YTSEJAM digest 259

From: ytsejam@bnf.com
Date: Sat Dec 04 1993 - 02:21:13 EST


Contents:
Re: DT single cd!!! (Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>)
Re: DT's religious overtones (Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>)
record show (hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>)
Jimmy the Geek (ASILVERM@umiami.ir.miami.edu)
Re: YTSEJAM digest 258 (khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson))
Re: YTSEJAM digest 256 ("Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>)
Re: Kings X vs DT ("Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>)
Re: YTSEJAM digest 258 (Stephen Bajzek <sb7h+@andrew.cmu.edu>)
Re: record show ("Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>)
Re: James Labrie...hmmmph!!! (William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>)
Re: DT single cd!!! (William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>)
Hey guys ... it WAS for real!! ("Jeff Boerio" <boerio@ichips.intel.com>)
LtL ("Michael E. Patrick" <71203.3457@CompuServe.COM>)
Re: re:YTSEJAM digest 254 (Martin A Hennemann <mh@acsu.buffalo.edu>)
Re: YTSEJAM digest 258 (Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>)
Re: record show (Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>)
Re: Jimmy the Geek (Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>)
current discog (Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>)
Re: 9. The interview 0:27 (Eric Crowder <madrigal@u.washington.edu>)
Gibraltar (Jourdan <joupet@homer.bethel.edu>)
Re: YTSEJAM digest 258 (William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>)
Stop that! No singing! (ASILVERM@umiami.ir.miami.edu)
Re: re:YTSEJAM digest 254 (ASILVERM@umiami.ir.miami.edu)

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 0:21:13 MST
From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
Subject: Re: DT single cd!!!

> I just read the latest discography in the last digest and I was wondering
> if anyone really knows what Eve is. One part said that it was the begging
> of Take the Time and one said it was the opening of Pull Me Under.

        Well, I'm afraid all I can do is make an educated guess on this
one, but based on the submitted material for the discog, I would say Eve
is a 1 1/2 minute instrumental that is slow, hard, with "crunch" guitars
by Petrucci and high-end lick by Moore. If you have the Live in Tokyo
video, it's right before Take The Time.

        Also to general Ytsejam readers... you all probably know more
about the releases than I do, so if you see a problem in the discog tell
me and I'll correct it. A lot of the stuff is submitted in email to me for
inclusion in the discog... I try to credit all sources.

        A few final notes "to all"
1. What's this about a 2-track promo live CD? And where to I mail to?
2. If Ytsejam is Majesty backwards... what's Bombay Vindaloo mean?
3. What the HELL is Approach? Saw it on one bootleg and that's IT.

Cheers...
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# # # # # # - Rush
# ### ### # # "Censorship is fucking unAmerican."
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 0:30:02 MST
From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
Subject: Re: DT's religious overtones

> The "New Age" theme is VERY BIG these days and is gaining converts
> rapidly. It is embraced by a large portion of the entertainment
> field, both in Hollywood and in the music world. The philosophy

        All the more reason to avoid it like plague! :) Boy, no better way
to look like you have integrity, than to imitate the latest hollywood
trend.. (shit-eating grin)

        Besides, if we liked trends... we would not like Dream Theater.

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# # # # # # - Rush
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 02:50:14 -0500 (EST)
From: hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
Subject: record show

I'm going to a record show this weekend (hopefully!) and I plan on getting
some cool DT stuff. My friend got the Dance of Eternity last time. It's
pretty cool. What other boots would you recommend? I saw somewhere that one
had a bass solo in it. Which one was this and was it good? I would also like
to hear James doing some more of the old songs. I would really like to hear
Status Seaker but I think that only on the cassette single, corect? I think
that one boot has Only a Matter of Time with James. Is this one good?

If you have suggestions or thoughts, could you please e-mail with them?!

By the time the digest comes out, it will be Sat. night and by the time I read
the responces it would be Sunday nigth (which would be too late, since I'm
going on SUnday). PLEASE E-MAIL!!

