YTSEJAM Digest 6310
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Glass Hammer: Live and Revived
by Phil Carter <artoo@bellsouth.net>
2) Pier Six show - spoilers
by Ilia <painlessscream@yahoo.com>
3) Current (and increasing) Yahoo! Gripe...
by "Scott (Virtuality)" <ninja@mindspring.com>
4) Re: Pier Six show - spoilers (DT set list correction)
by Ilia <painlessscream@yahoo.com>
5) Baltimore show
by "Jason L. Gelnett" <jgelnett@comcast.net>
6) Re: Ordering from Metal Mayhem?
by "Brad Dixon" <brad@dtfaq.com>
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Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 18:46:53 -0400
From: Phil Carter <artoo@bellsouth.net>
To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Glass Hammer: Live and Revived
Message-ID: <4.1.20020907184322.009878c0@127.0.0.1>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids....
"D/J" remarked:
>[Glass Hammer's] limited edition album is back in print; by my mind,
>it's lightyears ahead of their studio stuff ;) it's in
>a Yes vein, and quite good to boot.
Not only that, but I've just put the finishing touches on a rather large
site update. Lots of information about the band's newest disc "LEX REX", as
well as their new hour-long video "This Way to Evermore", is now available;
streaming video, stills from recording sessions, background story,
interviews, and more, plus ordering information for both.
Thanks, D/J, I'll be sure to pass on your comments to the guys. They
appreciate it!
cheers,
Phil
-- Phil Carter -- artoo@bellsouth.net Webmaster, http://www.glasshammer.com/ "Without music, life is a journey through a desert." -- Pat Conroy------------------------------
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 16:13:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Ilia <painlessscream@yahoo.com> To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Pier Six show - spoilers Message-ID: <20020907231339.50102.qmail@web11304.mail.yahoo.com>
Hey everyone,
I've been away for a while on legal matters (or, rather, illegal matters, at least on my part) and have been catching up with my e-mails for the past two weeks. There have been many discussions that I would have liked to comment on, but at this point there is too much to say, so I'll just let be bygones be bygones.
Instead, I wanted to write about the DT/Satch show at Pier Six in Baltimore on the 6th. My friends have been kind enough to provide me with tickets, and even though the seats were as far as row JJ, we could see the stage really well.
We came at 7:30, when doors were announced, and turned out that they started half an hour early, so we missed King's X. So as we walked into the venue, expecting to see King's X (whom none of us have seen before) and the intro to Flying in a Blue Dream started playing.
Besides the songs from SBM, which I haven't heard yet, he played Cool #9, Satch Boogie, Summer Song, Raspberry Jam, Midnight, Starry Night, of the memorable ones. His technique was incredible, far more than I expected from him. The stage show was great, too - he was all over the place, his endless whammy bar and tapping tricks omnipresent. A lot of it was close to pure classification of shredding, traditionally speaking, but melodically speaking his composition, improvisational and prepared alike, are top-notch. The bass player, whose name I'm not going to attempt spelling, isn't quite Stu Hamm, but wasn't bad nonetheless. The rhythm guitar, in my opinion, was useless - when he played acoustic, you couldn't hear him at all, and when he was playing electric, he drowned out Satch.
The DT setlist was something like (I'm going to forget a few, I'm sure):
New Millenium, 6:00, WiMH/TtSTA, Great Debate, Instrumedley (Dance of Eternity spliced in-between parts of Metropolis Pt. I; Erotomania; aCoS; Paradigm beginning; Universal Mind ending; Ytsejam with soccer showdown between Petrucci and Myung; etc etc pretty much every instrumental song/section of song by DT that has had any sort of recognition in the pat), Surrounded, Learning to Live (encore)
Maybe some other ones, but nothing besides Great Debate off the first 6DoIT (and I don't care much about Great Debate, half the song is samples, it's not all that great live). Also, no TTT or PMU, no By-Tor or other covers, not a very large number of extended solos, not an extensive number of trade-offs between instruments. The whole set, for the most part, seemed like it was very much oriented around vocals/lyrics, and not so much around music. Weird for DT, afaic.
I must also mention that, even considering the poor acoustics of the venue (which I'm never going to visit again), the mixing was atrocious. There were pretty much no drums, and absolutely no snare drum. I couldn't make out a word LaBrie was saying, and only recognized lyrics because I know them all. Myung could only be heard in the sections where little other instruments were playing, but what else is new; technically, he was top-notch.
Portnoy was slacking. I mean, punk beats pretty much thoughout the whole instrumedley, certainly not worth having a drum set that big for all that.
