YTSEJAM Digest 6165
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Old-timers
by lisa@palma.net
2) Re: Oldtimers
by "Sasha C." <sasa.cabaravdic@pu.tel.hr>
3) RE:Blasts from the Past for us Oldtimers
by Martin Schoch <mdschoch@bellatlantic.net>
4) Oldies and/or moldies
by "Larry" <ldo1@prodigy.net>
5) oldtimers
by Michael & Pamela Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com>
6) Soilwork, NATURAL BORN CHAOS
by "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@attbi.com>
7) Re: Soilwork, NATURAL BORN CHAOS
by Rick Audet <spine@optical.mindstorm.com>
8) Flower Kings
by "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@attbi.com>
9) Jam Nostalgia
by Sum WhiteGuy <pokgaitsai@yahoo.com>
10) Re: Oldtimers unite!
by "Michael Detzel" <Ytsemike@gmx.de>
11) RE: VH1 Classic is my new hero
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
12) Re: Oldtimers unite!
by "Kez" <kez@stickdog.com>
13) Re: Oldtimers unite!
by "Kez" <kez@stickdog.com>
14) When Dream & Day Unite ltd. ed.
by Gary Davis <artshop@artist-shop.com>
15) Old Timing
by "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@zero.corp.publichost.com>
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Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 12:45:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: lisa@palma.net
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Old-timers
Message-ID: <20020407124502.14435.h011.c000.wm@mail.palma.net.criticalpath.net>
At 06:24 PM 4/4/2002, Thorin wrote:
>
> Well I saw two other people say there were here since '97 and that is
> when I jumped on board. Not really sure that makes me an old timer.
>
> Tuggmutton,Vic,Bafu Vai, Baba, Augie ,SubtleRage, Itchy, Jessie,
> Kerowyn, Sara Rockercat, KillMary, Jotarou, ArchAngel, Rasta Frog,
> Aragorn, Jon, Eckie,.....is anyone out there?
Jessie waves! :oD
(tried THREE TIMES to post this message btw, and it's just not going
through... ::grumble::)
Been here since the spring of 96 when I finally got a job that gave me
access to the Internet (just after the server change I think - I guess
that makes me more of a mid-timer). The very first words I typed into a
search engine were "Dream Theater", which is how I ended up here.
I'm still here, but the job (and my out of control LotR fanaticism)
keeps me pretty busy... barely enough time to post to lists that I run,
let alone ones that I don't.
Still see Spine, still talk to Itchy, and I just saw Eckie and Tim a few
weeks ago, as a matter of fact. I usually see Cheryl at the southern CA
shows, but it's been quite a while... hi Cheryl! :o)
My question is, where the hell is George Farber?
At 04:20 PM 4/6/2002, Dave Thomas wrote:
>
> I've met a lot of people on this list, or that used to be on this list,
> anyway. I still have that pic on my hard drive where we had a gathering
> at our house before a DT show in SF. That was a fun day.
I still have that picture too... sometimes I miss my firey-red hair, and
wish I never cut it short. ::sigh:: And yes, Dave Thomas, you are
totally *the man* when it comes to sushi! :o)
~L
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 22:25:04 +0200
From: "Sasha C." <sasa.cabaravdic@pu.tel.hr>
To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Oldtimers
Message-ID: <002b01c1de72$aa0cfb20$048e1dc3@scabarav>
> From: schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
> - cut -
> BTW, I'm still missing the digests from #1 - #319, 4264-4834, and
> 5053-5422 if any of you oldtimers happen to have them sitting around
> (preferably in mailbox format).
Mailbox format?
I have them... actually I'm missing 5053, but I have all of them from 5054
to the present. But I'm using Outlook Express... so I'm not sure how helpful
I can be :-)
NP: OFB - Xmas Cd #004
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 17:09:48 -0400 From: Martin Schoch <mdschoch@bellatlantic.net> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE:Blasts from the Past for us Oldtimers Message-ID: <01C1DE57.0B963940.mdschoch@bellatlantic.net>
Been around since Awake came out. A couple of items for us old-timers:
1) Did Pat ever get the CD's from Al ?