Jason Hartman

BTW - could someone please tell me how to send a file over the net using elm?

Thanks!

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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1993 03:11:21 -0500 (EST)
From: ASILVERM@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Subject: Jimmy the Geek

Hi,

        Hm, seems like LaBrie ain't too popular here on the net! Here's my
own personal experience with the band. I saw Petrucci and Portnoy at a
Meanstreak concert. Portnoy was really outgoing and seemed to be really
happy to talk to everybody. Petrucci was trying to avoid attention, and
seemed shy and quiet when I went up to him, but he answered my questions
and was friendly, if not outgoing.

                        Later,

                        Aaron
                        ASILVERM@UMIAmi

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 04:46:33 MST
From: khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson)
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 258

I also just got my Dream Theater Live promo. Thank you very much!! I've
never "won" anything in my life... This is great!!!!

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 03:54:20 -0800 (PST)
From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 256

> Interesting that you point out King's X to be a Christian band. I have been
> wondering about Christian or religios elements prevelant in Dream Theater's
> music. Look at Only a Matter of Time, Afterlife, etc.... One might argue
> "there are no answers from heaven above" in Take the Time, but that suggests
> to me that you can't look to above to answers to everyday questions, but to
> yourself. It doesn't suggest to me that they are saying that there is no
> heaven....
>
> Also in Status Seeker somewhere, and Surrounded, and a couple of other songs
> I have noticed a couple of relgious statements. I know Charles wore a cross
> and I believe Keven Moore does as well. It doesn't bother me if they are
> religous or aren't. Do any of you pick up on this?

Yea, I kinda got that slight impression from the I&W lyrics. It
doesn't bother me at all; I respect bands who can be subtle about
this, just as Myung's lyrics in "Learning to Live" are subtle....

-- 
Once you're touched you stand alone  |     Paul W. Cashman  
To face the bitter fight             |     vanyel@crl.com
Once I reached for love              |     Dream Theater 
And now I reach for life             | <-  "Learning to Live"

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 03:59:33 -0800 (PST) From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> Subject: Re: Kings X vs DT

> for too long. Oh yeah, btw, I think the name Kings X is a Christian > reference, the band uses religious images in some songs (the way U2 used to > when they were starting out).

King's X is a reference also to King's Cross, an Underground station in London. They are definitely Christian in origin. "Out of the Silent Planet" proves this. :)

-- Once you're touched you stand alone | Paul W. Cashman To face the bitter fight | vanyel@crl.com Once I reached for love | Dream Theater And now I reach for life | <- "Learning to Live"

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 07:41:54 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Bajzek <sb7h+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 258

Excerpts from mail: 4-Dec-93 YTSEJAM digest 258 by some cretin > > Listen to the second "verse" (where the sampled guy talks) in Eve. > Something about "guide us out to our lord Jesus, guide us out"

I believe it's, "guide us home..."

--max

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 04:20:44 -0800 (PST) From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> Subject: Re: record show

> BTW - could someone please tell me how to send a file over the net using elm?

elm -s <subject> addressee@site.domain < file.to.send

-- Once you're touched you stand alone | Paul W. Cashman To face the bitter fight | vanyel@crl.com Once I reached for love | Dream Theater And now I reach for life | <- "Learning to Live"

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 10:38:27 -0500 (EST) From: William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: James Labrie...hmmmph!!!

Excerpts from mail: 3-Dec-93 James Labrie...hmmmph!!! by A L. in Wonderland@tamsu > James:"What? Mike...you actually remember someone in the audience...I try to > look at them as little as I have to" (said in snotty voice)

you know, it might make you nervous to have to look at 15,000 people staring at you and screaming for 2 and a half hours.

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 10:47:27 -0500 (EST) From: William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: DT single cd!!!

