YTSEJAM Digest 6566
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Porcupine Tree news
by Mark Peters <epididymisle@earthlink.net>
2) Re: ytsejam agonizing
by Peter Geerts <petergee1@yahoo.com>
3) Re: RIP YTSEJAM and SB
by "Stephen Gervois" <sgervois@atmel.fr>
4) Re: RIP YTSEJAM and SB
by Andrew Coutermarsh <andrew@acvox.com>
5) RIP
by "Pierre Tessier" <PTessi@lacitec.on.ca>
6) RE: RIP YTSEJAM and SB
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
7) RE: ytsejam agonizing
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
8) Re: Porcupine Tree news...
by jtamale@goldengate.net
9) Re: RIP
by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
10) RE: RIP
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
11) RE: Instrumental Albums
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
12) Metropolis 3?
by Eduardo Ojeda <PuppiesOnAcid@softhome.net>
13) RE: RIP
by "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 03:52:48 -0500
From: Mark Peters <epididymisle@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Porcupine Tree news
Message-ID: <3EE990E0.BEF47262@earthlink.net>
From: "Karyn Hamilton"
>
> Porcupine Tree US tour dates...
>
Jul 08 2003 Tampa, FL, USA: Club Twilight
Jul 10 2003 Tallahassee, FL, USA: Floyd's
Jul 11 2003 Athens, GA, USA: 40 Watt Club
Jul 12 2003 Raleigh, NC, USA: TBC
Jul 15 2003 Toronto, Canada Opera House - with Opeth
Jul 16 2003 Montreal, Canada: Medley - with Opeth
Jul 17 2003 New York,NY USA: Irving Plaza - with Opeth
I guess this means that Opeth isn't going to play on the first four
dates. Hopefully I'm mistaken....
Take care,
Mark
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 02:33:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Peter Geerts <petergee1@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: ytsejam agonizing
Message-ID: <20030613093356.21874.qmail@web20804.mail.yahoo.com>
IIRC a number of years (3-4?) ago there was a big discussion about this
too. MP just started with his website and the forums were a big hit. So
a lot of people suggested that the Jam would become obsolete and that
everyone would turn to the forums (resulting in a big discussion about
the pros and cons of web forums vs. 'old fashioned' mailing lists,
ironically reviving the list at that moment).
I have to say that generally and think there's a lot more BS on both
the DT and MP forums than there ever was here (and I've been around
since 1997) and I concur with Jan-Michael in that when there is some
more DT news again, we'll be back on track.
Oh BTW now that I think of it: a number of years ago (again) some
people were fed up with the amount of BS on the *JAM*, and another,
moderated list was created (called Voices I think). Does that one still
exist?
Cheers
Peter
NP: Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
--- Alexis Ramos <Aramos@vivienda.gobierno.pr> wrote:
> It's sad to admit, but the ytsejam is definitely agonizing, and I
> don't think there's anything that will be able to save it. I've
> tried to post as often as possible in order to stir up conversation,
> but nothing seems to trigger any participation. I'm one of the
> people who have always preferred this email list over the internet
> forums, but I think I'm just going to have to deal with that. I'm
> staying here until the end; I'm not giving up all of my hope, but the
> chances of this list returning to its old form are slim at most.
> Goodbye ytsejam, you've been very good to me :-(
>
> Alexis
>
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:17:24 +0200
From: "Stephen Gervois" <sgervois@atmel.fr>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: RIP YTSEJAM and SB
Message-ID: <020301c33194$fc0c6f20$3cff9f0a@PCxxxx>
>> The new Spock's Beard is not out here in Europe until the 30th... What
>> are your first impressions jammers ? Is it a masterpiece ? After the
>> envagelisation of Neal is SB a second Genesis ? ;)
> It's not out HERE until July 3rd, I think.
Nice to see I got a reaction from the Jam, was kinda gettin worried...
Concerning the release dates of beards album sorry people I thought it was
out in the states on June 3rd...
I suppose I'll give you my thoughts on this album before then (on the 1st
July for example).
I wonder why CD's and DVD's are usually out in Europe first (remember SFNY
DVD) ... ? ...
Or maybe it's just an impression.
And my last note :
Andrew how the f**k did you get your hand on that whole Album ?
Are you one of the beards nephews or something ? ;)
until we meet again,
ACBLF
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 07:22:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <andrew@acvox.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: RIP YTSEJAM and SB
Message-ID: <20030613072144.D96699@samurai.ruin.org>
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Stephen Gervois wrote:
> Andrew how the f**k did you get your hand on that whole Album ? Are you
> one of the beards nephews or something ? ;)
Just lucky, I guess. :D No, I don't go searching newsgroups or anything
like that; I just know people, s'all.
-------------------------------------------------
Andrew Coutermarsh - http://www.acvox.com/
Email Address: andrew at acvox dot com
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"Never trust a spiritual leader who can't dance."
- Mr. Miyagi
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 08:06:09 -0400
From: "Pierre Tessier" <PTessi@lacitec.on.ca>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RIP
Message-ID: <see98601.093@email.lacitec.on.ca>
Hey (From Canada)
The list is pretty quiet recently, just like our Dream Theater is about
the new album, the web site offers no news, boring updates, no clips. So
much secrecy, maybe we can expect Metropolis part three...just a though,
or maybe they are planning to remake all the great hits from Abba.
Salut
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 07:34:59 -0500
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: RIP YTSEJAM and SB
Message-ID: <4642CF49B0BEB44386CA20BD34DC24380127CE3C@hhpech01.healthaxis.dom>
It's out there, just have to look for it. I grabbed it last night but
haven't listened to it yet.. Will do that over the weekend.