2) How is Babs doing ? ( "Hi, it's me, Babs")
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 17:57:44 -0600 From: "Larry" <ldo1@prodigy.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Oldies and/or moldies Message-ID: <001701c1de90$0500cd00$a455e43f@c514550a>
* sigh* y'all made me come out of lurk mode . . .
Been here since April '95, and have never missed a digest since then (the 550's, I think). It's fun seeing everybody talk about the craziness that has transpired on this list. Wow -- seven years!
It's amazing how many DT fans come out for the shows here in Denver, but apparently don't know about this list. Who else out there is from Colorado???
Will try to be more "active" in the future.
Larry (aka Ytsefart the Elder) who turns 48 soon
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Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 20:14:35 -0500 From: Michael & Pamela Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: oldtimers Message-ID: <B8D6592B.2758%mnazer@pressenter.com>
> Larry (aka Ytsefart the Elder) who turns 48 soon
Hey, I thought I was the oldest one on the list (40). It's nice to know I am not the only one in the 40 something club.
Pam
"Hi" John Myung, 8/23/1998
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Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 21:12:35 -0400 From: "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@attbi.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Soilwork, NATURAL BORN CHAOS Message-ID: <3CB0EE83.AF0@attbi.com>
> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 13:56:29 -0600 > From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > Subject: Re: Entombed > > Speaking of Soilwork though, I got the new cd in the mail yesterday. > Amazing stuff. THose guys are really writing some great hooks.
--And the fact that Devin Townsend produced the CD doesn't hurt, either. :)
I finally got a copy and played it for the first time last night. Whoooo! So far, Green Carnation's LIGHT OF DAY, DAY OF DARKNESS, Superior's ULTIMA RATIO and this new Soilwork are ruling my 2002. (As always, DT are on a separate-but-equal "awesome" pedestal. :))
Who says there isn't good music around? You just have to FIND it....and that's what this list has been good for, since 1993! (Or whenever I signed up....judging from other posts, I might have joined earlier than I thought. :))
eh wot, sonny?, --Paul
-- +--- Paul W. Cashman, ICQ #4151223 www.paulcashman.com ----+ | **** NEW email: pellaz@attbi.com | | **** NEW website address: http://home.attbi.com/~pellaz | +---------------------------------------------------------------+
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 22:27:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Audet <spine@optical.mindstorm.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Soilwork, NATURAL BORN CHAOS Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10204072223360.2000-100000@optical.mindstorm.com>
On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Paul W. Cashman wrote:
> > Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 13:56:29 -0600 > > From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> > > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > > Subject: Re: Entombed > > > > Speaking of Soilwork though, I got the new cd in the mail yesterday. > > Amazing stuff. THose guys are really writing some great hooks. > > --And the fact that Devin Townsend produced the CD doesn't hurt, > either. :) > > I finally got a copy and played it for the first time last night. > Whoooo! So far, Green Carnation's LIGHT OF DAY, DAY OF DARKNESS, > Superior's ULTIMA RATIO and this new Soilwork are ruling my 2002. (As > always, DT are on a separate-but-equal "awesome" pedestal. :))
The new Soilwork album rocks so amazingly hard I am going to share three mp3s from the album with you kids so you can see if you like it enough to buy it.
I think this album is best described as Pantera meets Fear Factory with a spash of Dream Theater for good measure. YMMV. The files will be available for about a week.
http://electricrain.com/spine/soilwork_samples/
Enjoy,
Rick Audet San Francisco
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 20:39:56 -0700 From: "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@attbi.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Flower Kings Message-ID: <001301c1deaf$0f21c900$7244e40c@attbi.com>
I saw the Flower Kings last night in Seattle. Great show, but only about 120 people (in an 800 seat theater). Trevor
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 21:05:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Sum WhiteGuy <pokgaitsai@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Jam Nostalgia Message-ID: <20020408040547.10129.qmail@web11505.mail.yahoo.com>
> > Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 14:48:02 -0500 > From: "Ryan Park" <rpark@space-dye.com> > To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> > Subject: Re: Oldtimers!!! > Message-ID: <000101c1dda4$08c3cfb0$6501a8c0@duron> > > Hi everyone,
Holy shit?!?!? Ryan?!?!? aka "ryan" on #ystejam? Long time dude! I heard you were at ProgPower 2 and I didn't get to meet you in person finally. Dunno if you rememebr, but I was mau-tze on #ytsejam.
