YTSEJAM Digest 6174
Today's Topics:
1) marillion etc.
by "Sergey Shilov" <shilovsergey@yandex.ru>
2) re: ohh Dr Mosh I feel so dissed
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
3) Re: Price of CD
by schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
4) Some idiots never learn...
by "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@zero.corp.publichost.com>
5) *SPOILERS* Rush tour info *SPOILERS*
by Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
6) Re: RUSH hits DALLAS
by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@comcast.net>
7) Re: *SPOILERS* Rush tour info *SPOILERS*
by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@comcast.net>
8) "Those wacky Swedes"
by "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@attbi.com>
9) Re: "Thothe wacky Thweedth"
by Rick Audet <spine@optical.mindstorm.com>
10) mr arthur
by "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@attbi.com>
11) is dr. mosh a bad guy?
by Sebastian Keil <keil.s@web.de>
12) what would you rather have?
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@yahoo.com>
13) Re: what would you rather have?
by "Kez" <kez@stickdog.com>
14) Re: "Thothe wacky Thweedth"
by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@comcast.net>
15) Re: ohh Dr Mosh I feel so dissed
by "Dave Schott" <admdave@qis.net>
16) Re: what would you rather have?
by Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
17) news for yes fans
by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@comcast.net>
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 21:57:14 +1100
From: "Sergey Shilov" <shilovsergey@yandex.ru>
To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: marillion etc.
Message-ID: <000801c1e58c$05161540$5b8a3bd5@deadman>
thanks to all who posted info on these bands
this helped a lot to make a decision
sergey shilov
russian unofficial dream theater web site "lines in the web"
http://dreamtheater.by.ru/
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:44:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: re: ohh Dr Mosh I feel so dissed
Message-ID: <20020416214411.2733.qmail@web12106.mail.yahoo.com>
"stephen arthur" <stevenros@cwcom.net> wrote about Dr.
Mosh:
> Some brain dead american nerd decides to respond in
a fashion that
> speaks volumes about his intellectual
capacities.(look out
> the Doctor is in the house.aahhhhh)
Damn stupid Americans! (Hold on, I thought Mosh wasn't
an American. Isn't he here in California on one of
those H1-N nerd visas? Or did he sneak across the
border?)
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 19:44:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Price of CD
Message-ID: <m16xccQ-000JyTC@mail.interzone.com>
>
>Isnt it great to know that the art of real debate is still alive and
>kicking.
>
>I tried to instigate a discussion/debate about the pricing of the new cd
>(exorbitant at > 30 quid) but what happens....?
>
>Some brain dead american nerd decides to respond in a fashion that speaks
>volumes about his intellectual capacities.(look out the Doctor is in the
>house.aahhhhh)
>
>I must say that I'm sure everybody on the jam would much rather see dozens
>of posts all talking about how long people have been on the jam....this
>subject is sooo thrilling for those of us sad enough to not actually save
>any old jams and certainly not in need of feeling superior by length of
>subscription (does length really matter..or is it width?)
>
There's always an ass out there, don't worry we're not all like
that. To try to respond to your debate... How much do you usually pay
for CDs? Is this one priced higher than normal? Who do you think is
marking up the prices? Can you order from Amazon.com and get it shipped
there more cheaply?
Steve
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 17:28:15 -0700
From: "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@zero.corp.publichost.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Some idiots never learn...
Message-ID: <20020416172815.A32364@zero.corp.publichost.com>
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:08:41 -0700 From: "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@zero.corp.publichost.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ohh Dr Mosh I feel so dissed Message-ID: <20020416140841.A21076@zero.corp.publichost.com> References: <001001c1e57a$55169a40$ec9e193e@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001001c1e57a$55169a40$ec9e193e@oemcomputer>; from stevenros@cwcom.net on Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 12:33:42PM -0700
Signal received 0. stephen arthur <stevenros@cwcom.net> said: > Isnt it great to know that the art of real debate is still alive and > kicking. > > I tried to instigate a discussion/debate about the pricing of the new cd > (exorbitant at > 30 quid) but what happens....?
Uh, no dipshit, you tried to instigate discussion of what a lil rip-off artist you are because you can't afford to buy the cd so you mp3 it.
> > Some brain dead american nerd decides to respond in a fashion that speaks > volumes about his intellectual capacities.(look out the Doctor is in the > house.aahhhhh)
Ok you poor foreigner yer so goddamn smart cause you know how to download mp3s, doesn't take real brains to figure out your dad raped you cause he couldn't afford hookers.
Go back and stand on the corner and sell yourself to real men so you can buy some bread for dinner.
Not only that, because no one responded to your beat topic, you decided to forward it to the list again.
