YTSEJAM Digest 6698
Today's Topics:
1) TOT -downloadable now?
by drummer519@att.net
2) Re: Re: The Umlaut makes it "heavy"
by "Simon Dodd" <simon@copperstream.co.uk>
3) Re: TOT -downloadable now?
by "Dave Schott" <admdave@qis.net>
4) Re: TOT -downloadable now?
by Andrew Coutermarsh <andrew@acvox.com>
5) RE: Vote now for As I Am
by "Ilia" <painlessscream@yahoo.com>
6) RE: 93X Voting
by "Dan Costello" <iluvatar@rochester.rr.com>
7) Re: TOT -downloadable now?
by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
8) Re: TOT -downloadable now?
by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
9) ytse-agreement?
by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
10) ToT Talk Banned
by Ryan P Skadberg <skadz@dreamt.org>
11) Re: ToT Talk Banned
by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
12) RE: ToT Talk Banned
by Niall Connaughton <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
13) Re: Vote now for As I Am
by "Nathan J Wilhelm" <wilh0038@umn.edu>
14) Re: Vote now for As I Am
by "Dave Schott" <admdave@qis.net>
15) YML Archive
by "Brad Dixon" <brad@xyonic.com>
16) QR's The Tribe
by "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@comcast.net>
17) Re: QR's The Tribe
by "Everonn" <progged@everonn.net>
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Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 21:44:21 +0000
From: drummer519@att.net
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: TOT -downloadable now?
Message-ID: <110620032144.26056.61a3@att.net>
I'm assuming that based on the threads on the Dream Theater and Mike Portnoy
forums that Train of Thought is now downloadable from the internet. It's too
bad everyone could just wait for the release date to come around. It really
wouldn't have been that hard to do. I for one, will not be downloading the
Dream Theater album and will be purchasing it on Tuesday Nov. 11.
Just my 5 cents,
Ben
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:14:34 -0000
From: "Simon Dodd" <simon@copperstream.co.uk>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Re: The Umlaut makes it "heavy"
Message-ID: <000e01c3a4b3$5c192980$0a00000a@tacitus>
> From: "Matt Rose" <syrinx@sihope.com>
> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
> Subject: Re: The Umlaut makes it "heavy"
>
> I bought it. It now joins the other coasters that are 'Hear in the Now
> Frontier' and 'Q2K'...
>
> Lame, slow songs with no fire or energy, and the musicianship sounds lazy
on
> it compared to previous efforst. I've officially given up on Queensryche
> now. Unless something quite extraordinary happens, they'll never get
> another dime from me.
>
> What does everyone else think?
I think that unless "As I Am" is singularly unrepresentative of Train of
Thought, I'll be in the same position viz a vis Dream Theater as you find
yourself with regard to QR.
~sjd
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:21:01 -0500
From: "Dave Schott" <admdave@qis.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: TOT -downloadable now?
Message-ID: <006901c3a4b4$433d8680$0200a8c0@Two>
Mine has been pre-ordered for a month now...
-Dave Schott (AdmiralDave)
admdave@qis.net
http://www.bangarangband.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <drummer519@att.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 5:02 PM
Subject: TOT -downloadable now?
> I'm assuming that based on the threads on the Dream Theater and Mike
Portnoy
> forums that Train of Thought is now downloadable from the internet. It's
too
> bad everyone could just wait for the release date to come around. It
really
> wouldn't have been that hard to do. I for one, will not be downloading the
> Dream Theater album and will be purchasing it on Tuesday Nov. 11.
>
> Just my 5 cents,
> Ben
>
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:24:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <andrew@acvox.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: TOT -downloadable now?
Message-ID: <20031106172239.W82116@samurai.ruin.org>
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 drummer519@att.net wrote:
> I'm assuming that based on the threads on the Dream Theater and Mike
> Portnoy forums that Train of Thought is now downloadable from the
> internet. It's too bad everyone could just wait for the release date to
> come around. It really wouldn't have been that hard to do. I for one,
> will not be downloading the Dream Theater album and will be purchasing
> it on Tuesday Nov. 11.
I don't understand what the big deal about waiting is. I mean, the people
who download it, the majority of them anyway, are going to be paying for
the album regardless. So it's not like the band's losing out on money.
Who cares WHEN you hear it? Release dates are nothing but stupid
marketing ploys anyway; for proof, just check out how upset Scholastic was
when a reviewer put the picture of the Harry Potter book in the paper (an
act, by the way, that was neither illegal nor immoral). They SUED because
the reporter "ruined their marketing strategy", which, last I checked,
wasn't even close to illegal.
-------------------------------------------------
Andrew Coutermarsh - http://www.acvox.com/
Email Address: andrew at acvox dot com
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It's my personal contention that guns cause crime
the way video cameras cause porn.
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:08:11 -0500
From: "Ilia" <painlessscream@yahoo.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Vote now for As I Am
Message-ID: <LJEJLFCHDEEHAGCHOFPHOEMCCAAA.painlessscream@yahoo.com>
> As I Am won!!!!! 73% to 27%. They will do this again tomorrow night,
with
> As I Am against a new song.
