YTSEJAM Digest 6256
Today's Topics:
1) Re: 6Doit CD2=junk?
by Michael & Pamela Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com>
2) Re: Dancing to Prog?
by Heike =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6deker <heike.boedeker@netcologne.de>
3) Re: Best of 02 (6DOIT, Satch, Opeth, SX, Nightwish, DTownsend,
by Michael & Pamela Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com>
4) Why the new Satch is different
by Mark Peters <epididymisle@earthlink.net>
5) Re: Best of 02 (6DOIT, Satch, Opeth, SX, Nightwish, DTownsend,
by Dave Peterson <razortag@yahoo.com>
6) Re: Why the new Satch is different
by Michael & Pamela Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com>
7) Re: Best of 02 (6DOIT, Satch, Opeth, SX, Nightwish, DTownsend,
by Michael & Pamela Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com>
8) Re: Why the new Satch is different
by Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
9) Re: New CDs
by schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
10) Rumor Mill
by Billy920@webtv.net
11) Re: Best of 02 (6DOIT, Satch, Opeth, SX, Nightwish, DTownsend, Soilwork, DTranquillity, Meshuggah)
by Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
12) RE: Rumor Mill
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
13) RE: New CDs
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
14) RE: Why the new Satch is different
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
15) RE: Dancing to Prog?
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
16) RE: Rumor Mill
by "Todd O. Klindt" <todd@klindt.org>
17) RE: Why the new Satch is different
by Jax <jax@ytseradio.com>
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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:30:07 -0500
From: Michael & Pamela Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: 6Doit CD2=junk?
Message-ID: <B957113F.2EDC%mnazer@pressenter.com>
on 7/14/02 9:39 AM, Barry Gilpin at gilpdawg@woh.rr.com wrote:
> Wow, I never thought I'd be the only one to post so far that I love both
> discs, but for different reasons. I love the experimentation of disc 1 and
> the sheer awesomeness of disc 2.
> -G
> gilpdawg@woh.rr.com
>
>
I think they are great too!! my favorite is disc 2. I think the part that
starts with the instrumental section of Goodnight kiss, than goes into
Solitary shell and than the intro to About to crash(reprise) is perfection.
I listen to that part over and over.
Pam
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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:32:59 +0200
From: Heike =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6deker <heike.boedeker@netcologne.de>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Dancing to Prog?
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20020714181651.009fcec0@nc-boedekan@pop3.netcologne.de>
>Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:51:07 -0400
>From: "Scott (Virtuality)" <ninja@mindspring.com>
>...
>I can't imagine the choreography needed to form a respectable and rhythmic
>dance to
>music shifting in time signatures from 7/8 to 3/4 through 5/4 and back
>into 11/8. It
>would be prodigiously intricate, and furiously entertaining at the same time
I've heard that the Parisian orchestra musicians who had the honor to first
play Stravinsky's stuff had some interesting psychosomatic reactions from
being stressed. Alas, I've heard nothing about the ballet guys who had to
perform "Le sacre du printemps"... But then, there is dance in African,
South and Southeast Asian musical cultures, too, which are amongst the
polyrhythmically baddest on the surface of this Earth.
Best,
Heike
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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:34:36 -0500
From: Michael & Pamela Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Best of 02 (6DOIT, Satch, Opeth, SX, Nightwish, DTownsend,
Message-ID: <B957124B.2EDD%mnazer@pressenter.com>
on 7/14/02 10:37 AM, Dave Peterson at razortag@yahoo.com wrote:
> I'll correct myself before someone else does.
> John Myung wrote all of 6DOIT'S CD2.
>
> Get a rope.
>
> - Dave
Hey Dave,
I'm confused, didn't Mike and JP write 1/2 each. Or were you joking?
Pam
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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:42:10 -0500
From: Mark Peters <epididymisle@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Why the new Satch is different
Message-ID: <3D31C602.F1FB5030@earthlink.net>
From: Dave Peterson <razortag@yahoo.com>
> Can I people specify in more detail why they're really liking
> Satriani's new CD, "Strange, Beautiful Music"? I really thought he
> hasn't written anything original in a decade and would love to hear
> that he's doing something different. Maybe he's been taking lessons
> from his student, Mr. Vai.