Excerpts from mail: 4-Dec-93 Re: DT single cd!!! by Michael Bahr@indirect.co > Well, I'm afraid all I can do is make an educated guess on this > one, but based on the submitted material for the discog, I would say Eve > is a 1 1/2 minute instrumental that is slow, hard, with "crunch" guitars > by Petrucci and high-end lick by Moore. If you have the Live in Tokyo > video, it's right before Take The Time.

Eve is listed as the intro to Pull Me Under on DoE, and it's not that thing before Take the Time. It starts out kindof mellow, with some sampled speech of a guy going "Once upon a time, and a very good time it was, there was a moo cow ......". Whenever I hear that though, it sounds very familiar, but I can't remember what it is. I think it might be some tv show/movie theme song (Not Mission Impossible). Maybe the guy in europe who has all those videos and bootlegs could figure it out, since I seem to remember one of them having several tv show instrumentals.

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 17:45:54 -0800 (PST) From: "Jeff Boerio" <boerio@ichips.intel.com> Subject: Hey guys ... it WAS for real!!

Man,

I got this package in the mail today, and it was really weird. For the life of me, I couldn't figure out WHERE this CD came from!! Then it hit me!! That response I made to the mailing list!! I got the CD!!

It's awesome!! Thanks dude!!!

- Jeff

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Date: 04 Dec 93 12:06:27 EST From: "Michael E. Patrick" <71203.3457@CompuServe.COM> Subject: LtL

One word on those who say that if LtL is about the general subject of AIDS then it's poorly written since that connection doesn't immediately come across. If you need to get hit over the head with a freakin' baseball bat to have a song make sense - go listen to someone else. Myung is not campaigning for public office - he can be as ambiguous as he likes.

Don't burst blood vessels sweating the meanings - there won't be any test on it.

Mike

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 13:20:17 -0500 From: Martin A Hennemann <mh@acsu.buffalo.edu> Subject: Re: re:YTSEJAM digest 254

>> Well, I was told King's X was supposed to be good, and similiar to DT. >> So I bought Gretchen goes to Nebraska. And I personally think it sucks. > How dare you!! :) Whoever said that King's X was similar to DT is way > off the mark. King's X aren't wild progressive/art metal like DT is. I > think we figured this out already.... >> However, in their defense, I talked to some people, and they said that their >> older stuff is better (Nebraska was done in 89) So I dunno. But from the >> 1 I heard, I didn't like it. > Huh?? I like the newer stuff better. Do you like heavier music, or > what?? Faith Hope Love, which is their third album (right after Gretchen) > is pretty cool, but fairly mellow. It's got som e great tunes on it. However, > if you want full tilt, get the self-titled album. It rocks pretty well. The > production is a lot better than Gretchen, too. I'm not really into heavy stuff. Which is why I'm a big DT/Queencrych/ Fates Warning fan. (BTW, I just ordered Night on Brocken by Fates Warning. Havn't gotten it in yet. Any comments on it? :) Do you think that X's 3rd album would suit me more then Gretchen? Cos I guess I could tryto listen to another one... (what's 10 bucks? ;) Chris

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 12:58:37 MST From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 258

> > I also just got my Dream Theater Live promo. Thank you very much!! I've > never "won" anything in my life... This is great!!!! > >

Hey how are you guys getting these?? I missed it, I want one! :)

Mike/garion@indirect.com

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 13:02:08 MST From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> Subject: Re: record show

> pretty cool. What other boots would you recommend? I saw somewhere that one

The Images & Tour! boot is good because it's sound board tapes (I FINALLY got an original of this one, and I put the new liner notes in a revision of the discography, to follow) and the tapes are of very high quality. My only complaint about it is that they must have run out of tapes or something because they snuck in "Bombay" from LATM, and it dosen't really fit into the show.

> had a bass solo in it. Which one was this and was it good? I would also like > to hear James doing some more of the old songs. I would really like to hear > Status Seaker but I think that only on the cassette single, corect? I think > that one boot has Only a Matter of Time with James. Is this one good?