Yeah, Blink 182. DT has my vote... I'd give two if I had them.
Ilia
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:36:10 -0500
From: "Dan Costello" <iluvatar@rochester.rr.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: 93X Voting
Message-ID: <BOEAJJBDNFPALMNMJONIKEPBCFAA.iluvatar@rochester.rr.com>
>As I Am won!!!!! 73% to 27%. They will do this again tomorrow night, with
>As I Am against a new song.
haha, they're up against Blink 182 right now and crushing them by an even
greater margin. (77-22)
-Dan.
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Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 18:56:53 -0500
From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: TOT -downloadable now?
Message-ID: <000d01c3a4c1$a72ca470$9b00a8c0@mizz>
Yeah, i imagined it would be like that. When 6doit came out, I preemptively
downloaded it... shouldn't have. I'm gonna wait this year :)
----- Original Message -----
From: <drummer519@att.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 5:02 PM
Subject: TOT -downloadable now?
> I'm assuming that based on the threads on the Dream Theater and Mike
Portnoy
> forums that Train of Thought is now downloadable from the internet. It's
too
> bad everyone could just wait for the release date to come around. It
really
> wouldn't have been that hard to do. I for one, will not be downloading the
> Dream Theater album and will be purchasing it on Tuesday Nov. 11.
>
> Just my 5 cents,
> Ben
>
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Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 19:04:31 -0500
From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: TOT -downloadable now?
Message-ID: <004f01c3a4c2$b829e570$9b00a8c0@mizz>
Ok, I was gonna post this later but someone mentioned it already.
If you're pre-ordering from CD Universe, they're a bunch of tards so beware.
I ordered a CD and got an email "your CD has been shipped on 10/17"...
charged me five freakin dollars shipping when we all know shipping from
states to canada or states to states for a CD is 2 bucks MAX... the CD
arrived in a multiple-side-cracked case and had a sticker saying it was send
on 10/20. Not to mention I got it on 11/03 and I got another CD that day
from someone who mailed it to me from a neighboring state on 10/31. Either
the post office is filled with morons or CD universe is a crap retailer who
can suck my nuts. Or both, that's equally possible.
Needless to say, pre-ordering the new DT could mean I will prob get it about
10-14 days later, so screw that im marching to my local record store, it's
faster.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Schott" <admdave@qis.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: TOT -downloadable now?
> Mine has been pre-ordered for a month now...
>
> -Dave Schott (AdmiralDave)
> admdave@qis.net
> http://www.bangarangband.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <drummer519@att.net>
> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 5:02 PM
> Subject: TOT -downloadable now?
>
>
> > I'm assuming that based on the threads on the Dream Theater and Mike
> Portnoy
> > forums that Train of Thought is now downloadable from the internet. It's
> too
> > bad everyone could just wait for the release date to come around. It
> really
> > wouldn't have been that hard to do. I for one, will not be downloading
the
> > Dream Theater album and will be purchasing it on Tuesday Nov. 11.
> >
> > Just my 5 cents,
> > Ben
> >
>
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 19:17:38 -0500
From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: ytse-agreement?
Message-ID: <005f01c3a4c4$8d2fef20$9b00a8c0@mizz>
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Hey, I think it's only fair to post this...
It's inevitable that some or all of us will end up downloading ToT, so out of respect for the ones that won't download it, I think it makes sense not to post any references to the album until at least the release date. If, for some reason, that's too difficult for some people and you can't resist posting something, do everyone a favor to avoid the flames and put SPOILERS in big caps in your message subject and on the first line of your message.
The next 5 days will be a long wait :)
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Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 19:57:40 -0500
From: Ryan P Skadberg <skadz@dreamt.org>
To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: ToT Talk Banned
Message-ID: <1068166659.1751.1.camel@codewarrior.stigmata.org>
DO NOT talk about ToT until Tuesday. I know it is available out there
and I know plenty of people probably have it, but even things like
SPOILERS in the title does not work. So, please, wait the 5 days until
Tuesday and then we can debate about the disc until we're all blue in
the face.
