YTSEJAM Digest 6395
Today's Topics:
1) Opeth playlist
by Oddvar Lovaas <ceeol1@cee.hw.ac.uk>
2) RE: Royalties
by "Costello, Daniel J" <daniel.j.costello@lmco.com>
3) Re: Royalties
by "Tom White" <tmwhi@hotmail.com>
4) Re: Royalties
by WB Henderson <wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu>
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 01:27:46 +0000
From: Oddvar Lovaas <ceeol1@cee.hw.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Opeth playlist
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20021206012456.03130040@mail-server-1.macs.hw.ac.uk>
Well, Opeth played London yesterday, and what a gig it was! Them boys just
keeps on trucking!
Anyway, here's the playlist:
Godhead's Lament
The Drapery Falls
Deliverance
Credence
Advent
Bleak
A Fair Jugdement
--- Demon of the FallCheers, Oddvar
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 09:23:18 -0500 From: "Costello, Daniel J" <daniel.j.costello@lmco.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Royalties Message-ID: <9EFD49E2FB59D411AABA0008C7E675C00DE16A16@emss04m10.ems.lmco.com>
I hope that in the very near future, we see these greedy bastards sue themselves out of existence. I hope that they get so greedy and put such a stranglehold on things, that nobody will be willing to pay them a dime.
That's what I want for christmas. :-)
-Dan.
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 18:16:23 +0000 From: "Tom White" <tmwhi@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Royalties Message-ID: <F182EN14cZpb0mG7Y7A0001efc8@hotmail.com>
<That ruling is not only stupid on general principle, but it's got to be <next to unenforceable. I doubt the Finnish police will want to waste <time going on undercover cab rides to ensure taxi drivers are paying their <royalties.
No, but the Finnish collecting society will fine any cab drivers playing music without a licence, the Police wouldn't be involved. I can't speak for America but here in Great Britain any shops, restaurants, hairdressers, etc wanting to publically broadcast music (i.e. put on the radio) will need a licence from PRS (Performing Right Society) to do so and the money collected from this licence is distributed to the bands/ artists in its membership base. PRS don't ask which specific songs are being played, so those particular bands/ artists won't end up getting the royalties in the first place, making the whole thing a waste of everyone's time.
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 19:49:57 -0500 From: WB Henderson <wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Royalties Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20021206193514.018b3320@cs.millersville.edu>
>No, but the Finnish collecting society will fine any cab drivers playing >music without a licence, the Police wouldn't be involved.
Even then, you're still talking about random checks requiring considerable effort for little gain. It'll be even more difficult considering, as opposed to most clubs and restaurants, taxis are rarely in the same place for long. I don't know if Finns regularly ignore the more worthless laws as is customary in the US (ex. speed limits), but I suspect this law is of that 'easily forgettable' variety. Like speeding, if it costs a driver a fine here or there, they'll probably continue to do it because the benefits (entertainment during a long, boring shift in this case), outweigh the penalties.
>America but here in Great Britain any shops, restaurants, hairdressers, etc >wanting to publically broadcast music (i.e. put on the radio) will need a >licence from PRS (Performing Right Society) to do so and the money collected >from this licence is distributed to the bands/ artists in its membership >base.
As far as I know, there's no such thing in this country. (If there is, few pay it any mind, let alone money.)
>PRS don't ask which specific songs are being played, so those >particular bands/ artists won't end up getting the royalties in the first >place, making the whole thing a waste of everyone's time.
Bureaucracy supporting bureaucracy...the way things work!
Brian
[NP...Opeth -- Deliverance]
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