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RE: discog (Just call me Goober!! <SCRIVANO_GAR@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>)
Re: Mailing addresses (parkerma@po.NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu)
RE: Let's compile the COMPLETE "Images & Words" tour dates!!! (jakaroub@excel.uccs.edu)
Re: YTSEJAM digest 233 ("Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>)
Steve Bajzek (BLTSBARRY@VAX.LIVERPOOL-JOHN-MOORES.AC.UK)
Question] (csc3mad@cabell.vcu.edu (Michael A. Daugherty))
Re: Let's compile the COMPLETE "Images & Words" tour dates!!! (smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve Mansfield))
Re: Let's compile the COMPLETE "Images & Words" tour dates!!! (smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve Mansfield))
Re: discog (MF1788%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU)
Portnoy and album.. (MF1788%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU)
Live video... (hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>)
Re: tour dates (Tigger <GREG@POMONA.CLAREMONT.EDU>)
Stuff ("Michael E. Patrick" <71203.3457@CompuServe.COM>)
Addition to '93 tour date list (twyse@acpub.duke.edu (Timothy Wyse))
Re: discog (Matthew P Jennings <mpj@christa.unh.edu>)
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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 23:59:45 -0500 (EST)
From: Just call me Goober!! <SCRIVANO_GAR@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>
Subject: RE: discog
I would like to know where you got some of those copies esp the live
ones in California, Arizona, and Paris France. I have all the other
ones listed (except for the cd singles). I'd like to get my hands on
them. Also I was wondering how much you paid for those discs individually.
please send me info to my e-mail address which is scrivano_gar@csusys.ctstate.
(oops I messed up the part of ctstate. should be ctstateu.edu)
later, Gary
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 02:01:23 -0500
From: parkerma@po.NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu
Subject: Re: Mailing addresses
Just a note on this...
Do you think it is wise to be giving out
these address without the band members'
consent? There is such a thing as privacy.
Personally, I'd be a little miffed if someone
went around handing my address to complete
strangers (though I might actually get some
mail then ;) ) There is a reason why fanmail
generally goes to a dead-letter office -
there is way too much of it to read. If DT
took the time to read each letter that was
sent to them by fans, I'd say there would be
a danger of no new album, just because they
wouldn't have as much time to work on it.
True, YTSEJAM is not the DT fan-world at large,
but it could very easily get out to those
who would distribute it far and wide.
To whomever is friends with John, you might
consider waiting 'til the band gets back from
tour, or asking the parents to ask him
in the event he calls home. This can keep
a few people from getting mad.
Mark Parker
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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1993 00:06:53 MST
From: jakaroub@excel.uccs.edu
Subject: RE: Let's compile the COMPLETE "Images & Words" tour dates!!!
I added some 1992 October and November dates from a promo tour list
that ATCO sent me long ago.... I also fixed and added information to shows
in my area(CO). Here we go...
Month Day City, State (Country) Venue
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*** 1992:
Oct 01 Cohoes, NY
Oct 02 Ithaca, NY
Oct 03 Mansfield, PA
Oct 04 Deer Park, NY Sparks
Oct 06 Washington, DC
Oct 07 Boston, MA Axis
Oct 08 Montreal, QUE
Oct 09 Scarborough, ONT
Oct 10 Rochester, NY
Oct 11 Syracuse, NY
Oct 13 Cincinnati, OH
