YTSEJAM Digest 6163
Today's Topics:
1) Re: oldtimers
by WB Henderson <wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu>
2) Re: Oldtimers
by Graham Borland <graham@moonbog.net>
3) Re: Oldtimers!!!
by <bduester@mindspring.com>
4) oldtimers untie
by "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@attbi.com>
5) Entombed
by Brian Hayden <bhayden@umn.edu>
6) Re: Oldtimers
by "Sasha C." <sasa.cabaravdic@pu.tel.hr>
7) Re:Oldtimers
by OriginalBezerk@aol.com
8) THE JAM LIVES!
by ponte@epix.net
9) More old-timers
by Sum WhiteGuy <pokgaitsai@yahoo.com>
10) Oldtimers
by "Mauricio Martinez" <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
11) Oh Come All Ye Bastards - Joyful and blah blah blah
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
12) Re: More old-timers
by Coldfire <coldie@bellatlantic.net>
13) Re: Oldtimers
by Rich <richleask@pobox.com>
14) Re: Oldtimers
by Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
15) Ok I'll bite...
by "Craig W" <woot1@onewest.net>
16) Re: Ok I'll bite...
by Coldfire <coldie@bellatlantic.net>
17) Re: Ol'timers Unite!
by "Jxrgen C. Bakken" <easy2beat@hotmail.com>
18) Re: Entombed
by WB Henderson <wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu>
19) quite a jam
by Sebastian Keil <keil.s@web.de>
20) The BafuJam
by "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@attbi.com>
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Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 13:43:13 -0500
From: WB Henderson <wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: oldtimers
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20020405133720.01ad76e0@cs.millersville.edu>
>bwahaha, you mean, arash ashouria or something like that? and his little
>brother too.
Those were the dudes that plugged Empty Tremor like there was no tomorrow,
right? I think the website was called "PROG OR DIE!!" or something along
those lines. And...it's still around, sort
of. http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1748/ Whaddya know? They
fixed the spelling of 'grunge' too - I remember it used to say "No More
Grunch."
Brian
[NP...Stinking Lizaveta -- III]
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Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 19:54:08 +0000
From: Graham Borland <graham@moonbog.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Oldtimers
Message-ID: <20020405195408.22cabe8c.graham@moonbog.net>
Now that we're all posting again, let's keep it up, eh?
:-)
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Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 14:09:42 -0500 From: <bduester@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Oldtimers!!! Message-ID: <Springmail.0994.1018033782.0.09580000@webmail.atl.earthlink.net>
HEY YO!
On since May of '95 - the year I graduated college. Now in Atlanta, GA and god know how many concerts and beers later.
How have we grown? Or have we?
Shout out - to my buddy back in PA - Dave Neff!!!
Back to under my rock....
Bruce
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Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 11:04:28 -0800 From: "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@attbi.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: oldtimers untie Message-ID: <005e01c1dcd4$b6416100$7244e40c@attbi.com>
Hey, I've been on here since fall of '96. I'm from Seattle, but was at the DC show. I heard some people yelling "BAFU", but they didn't come down the line far enough. Kez, I was the bald guy on the floor with the flashlight and sign waving to you on the balcony. I had a little sign that said "Seattle", at the end MP saw it and tried to throw me a drum head, but of course it went elsewhere...oh well.... I'm still in contact with Bafu, he lives like a hermit on some island near Seattle... Well, I'm off to see Flower Kings tomorrow night!!! Trevor
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Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 14:49:44 -0500 From: Brian Hayden <bhayden@umn.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Entombed Message-ID: <B8D36A08.1276F%bhayden@umn.edu>
I know there are at least a few people around here who are into death metal. I would highly recommend to any such perverts and undesirables a new disc: Entombed's "Morning Star."
For those of you familiar with their controversial departures over the years from strict "death metal," this work is somewhere in between, imo, "Wolverine Blues" and the earlier work. I would call it a true death metal record, with enough variation to avoid being "purist" ie another boring rehash of Possessed's "Seven Churches."
Dig it. The first three tracks are some of the best, most brutal metal I've heard in years. First time a new metal release has given me goose bumps since, probably, "Accident of Birth."
If anyone is interested, I can write up a more detailed and useful review.