> The next time I went to see DT, I also was > desparately looking for Bafu. > I was a college student without a car, and he was > supposed to give me a > ride to the show in Baltimore. He was supposed to > pick me up at a train > station in DC, but he accidentally told me to go to > the wrong one! I > waited there for an hour, and finally decided he > must not be coming. So > rather than do the responsible thing (go home) I > took a commuter train > up to Baltimore, took a $40 taxi to this SHITHOLE > bar in the boonies, > and saw a great DT show.
Which shithole bar in baltimore...are you talking about the Daytona's show in 5/98 or the Bohager's show in 2/00? The 5/98 show wasn't all that great, the sound was mixed really bad from my position, and the 2/00 show seemed a bit flat to me.
> > After the show, it was 1AM and I really had no idea > how I was gonna get > home! Fortunately, I met up with Bafu and Kez and a > couple other > jammers, and met the band for the first time. I got > a free dinner out > of it from Kez :) > > Ryan > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 14:55:40 -0500 > From: Barbara Battaglia <babs4@frontiernet.net> > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > Subject: Memory Lane > Message-ID:
Hey everyone...it's BABS!!!
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>Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 18:07:49 -0500 >From: "Dave Neff" <nerf1@erols.com> >To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> >Subject: Re: Oldtimers >Message-ID: ><000b01c1ddbf$dfb72ba0>$a2dbfea9@oemcomputer> > >>From: Sum WhiteGuy <pokgaitsai@yahoo.com> >> Home For the Holidays Tour (and meeting a bunch of >> other 'old timers' at the Fantazia Diner as we were >> all getting kicked out...E-Man, Hairball, etc....) >Did you mean D-Man as in (Chris?) Digital Man, or >Elliott Kim? >Either/or, both were there, as I recall. >I sat at a table at the Fantazia with D-Man, Skadz, >and ... >somebody else. Who were you??
Wasn't me...i showed up right as everyone was getting the boot. I walked in looking for Hairball 'cause he had an extra ticket i was buying from him and the manager immediately told me to leave.
I eventually ate at teh McDonalds across the street with E-Man (Elliot Kim...though I do forget how he spells his first name), some dude from Inferno (great demo tape!), Brian Cox ("official" recorder of the HFTH tour), and some others. It was a great time, until I got thrown out of the show during Lifting Shadows....grrrrrrrrr. I didn't meeet D-Man until years later at a California Guitar Trio show w/ guest Tony Levin in Baltimore.
*sigh* I miss the insanity of #ystejam 'back in the day'
Jon. mau-tze@erols.com
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 13:18:18 +0200 From: "Michael Detzel" <Ytsemike@gmx.de> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Oldtimers unite! Message-ID: <002001c1deef$18341120$097ba8c0@michael>
Hi I am Mike from Germany and I'm not quite an oldtimer on this jam. I joined the list right before OIAL came out and since then I only lurked around....But I am very interested in the history of the ytsejam, I read all the oldtimer posts and checked the ytse archives ( http://www.interzone.com/Music/Ytsejam) long ago. When you guys talk about the past I can really feel the magic that was going on here back in those good old days. As Steve said the archives are missing some digests (#1-#319) I have to say that these are the digests I'm most interested in. What were the topics in these first digests, who founded the mailing list, how many people were on this list in the early days?? Some history lessons would be really appreciated! ;-)
Mike
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 07:00:22 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> Subject: RE: VH1 Classic is my new hero Message-ID: <3CEB2BD450223743A4895C0D0C5DFC3A9466CB@haxlcsechp0.healthaxis.dom>
I'm right there with you Summer !! I had just gotten back from the mall and sat down to watch some TV and flipped by VH1 Classic and they were playing Motley's Wildside.... That caught my eye so I watched it, and then the heart comes on TV and the first few notes of PULL ME UNDER start going and I FREAK. It was great to see that on VH1 Classic. I watched for 30 more minutes because video after video were greatness.