Well, he finally got good enough recording equipment at his home studio
to make his own album. I read an interview with him where he said he
felt more free to experiment since he never caught himself thinking
"Damn! I just spent another $1500 on that guitar solo!" Of course, you
still may not like the new album - it's still 13 Satriani instrumentals
and a cover tune with Robert Fripp. I would definitely check out clips
from the disc before you buy it, based on what you told me.
Take care,
Mark Peters
epididymisle@earthlink.net
PS - It seems that the folks who don't like disc 2 of 6DoIT are all in
ack mode, and the folks who do are in digest mode. Strange.
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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 12:38:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Peterson <razortag@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Best of 02 (6DOIT, Satch, Opeth, SX, Nightwish, DTownsend,
Message-ID: <20020714193807.86058.qmail@web10701.mail.yahoo.com>
I wasn't able to find the song credits on dreamtheater.net, so I tried
CDNOW.com and saw that Myung is given credit for all of Disc 2.
Obviously CDNow isn't the authority on who wrote what but I thought I'd
give them the benefit of the doubt.
It's very possible that I'm wrong about this. Anyway, my point was
only to get whomever is writing these corny lyrics (There's a girl on a
hill, etc., etc.) to knock it off. IMHO, obviously.
Come to think of it, it sounds right that JP and MP wrote CD2 of 6DOIT.
Peace!
- Dave (Dr. Teeth)
--- Michael & Pamela Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com> wrote:
> on 7/14/02 10:37 AM, Dave Peterson at razortag@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > I'll correct myself before someone else does.
> > John Myung wrote all of 6DOIT'S CD2.
> >
> > Get a rope.
> >
> > - Dave
> Hey Dave,
> I'm confused, didn't Mike and JP write 1/2 each. Or were you joking?
>
> Pam
>
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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:21:48 -0500
From: Michael & Pamela Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Why the new Satch is different
Message-ID: <B957559C.2EE3%mnazer@pressenter.com>
>
> Take care,
> Mark Peters
> epididymisle@earthlink.net
>
> PS - It seems that the folks who don't like disc 2 of 6DoIT are all in
> ack mode, and the folks who do are in digest mode. Strange.
>
>
Hey :)
I am in ack and I love disc 2!
Pam
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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:44:09 -0500
From: Michael & Pamela Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Best of 02 (6DOIT, Satch, Opeth, SX, Nightwish, DTownsend,
Message-ID: <B9575AD9.2EE5%mnazer@pressenter.com>
on 7/14/02 2:38 PM, Dave Peterson at razortag@yahoo.com wrote:
> I wasn't able to find the song credits on dreamtheater.net, so I tried
> CDNOW.com and saw that Myung is given credit for all of Disc 2.
> Obviously CDNow isn't the authority on who wrote what but I thought I'd
> give them the benefit of the doubt.
>
> It's very possible that I'm wrong about this. Anyway, my point was
> only to get whomever is writing these corny lyrics (There's a girl on a
> hill, etc., etc.) to knock it off. IMHO, obviously.
>
> Come to think of it, it sounds right that JP and MP wrote CD2 of 6DOIT.
>
> Peace!
>
> - Dave (Dr. Teeth)
>
> --- Michael & Pamela Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com> wrote:
>> on 7/14/02 10:37 AM, Dave Peterson at razortag@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> I'll correct myself before someone else does.
>>> John Myung wrote all of 6DOIT'S CD2.
>>>
>>> Get a rope.
>>>
>>> - Dave
>> Hey Dave,
>> I'm confused, didn't Mike and JP write 1/2 each. Or were you joking?
>>
>> Pam
>>
>
>
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This is straight from the cd booklet, Lyrics for About to Crash, Solitary
Shell, Losing Time, are by JP
War inside my Head, The test that stumped them all, Goodnight Kiss are by
Mike.
Pam
"Hi"
John Myung, 8/23/1998
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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:51:28 +0000 (UTC)
From: Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Why the new Satch is different
Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.44.0207142150330.29303-100000@sdf.lonestar.org>
On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Michael & Pamela Nazer wrote:
> > PS - It seems that the folks who don't like disc 2 of 6DoIT are all in
> > ack mode, and the folks who do are in digest mode. Strange.
