YTSEJAM digest 6099

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Fri Feb 01 2002 - 21:40:20 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 6099

    Today's Topics:

      1) 6doit observations
     by "Robert Newcomb" <newcombr@netdot.com>
      2) Re: 6DOIT Comments (SPOILERS!) - LONG!
     by "Rob Pociluk" <robpociluk@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
      3) Solitary Shell
     by Lyric <lyric@jhu.edu>
      4) Re: 6DOIT Comments (SPOILERS!) - LONG!
     by LaxBoy329@aol.com
      5) Re: Australian DT promoter petition
     by "dreamryche" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
      6) Re: Australian DT promoter petition
     by "dreamryche" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
      7) re: ozdt.com
     by "Tanja Sorsa" <Tanja.Sorsa@fng.fi>
      8) Re: Solitary Shell
     by "Christopher J. Cerminara" <ccerminara@yahoo.com>
      9) RE: Solitary Shell
     by "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org>
     10) Solitary Shell
     by Alexis Ramos <alexis_ramos@yahoo.com>
     11) Re: 6doit observations
     by Ilia <painlessscream@yahoo.com>
     12) Re: Solitary Shell
     by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
     13) Re: 6doit observations
     by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
     14) re: ozdt.com
     by Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>

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    Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:30:22 -0600
    From: "Robert Newcomb" <newcombr@netdot.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: 6doit observations
    Message-ID: <001f01c1aad0$ca989000$95d227d1@newcombr.netdot.com>

    Just a few small observations about the new album!

    Is anyone else pissed that there are no songs penned by John Myung on
    this album? Myung and Moore were always the best song writers.

    Seems to be a lot more religious overtones on this album than there has
    been in the past. It may just be the nature of the content or I may be
    drunk.

    James actually has two songs on this disc?!?! I think that is a record
    for him.

    The new album gets four and a half devil horns out of five \m/ \m/ \m/
    \m/ \m !!!

    Thorin

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    Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 22:49:38 -0500
    From: "Rob Pociluk" <robpociluk@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: 6DOIT Comments (SPOILERS!) - LONG!
    Message-ID: <8D3B1E56E2A53474BBB271EBBF666F51@robpociluk.dreamtheater.zzn.com>

    <<6 Degrees - Wow. Wow. That's about all I can think of. It starts off
                       sounding like a movie soundtrack with overture - like no other prog I've
                       ever heard, really. The lyrics are a bit stronger here, I feel. It takes
                       you through some quite heavy parts, and then slows down, then bursts into
                       one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard (Solitary Shell!!! Yes!).
                       I had chills through half of it. Here's the new orchestral sound that must
                       have Jordan layering at least 8 tracks in some places. Very very cool, even
                       though I imagine he'll have to automate a lot of that live..>>

    I finally noticed someone else had the same reaction I did to "Solitary Shell". This is destined to be my favorite DT song. It is
    absolutely perfect. The chorus just blows me away everytime I hear it. I do like the edit version on the advance fan club CD slightly
    better as it lets the song breathe by itself. It's a great high point of the 42 minute epic as well. This song and "Misunderstood" need
    to be the singles from this release. I think both SHOULD do well...if there is a God.

    Rob

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    Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 23:46:07 -0500
    From: Lyric <lyric@jhu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Solitary Shell
    Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.4.05.10201312341270.111830030-100000@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>

    I can't believe no one's mentioned this - the similarities between
    Solitary Shell and Peter Gabriel's Solsbury Hill. Very similar chord
    progressions, both in 7, and very similar thematic material.

    Anyone agree?

    - Lyric

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    Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 00:04:16 EST
    From: LaxBoy329@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: 6DOIT Comments (SPOILERS!) - LONG!
    Message-ID: <9f.2201f93a.298b7bd0@aol.com>

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    include m in that solitary shell fan list :) is one of my fav's. It makes me
    think of the silent man.... but neways does neone have a version of solitary
    shell as the single song from the fan club disc they can send me :) PRETTY
    PLEASE :)... hehe

    Andrew

    P.s. how 6doit fades into that song is awesome :/

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    Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 16:27:26 +1100
    From: "dreamryche" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: Australian DT promoter petition
    Message-ID: <002701c1aae1$232252a0$9e4136cb@PaulTadday>

    Ahhhh.... we can only but dream!!!
    Hehehe... pardon the pun!!
    ;)

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
    To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 1:32 AM
    Subject: Australian DT promoter petition

    > I don't know if anyone's posted this yet, but for any Aussies that haven't
    > seen this yet, go to:
    >
    > http://www.ozdt.com
    >
    > and sign the online petition. Hopefully we can convince a promoter to get
    DT
    > down here, and we can rock this joint! :P
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Niall
    >

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    Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 16:38:18 +1100
    From: "dreamryche" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: Australian DT promoter petition
    Message-ID: <004a01c1aae2$a756d0e0$9e4136cb@PaulTadday>

    With the recent success of club tours by Fear Factory, Megadeth, Judas
    Priest, Devin Townsend, Bruce Kulick, Tomahawk, Fantomas as well as great
    shows by Slayer, Machine Head, Tool, among others, it's definately worth a
    shot to try to get DT down here.

    The local scene is thriving here at the moment, metal in general is as
    popular as ever and who better to support DT than our very own Vanishing
    Point!!! Let's go for it!! What do we have to lose??
    ARE YOU READING THIS MR. PORTNOY?????

    Paul.