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 17:39:35 -0700 From: Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: *SPOILERS* Rush tour info *SPOILERS* Message-ID: <B8E21257.39ED%schansen@cts.com>
Saw this post on the Interactive Rush Network and thought you guys might find it very interesting! Here's the URL (altho I think you need to be a member to view the contents of the message board): http://www.worldwidewebtour.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=62&t 000165
Scott
------------- I got an interesting e-mail yesterday regarding the tour and thought I would pass along some of what I learned. The tour is being planned still with the venues out west,Canada, and the southeast. The schedule is leaving TBA's all over the place in spots around Michigan, L.A., Phoenix, and NYC. This leaving the likelihood that the band is setting up for 2 night stands in these areas. The 2nd leg will be announced in 3-4 weeks more than likely 3 weeks when all is locked up.
Tickets will go on sale for the 2nd leg the first week of June and the tour is scheduled to end in North America in November.
The band is leaving the option of 1 week to tour in South America in Dec/Jan and then 3-4 weeks in Jan-Feb with the tour ending then in early 2003. This is all pending on the success of the tour in North America and the response to the album sales worldwide. Hawaii and Alaska have been also on the table as well as a possible tour of Japan for the first time since 1984.
They plan to tour 2 weeks then take 1 week off through the entire cycle. Also there is talking going on that Neil will do select signings of Ghost Rider in NYC,Chicago, Toronto, Seattle, and L.A. on certain dates through the tour. This is still in discussion as Neil has hired a personal agent to handle his affairs for the first time outside of SRO.
Also I was told that the tour will bring back all of the Fear chapters in a special epic presentation for the shows including a screen show that will take your breath away and a special new state of the art system by Vari-Lite will be unveiled as well.
Color Kinetics and Targetti are also on board for the design of the show to bring something completely differnet than what has been seen at a Rush show being described to me so far as "On computer and paper this looks like Cirque du Soleil meets a rave."
Neil has still not ordered a new drum kit as of yet so the red sparkle drums remain so far and for the first time since 1984 he is considering dropping the electronics/ ddrums all together from his drumkit.He is also working on a new presentation for a drum solo as well.
This info comes way of a road crew member who worked on the TFE tour and will be working on the upcoming tour as well. I have known him for over 20+ years and his word is solid
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 21:06:03 -0400 From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@comcast.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: RUSH hits DALLAS Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020416210551.00a39300@mail.comcast.net>
And if you really care, they hit PNC bank arts center on July 11. At 03:33 PM 4/16/2002, you wrote: >Rush will be playing Dallas, Texas August 19th at Reunion Arena. > > JM
-- Damon Fibraio Musician, comedian, lover, and public menace email dfibraio@comcast.net aol instant messenger screenname: dfibraio MSN Messenger screenname: dfibraio@comcast.net Yahoo messenger name: Damon_m_f, Band sites: Visions: http://www.visions692000.com: Mystify: http://www.mystify2001.com To purchase the No Holds Barred Radio box set, see http://www.nhbradio.com "So many ways to drown a man, so many ways to drag him down. Some are fast and some take years and years. You can't hear what he's saying when he's talking in his sleep. he's finally found the sound, but he's in too deep."---Dream Theater, 6:00
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 21:11:23 -0400 From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@comcast.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: *SPOILERS* Rush tour info *SPOILERS* Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020416210808.00a3aec0@mail.comcast.net>
> >Neil has still not ordered a new drum kit as of yet so the red sparkle drums >remain so far and for the first time since 1984 he is considering dropping >the electronics/ ddrums all together from his drumkit.He is also working on >a new presentation for a drum solo as well. OK, so, what does that leave out that they can't do? Forget anything from Power Windows, pretty much, or Hold your fire. He can probably do most of the Grace under pressure stuff. You can probably forget Scarrs as well, and some of Presto. Unless he is going to either adapt those parts for acoustic drums or have Geddy trigger percussion and stuff from his keyboards or sequencers. Hmmmm. How in hell are they going to do Witch Hunt without the electronic drums? Or Big Money? I do like the idea that they'll be doing a new drum solo, and also hopefully pulling out some old numbers they haven't done in a while, Camera Eye, anybody? I mean, how many times can they play closer to the heart or the trees. I think they may concentrate on TFE, CounterParts and VaporTrails material, but I do hope they pull out some stuff from GUP, Signals, and the like.
