YTSEJAM digest 6454

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Thu Feb 06 2003 - 06:50:59 EST


                            YTSEJAM Digest 6454

Today's Topics:

  1) Re: CD Purchases/Rush
 by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
  2) [Fwd: Forbidden Dreams]
 by Marcelo Muzilli <mmuzilli@ig.com.br>
  3) Re: CD Purchases/Rush
 by "Rick Rosinski" <rick@rosinski.com>
  4) Re: Random Question
 by Eduardo Ojeda <PuppiesOnAcid@softhome.net>
  5) Re: Random Question
 by Andrew Coutermarsh <andrew@acvox.com>
  6) Re: CD Purchases/Rush
 by Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
  7) Re: Random Question
 by Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
  8) Re: Random Question
 by Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
  9) arena?
 by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
 10) Re: CD Purchases/Rush
 by "Rick Rosinski" <rick@rosinski.com>
 11) Re: arena?
 by "Rick Rosinski" <rick@rosinski.com>
 12) Emerald Rose-- err, Green Carnation
 by "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@attbi.com>
 13) Re: CD Purchases/Rush
 by Chris <ccooney@comcast.net>

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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:58:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: CD Purchases/Rush
Message-ID: <20030205175833.65491.qmail@web13113.mail.yahoo.com>

"Antony Gelberg" <ag@antgel.co.uk> wrote:

> Everyone's gonna tell you something different. :-)
> Rush...Caress Of Steel (so underrated),

Ah yes. Caress of Steel, so forgotten, yet so
groundbreaking. 2112 gets credit for being the great,
often emulated "epic long" song. Yet Caress of Steel
came first, with "Fountain of Lamneth". A Change of
Seasons takes from Fountain of Lamneth (lyrical
theme).
I'm sure MP would agree to that.

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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 16:28:27 -0800
From: Marcelo Muzilli <mmuzilli@ig.com.br>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: [Fwd: Forbidden Dreams]
Message-ID: <3E41AC2B.3020604@ig.com.br>

  Hi everybody,
    Matt said me (this is in the email message below) that there is a
hub specializes in Dream Theater content.
    Where is this hub? What address? And what password to enter and
exchange some DT contents?

If you could help me, I will be greatful.

Thanks in advance

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Forbidden Dreams
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:12:22 -0600
From: "Matt Rose" <syrinx@sihope.com>
To: <mmuzilli@ig.com.br>

Hi Marcelo:
 
A Direct Connect hub was started a few months ago that specializes in DT
content. All of the users on it are sharing DT and various files. I
managed to download cds 5 and 6, as well as 1 and 2. If you get on this
hub, I'd be happy to share them with you.
 
I don't remember who you have to contact on the ytsejam torchsong to get
a password. Post on there that you'd like to get on there, and I'm sure
that the operator of it will reply to you.
 
Good luck!
Matt
 

-- 
Muzilli
UIN 1572797
mmuzilli@ig.com.br

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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 20:20:15 -0500 From: "Rick Rosinski" <rick@rosinski.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: CD Purchases/Rush Message-ID: <137e01c2cd7d$e8370080$6401a8c0@amd1>

> > Everyone's gonna tell you something different. :-)

You got that right!

I'm more of an "old" Rush fan. My favorite Rush CD's, in order, are:

1. Hemispheres 2. 2112 3. Rush 4. Permanent Waves 5. Fly By Night 6. Caress Of Steel 7. Moving Pictures 8. Signals 9. Grace Under Pressure 10. Roll The Bones 11. Presto 12. Power Windows 13. Counterparts 14. Test For Echo 15. Hold Your Fire

I don't have the new one, as I've been disappointed with newer Rush. I'll get it eventually...as long as it's cheap!

I'll rank the live CD's separately:

1. Exit...Stage Left 2. All The World's A Stage 3. Different Stages (mainly because it includes the CD of an older Rush concert) 4. A Show Of Hands

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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 23:27:07 -0300 From: Eduardo Ojeda <PuppiesOnAcid@softhome.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Random Question Message-ID: <p05100301ba6776a3a6a6@[216.244.255.229]>

>Where is this thank you drop out track?