Other than that, in terms of performance, they were pretty good. LaBrie was definitely on top of his game, and Petrucci was excellent as usual. Rudess was showing off a little too much, in my opinion - for example, in the reggae section of Learning To Live (the one they added as of LSfNY, I think), he came in with a lead so crazy that you couldn't tell the rhythm shifted for the first couple of seconds. Unfortunately, the whole thing sounded completely unmixed, and that pretty much ruined the show.
Also, I've decided that after this show, I'm going to avoid going to a show with DT that is at an open venue, or is shorter than 2 1/2 - 3 hours long. Although I was content, I was very let down by their overall presentation, both in terms of set list and sound quality.
On an unrelated note, I know I put out a best of DT survey earlier this year, but because I've been away for quite a while I haven't had a chance to analyze it. I will hop on that as soon as I do have that chance, and now that my main inbox is pretty much cleaned up (only about 100 non-spam messages remaining), I think that should happen soon enough.
Till another day,
- Ilia.
==== Always use the word impossible with the greatest caution. --- Wernher Von Braun
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Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 20:26:36 -0400 From: "Scott (Virtuality)" <ninja@mindspring.com> Subject: Current (and increasing) Yahoo! Gripe... Message-ID: <3D7A9931.3188FCD9@mindspring.com>
I just thought I had to bring this to the attention of my progressive and cyber brutha's and sisters. A quick little rant:
(insert this into current conversation) ... so, it's not bad enough Yahoo! has sold it's soul to advertisers, but apparently, also whatever integrity and what little cyber-dignity, and humility, it had as well. In addition to the PLETHORA of ad's RAMPANT throughout the Yahoo! sites and groups (often obstructing messages, and idiotically reflowing text in the most annoying fashion possible) all Daily Digests from Yahoo! Groups include what seems to be a third of a page of AD's at the TOP of the Email.
Oh, how the shades of advertising evil darken the world of cyberspace with malfeseance and heinous crimes against humanity! (Ok, I may have went overboard, but I think you understand the frustration and hostility towards these shameless panderings).
Just thought I'd drop some personal vitriolic venom towards these 'inocuous' little practices that they 'nonchalantly' feed into our fine little digests. I'm quite glad now that I don't get individual emails, otherwise, methinks my computer would've assaulted me for cruel and unusual and barbaric technological punishment... and it's infiltrating MY OWN group, too, as if I could make a concerted and vigilant stand against this practice.
Back to the program, Corporate Sponsors be damned!
- Your Friendly Neighborhood Allroundniceguy Scott Mosher - The VIRTUALITY CD http://www.theambientmind.com/virtuality/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theambientmind/
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 18:55:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Ilia <painlessscream@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Pier Six show - spoilers (DT set list correction) Message-ID: <20020908015552.77947.qmail@web11305.mail.yahoo.com>
OK, I remembered a couple more songs they did. Marked with *
New Millenium, 6:00, *Strange Deja Vu, WiMH/TtSTA, Great Debate, Instrumedley (Dance of Eternity spliced in-between parts of Metropolis Pt. I; Erotomania; aCoS; Paradigm beginning; Universal Mind ending; Ytsejam with soccer showdown between Petrucci and Myung; etc etc pretty much every instrumental song/section of song by DT that has had any sort of recognition in the pat), Surrounded, *Spirit Carries On, Learning to Live (encore)
I think that was all, in that order. Apologies for earlier inaccuracy.
- Ilia.
==== Always use the word impossible with the greatest caution. --- Wernher Von Braun
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Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 22:12:21 -0400 From: "Jason L. Gelnett" <jgelnett@comcast.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Baltimore show Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020907221104.028df6b0@mail.comcast.net>
I wanted to check and see if anybody recorded the Baltimore show last night. Great show, great time, and would love to get a copy. Thanks. Jason ---------------------------
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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 15:44:05 +1000 From: "Brad Dixon" <brad@dtfaq.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Ordering from Metal Mayhem? Message-ID: <000c01c256fa$c0210f40$0eba31d2@vic.optushome.com.au>
> I'm considering ordering some CDs from Metal Mayhem, cos I'm too > busy/lazy/don't work close enough to Utopia and I hate it when the CDs I > want aren't in. I noticed, while browsing their online catalogue, that they > don't list any Dream Theater CDs. I find this very curious :P Does anyone > know why they don't have any? Also, I've never ordered from here before, > does anyone have any good or bad comments about mail ordering from these > guys?
I'm not sure, but whenever I'm in there I always see 1 or 2 DT CDs. For a period of about a year, they NEVER had any, but since then there have always been at least one.
I ordered my Metropolis 2000 from MM, and it was at my house within 2 days of sending my money order. They use Express Post, so it's guaranteed to be speedy.
Brad.
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