Oct 14 Fort Wayne, IN
Oct 15 Detroit, MI
Oct 16 Columbus, OH
Oct 17 Cleveland, OH
Oct 18 Grand Rapids, MI
Oct 20 Dayton, OH
Oct 21 Chicago, IL
Oct 22 Greensfield, WI
Oct 24 Minneapolis, MN
Oct 29 New Orleans, LA
Oct 30 Houston, TX
Nov 01 Dallas, TX
Nov 04 Colorado Springs, CO Rack N' Roll
Nov 05 Denver, CO Gothic Theatre
Nov 06 Salt Lake City, UT
Nov 08 Orangevale, CA
Nov 12 Westminster, CA
Nov 17 Kawasaki, Japan
Nov 18 Tokyo, Japan
Nov 19 Osaka, Japan
Dec 10 Washington, DC Bayou
Dec 16 Boston, MA Axis
*** 1993:
Jan 09 Salisbury, MA Chapter II
Jan 10 Hadley, MA Vertex
Jan 13 Providence, RI Club Babyhead
Jan 16 Buffalo, NY Impaxx Ballroom
Feb 08 Colorado Springs, CO Colo Sprgs City Auditorium
Feb 11 Tia Juana
Feb 27 Baltimore, MA Hammerjacks
Mar 02 Philadelphia, PA TLA
Mar 04 New York, NY Limelight
Mar 10 Boston, MA Avalon Ballroom
Mar 14 Rochester, NY
Mar 15 Buffalo, NY Impaxx Ballroom
Mar 30 London, England Marquee
Apr 01 Stockholm, Sweden
Apr 02 Copenhagen, Denmark
Apr 04 Ludwigsburg, Germany Rockfabrik
Apr 05 Milan, Italy
Apr 07 Augsburg, Germany Rockfabrik
Apr 08 Munich, Germany Charterhalle
Apr 09 Hamburg, Germany Markthalle
Apr 10 Utrecht, Holland
Apr 12 Bonn, Germany
Apr 13 Paris, France
Apr 14 Werl, Germany Tor 3
Apr 15 Frankfurt, Germany Batschkapp
Apr 17 Dudley, England
Apr 18 Milton Keynes, England
Apr 19 Bristol, England Bierkeller
Apr 21 Glasgow, Scotland
Apr 22 Buckley, England
Apr 23 London, England Marquee
May 15 Warwick, RI Rocky Point Park
May 16 Albany, NY Palace Theater
May 17 Syracuse, NY Symphony Hall
May 18 Buffalo, NY Impaxx Concert Theater
May 20 Flint, MI Capitol Theater
May 21 Columbus, OH Newport Music Theater
May 23 St. Louis, MO American Theatre
May 26 Dallas, TX City Limits
May 27 Houston, TX Tower Theater
May 28 San Antonio, TX
May 29 Anthony, TX Wet-n-Wild
May 31 Tempe, AZ
Jun 01 Ventura, CA
Jun 03 Anaheim, CA Celebrity Theater
Jun 05 San Francisco, CA Warfield
Jun 08 Seattle, WA The Paramount
Jun 09 Portland, OR Roseland Theater
Jun 14 Denver, CO Mammoth Events Center
Jun 17 Wichita, KS
Jun 18 Kansas City, KS
Jun 19 Tulsa, OK Brady Theater
Jun 25 Chicago, IL The Vic
Jun 26 Detroit, MI State Theater
Jun 27 Cleveland, OH Agora Ball Room
Jun 29 Milwaukee, WI Summerfest
Jun 30 Green Bay, WI
Jul 03 Detroit Lakes, MN Soo Pass Ranch
Jul 04 Ft. Wayne, IN Pierre's
Jul 06 Indianapolis, IN City Lights
Jul 07 Pittsburgh, PA IC Light Tent
Jul 09 Agawam, MA Riverside Amusement Park
Jul 14 Baltimore, MD Pier 6
Jul 15 Rochestar, NY Downtown Festival Tent
Jul 18 Hampton, NH Hampton Beach Casino
Nov 01 Hamburg, Germany Docks
Nov 02 Hamburg, Germany Docks (optional date)
Nov 03 eu Isenburg, Germany Hugenottenhalle
Nov 05 Don, Germany Bikuithalle
Nov 06 Nurnberg, Germany Resi
Nov 07 Stuttgart, Germany onghorn
Nov 08 Bielefeld, Germany PC69
Nov 09 Berlin, Germany uxley's Neue Welt
Nov 11 Munich, Germany Zeppelinhalle
Nov 12 Saarburg, Germany Stadthalle
Nov 15 Milan, Italy Palaseto
Nov 17 Paris, France Elysee Montmarire
Nov 18 einze, Belgium Brielpoort
Nov 20 Tardiff, England St. Davids Hall
Nov 21 London, England Astoria
Nov 22 Wolverhamptn, England Wulfrun Hall
Nov 24 Nottingham, England Rock City
Nov 25 Bradford, England St. Georges Hall
Nov 26 Manchester, England University
Nov 28 Edinburgh, Scotland Queens Hall
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-jakaroub@happy.uccs.edu
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 02:35:36 -0800 (PST)
From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 233
> Jesus Christ! Touring Europe again? Get your asses back in the studio!
--But on the way, puh-leeze play a "Last time we were sick, THIS time
we kick butt" farewell show in Atlanta... hehe (Hell, I'll arrange the
booking myself. :))
> Hey Paul Cashman:
Thass' me....
