought it was because
    of the music (y'know, those newbies to DT that say that EVERYTHING is crap
    but DT and that they have seen the light..and so on and so on.....hey! i've
    seen it more than once!)

    Hey Skadz, how many jammers are subscribed to this list actually? guess many
    dropped out because of the SpamJam, but it's pretty good now. Good work
    duder.

    Mauricio

    > Lighten Up!!

    yeah dude....

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Andrew Ashmall-Liversidge" <sos@akula.com>
    To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 9:51 PM
    Subject: RE: trade request 3/3/00

    > This pisses me off!!
    > 99.9% of people can't tell the difference between an mp3 source and an
    > original.
    > If they could then they wouldn't be trading 128kbps mp3s.
    > Get down off your goddamn audiophilic high horses and realise that
    > no-one else cares.
    > If we can get a good recording of a show we're happy - we don't need to
    > feed it through the knifflingping via the knockulator valve to
    > appreciate the music.
    > Get your dicks out of your own mouths and realise that this crap is why
    > DT fans have a reputation of being trainspotting, wanking tits!@!
    > Lighten Up!!
    >
    > MUSIC - isn't that the whole point?
    >
    > Looking forward to the replies....................
    >
    > SOS

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    Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 02:02:13 -0500
    From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Mart=EDnez <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Paul Gilbert Tune
    Message-ID: <008001c135d8$b1560fe0$e7aaf094@compaq.net.mx>

    What's up dudes & dudettes, i have a question for all of you guitar
    geeks, shred lovers, whatever....

    I wanted to know what's the name of the LAST song Paul Gilbert plays in
    his video Intense Rock II....the instrumental one with a moving
    background with the electric stairs and all that....

    if anyone has it in mp3....or mpg, let me know how can i get it!

    Mauricio

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