I NEED to find that cassette single... it was submitted as an entry to the original discog I was doing a while back, but I never did find a copy. I don't know any other boot that has Status Seeker live. If we can get that, then only one DT song will not have been recorded live... The Ones Who Help.. etc.

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 13:02:52 MST From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> Subject: Re: Jimmy the Geek

> Hm, seems like LaBrie ain't too popular here on the net! Here's my > own personal experience with the band. I saw Petrucci and Portnoy at a > Meanstreak concert. Portnoy was really outgoing and seemed to be really > happy to talk to everybody. Petrucci was trying to avoid attention, and > seemed shy and quiet when I went up to him, but he answered my questions > and was friendly, if not outgoing.

Portnoy is a blast... you can just tell from the video that it's him and Kevin Moore who are having all the fun... so to speak.

Mike/garion@indirect.com

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 13:05:28 MST From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> Subject: current discog

------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___ _ _ ___ _ ___ _ _ | \| >|_ /\ |\/| | |_||_ /\ | |_ | > _|_/| \|_/ \| | | | ||_/ \ | |_ | \ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Discography: Dream Theater (Current to 12/04/93) Compiled by: Mike Bahr (garion@indirect.com) (garion#hack)

If you find more from Dream Theater, please do mail me. I'll gladly update this file. I am sending this to ftp.uwp.edu; please refer to the most current version on that site.

I'm not perfect. But I'm trying to be as accurate as I can. If you can help me to that end with this discography, I appreciate it.

I try to get a copy of everything listed here, with exception of some of the bootlegs I do own them all. If you find new albums, etc please mail me! Not only will I credit you here but I want to buy the things. :)

A word of thanks goes here to the dozen-odd folks who wrote to me with needed changes. Since I lost my old account (aumpb@asu.edu) I need you to write me back at garion@indirect.com and tell me who you were, I want to give name credit in this discography.

Many thanks to the following for their additions and corrections: * Randall Haskin (strega@stien1.u.washington.edu) This guy has done everything short of the editor's job on this thing. He's given me additional release info (Dance of Eternity CD) and corrected an assortment of minor mistakes I made in the original. Seems he keeps finding new things to add as well. Many thanks go here.

* Brent Nuttall (elric@indirect.com) For information pertaining to the various releases of "Live At The Marquee" and finding me a copy. Also video title information.

* Dave (dld30@quts.ccc.amdahl.com) For information pertaining to the Consciously Unreal bootleg, including liner notes etc. Many thanks!

* Michael Burstin (Mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu) For information pertaining to Majesty and the Live video. In fact, for a whole hell of a lot of stuff that I may never count completely.

* Todd Henson (thenson@mason1.gmu.edu) For some stuff about the "Another Day" singles and related misc.

LEGEND: LP - Record; CT - Cassette; CD - 5" Compact Disc; MD - 2.5" Mini Disc C3 - 3" Compact Disc - CS - Cassette Single; 2CD - Double CD set; V - Video

Full discography to OFFICIAL RELEASES: Majesty demos, 1986-89, Not produced. When Dream And Day Unite, 1989, MCA/Mechanix (France, Germany Only) LP, CT, CD Images & Words, 1992, Atlantic/ATCO (USA) CT, CD, MD Images & Words, 1993, Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) LP, CT, CD Images & Words, 1993, Vertigo/Biem/Stemra (Germany, Holland, UK) LP, CD Another Day/Status Seeker, 1993, WEA International (UK Only?) CS Another Day/Under A Glass Moon, 1993, Atlantic/ATCO (USA) CS Pull Me Under, 1993, ATCO Promotional (USA) CD Pull Me Under, 1993, AVision ATCO (USA) V Take The Time, 1993, ATCO Promotional (USA) CD Another Day, 1993, ATCO Promotional (USA) CD Under A Glass Moon, 1993, ATCO Promotional (USA) CD Surrounded, 1993, ATCO Promotional (USA) CD Live At The Marquee, 1993, WEA International (Germany, Holland, UK) CD Live At The Marquee, 1993, MMG Inc. (Japan) CD Images & Words Live In Tokyo, 1993, AVision ATCO (USA) V