> I love "Under a Glass Moon" too, but it's hardly
> a normal-length song, clocking in at 7:02,
Well, compared to Metropolis or Learning to Live.... I mean, you
could actually ALMOST get away with playing "UaGM" on the radio. :)
> and I agree with you
> about "Learning to Live." "Metropolis" seems to be kinda
> slapped together... It doesn't flow the way "Learning to Live" does.
Maybe "slapped together" is a bit harsh. The tempo is disjoint enough
so that it seems more of an instrumental showpiece than a song per
se.... Of course, it's -quite- a showpiece. :)
> I notice the same thing in "A Change of Seasons" where there is
> actually a keyboard solo that just goes off into space, then they start
> again...
Alas, I'll still have to take your word on that.... :(
Look, a New, Improved (tm) DT sig. :)
-- Paul W. Cashman | Before the leaves have fallen vanyel@crl.com | Before we lock the doors Dream Theater -------> | There must be the third and last dance "Metropolis Pt 1" | ...This one will last forever...------------------------------
Date: Wed, 3 NOV 93 10:58:39 GMT From: BLTSBARRY@VAX.LIVERPOOL-JOHN-MOORES.AC.UK Subject: Steve Bajzek
Steve. I got your letter plus your cash. I'll have them done as soon as possible! Shaun
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 93 9:32:02 EST From: csc3mad@cabell.vcu.edu (Michael A. Daugherty) Subject: Question]
I have a question, from previously released ytsejams, I have found (or think I have found) that there are three unreleased songs. Bombay Vindaloo (which was later officially released on LATM), Change Of Seasons and Forever. Am I mistaken? Are there any other DT songs that dont appear on either I&W and WDADU? If so could someone list them and possibly be willing to mail a copy of them to me? I am willing to pay or trade for good stuff. +Michael 'Here before me is my soul, I'm learning to live."
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 10:09:53 -0500 (EST) From: smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve Mansfield) Subject: Re: Let's compile the COMPLETE "Images & Words" tour dates!!!
> list -- If you know of any missing dates, venues, etc., please extract, edit, > and re-post to the list.
> Mar 14 Rochester, NY 3D'S.
Steve Mansfield | Once you're touched you stand alone to face the bitter fight smm@uunet.uu.net | Once I reached for love but now I reach for life. Dream Theater - Learning to Live
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 10:22:27 -0500 (EST) From: smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve Mansfield) Subject: Re: Let's compile the COMPLETE "Images & Words" tour dates!!!
> I added some 1992 October and November dates from a promo tour list > that ATCO sent me long ago.... I also fixed and added information to shows > in my area(CO). Here we go... > > Month Day City, State (Country) Venue > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Oct 06 Washington, DC Bayou > Oct 10 Rochester, NY 3D's ^^^^^
Steve Mansfield | Once you're touched you stand alone to face the bitter fight smm@uunet.uu.net | Once I reached for love but now I reach for life. Dream Theater - Learning to Live
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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1993 11:33:27 -0500 (EST) From: MF1788%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Subject: Re: discog
So where do we get to order these?? Especially the live one??
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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1993 11:46:41 -0500 (EST) From: MF1788%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Subject: Portnoy and album..
I met Mike Portnoy in Albany in Oct. 1992. They played at this small place called Saratoga Winners. It was a decent show, but they weren't that popular yet and not that many people were there. I'd heard of them in Late 1991 from a friend in college who had bought there first album when it was available in the US and he told me they were going to be an awesome band. Well we all know he was correct. Back to Portnoy. He was really cool.. I also love Marillion and I asked him about the touring with Marillion since they thanked them in their album. He said the band loves "Misplaced Childhood" and the he really loved the drumming of Ian Moseley. It was interesting to say the least. Early in 1993 I saw Dream Theatre again in Poughkeepsie at the Chance. That show kicked ass. It was an excellent show and we even started a mosh for Pull me Under and that got the band pumped up. They came back to the Chance in 2 months later, I wonder if it had to with the intense crowd. I guess yes... Does anyone know when the new album or studio stuff is coming out?? I know they are still touring, but I heard they have stuff written already including a 20 minute song?? My friend heard some new stuff when he saw them this summer.. Well thats it.. thanks Matt
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 11:55:43 -0500 (EST) From: hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> Subject: Live video...