I don't really know, its in a bootleg a friend of mine copied for me. Apparently, it contains live songs that were intended to go into OIAL but didn't make it. It includes:

- Eve - Speak To Me - LSOAD - Hey You (floyd) - The silent man (with a really cool extend "bluesy" solo) - Cover my eyes - Mean Street - Good bye yellow brick road (those last two are Elton John covers Derek picked for some show) - Anna Lee - To live forever (don't remember what version. I'm guessing '94) - Thank You (where the guys thank various fans all over the world) - Bad (I think its a U2 cover)

Is this just a random compilation or does it have a name?

- Edu

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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:58:01 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <andrew@acvox.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Random Question Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.50.0302052156440.45902-100000@samurai.ruin.org>

On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Eduardo Ojeda wrote:

> >Where is this thank you drop out track? > > I don't really know, its in a bootleg a friend of mine copied for me. > Apparently, it contains live songs that were intended to go into OIAL > but didn't make it. It includes: > > - Eve > - Speak To Me > - LSOAD > - Hey You (floyd) > - The silent man (with a really cool extend "bluesy" solo) > - Cover my eyes > - Mean Street > - Good bye yellow brick road (those last two are Elton John covers > Derek picked for some show) > - Anna Lee > - To live forever (don't remember what version. I'm guessing '94) > - Thank You (where the guys thank various fans all over the world) > - Bad (I think its a U2 cover) > > Is this just a random compilation or does it have a name?

This was the Fan Club gig at The Nighttown in Rotterdam, The Netherlands. It was recorded on June 22, 1998, three days before the OIALT concert, and is found on the Nighttown NOstalgia boot, or the 1998 Fan Club Christmas CD.

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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 03:02:44 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: CD Purchases/Rush Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.33.0302060241110.14507-100000@sdf.lonestar.org>

for an "old" Rush fan, especially with Hemishperes & 2112 at the top two slots on your list, i'm admittedly surprised that A Farewell To Kings is nowhere to be found. especially since it is the first half of the Cygnus X-1 epic (another mammoth song once it's all together) that you enjoyed so much in Hemispheres. but, as it was said earlier, everyone's gonna' tell you something different. :) -eric

On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Rick Rosinski wrote:

> I'm more of an "old" Rush fan. My favorite Rush CD's, in order, are: > > 1. Hemispheres > 2. 2112 > 3. Rush > 4. Permanent Waves > 5. Fly By Night > 6. Caress Of Steel > 7. Moving Pictures > 8. Signals > 9. Grace Under Pressure > 10. Roll The Bones > 11. Presto > 12. Power Windows > 13. Counterparts > 14. Test For Echo > 15. Hold Your Fire

-- "The least important things in life get the most appreciation. The most important things in life don't seem to get enough."

-me

Proud "Trillian" user http://www.ceruleanstudios.com AIM screename: Ryften13 drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org (text-based email) schnerck@hotmail.com -or- peruvian@dreamtheater.zzn.com (HTML-based email) SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org Progressive Musician's Forum - http://www0.org/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi#general

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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 03:12:13 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Random Question Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.33.0302060304070.14507-100000@sdf.lonestar.org>

those are all tracks off of the 2-disc live set "Nighttown Nostalgia", which was a live fanclub show in Rotterdam. i'm assuming that the "thank you" track you're refering to is the track #4 on the 2nd disc, in which DT thanks the crew & the fanclubs for their support, etc. incredible show, with the most beautiful version of LSOAD i've probably ever heard (you can catch it on the exerpts on the 5YIALT video). the whole show was real stripped-down (MP playing on a 5-piece), and with a friendly, light-hearted atmosphere from the band. they practically joke with each other or each other between almost every track. our boys in top form.

-eric

On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Eduardo Ojeda wrote:

> >Where is this thank you drop out track? > > I don't really know, its in a bootleg a friend of mine copied for me. > Apparently, it contains live songs that were intended to go into OIAL > but didn't make it. It includes: > > - Eve > - Speak To Me > - LSOAD > - Hey You (floyd) > - The silent man (with a really cool extend "bluesy" solo) > - Cover my eyes > - Mean Street > - Good bye yellow brick road (those last two are Elton John covers > Derek picked for some show) > - Anna Lee > - To live forever (don't remember what version. I'm guessing '94) > - Thank You (where the guys thank various fans all over the world) > - Bad (I think its a U2 cover) > > Is this just a random compilation or does it have a name? > > - Edu > >

-- "The least important things in life get the most appreciation. The most important things in life don't seem to get enough."