-brian
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Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 23:18:17 +0200 From: "Sasha C." <sasa.cabaravdic@pu.tel.hr> To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Oldtimers Message-ID: <000401c1dce9$3864b7e0$518e1dc3@scabarav>
It was really nice to see so many names in the last few digests :-) I've been mostly lurking here since 1998 I guess... I have 1088 digests in my "Ytsejam" folder, all the ones since "we" moved to torchsong.com and that was in 1999. I used to delete posts, but I decided to keep all of them since the last server switching. Anyhow, I believe I'm the only subscribed fan from Croatia... or is there someone out there who is even more quiet than I?
Long live the 'jam!
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Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 17:10:34 EST From: OriginalBezerk@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re:Oldtimers Message-ID: <142.c5bed2b.29df7ada@aol.com>
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Well I guess I will come out of lurk mode where I have been hiding under a couple different emails since 93-94. No back to your regularly scheduled programming....
Aaron
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Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 17:27:14 -0800 From: ponte@epix.net To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: THE JAM LIVES! Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020405172005.00d98c30@in.epix.net>
Hey Coldfire.. didn't you used to live on the West Coast? Yeah that Philly show was amazing! Drove from Allentown to Philly.. then back to allentown to sleep and then drive to DC the next day to see them there. :) Now if only I went to both NYC shows too.. that would have been cool!
PS: I was on this list since ACoS. Lots of crazy memories! It's cool to see so many lurkers come to life!
CARPE DIEM!
-Ponte
PPS: At the BBKing show.. like 100 people there knew Skadz.. it was funny.. at one point someonw shouted "Who hear knows Skadz?" and like everyone cheered!
:)
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Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 15:11:41 -0800 (PST) From: Sum WhiteGuy <pokgaitsai@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: More old-timers Message-ID: <20020405231141.73576.qmail@web11507.mail.yahoo.com>
>of the first 30 people there), only one person >responded 20 min. before >the doors opened. Kez, buddy, it was good getting >SOMEONE to yell Bafu >with in line. we walked about halfway down the 4->block-long line >yelling >Bafu at the tops of our lungs, but only 1 other guy >replied. sorry >dude, >can't remember your name. where the HELL was everyone >else??!! oh >well, >that's my story, & i'm stickin' to it!!
I was in that line, about 30 people back from the guy who responded, wearing my ProgPower 2.0 shirt. I laughed, explained it to my friend, but did not reply....sorry :-)
First joined the jam in 95 a few months before the Home For the Holidays Tour (and meeting a bunch of other 'old timers' at the Fantazia Diner as we were all getting kicked out...E-Man, Hairball, etc....)
Unsubbed in early '97 due to the big ass bootleg flamewar that was sparked by the Fix for 96 boots. Resubbed in 2000 after running into D-Man at a show in Baltimore (the Ytsejam t-shirt I was wearing helped).
Nostalgia aside....and replying to COldie for a moment....I'll be at the Flower Kings show on 4/11 (primarily to see California Guitar Trio though). Cool that Jon Jens' bad will be there too...another old timer that I used to chat with on #ytsejam. Perhaps I'll wear the 1st Gen Ytse-T again :-)
Jon. mau-tze@erols.com
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Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 17:53:27 -0600 From: "Mauricio Martinez" <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Oldtimers Message-ID: <01bb01c1dcfd$1b091060$7ea8f094@compaq.net.mx>
I=B4ve been here since August '97. A fellow jammer told me about the list, and how he was making a ton of bootleg trades, and how the list was cool, and actually had some power (y=B4know...the ACoS petition...). So, the fisrt thing i did when i got into College, was to put to good use my first email address, and subscribed here, but just after writing a couple of emails to GKS, Steve Vai's fan club. They were my first emails, and i had already pissed off someone (although i still think Rich Pike's an asshole). But they were quick learning experiences that were fast applied to a mailinglist such as this one.
I'm very much a lurker....always. I post something from time to time, but i remember lots of names and threads. I remember as back as the last Bahr wars (i actually purchased "Stream of Counsciousness" off him....i, for one, was well served, but afraid nonthless!), some Bafu posts as well. And the long and intellectual-tinted posts of Shredi Chris Ptacek. He always had some interesting stuff to say, guitar-wise, at least.