> >
> >
> Hey :)
>
> I am in ack and I love disc 2!
>
> Pam
Hey :)
I second that!!! Ack mode, & lovin' disc 2!!!
-eric
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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:06:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: New CDs
Message-ID: <m17TrVl-000JltC@mail.interzone.com>
Vince wrote:
>
> I've been off the jam for about 3 years or so, and just re-subscribed.
>I was wondering what any of you would recommend for new CDs that have come
>out in the last year or two. My tastes are like Symphony X, Strato,
>Pantera, Awake-era Dream Theater, Metallica, etc. Any info is appreciated.
>
I'd highly recommend Superior's latest CD, Ultima Ratio. It has
some parts that remind me to Awake-era DT. Visit www.meet-superior.de
to sample and/or buy it.
Steve
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Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 00:47:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Billy920@webtv.net
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Rumor Mill
Message-ID: <19199-3D3253ED-1050@storefull-2118.public.lawson.webtv.net>
Hey Jammers,
I recently heard a couple of rumors and was wondering if anyone
has some info -----
First Al Pitrelli and Marty Friedman are getting some stuff together and
secondly I heard Yngwie Malmsteen and Kevin Moore are collaborating ????
That's kind of an odd couple but hey could be interesting.
Also I have played the absolute hell out of Avantasia The Metal
Opera since ordering it last summer, according to the liner notes part 2
should have been out already but I haven't seen or heard anything.
Anybody know what's up ? Am I just not looking in the right place ?
Oh Yeah as to the 6DoiT thread I dig both CDs very much. I
feel like it has some unique properties which illustrate that OFB are
moving forward and not getting in a rut by trying to duplicate past
bodies of work.
Now if only Type O Negative would put something out .......
Have a Day Y'all
Billy
np Nosferatu DVD ( silent movie organ soundtracks kick ASS )
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:25:02 +1000
From: Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
To: Dave Peterson <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Best of 02 (6DOIT, Satch, Opeth, SX, Nightwish, DTownsend, Soilwork, DTranquillity, Meshuggah)
Message-ID: <616401743.20040715172502@optushome.com.au>
DP> Regarding 6DOIT's CD2... Although it's still miles better than
DP> anything off of WDADU or FII, as soon as I heard the lyrics talking
DP> about another girl living on another house on another hill who's
DP> mentally unstable and has a loving father that just doesn't know what
DP> to do, I vomited in my own mouth.
Are you serious ?
6DOIT cd2 better than bonafide DT classics like 'The Killing Hand' and
'Only A Matter Of Time' ? FII has some killer material too and I'd
take those 2 albums anyday of the pile of shite which is disc 2.
DP> GOD I hope the new Symphony X is something different. They have SOOO
DP> fallen into a comfortable groove right now and it's getting tiresome.
DP> Please guys, something different this time? Ditto with Nightwish - is
DP> the new one different at all?
How different can SX really be then ?
I doubt if they can doing anything to different, I am not too fussed
as long as the quality is good.
New Nightwish, however is a little different to previous releases.
Tarja's voice is a lot less operatic, the music is a little heavier,
less fast songs, The most significant change is new bass player Marco
Hietala, who is also a great singer and contributes to 4 songs, with
some lead and backing vox.
DP> Also, can someone give specifics about the new Dark Tranquillity? I'm
DP> very interested in hearing what it's all about!
Official release in Europe is next week, if you like their previous
album, 'Haven', then you'll dig the new one. Pretty much similar in
style.
--
Best regards,
Graham mailto:gjboyle@optushome.com.au
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Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:47:38 -0500
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Rumor Mill
Message-ID: <3CEB2BD450223743A4895C0D0C5DFC3A01443D64@haxlcsechp0.healthaxis.dom>
Yeah, I read on the Metal Update not too long ago that The Metal Opera part
2 is completed and will be released soon. Hang in there!! I've also played
the heck out of that CD. It's greatness.