JM
> -----Original Message----- > From: gloom gloom [SMTP:gloomchen@anada.net] > > So, I'm sitting in my living room reading the Rolling Stone Encyclopedia > of > Rock (I'm such a nerd) with VH1 Classic on in the background. They'd just > finished up a set of 80s teen movie songs (you know, stuff by Orchestral > Manoevres in the Dark, Simply Red, Michael Sembello) and were starting > into > the 5:00 hour (central time). It appeared to be a hard rock block, as > they > started out with Motley Crue's "Wildside." Then, they played... > > PULL ME UNDER. > > Absolutely no shit. I marked out like a little bitch, I turned the TV up > to > 11, I ran and jumped around, sang along, and experienced that same initial > reaction I'd felt when I first saw them on Headbanger's Ball way back in > the > way back days. > > So, uh, anyway, I'm a big nerd as I mentioned before, and I tend to watch > a > lot of VH1 Classic. I happen to know from experience that they repeat all > of their videos in 8-hour blocks. This means that you can see PMU played > again at approximately 1:05am CST tonight/tomorrow morning. Not that a > bunch of us don't have it on the Live in Tokyo video or something, but > it's > so much BETTER seeing it played over live stream where you just know that > someone else is seeing it possibly for the first time. > > And if you do catch the video, you'll be oh so excited to see a Faster > Pussycat video immediately afterwards... hahahaha. > > But even if you don't get the channel, or you missed it due to this being > in > a late digest or something, you can rest assured that someone out there in > VH1 land knows that OFB exists. And that makes me even happier than > watching the video again. > > --summer > > >
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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 13:04:17 -0500 From: "Kez" <kez@stickdog.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Oldtimers unite! Message-ID: <000601c1defb$8bc9cba0$0300005a@kezp3800>
I guess I DO qualify as an oldtimer now. Been here since since before FII came out.
Hi Coldie
Hi Paul
Hi Phil
I miss Bafu........
Kez, life proceeds in a forward direction, for the most part
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 10:01:17 -0400 From: "Kez" <kez@stickdog.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Oldtimers unite! Message-ID: <000701c1df05$db2a5660$0300005a@kezp3800>
Ummmm, this post was supposed to go out Thursday........stupid mail server.....
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kez" <kez@stickdog.com> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 9:03 AM Subject: Re: Oldtimers unite!
> I guess I DO qualify as an oldtimer now. Been here since since before FII > came out. > > Hi Coldie > > Hi Paul > > Hi Phil > > > I miss Bafu........ > > > Kez, life proceeds in a forward direction, for the most part > >
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Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 12:05:39 -0400 From: Gary Davis <artshop@artist-shop.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: When Dream & Day Unite ltd. ed. Message-ID: <2.2.32.20020408160539.01eda624@gwis.com>
Hi, folks:
The latest Artist Shop newsletter is out and you'll find it in its entirety at <http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm>. Meanwhile, here's an excerpt for Ytsejammers.
Available now from One Way Records <http://www.artist-shop.com/oneway> Dream Theater/When Dream and Day Unite ....CD One Way Records is proud to announce its limited edition special package of one of the best selling titles of the label's history. When Dream and Day Unite is recognized as the official debut release for Dream Theater and will be available in a limited edition package - a thick cardboard glossy digipak and picture CD - and remastered using 32-bit technology! By remastering this release, Dream Theater fans will finally get to hear this CD the way it's never been heard before, and the limited edition packaging is individually numbered in gold foil for collectability. Pressing for this limited edition is strictly limited to 10,000 copies. Once the limited edition is gone, the packaging will go back to the standard jewel case.
Gary
************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop@artist-shop.com phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! ************************************************************** Artist Shop Radio <http://www.artist-shop.com/radio> Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 09:41:55 -0700 From: "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@zero.corp.publichost.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Old Timing Message-ID: <20020408094155.A25621@zero.corp.publichost.com>
I am not old dammit!
Hey, I DROVE with Bafu and lived!
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