CONFIRMED BOOTLEGS: A Fortune Pulled Under, 1992, LP (USA) Live cuts from early promotional touring after the release of Images & Words. Images & Tour!, 1993, CD (USA) Sound board tapes. See entry for further details. Runes, 1993, CD (USA) A passable recording of a portion of the second leg of the Images & Tour Tour. The Dance Of Eternity, 1993, 2CD (USA) An excellent-quality audience recording from about the same time as Images & Tour! was done. Near-soundboard clarity. Great disc pictures and liner, professionally done. Consciously Unreal, 1993, 2CD (Italy) The only bootleg with the original DT lineup live. Includes a boot from the Images tour and a few tracks from the first, When Dream and Day Unite, tour. Liner notes say it's USA but James LaBrie makes statements during the performance that indicate they are in Italy. RELEASE INFO ----------------------------------------

the Majesty demos, 1986-89 (Not produced.) Before they were Dream Theater, they were Majesty. Included on their demo tapes are the following:

-1986- -1987- Another Won Afterlife Your Majesty "Death of Spock" A Vision The Ytse Jam (Majesty backwards) Two Fat The Killing Hand Vital Star Cry for Freedom March of the Tyrant -1988- A Late Summer Rain --> Mission Impossible Theme Schizophrenia The Golden Weight

And the demos without a home: Heuristica Dream Theater (yes, it was a song before it was a band!) Metropolis part I: The Miracle and the Sleeper

Anyone with a reliable source for these recordings, please contact me at the address above... I want to get them...

When Dream And Day Unite, 1989, MCA/Mechanix, France, Germany only MCD42259/MCAD42259/D:QM-F:BM720 Members of the band: Vocals: Charlie Dominici Drums: Michael Portnoy Guitars: John Petrucci Keyboards: Kevin Moore Bass: John Myung

Side 1 - 1. A Fortune In Lies 5:10 2. Status Seeker 4:15 3. The Ytse Jam 5:43 4. The Killing Hand 8:40 I. The Observance II. Ancient Renewal III. The Stray Seed IV. Thorus V. Exodus Side 2 - 5. Light Fuse and Get Away 7:23 6. Afterlife 5:27 7. The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun 8:04 8. Only a Matter of Time 6:35

Images & Words, 1992, Atlantic/ATCO, USA 7567-92148-2 Members of the band: Vocals: James LaBrie Otherwise same

Side 1 - 1. Pull Me Under 8:11 2. Another Day 4:22 3. Take The Time 8:21 4. Surrounded 5:28 Side 2 - 5. Metropolis Part I (The Miracle and the Sleeper) 9:30 6. Under a Glass Moon 7:02 7. Wait For Sleep 2:31 8. Learning to Live 11:30

Images & Words, 1993, Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) Need a catalog # (mine is a copy) Images & Words, 1993, Vertigo/Biem/Stemra (Germany, Holland, UK) Need a catalog # (mine is a copy) Identical to USA version except extra track on Vertigo release: 5. The Ytse Jam (Live) 9:36 Tracks #5-8 on USA version renumbered to #6-9 here.

Another Day, 1993, WEA International, UK Only? Confirmation anyone? Need a catalog # (submitted as entry, I don't own it) Cassette Single

Side 1 - Another Day (LP Version) 4:22 Side 2 - Status Seeker (Live) 4:28

Another Day, 1991, Atlantic/ATCO, USA ATCO 4-98415 Cassette Single

Side 1 - Another Day (LP Version) 4:22 Side 2 - Under A Glass Moon (LP Version) 7:02

Pull Me Under, 1993, ATCO Promotional (USA) PRCD 5067 CD Single

Pull Me Under (Edit) 4:39 Pull Me Under (MTV Edit) 4:48 Pull Me Under (LP Version) 8:11

Pull Me Under, 1993, AVision ATCO (USA) Need a catalog # (submitted as entry, I don't own it) Video