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Gervois [mailto:sgervois@atmel.fr]
Nice to see I got a reaction from the Jam, was kinda gettin worried...
Concerning the release dates of beards album sorry people I thought it was
out in the states on June 3rd...
I suppose I'll give you my thoughts on this album before then (on the 1st
July for example).
I wonder why CD's and DVD's are usually out in Europe first (remember SFNY
DVD) ... ? ... Or maybe it's just an impression.
And my last note :
Andrew how the f**k did you get your hand on that whole Album ?
Are you one of the beards nephews or something ? ;)
until we meet again,
ACBLF
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 07:42:51 -0500
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: ytsejam agonizing
Message-ID: <4642CF49B0BEB44386CA20BD34DC24380127CE3E@hhpech01.healthaxis.dom>
"TheMirror" on yahoogroups is still there, and Lisa does a fine job running
it.
JM
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Geerts [mailto:petergee1@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 4:59 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: ytsejam agonizing
IIRC a number of years (3-4?) ago there was a big discussion about this
too. MP just started with his website and the forums were a big hit. So
a lot of people suggested that the Jam would become obsolete and that
everyone would turn to the forums (resulting in a big discussion about
the pros and cons of web forums vs. 'old fashioned' mailing lists,
ironically reviving the list at that moment).
I have to say that generally and think there's a lot more BS on both
the DT and MP forums than there ever was here (and I've been around
since 1997) and I concur with Jan-Michael in that when there is some
more DT news again, we'll be back on track.
Oh BTW now that I think of it: a number of years ago (again) some
people were fed up with the amount of BS on the *JAM*, and another,
moderated list was created (called Voices I think). Does that one still
exist?
Cheers
Peter
NP: Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 09:41:46 -0500
From: jtamale@goldengate.net
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Porcupine Tree news...
Message-ID: <1055515306.3ee9e2aac1973@rain.goldengate.net>
Add July 26th at the Fine Line In Minneapolis to the list of tour dates....
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:41:11 -0400
From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: RIP
Message-ID: <002801c331ca$98f90fc0$9b00a8c0@mike>
Metropolis 3? I didn't think of that. Now my blood is burning waiting to
hear what they're coming up with :)
Any idea why they would be touring BEFORE the new album comes out?
Pierre, you live in quebec?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pierre Tessier" <PTessi@lacitec.on.ca>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:39 AM
Subject: RIP
> Hey (From Canada)
>
> The list is pretty quiet recently, just like our Dream Theater is about
> the new album, the web site offers no news, boring updates, no clips. So
> much secrecy, maybe we can expect Metropolis part three...just a though,
> or maybe they are planning to remake all the great hits from Abba.
>
> Salut
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:30:18 -0500
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: RIP
Message-ID: <4642CF49B0BEB44386CA20BD34DC24380127CED4@hhpech01.healthaxis.dom>
I kinda think it would be nice to have a few more CDs out before they tackle
Metropolis 3... Don't ya think ?
As to touring before the new CD arrives -- this is a great tour for both
bands.. QR making their comeback, and DT getting some great exposure...
Even both bands getting great exposure to each other's audience... It's a
win-win.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Shetzer [mailto:echo26@videotron.ca]
Metropolis 3? I didn't think of that. Now my blood is burning waiting to
hear what they're coming up with :)
Any idea why they would be touring BEFORE the new album comes out?
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:36:26 -0500
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
Subject: RE: Instrumental Albums
Message-ID: <4642CF49B0BEB44386CA20BD34DC24380127CED6@hhpech01.healthaxis.dom>
I didn't used to care for instrumental albums when I was younger, and then a
friend turned me on to Yngwie Malmsteen's first solo CD..
At that point, my musical tastes changed forever. I remember gathering
other instrumental guitarist albums such as Tony MacAlpine and that one with
the neon shark on the cover... can't remember his name... A friend of mine
had the entire Al Dimeola collection that I heard in the background while
working on computer stuff... There's greatness in instrumental albums
:)
Want a Hot Sports Opinion? Yngwie is the best thing to happen to Derek
Sherinian's new CD... there ya go :)
JM
-----Original Message-----
From: Dark Sol [mailto:darksol@inbox.ru]
Hello Synthision,
Thursday, June 12, 2003, 4:08:33 PM, you wrote:
S> Why did you use "BUT" in that sentence? ;-)
Because i don't like instrumental albums that much.And that's why i
don't dig Ayreon too :)))
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:06:39 -0300
From: Eduardo Ojeda <PuppiesOnAcid@softhome.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Metropolis 3?
Message-ID: <p05100302bb0fb49b653c@[216.244.219.223]>
Hmm, that would be really interesting. But Mike said that the new
album will be "classic metal"-like, so I doubt a themed
ultra-progressive thing is what they are doing. I just hope they make
their new stuff prog enough to be interesting (I usually get bored by
classic metal pretty quick)
- Edu
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 10:50:35 +1000
From: "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: RIP
Message-ID: <OPEJJAPFDGDMCLAHLLIMMEIJCPAA.ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
Hehe... well, that would certainly liven the list up :P Met 2 had jams
coming out my ears :P
As for Abba... I think they would have to get Derek back to do that..
Niall
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of
> Pierre Tessier
> Sent: Friday, 13 June 2003 10:40 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: RIP
>
>
> Hey (From Canada)
>
> The list is pretty quiet recently, just like our Dream Theater is about
> the new album, the web site offers no news, boring updates, no clips. So
> much secrecy, maybe we can expect Metropolis part three...just a though,
> or maybe they are planning to remake all the great hits from Abba.
>
> Salut
>
>
>
>
>
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