Skadz
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Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 20:33:41 -0500 From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ToT Talk Banned Message-ID: <006d01c3a4cf$2cdf67d0$9b00a8c0@mizz>
Ha, Skadz I beat ya to it an hour ago ;)
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan P Skadberg" <skadz@dreamt.org> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:11 PM Subject: ToT Talk Banned
> DO NOT talk about ToT until Tuesday. I know it is available out there > and I know plenty of people probably have it, but even things like > SPOILERS in the title does not work. So, please, wait the 5 days until > Tuesday and then we can debate about the disc until we're all blue in > the face. > > Skadz > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ryan P Skadberg E: skadz@dreamt.org > Ytsejam Moderator U: http://www.dreamt.org/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > GPG fingerprint = 0B97 F771 E7D2 69B2 FF5C 5693 4E25 7E77 DEF0 CA4B > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >
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Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 13:19:57 +1100 From: Niall Connaughton <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: RE: ToT Talk Banned Message-ID: <OPEJJAPFDGDMCLAHLLIMCEMMDBAA.ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
INB4DALOCK!!!11! :P
> -----Original Message----- > From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of > Mike Shetzer > Sent: Friday, 7 November 2003 12:42 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: ToT Talk Banned > > > Ha, Skadz I beat ya to it an hour ago ;)
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:44:06 -0600 From: "Nathan J Wilhelm" <wilh0038@umn.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Vote now for As I Am Message-ID: <000b01c3a4d9$03c1b1f0$0d00a8c0@nathan>
They had Godsmack on 93X this afternoon and mentioned to them that Dream Theater beat their song. They then went into some DT bashing for a few seconds. I was surprised to find out that Godsmack even knew who they were. They complimented Mike as "a monster", but called James "gay" and proceeded to call anything with La in its name gay. They said that As I Am sounds like Incubus, or at least the ten second snippet that they heard. They definitely made me think higher of their music.... or not.
Nate
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> > Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:26:24 -0600 > From: Michael & Pamela Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com> > To: ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> > Subject: Vote now for As I Am > Message-ID: <BBCF0D70.4A57%mnazer@pressenter.com> > > Help As I am win over a godsmack song on 93X (Minnesota). They have a > contest between two songs and the winner goes up against a new song the next > night. They will be playing it a 9:00 tonight. Vote NOW. > > http://www.93x.com/cagematch.asp > > > Pam > > > "Hi" > John Myung, 8/23/1998 > >
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:52:09 -0500 From: "Dave Schott" <admdave@qis.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Vote now for As I Am Message-ID: <00c701c3a4ea$e6b4d8a0$0200a8c0@Two>
Incubus? Bad metal maybe... not even close to Incubus... not even for 10 seconds....
-Dave Schott (AdmiralDave) admdave@qis.net http://www.bangarangband.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan J Wilhelm" <wilh0038@umn.edu> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 9:42 PM Subject: Re: Vote now for As I Am
> They had Godsmack on 93X this afternoon and mentioned to them that Dream > Theater beat their song. They then went into some DT bashing for a few > seconds. I was surprised to find out that Godsmack even knew who they were. > They complimented Mike as "a monster", but called James "gay" and proceeded > to call anything with La in its name gay. They said that As I Am sounds like > Incubus, or at least the ten second snippet that they heard. They definitely > made me think higher of their music.... or not. > > Nate > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> > To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:31 PM > Subject: YTSEJAM digest 6697 > > > > > > Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:26:24 -0600 > > From: Michael & Pamela Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com> > > To: ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> > > Subject: Vote now for As I Am > > Message-ID: <BBCF0D70.4A57%mnazer@pressenter.com> > > > > Help As I am win over a godsmack song on 93X (Minnesota). They have a > > contest between two songs and the winner goes up against a new song the > next > > night. They will be playing it a 9:00 tonight. Vote NOW. > > > > http://www.93x.com/cagematch.asp > > > > > > Pam > > > > > > "Hi" > > John Myung, 8/23/1998 > > > > >
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 16:12:21 +1000 From: "Brad Dixon" <brad@xyonic.com> To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: YML Archive Message-ID: <001301c33172$c154d1a0$f6a61cd3@vic.optushome.com.au>
Can someone re-post the link to the YML back-issues? I accidentally deleted the email and the dreamt.org archive no longer exists. :(
Thanks, Brad
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Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 03:10:58 -0500 From: "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@comcast.net> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: QR's The Tribe Message-ID: <3FAB5392.51E3@comcast.net>
> >Has anyone checked out Queensryche's new release "Tribe" DeGarmo is > >supposedly back. Is it as rocking as it used to be?
Sadly enough, I think I prefer the TV show to the QR album. (!)
Correct me if I'm wrong, those who saw DT and QR in Atl., but I don't think QR played -anything- from Tribe at all. Did they?
I remember they played a new song during soundcheck, but did NOT play it during the show, which I kinda thought spoke volumes about the new CD.
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Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:08:33 -0500 From: "Everonn" <progged@everonn.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: QR's The Tribe Message-ID: <000801c3a551$c6845080$b5268bd0@ASIDOM.asifalcon.com>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, those who saw DT and QR in Atl., but I don't > think QR played -anything- from Tribe at all. Did they? > > I remember they played a new song during soundcheck, but did NOT play it > during the show, which I kinda thought spoke volumes about the new CD.
I can't speak to the Atlanta show, but I was at three other shows on that leg, and they played Tribe at each one of those...I can't imagine they'd have skipped songs from Tribe in Atlanta, unless there was some sort of technical problem for it.
If anything, though...I would think it speaks volumes about the extent of their back catalog, and yes...knowing that those who are into both bands are more likely to be old school Ryche fans. Anyhoo...they played *plenty* of the new album on their own tour, which was GREAT, by the way.
- Chris
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