Pull Me Under (MTV Edit) 4:48 Pull Me Under (LP Version) 8:11

Take The Time, 1993, ATCO Promotional (USA) PRCD 5069 CD Single

Take The Time (MTV Edit) 5:31 Take The Time (LP Version) 8:21

Another Day, 1993, ATCO Promotional (USA) PRCD 5077 CD Single

Another Day (LP Version) 4:21

Under A Glass Moon, 1993, ATCO Promotional (USA) PRCD 5080 CD Single

Under A Glass Moon (LP Version) 7:02

Surrounded, 1993, ATCO Promotional (USA) PRCD 5104 CD Single

Surrounded (LP Version) 5:29

Live At The Marquee, 1993, WEA International (Germany, Holland, UK) 7567-92286-2/CA 835 CD EP Recorded in London, England, UK, April 1993

Metropolis 9:36 A Fortune In Lies 5:10 Bombay Vindaloo 6:48 Surrounded 6:00 Another Hand/The Killing Hand 10:30 Pull Me Under 8:42

Live At The Marquee, 1993, MMG Inc. (Japan) ACM4-574 CD EP Identical to Germany/Holland/UK version Except: Substitute track: 4. Another Day 4:37

Images & Words Live In Tokyo, 1993, AVision ATCO (USA) 50537-3 Full-length video release (need times)

1. Arrival 0:31 2. Under A Glass Moon (live) 7:13 3. The making of Pull Me Under 3:03 4. Pull Me Under (video) 4:48 5. The making of Take The Time 2:15 6. Take The Time (video) 5:31 7. Kimonos and tapes that are too big 3:01 8. The condoms of Dream Theater 1:02 9. The interview 0:27 10. Wait For Sleep (live) --> 2:45 11. Surrounded (live) 5:54 12. The Ytse Jam/Drum Solo (live) 10:28 13. Balls and chunk are where it's at 0:51 14. Another Day (video) 4:29 15. To Live Forever/Freeform (live) 12:05 16. A Fortune In Lies (live) 5:00 17. Mike crosses the Abbey Road 1:11 18. Eve/Take The Time (live) 10:32 19. Take The Time by Galactic Cowboys 0:29 20. Take The Time by Sebastian Bach 0:25 21. Breast signing 0:50 22. Pull Me Under (live) 8:29

BOOTLEG INFO -------------------------------------- A Fortune Pulled Under (USA) 1992, LP Need a mfr. and catalog # (it was submitted) 1 LP Recorded in Paris, France, October 1992 Side 1 - Take The Time Afterlife The Ytse Jam/Drum Solo Only a Matter of Time Side 2 - Guitar Solo/A Fortune In Lies Under a Glass Moon Surrounded Pull Me Under

*** I Need to know who is currently vending this. I have had requests for copies which I intend to provide, and a copy of a copy of an LP that was a bootleg to begin with turns out as pretty sorry quality.

Images & Tour! (USA) 1993, CD (Big Red Records #48733-DT) 1 CD Recorded from soundboard evaluation tapes (unknowingly?) provided by the band itself.

Dance of Eternity 9:46 (Metropolis mislabeled) A Fortune In Lies 5:02 -London Under a Glass Moon 7:15 -Tempe The Approach/Bombay Vindaloo (mislabeled?) 7:08 -Salt Lake City Waits For Sleep (mislabeled the "s" in Wait) 2:44 Surrounded 6:10 -Philadelphia Instrumental/Drum Solo 10:53 (Ytse Jam mislabeled) -Bonn To Live Forever 4:50 Guitar Solo 7:20 -Portland Eve/Take The Time (mislabeled?) 10:31 -Tokyo Pull Me Under 8:35 -London

*** Corrected: A Fortune In Lies is track #2, not Afterlife as previously noted. I finally got an original of this one and confirmed this. The vendor is Tracks In Wax, N. Central Ave, Phoenix, AZ. A whole show is not included; absent is Learning to Live and Another Hand/The Killing Hand.