-- Damon Fibraio Musician, comedian, lover, and public menace email dfibraio@comcast.net aol instant messenger screenname: dfibraio MSN Messenger screenname: dfibraio@comcast.net Yahoo messenger name: Damon_m_f, Band sites: Visions: http://www.visions692000.com: Mystify: http://www.mystify2001.com To purchase the No Holds Barred Radio box set, see http://www.nhbradio.com "So many ways to drown a man, so many ways to drag him down. Some are fast and some take years and years. You can't hear what he's saying when he's talking in his sleep. he's finally found the sound, but he's in too deep."---Dream Theater, 6:00
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 00:17:49 -0400 From: "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@attbi.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: "Those wacky Swedes" Message-ID: <3CBCF76D.48B@attbi.com>
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:02:46 -0700 (PDT) > From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com> > Subject: re: DT/Satch/?? > > "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@attbi.com> wrote: > > > A third "very special" act will also be on the bill. > > It'd be funny if it was Steve Vai. :) > > Did anyone hear a rumor about Yngwie? Or some other > Swedish act? ;o)
Opeth! Opeth! Opeth! \m/
:)
(I'll settle for Evergrey, In Flames, Freak Kitchen or Pain of Salvation, though. :))
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 00:53:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Audet <spine@optical.mindstorm.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: "Thothe wacky Thweedth" Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10204170048140.15214-100000@optical.mindstorm.com>
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Paul W. Cathman wrote:
> > Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:02:46 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Brian Hanthen <bhanthen10@yahoo.com> > > Thubject: re: DT/Thatch/?? > > > > "Paul W. Cathman" <pellath@attbi.com> wrote: > > > > > A third "very thpethial" act will altho be > > > on the bill. It'd be funny if it wath Thteve > > > Vai. :) > > > > Did anyone hear a rumor about Yngwie? Or thome > > other Thwedith act? ;o) > > Opeth! Opeth! Opeth! \m/
Metal with a lithp! Yeth! \M/
-Rick
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 23:45:00 -0700 From: "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@attbi.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: mr arthur Message-ID: <004001c1e5db$65afc0a0$7244e40c@attbi.com>
>From: "stephen arthur" <stevenros@cwcom.net> >Subject: ohh Dr Mosh I feel so dissed >Isnt it great to know that the art of real debate is still alive and >kicking. >I tried to instigate a discussion/debate about the pricing of the new cd >(exorbitant at > 30 quid) but what happens....?
No, you didn't. You just blatenty decreed that you had a pirite cd and didn't care that the band didn't get one cent from your cheap limey ass.
>Some brain dead american nerd decides to respond in a fashion that speaks >volumes about his intellectual capacities.(look out the Doctor is in the >house.aahhhhh)
As for his knowlege, he was probably at a metal show when you were trying to get to first base with the girl you invited over to your parents basement to listen to your new Hootie cd.
trevor
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 09:24:49 +0200 From: Sebastian Keil <keil.s@web.de> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: is dr. mosh a bad guy? Message-ID: <200204170724.g3H7Omv25707@mailgate5.cinetic.de>
stephen arthur wote: I must say that I'm sure everybody on the jam would much rather see dozens of posts all talking about how long people have been on the jam....this subject is sooo thrilling for those of us sad enough to not actually save any old jams and certainly not in need of feeling superior by length of subscription (does length really matter..or is it width?)
AFTER the doc said: go away
1. don't anger the doc 2. your post is so sad 3. the other half of doc's statement, we don't care, could also be used by the band, selling T's for the same price. However: 4. one post is enough, you cannot force your anger on us, but you'll have my pity 5. get a life
that's the bottom line
sab
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 05:42:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: what would you rather have? Message-ID: <20020417124248.92854.qmail@web21401.mail.yahoo.com>
a hundred people bashing you for being an ass because you're taking money out of the mouths of Dream Theater's kids by not paying what the record companies ask you to pay?
I think Mosh's response was appropriate on two levels....a) it fits with this little nostalgia kick we've been on lately, as the sarcasm is a habit he's indulged in over the years. It's good to see he hasn't kicked that particular addiction yet.
and b) more importantly, "we" really DON'T care that you're not going to buy the album at that crazy price. Especially in this "free" digital music age, there are people on this list who don't care whether you ever buy it....
as for me, and I'm guessing a majority of the people here, we're satisfied with your statement that you'll buy it when the price comes down....I wouldn't pay $50US for a Dream Theater album, either (he says, sheepishly thinking back to the days of Mike Bahr)
Bottom line.....get over yourself. We "all" agree that the pricing is ridiculous, and therefore, we really, really, really don't care about your little moral dilemma, since it doesn't look like one really exists.
Partha Mukhopadhyay
(PS: Yeehaw! I see the makings of a good old fashioned flame war! as long as we're doing the nostalgia thing....)