I got the free demo tape for ytsejammers that Empty Tremor gave away. I bought "Scarred Records" early releases, like the DT MP3 stuff. Is Scarred still functioning? KorgX3 sent me a guitar tab via sanil-mail i asked for in the list. It was "Pavilion" by Eric Johnson. Really nice guy....i thought he played keyboards, so i never expected this from him. Partha Mudkopway (sorry for the misspelling!) sent me this horrible CD he was givin' away: Nitro's OFR. I LAUGHED my ass off when i heard, and so my buddies. A friend kinda liked it, so he has it now. And some other stuff that i can't remember now.
I unsubscribe whenever i go out for a week or so. But i've been a regular member since that time.
Mauricio
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Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 19:10:11 -0600 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Oh Come All Ye Bastards - Joyful and blah blah blah Message-ID: <3CAE4AF3.A09CFC1B@isd.net>
Phil Carter wrote: >Come on, the rest of you old bastards. We know you're out there. :)
Think Robert De Niro... "You Talkin' to me?"
All this talk about YtseJammers reuniting is giving me a warm feeling deep down in the bottom of my shorts.
It's that or the pork...
Between multiple off-road motorcycle projects, speaker building, and Ham radio buffoonery, I've been too busy to jump into all the *choke* action on the Jam. We sure could use a HOT topic. I have been an ardent lurker... I guess recently I've seen nothing I felt needed my interjection. :o)
I have three 2-stroke bike engines to finish overhauling. Two bikes that need the chassis gone through. I'm just getting underway building rear surround and center channel speaker cabinets as I'm preparing to integrate theater into my main 2-ch system. I better get off my ass and contact my local city counsel to obtain a special use permit so I can dig a huge hole and plant my new antenna tower in three cubic yards of concrete... Whew.
The bikes I hope to have completed by mid May. The speakers have no target deadline, but ambition alone is pushing the completion quickly. (I just wish I had as much money as ambition)
As for the tower.. I'm really not looking forward to all the work and headaches that are generally associated with a project of this nature. Between city counsels, FCC and FAA compliance, the manual labor that is required to raise a few thousand pounds of steel and aluminum 72 feet in the air, and the tremendous collective expense of completion, I'm having a hard time getting motivated. I figure I can bribe my 13 year old son into digging the bulk of the hole. I have the tower, rotor, and most of the antennas already. Oh yeah, I have to move my central Air condenser to accommodate the tower unless I wish to plant it right on front of the kitchen window. Something tells me the Warden may have some objections to plan "B" :o( All in all it's going to be a pain in the ass, but I can't keep dragging my feet because It's becoming a hassle moving tower and antenna parts around trying to figure out where we can park vehicles in foul weather. Have I mentioned we have two garages? One of them completely occupied with motorcycle and woodworking projects; The other one just has enough room to squeeze her car in with careful navigation. My van has spent this unusually mild Minnesota winter outdoors. <sigh>
So that is what this "Old Ytse-Bastard" has been doing.
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" --Will Rogers
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Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 20:21:19 -0500 From: Coldfire <coldie@bellatlantic.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: More old-timers Message-ID: <3CAE4D8F.CB5D54EC@bellatlantic.net>
Sum WhiteGuy wrote: >
> > Nostalgia aside....and replying to COldie for a > moment....I'll be at the Flower Kings show on 4/11 > (primarily to see California Guitar Trio though). > Cool that Jon Jens' bad will be there too...another > old timer that I used to chat with on #ytsejam. > Perhaps I'll wear the 1st Gen Ytse-T again :-) > > Jon. > mau-tze@erols.com >
AWESOME! You'll get to meet the Lego Princess. I'm taking her as a belated 9th Birthday gift! Gee? Think I should wear my SG shirt? ;) Then you can find me again ;)
See ya next Thursday and another other Local Jammer who will be there. Just look for this adorable 9yr old and her mom will be not far away.
Coldfire
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Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 13:50:02 +1000 From: Rich <richleask@pobox.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Oldtimers Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020406133225.00a8b860@pop.ozemail.com.au>
Well, I thought that perhaps this was as good as moment as any to emerge from the unknown darkness and brave the flames and superior knowledge that abounds this digest. I have been reading this for maybe a year (call me virgin if thou wilst), but until now have not managed to summon the courage to exit lurk mode (it was rather comfortable there).
I must say there are a surprising number of you Jammers out there, and this new thread has shown how long some of you have been here, many from long before I had even heard of MFB. It is good to read all the set lists that get posted up here, it's as close as I am likely to get to seeing them live. At least while I continue to live in Australia.