Can someone please post some info on the Live in Tokeyo video that is due out on Nov 16th. How long is it, what is the set list, what does the package look like.
Thanks alot!
Jason Hartman
"I am the Killing Hand!"
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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1993 11:04:16 -0800 (PST) From: Tigger <GREG@POMONA.CLAREMONT.EDU> Subject: Re: tour dates
Jun 01 Ventura, CA Ventura Theater ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Incidently, I was at this show, and it was recorded for a radio broadcast. If anyone has a tape of this, I would be interested in hearing from you.
Greg Orman greg@pomona.claremont.edu
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Date: 03 Nov 93 16:34:42 EST From: "Michael E. Patrick" <71203.3457@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Stuff
Favorite moments in DT history? Hmm....I won't litter the list with starry-eyed adoration, but the whole guitar solo in 'Under a Glass Moon' and when James growls 'If not today nor yet tomorrow then some other day' in 'PMU'.
Jay Beckenstein plays the soprano sax in 'Another Day'. You're saying right about now, gee, thanks, Mike, I could have read the cd booklet myself. But I don't think a lot of folks on the list know that he's the founder of Spyro Gyra. If you're an old high school jazz bander like I once was, you KNOW who they are. I'd still like to know what connection he has with the band. . .
Mike
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 18:07:28 -0500 (EST) From: twyse@acpub.duke.edu (Timothy Wyse) Subject: Addition to '93 tour date list
I'm not sure how to go about editing it in, but I know of at least two tour dates missing from the list. One was June 22, 1993 in Toledo Ohio at Roxanne's. I know this one's the right date because I still have my ticket. They also played Toledo (again at Roxanne's I belive) sometime in late December 1992 or early Janurary 1993, but I can't remember the exact date.
-Tim Wyse (twyse@acpub.duke.edu)
-- "It's not a target - it's a tactically significant radar echo!"
"In the millitary we don't like to think of weapon systems as means of mass destruction, but as means of aiding the implementation of national policy."
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 19:17:49 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew P Jennings <mpj@christa.unh.edu> Subject: Re: discog
PLEASE REMOVE MY NAME FROM YOUR MAILING LIST!!
THANKS, MATT mpj@christa.edu.unh
On Tue, 2 Nov 1993, Tim wrote:
> I found the following and thought those of you looking for bootlegs > would like to see it: > (sorry if the ^Ms are appearing on the end of each line.. ) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > D R E A M T H E A T E R > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Discography: Dream Theater (Current to 10/93) > Compiled by: Mike Bahr (garion@indirect.com) (garion#hack) > > ** If you find more from Dream Theater, please do update this file. I ** > ** am sending this to ftp.uwp.edu; please refer to the most current ** > ** version on that site, in music/discog/d ...I own everything listed ** > ** here, so it's a given that I'd want to own anything else that's ** > ** currently available, bootleg OR legit release. > > ** A word of thanks goes here to the dozen-odd folks who wrote to me ** > ** with needed changes. Since I lost my old account (aumpb@asu.edu) ** > ** I need you to write me back at garion@indirect.com and tell me ** > ** who you were, I want to give name credit in this discography. ** > > LP - Record; CT - Cassette; CD - 5" Compact Disc; MD - 2.5" Mini Disc > C3 - 3" Compact Disc - CS - Cassette Single > > Full discography to > OFFICIAL RELEASES: > When Dream And Day Unite, 1989, MCA/Mechanix (France, Germany Only) > LP, CT, CD > Images & Words, 1992, Atlantic/ATCO (USA) CT, CD, MD > Images & Words, 1993, Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) LP, CT, CD > Images & Words, 1993, Vertigo/Biem/Stemra (Germany, Holland, UK) LP, CD > Another Day/Status Seeker, 1993, WEA International (UK Only?) CS > Another Day/Under A Glass Moon, 1993, Atlantic/ATCO (USA) CS > Pull Me Under, 1993, ATCO Promotional (USA) CD > Take The Time, 1993, ATCO Promotional (USA) CD > Another Day, 1993, ATCO Promotional (USA) CD > Under A Glass Moon, 1993, ATCO Promotional (USA) CD > Surrounded, 1993, ATCO Promotional (USA) CD > Live At The Marquee, 1993, WEA International (Germany, Holland, UK) CD > Live At The Marquee, 1993, Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) CD > > CONFIRMED BOOTLEGS: > A Fortune Pulled Under, 1992, LP (USA) > Live cuts from early promotional touring after the release > of Images & Words. > Images & Tour!, 1993, CD (USA) > A full length live bootleg from the Images & Tour Tour. > Runes, 1993, CD (USA) > A passable recording of a portion of the second leg of the > Images & Tour Tour. > > RELEASE INFO > ---------------------------------------- > When Dream And Day Unite, 1989, MCA/Mechanix, France, Germany only > Members of the band: > Vocals: Charlie Dominici > Drums: Michael Portnoy > Guitars: John Petrucci > Keyboards: Kevin Moore > Bass: John Myung > > Side 1 - A Fortune In Lies 5:10 > Status Seeker 4:15 > The Ytse Jam 5:43 > The Killing Hand 8:40 > I. The Observance > II. Ancient Renewal > III. The Stray Seed > IV. Thorus > V. Exodus > Side 2 - Light Fuse and Get Away 7:23 > Afterlife 5:27 > The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun 8:04 > Only a Matter of Time 6:35 > > > Images & Words, 1992, Atlantic/ATCO, USA > Members of the band: > Vocals: James LaBrie > Otherwise same > > Side 1 - Pull Me Under 8:11 > Another Day 4:22 > Take The Time 8:21 > Surrounded 5:28 > Side 2 - Metropolis Part I > (The Miracle and the Sleeper) 9:30 > Under a Glass Moon 7:02 > Wait For Sleep 2:31 > Learning to Live 11:30 > > Images & Words, 1993, Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) > Images & Words, 1993, Vertigo/Biem/Stemra (Germany, Holland, UK) > Identical to USA version except extra track on Vertigo release: > Side 1 - #5 The Ytse Jam (Live) 6:36 > > Another Day, 1993, WEA International, UK Only? Confirmation anyone? > Cassette Single > > Side 1 - Another Day (LP Version) 4:22 > Side 2 - Status Seeker (Live) 4:28 > > Another Day, 1991, Atlantic/ATCO, USA > Cassette Single > > Side 1 - Another Day (LP Version) 4:22 > Side 2 - Under A Glass Moon (LP Version) 7:02 > > Pull Me Under, 1993, ATCO Promotional (USA) > CD Single > > Pull Me Under (LP Version) 8:11 > > Take The Time, 1993, ATCO Promotional (USA) > CD Single > > Take The Time (LP Version) 8:21 > > Another Day, 1993, ATCO Promotional (USA) > CD Single > > Another Day (LP Version) 4:21 > > Under A Glass Moon, 1993, ATCO Promotional (USA) > CD Single > > Under A Glass Moon (LP Version) 7:02 > > Surrounded, 1993, ATCO Promotional (USA) > CD Single > > Surrounded (LP Version) 5:29 > > Live At The Marquee, 1993, WEA International (Germany, Holland, UK) > CD EP > Recorded in London, England, UK, April 1993 > > Metropolis 9:36 > A Fortune In Lies 5:10 > Bombay Vindaloo (Previously Unreleased) 6:48 > Surrounded 6:00 > Another Hand-The Killing Hand 10:30 > Pull Me Under 8:42 > > Live At The Marquee, 1993, Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) > CD EP > Identical to Germany/Holland/UK version. > > BOOTLEG INFO > -------------------------------------- > A Fortune Pulled Under (USA) 1992, LP > 1 LP > Recorded in Paris, France, October 1992 > Side 1 - Take The Time > Afterlife > The Ytse Jam/Drum Solo > Only a Matter of Time > Side 2 - Guitar Solo/A Fortune In Lies > Under a Glass Moon > Surrounded > Pull Me Under > > > Images & Tour! (USA) 1993, CD > 1 CD > Recorded in Tempe, AZ, USA, March 1993 > Metropolis > Afterlife > Under a Glass Moon > Surrounded > The Ytse Jam/Drum Solo > Another Day > Bass Solo/Guitar Solo > Pull Me Under > Take The Time > Wait For Sleep > Learning to Live > > Runes (USA) 1993, CD > 1 CD > Recorded in Sacramento, CA, USA, no date given. > Can be distinguished by lack of good bass in the first three tracks. > (cuts right to song, no fade-in) > Metropolis > Under A Glass Moon > To Live Forever > Wait For Sleep > Surrounded > A Fortune In Lies > Take The Time > Pull Me Under > Learning To Live > (cuts off after last chord) > > --=-- END REVISED FILE, 10/93 (MPB) --=-- > >
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