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Graham Boyle" <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>

    > NC> I don't know if anyone's posted this yet, but for any Aussies that
    haven't
    > NC> seen this yet, go to:
    >
    > NC> http://www.ozdt.com
    >

    > Unless there is a new promoter on the scene it's a waste of time.
    > We did the same thing a couple years back and no interest, they even
    > spelt DT's name wrong when they replied to the petition :(

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    Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 15:01:25 EET-2
    From: "Tanja Sorsa" <Tanja.Sorsa@fng.fi>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: re: ozdt.com
    Message-ID: <3C5AADC4.10450.1844D8B@localhost>

    Hei.

    [Graham - the downunder one - wrote]
    Unless there is a new promoter on the scene it's a waste of time.
    We did the same thing a couple years back and no interest, they
    even spelt DT's name wrong when they replied to the petition :(
    ---------------
    Did you see that Mike signed the petition too? :) I think they have
    a better chance this time around, at least from what I have heard
    from Gary, the lunatic that really wants them there. :)

    You can sign the petition even if you don't live in Australia. So
    everyone, go sign it www.ozdt.com and help the fellow jammers!

    6 Do It --- it ROCKS! I was very positively surprised... yet again...
    How can those guys keep on making stuff like this? *shakes her
    head* My only problem is with the lyrics -- but then again, lyrics
    have never been *that* important for me in Dream Theater...

    Bummer that they skipped Finland this time around... Sure hope
    that they will come here on the 2nd leg...

    Tanja -- who can't even remember the last time she posted here...
    Time to breath fire into this place! I still prefer this list to all the
    1003829 forums on the net...

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    Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 07:52:10 -0500
    From: "Christopher J. Cerminara" <ccerminara@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Solitary Shell
    Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020201074916.00a45b80@pop.mail.yahoo.com>

    That same thought hit me on my way in to work this morning. It took me a
    minute or two to actually figure out why it had that familiar sound. I'm
    surprised this is the first time somebody has brought it up.

    Chris

    At 08:37 PM 1/31/02 -0800, you wrote:
    >I can't believe no one's mentioned this - the similarities between
    >Solitary Shell and Peter Gabriel's Solsbury Hill. Very similar chord
    >progressions, both in 7, and very similar thematic material.
    >
    >Anyone agree?
    >
    >- Lyric

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    Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 11:34:23 -0500
    From: "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: RE: Solitary Shell
    Message-ID: <EGEIJAKNLNKPLAHMKAIPOEHACHAA.hrivera@crp.org>

    First time here. It's been beaten to death on the various message boards for
    about a month and a half now...

    joe

    >I'm surprised this is the first time somebody has brought it up.

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    Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 08:42:42 -0800 (PST)
    From: Alexis Ramos <alexis_ramos@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Solitary Shell
    Message-ID: <20020201164242.61320.qmail@web10508.mail.yahoo.com>

    To the guy that said the petrucci and rudess acoustic
    solos on solitary shell sound like the stuff they did
    on the "Night with Rudess and Petrucci" or however
    it's named cd, I agree completely. It's exactly the
    same thing, except for the fact that the other guys
    are playing on it as well. The thing that I love the
    most about that part is that we get the chance to
    listen to Portnoy play some jazz music!!! I think
    that's the first time I've heard him play jazz, and he
    sounds awesome. Even though I consider Mike to be an
    amazing drummer, I've always considered that he needs
    to jazz things up a little bit every now and then, to
    show some more looseness and syncopation (sp?) in his
    playing. So this part of Solitary Shell is definitely
    a step in the right direction. Great going Mike!!!

    Alexis

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    Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 08:53:30 -0800 (PST)
    From: Ilia <painlessscream@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: 6doit observations
    Message-ID: <20020201165330.33873.qmail@web11305.mail.yahoo.com>

    I still think Moore was DT's greatest loss, especially lyrically. He
    wrote some of their best lyrical material by far, and his songwriting
    was incredible. Myung is an excellent lyricist too, too bad he didn't
    write anything for this album. His lyrics on SfaM were probably the
    best on that release out of all the others.

    Any bets on when Rudess writes his first song for DT? :-P

    - Ilia.
    http://www.44lbs.com

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    Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 12:55:40 -0400
    From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: Solitary Shell
    Message-ID: <000501c1ab41$485e0630$a44d48d8@atenas>

    Its been mentioned a lot ever since the track was first released on the
    mp.com forum..

    > That same thought hit me on my way in to work this morning. It took me a
    > minute or two to actually figure out why it had that familiar sound. I'm
    > surprised this is the first time somebody has brought it up.
    >
    > Chris
    >
    >
    > At 08:37 PM 1/31/02 -0800, you wrote:
    > >I can't believe no one's mentioned this - the similarities between
    > >Solitary Shell and Peter Gabriel's Solsbury Hill. Very similar chord
    > >progressions, both in 7, and very similar thematic material.
    > >
    > >Anyone agree?
    > >
    > >- Lyric
    >
    >
    >

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    Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 12:41:28 -0500 (EST)
    From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: 6doit observations
    Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0202011240450.51579-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>

    On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Ilia wrote:

    > Any bets on when Rudess writes his first song for DT? :-P

    Uh... Let's see now. Finally Free? Or how about Misunderstood?

    Or do you mean lyrics? Because I know he's written songs, just no lyrics.

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    Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 18:38:46 +0000 (UTC)
    From: Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: re: ozdt.com
    Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.33.0202011837130.29240-100000@sdf.lonestar.org>

    On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Tanja Sorsa wrote:

    > Tanja -- who can't even remember the last time she posted here...
    > Time to breath fire into this place! I still prefer this list to all the
    > 1003829 forums on the net...
    >
    yeah, but for some us "old-timers", it sure is good to see you posting
    again!!! long-live the 'Jam!!!!!

                    -eric

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