It becomes obvious to me at this point, that this post would probably have worked much better if I had something useful or controversial to say. How about, to all those arguing about which words are actually words and which are not: My tomandest confibularities to your imanidered bymandigies, but a word is a word if one thinks it is a word.
Adios
Ogder Rash
Purveyor of Fine Figgins and Famous WWII Flying Ace
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Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 05:49:43 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Oldtimers Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.33.0204060546400.12912-100000@sdf.lonestar.org>
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Graham Borland wrote:
> Now that we're all posting again, let's keep it up, eh?
preach it brother borland, preach it.... :)
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Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 23:23:27 -0700 From: "Craig W" <woot1@onewest.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Ok I'll bite... Message-ID: <001101c1dd33$a3018160$76613cc6@admin>
Hey y'all. I've been on here since just after the ACos petition so I guess that was about '95. #1016, IIRC. Although I was once #10 on the mfp list (those were the days) I have since been lurking for several years. My biggest contibution was probably the sweet version of Eve that KorgX3 and I recorded together in my living room. I don't even think I have a copy of that anymore (Does anybody else?). So anywho, DT rules and such. I'll even pull the old .sig out of the archives for old time's sake. Peace.
It rolls down stairs alone or in pairs, runs over your neighbor's foot. It's great for a snack and fits on your back its woot! woot! woot!
woot! from Blammo.
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Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 01:42:02 -0500 From: Coldfire <coldie@bellatlantic.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Ok I'll bite... Message-ID: <3CAE98B9.D1653D73@bellatlantic.net>
w00t!!!!!!!! He's ALIVE!!!!!!
AWesome...damn have not seen you post in like forever!
Damn thise Ytsefamily reunion is rockin now!
Good to see ya postin again :))))
Coldfire
Craig W wrote: > > Hey y'all. I've been on here since just after the ACos petition so I guess > that was about '95. #1016, IIRC. Although I was once #10 on the mfp list > (those were the days) I have since been lurking for several years. My > biggest contibution was probably the sweet version of Eve that KorgX3 and I > recorded together in my living room. I don't even think I have a copy of > that anymore (Does anybody else?). So anywho, DT rules and such. I'll even > pull the old .sig out of the archives for old time's sake. Peace. > > It rolls down stairs alone or in pairs, > runs over your neighbor's foot. > It's great for a snack and fits on your back > its woot! woot! woot! > > woot! from Blammo.
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Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 07:11:55 +0000 From: "Jxrgen C. Bakken" <easy2beat@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Ol'timers Unite! Message-ID: <F32GPmgqwzTJp5lkS0t00005d11@hotmail.com>
Yeah, it's time for my Bi-annual post again, or something like that. Never been much of a poster, but I'm doing a bang-up job, on the urking side. Funny, these days looking foreward too the 20k digest, and imagine my surprise, when the last digest turned in at 35. I remember a time when 5-10 of those heavy digests came in. Back when it was time-consuming just to read dis friggin' thing. But thanks to this list, my turning into prog came about a lot sooner than, what could have been. I mean, Spock's Beard, Marillion(Kayleigh?, nah that ain't prog!), Shadow Gallery, Magellan, LTE, Platypus, Fates Warning, and lets not forget, Yes, RUSH, ol' Genesis ELP and the list goes on. And lets not forget Explorers Club - Age of Impact. I've much to be greatfull for beeing here, picking up hints and tips. AoI, means I've must have been here since early 98 or late 97.
I remember the Derek/Kevin war, the Derek imposter, Bahr silence and later apology(Yes, back then), german-prog-guy, (Ashar?), Ricardo, KorgX3 badass posts. I've laughed it off so many times, cause of that guy, I now have a removeble butt.
I don't think I am an ol'timer, but more in my midlife on this list.
Thank's for the fun, this is not a swan-song, we've only just begun!
JCBakken Hamar Norway, "by way of Las Vegas".
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Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 03:34:51 -0500 From: WB Henderson <wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Entombed Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20020406024514.019942c0@cs.millersville.edu>
>I know there are at least a few people around here who are into death metal. >I would highly recommend to any such perverts and undesirables a new disc: >Entombed's "Morning Star."
I'll second that. "Morning Star" is a good album. Probably a nice entry point into the world of death metal as well, considering its catchiness.