JM
-----Original Message-----
From: Billy920@webtv.net [mailto:Billy920@webtv.net]
I have played the absolute hell out of Avantasia The Metal
Opera since ordering it last summer, according to the liner notes part 2
should have been out already but I haven't seen or heard anything.
Anybody know what's up ? Am I just not looking in the right place ?
Have a Day Y'all Billy
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Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:07:25 -0500
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: New CDs
Message-ID: <3CEB2BD450223743A4895C0D0C5DFC3A01443D6C@haxlcsechp0.healthaxis.dom>
Yep, and hang in there a few months... Symphony X will have their new CD
released later this year.
Check out Symphony X's official LIVE CD as well. Very tasty material !
Oh, and DT released a new one not too long ago, too ;)
JM
-----Original Message-----
From: schew@interzone.com [mailto:schew@interzone.com]
Vince wrote:
>
> I've been off the jam for about 3 years or so, and just re-subscribed.
>I was wondering what any of you would recommend for new CDs that have come
>out in the last year or two. My tastes are like Symphony X, Strato,
>Pantera, Awake-era Dream Theater, Metallica, etc. Any info is appreciated.
>
I'd highly recommend Superior's latest CD, Ultima Ratio. It has
some parts that remind me to Awake-era DT. Visit www.meet-superior.de
to sample and/or buy it.
Steve
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Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:35:52 -0500
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Why the new Satch is different
Message-ID: <3CEB2BD450223743A4895C0D0C5DFC3A01443D96@haxlcsechp0.healthaxis.dom>
I third... I'm in single-message mode and CD2 rocks nadz..
JM
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric George [mailto:drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org]
On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Michael & Pamela Nazer wrote:
> > PS - It seems that the folks who don't like disc 2 of 6DoIT are all in
> > ack mode, and the folks who do are in digest mode. Strange.
> >
> Hey :)
>
> I am in ack and I love disc 2!
>
> Pam
Hey :)
I second that!!! Ack mode, & lovin' disc 2!!!
-eric
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Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:50:16 -0500
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Dancing to Prog?
Message-ID: <3CEB2BD450223743A4895C0D0C5DFC3A01443DB0@haxlcsechp0.healthaxis.dom>
Bob your head up and down and "raise your fist and yell!" :)
JM
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott (Virtuality) [mailto:ninja@mindspring.com]
I can't imagine the choreography needed to form a respectable and rhythmic
dance to
music shifting in time signatures from 7/8 to 3/4 through 5/4 and back into
11/8. It
would be prodigiously intricate, and furiously entertaining at the same
time, not to
mention worthy of surpassing the infamy of the Lambada (The Lambada? Thats
the
Forbidden Dance=!).
Scott Mosher - The VIRTUALITY CD
http://www.theambientmind.com/virtuality/
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Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:54:54 -0500
From: "Todd O. Klindt" <todd@klindt.org>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Rumor Mill
Message-ID: <005701c22c0f$948b8ba0$4164a8c0@klindt.org>
Just posting to say I'm another guy that loves Avantasia.
For those that like Avantasia, check out Edguy. Same guy at the helm.
Very similar sounding.
tk
-----Original Message-----
From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com] On Behalf Of
Souter, Jan-Michael
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:01 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: RE: Rumor Mill
Yeah, I read on the Metal Update not too long ago that The Metal Opera
part 2 is completed and will be released soon. Hang in there!! I've
also played the heck out of that CD. It's greatness.
JM
-----Original Message-----
From: Billy920@webtv.net [mailto:Billy920@webtv.net]
I have played the absolute hell out of Avantasia The Metal Opera since
ordering it last summer, according to the liner notes part 2 should have
been out already but I haven't seen or heard anything. Anybody know
what's up ? Am I just not looking in the right place ?
Have a Day Y'all Billy
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Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:06:27 -0500
From: Jax <jax@ytseradio.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: RE: Why the new Satch is different
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20020715100533.00a11670@mail.ytseradio.com>
At 09:51 AM 7/15/02, Jan-Michael wrote:
>I third... I'm in single-message mode and CD2 rocks nadz..
Add me to the 'in ack mode and loves disc two' group as well!
Jax :)
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