-me

Proud "Trillian" user http://www.ceruleanstudios.com AIM screename: Ryften13 drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org (text-based email) schnerck@hotmail.com -or- peruvian@dreamtheater.zzn.com (HTML-based email) SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org Progressive Musician's Forum - http://www0.org/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi#general

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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 03:15:01 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Random Question Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.33.0302060312510.14507-100000@sdf.lonestar.org>

oh yeah, almost forgot..........

On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Eduardo Ojeda wrote:

> - Mean Street > - Good bye yellow brick road (those last two are Elton John covers > Derek picked for some show)

the 2nd one is an elton john cover, but Mean Street is a Van Halen tune.

> - Bad (I think its a U2 cover)

yes, you would be correct.

-- "The least important things in life get the most appreciation. The most important things in life don't seem to get enough."

-me

Proud "Trillian" user http://www.ceruleanstudios.com AIM screename: Ryften13 drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org (text-based email) schnerck@hotmail.com -or- peruvian@dreamtheater.zzn.com (HTML-based email) SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org Progressive Musician's Forum - http://www0.org/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi#general

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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 22:39:06 -0500 From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> To: ytsejam newsletter <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: arena? Message-ID: <000c01c2cd91$4d0fac60$9b00a8c0@SHETZ>

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Anyone gotten a hold of the new Arena album? How is it? I'm trying to find it to buy online, but I think 14 pounds (like 20-22 bucks US) is a bit steep for a CD...

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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:58:30 -0500 From: "Rick Rosinski" <rick@rosinski.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: CD Purchases/Rush Message-ID: <004101c2cd94$02f74a90$6401a8c0@amd1>

> for an "old" Rush fan, especially with Hemishperes & 2112 at the top two > slots on your list, i'm admittedly surprised that A Farewell To Kings is > nowhere to be found. especially since it is the first half of the Cygnus > X-1 epic > On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Rick Rosinski wrote: > > > I'm more of an "old" Rush fan. My favorite Rush CD's, in order, are: > > > > 1. Hemispheres > > 2. 2112 > > 3. Rush > > 4. Permanent Waves

Oops! I forgot to include "A Farewell To Kings"...that shoulda been #5.

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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 23:00:26 -0500 From: "Rick Rosinski" <rick@rosinski.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: arena? Message-ID: <004b01c2cd94$48167380$6401a8c0@amd1>

> Anyone gotten a hold of the new Arena album? How is it? I'm trying to > find it to buy online, but I think 14 pounds (like 20-22 bucks US) is a > bit steep for a CD...

Are you in the USA or Canada?

The End Records (http://www.theendrecords.com) has it for $13 with FREE shipping (no minimum).

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Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 00:36:45 -0500 From: "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@attbi.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Emerald Rose-- err, Green Carnation Message-ID: <3E41F46D.1236@attbi.com>

> Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 00:17:31 +0000 > From: Oddvar Lovaas <ceeol1@cee.hw.ac.uk> > Subject: Re: Lod, DoD > > > > long as they've removed some of the more slow parts in the middle (i.e. the > > > female soprano). > >Sensible decision, there. :) > > well... I think it's a rather cool part, and could possibly be stunning if > performed live... however, it isn't an essential part of the song....

My friend Jim might disagree with you. As he put it: "B-B-B-B-ut...... THAT's the part after the Sun has gone out! It's REALLY important to the story!" :)

> > > as the band actually is from my hometown (as is Blood Red Throne) > >What city? > > Kristiansand, on the south tip of Norway.

Odd, I thought they were from Sweden.....as if there's a difference. :)

> (although I now reside in the city of Edinburgh)

Aye, 'tis a great city to, oh, flail around with a sword or two..... :)

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Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 01:56:15 -0500 From: Chris <ccooney@comcast.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: CD Purchases/Rush Message-ID: <057301c2cdac$d7bf4260$4ca85444@shlb1201.mi.comcast.net>

Well you've probably gotten every suggestion imaginable, and they're all good ones. :) Rush is just incredible! 17 albums and not a bad one in the bunch! :)

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