Runes (USA) 1993, CD (The Camera's Ear Productions, #9103) 1 CD Recorded in Sacramento, CA, USA, no date given. Can be distinguished by lack of good bass in the first three tracks. (cuts right to song, no fade-in) Metropolis Under A Glass Moon To Live Forever Wait For Sleep Surrounded A Fortune In Lies Take The Time Pull Me Under Learning To Live (cuts off after last chord)

*** I need to know who is vending this.

The Dance of Eternity (USA) 1993, 2CD (Why Not? Records WOT2014/15) 2 CD's - further notes above in description section Recorded at the Limelight, New York, March 4 1993 Disc 1 Metropolis, part 1 9.21 A Fortune In Lies 5.20 Under A Glass Moon 7.31 Surrounded 6.16 The Ytse Jam 9.46 To Live Forever 5.57* Take The Time 10.42 Disc 2 Eve/Pull Me Under 13.59 Another Day 6.39 Another Hand/The Killing Hand 8.20 A Change Of Seasons 20.04 Wait For Sleep 2.52 Learning To Live 13.14

*Since the only source on the true identity of this song would appear to be the LIT video, we'll follow suit here.

*** Every importer/specialty shop I inquired at indicated they could obtain copies of this, so you should have no trouble.

Consciously Unreal (Italy) 1993, 2CD Need mfr. and catalog # (it was submitted) Tracks 1-11 recorded in Italy during the Images & Tour tour. LaBrie on vocals. Tracks 12-16 recorded during the Dream & Day tour, Dominici vocals. Disc 1 Metropolis part I A Fortune In Lies Under A Glass Moon Surrounded The Ytse Jam/Drum Solo Another Day The Killing Hand Pull Me Under Take The Time

Disc 2 Wait For Sleep Learning To Live ----------------- Metropolis part I Afterlife Forever The Ytse Jam The Killing Hand

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 13:15:01 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Crowder <madrigal@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: 9. The interview 0:27

I had a Japanese exchange student friend of mine translate what the Japanese girl says durring The Intterview. This is the translation.....

"I know you will do well in Japan, do your best! Good Luck."

Kevin's fake translation was a little more humorous IMHO.

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 15:59:33 -0600 From: Jourdan <joupet@homer.bethel.edu> Subject: Gibraltar

Seeing as there were two posts regarding the Gibraltar digest in yesterday's Ytsejam, here's some info. Gibraltar is a weekly digest which contains reviews and other sources for progressive rock. It is also a good source for tour dates. Most of the bands focused on are lesser known than the common DT, Rush, Genesis, etc. mail gib@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu to subscribe. Pete

Peter Jourdan Where would you rather be? joupet@bethel.edu Anywhere but here rhenmar@iastate.edu -Rush, Double Agent

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 23:36:08 -0500 (EST) From: William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 258

Excerpts from mail: 4-Dec-93 Re: YTSEJAM digest 258 by Stephen Bajzek@andrew.cm > I believe it's, "guide us home..."

whatever. same thing

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Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1993 02:17:16 -0500 (EST) From: ASILVERM@umiami.ir.miami.edu Subject: Stop that! No singing!

OK guys, I see a new slew of people asking about the promo CD's that were sent out. Sorry guys, someone had a few of them and gave 'em all out. He's just receiving his well-deserved thanks's. I don't mean to be rude or anything,but my mailbox is starting to fill up with questions about where to get the CD!

Party on,

Aaron ASILVERM@UMIAMI

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Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1993 02:27:27 -0500 (EST) From: ASILVERM@umiami.ir.miami.edu Subject: Re: re:YTSEJAM digest 254

You said you're not into heavy stuff, that's why you like Fates Warning????? If Night On Brocken is anything like their other early stuff, you may not enjoy it too much! By the way, WHERE'D YOU ORDER IT FROM? I want it! (And Spectre Within, & No Exit. . .)

Aaron

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