Entombed are supposed to be touring the States next month, along with Hypocrisy, Immortal, and Scar Culture. I'm thinking this may have been nixed, however, since I haven't heard anything about it in a few weeks (and it'll be May soon enough).
Brian
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Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 10:37:48 +0200 From: Sebastian Keil <keil.s@web.de> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: quite a jam Message-ID: <200204060837.g368bmv17919@mailgate5.cinetic.de>
Hi there, The last jam must have been the longest jam not filled with ads but real posts in quite a while. Brian, you're right, arash was his name. Damon, I think you mean Ed Polzin, who distributed stuff over "Live Rare Recordings", he had the Rudess Experiment among various others (I have that particular boot, so...)his URL used to be http://members.home.net/epolzin/ but doesn't seem to work anymore. Bummer. New York show, I can't download it. I was gleeming all over at the thought of hearing 6doit live, but I always get the message DNS cannot be reached or something like that. Any thoughts? cheers, sab no bottom line -- If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything! ____________________________________________________ Berufsunfdhigskeitversicherung von Mamax bei WEB.DE. Jetzt informieren! http://bu.web.de
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Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 05:53:19 -0500 From: "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@attbi.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: The BafuJam Message-ID: <3CAED39F.1D94@attbi.com>
> Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 10:25:18 -0500 > From: Coldfire <coldie@bellatlantic.net> > Subject: Re: Oldtimers!!! > > Eric George wrote: > > > > let's see, i guess i've been on here since about `96, and remember the > > Derek/Kevin wars VERY well. lurked for the first couple `o years, and > > didn't start posting regularly until around `98 or so. Damn, so many > > memories. KorgX3, Bafu (of course), Al (he still posts now & then, i > > believe), BABS, and the list goes on. > > I've actually MET Bafu and lived! ;) And hugegd him too! This was back > in 2000 at the DC shows...was there with Kez and Major Dad and a few > other NoVA jammers and I got to meet the infamous Bafu...I think I > hollared something not so nice in my glee and excitement.
Errmm, umm, well.... I slept with Bafu.
No, realli!
Well, sorta. :)
Back at YtseCon II I was among the very first Ytsejammers to meet Bafu. Trey "T-Stretch" Allen and his friend Brandon drove up from Fla., met me in Charlotte NC, and then we drove to Maryland to pick Bafu up at his dad's house for the final ride to Long Island for YtseCon II and the DT show at the Malibu Club. (You oldtimers will recall that Trey organized YtseCon II.) We get to the house and his dad yells upstairs. Some youngster comes down the stairs, apparently his younger brother or something: clean-cut, short hair, clearly not the wild-eyed Bafu we all knew and loved. "Hi, I think we're looking for your older brother--" "Oh, no you're not!" :)
That first night, we'd gotten a hotel room and we had to share beds (4 of us, two big double beds). The Fla. crew claimed one bed....leaving one bed for me and Bafu.
I, err, survived. :)
Incidentally, you haven't experienced true fright until you've ridden in the back of a car being driven by two 18-year old kids from Jacksonville ("Snow? We've heard of that. It snowed here about fifty years ago!")...with the partly-plowed dregs of a big winter storm on the ground, and on the roads. At one especially scary moment, Bafu and I exchanged a look in the back seat and he mouthed at me "We are going to die!" Damn Florida kids. :) When we arrived at the hotel, Trey and Brandon took one look at the snowdrifts, looked at eachother, shrugged, and ran yelling at the snow and jumped into it like maniacs. It was their first time ever seeing snow. I'm from Atlanta, where it snows once every five years, and I proudly remained aloof and superior with Bafu during the silliness. :)
That was my first DT roadtrip, and it was so much fun -- despite the occasional bouts of sheer terror -- that I've taken many more over the years. Ahhhh, so many great memories, and I've met so many cool Ytsejammers (and nowadays, MP.com Forum-folk).
BTW, yes, Bernd, I remember the infamous chocolate incident. I was one of the lucky ones who got a completely clean copy of the legendary original demo of "Behind." It's -still- in service to this day. True quality on that disk, through and through.
Sidenote: based on the five songs I've heard recently and hearing the whole CD (exactly once) back at Progpower in November, Superior's new one, Ultima Ratio, will be one of THE ruling prog-metal CDs of 2002. Mark my words, friends. :)
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