>Isnt it great to know that the art of real debate is >still alive and kicking. I tried to instigate a >discussion/debate about the pricing of the new cd >(exorbitant at 30 quid) but what happens....? > Some brain dead american nerd decides to respond in > a fashion that speaks volumes about his >intellectual capacities.(look out the Doctor is in >the house.aahhhhh)
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 10:39:38 -0400 From: "Kez" <kez@stickdog.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: what would you rather have? Message-ID: <001f01c1e61d$b4381960$0300005a@kezp3800>
Partha, you rock!
Nice post. :)
Kez, wandering down memory lane
----- Original Message ----- From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@yahoo.com> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 8:50 AM Subject: what would you rather have?
> a hundred people bashing you for being an ass because > you're taking money out of the mouths of Dream > Theater's kids by not paying what the record companies > ask you to pay?
<snip>
> Bottom line.....get over yourself. We "all" agree that > the pricing is ridiculous, and therefore, we really, > really, really don't care about your little moral > dilemma, since it doesn't look like one really exists. > > > Partha Mukhopadhyay > > (PS: Yeehaw! I see the makings of a good old fashioned > flame war! as long as we're doing the nostalgia > thing....) >
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 12:02:11 -0400 From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@comcast.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: "Thothe wacky Thweedth" Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020417120041.00a6d9b0@mail.comcast.net>
Rick. If you think that ith funny, you thould hear my thpeech thynthithither read your potht. It ith clathic. Thcreen reading with a lithp ith tho funny.
At 12:52 AM 4/17/2002, you wrote:
>On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Paul W. Cathman wrote: > > > > Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:02:46 -0700 (PDT) > > > From: Brian Hanthen <bhanthen10@yahoo.com> > > > Thubject: re: DT/Thatch/?? > > > > > > "Paul W. Cathman" <pellath@attbi.com> wrote: > > > > > > > A third "very thpethial" act will altho be > > > > on the bill. It'd be funny if it wath Thteve > > > > Vai. :) > > > > > > Did anyone hear a rumor about Yngwie? Or thome > > > other Thwedith act? ;o) > > > > Opeth! Opeth! Opeth! \m/ > > >Metal with a lithp! Yeth! \M/ > > >-Rick
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 13:47:39 -0700 From: "Dave Schott" <admdave@qis.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: ohh Dr Mosh I feel so dissed Message-ID: <004f01c1e651$234ef0c0$0100a8c0@one>
No, but really though... we don't care.... I mean we don't care... we don't care if you but the album or not.. I wouldn't for that much... So we don't care... go away...
With cake in vulgar surplus, we can have it and eat it too.
-AdmiralDave (admdave@qis.net) ----- Original Message ----- From: stephen arthur To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 12:33 PM Subject: ohh Dr Mosh I feel so dissed
Isnt it great to know that the art of real debate is still alive and kicking.
I tried to instigate a discussion/debate about the pricing of the new cd (exorbitant at > 30 quid) but what happens....?
Some brain dead american nerd decides to respond in a fashion that speaks volumes about his intellectual capacities.(look out the Doctor is in the house.aahhhhh)
I must say that I'm sure everybody on the jam would much rather see dozens of posts all talking about how long people have been on the jam....this subject is sooo thrilling for those of us sad enough to not actually save any old jams and certainly not in need of feeling superior by length of subscription (does length really matter..or is it width?)
Later............................
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 05:20:17 +1000 From: Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au> To: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: what would you rather have? Message-ID: <5237886240.20020418052017@optushome.com.au>
PM> (PS: Yeehaw! I see the makings of a good old fashioned PM> flame war! as long as we're doing the nostalgia PM> thing....)
Yup just like the good old days :)
Partha you suck.
Dr.Mosh hasn't been the same since his sex changed operation was reversed.
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 16:06:00 -0400 From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@comcast.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: news for yes fans Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020417160500.00a39b00@mail.comcast.net>
I just heard on Q104.3 in New York that Yes will be taking on a new old member on keys, Rick Wakeman, coming around again. I hope he actually stays in the damn band longer than two shows this time. Summer dates not yet announced on yesworld.com, but this report brought to you by a radio d.j. I am crossing my fingers and praying that it is true.
-- Damon Fibraio Musician, comedian, lover, and public menace email dfibraio@comcast.net aol instant messenger screenname: dfibraio MSN Messenger screenname: dfibraio@comcast.net Yahoo messenger name: Damon_m_f, Band sites: Visions: http://www.visions692000.com: Mystify: http://www.mystify2001.com To purchase the No Holds Barred Radio box set, see http://www.nhbradio.com "So many ways to drown a man, so many ways to drag him down. Some are fast and some take years and years. You can't hear what he's saying when he's talking in his sleep. he's finally found the sound, but he's in too deep."---Dream Theater, 6:00
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