Contents:
DT Bootleg FAQ (Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>)
Home Sweet Home (Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>)
Re: ACOS and DOE (ytsejam@aol.com)
Re: Questions about some rare... (ytsejam@aol.com)
Neil's solo tape. (dpapalli@sdcc8.UCSD.EDU (HIGHway to Hell))
More Fates Warning News (Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>)
....about Mrs. Leslie (+) (Andrew Cloninger <ancl@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu>)
Metal bands (dliebson@MIT.EDU)
other digests, and musicians on YTSEJAM... (Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>)
Dances of Eternity (Lee T Sprague <lee@ecn.purdue.edu>)
Re: More Fates Warning News (Timothy.R.St.Onge@Dartmouth.EDU (Timothy R. St. Onge))
DOUGH!!! ("Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>)
Re: Neil's solo tape. (Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>)
re-the perfect song ("Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>)
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Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 12:03:06 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
Subject: DT Bootleg FAQ
Well, someone posted ait here for me, but remember, if you do want a
copy, please email me, or Mike Bahr... He can forward it on over to
me. Also, try to avoid posting it here... it is just cause it is so
long... Also, that is just about the newest version... but you don't
always know when there are additions... I think that about the only
change to the one posted was that I think it was #51 is listed as To
Live Forever... extended version. Replace that song title with
Barfbag.
Also, for the personh taht found Dimension Shift, please send me any
info that you find about it... I want to update it. Thanks alot.
-- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The way your heart sounds makes all the difference | | It's what decides if you'll endure the pain that we all feel | | The way your heart beats makes all the difference | | In learning to live | | Dream Theater Learning To Live Images and Words | | Michael Burstin Brandeis University | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Let's Go Pens Let's Go Pens Lets Go Pens Let's Go Pens | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu------------------------------
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 12:12:16 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> Subject: Home Sweet Home
> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 18:11:50 -0500 (EST) > From: ees4941@gold.acns.fsu.edu (Dr. Strangiato) > Subject: Home Sweet Home > > I just saw this CD boot in a local store. Can anyone tell me anything > about it? It's about $35 if I remember correctly. > Well, the CD is very good... good quality. I think thast it sounds MUCH better than the Live In Long Island CDs. The price, however is very steep. I got it for around $21 to $23. How much do you normally pay for bootlegs? I can usually find them for under $25 at the one shop here in Boston, but I have paid $30 whenever I get them at home in Pgh. Oh... also, last time I was at Second Coming, they did finally have another copy of Dances Of Eternity, and I thing thayalso had Consciously Unreal... that was a week or 2 ago, but it seems like I am one of the few people that buys DT CDs there, so if anyone out there is looking for a copy, I can call to see if they have it in, and have them hold one for you. They will charge $3.00 for shipping, which is very reasonable. Please email me privatly for this.
-- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The way your heart sounds makes all the difference | | It's what decides if you'll endure the pain that we all feel | | The way your heart beats makes all the difference | | In learning to live | | Dream Theater Learning To Live Images and Words | | Michael Burstin Brandeis University | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Let's Go Pens Let's Go Pens Lets Go Pens Let's Go Pens | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
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Date: Sat, 02 Apr 94 13:37:29 EST From: ytsejam@aol.com Subject: Re: ACOS and DOE
Dance Of Eternity is an audience boot. It would be VERY obvious if it were a soundboard recording. I have quite a few soundboard boots of them and you can barely hear the audience. The audience has to be "miked" for any live album as the band is much louder than the audience when recorded. Dance Of Eternity is one of the best audience boots I've ever heard.
As for DOE being slotted for some release because they played "A Change Of Seasons", not quite. The performance on DOE is the Limelight show which was an Industry Showcase. This means alot of industry people were there and they did TWO sets (the two CDs represent each set). I have a copy of the video of this show. It was generated by people at WEA. They did cut off "To Live Forever" and "Take The Time" on the video. There are interviews with the crowd (and Mike) in between the concert footage.
I hope this helps clear anything up. An aside..."Dream Out Loud" sounds rather slow. Someone messed up when they mastered it.
Rob
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Date: Sat, 02 Apr 94 13:43:17 EST From: ytsejam@aol.com Subject: Re: Questions about some rare...
Here's what I know...
1. Kevin Moore got a hold of "Wanted: Dead Or Alive" which John P. did solo. Kevin added all the oddball stuff to it. John wasn't intially aware that it had this stuff added to it. Nor did he know it had gotten out at all!
2. I had always heard that Charlie did all the vocals on "O Holy Night", but the second vocal doesn't sound like him. Not sure.
3. "The Golden Weight" (a/k/a "Golden Slumbers) is Charlie singing.
Hope this helps...
Rob
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Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 13:59:34 -0800 (PST) From: dpapalli@sdcc8.UCSD.EDU (HIGHway to Hell) Subject: Neil's solo tape.
Well Mike, GREAT tape. I'm talking about the Neil solo tape. Especially the later stuff, keep getting more and more complex. I don't know why Neil chooses to use similar stuff in most of his solos though. He wants to establish some kind of Neil trademark I guess. (Does anybody else agree with me that he plays similar solos in many of his tours?) Anybody else that got this tape from Mike, can you pleeeaaase tell me if you think, that the ealier solos (from 74 to about 80) sound a lot like Mike's solo in Live in TOkyo. This is driving me crazy. Everybody outthere that thinks I'm wrong, DONT start a flame war. This is just my opinion.
Demetris S.D
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Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 17:44:40 -0500 From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> Subject: More Fates Warning News
Hi all... I just found this message on alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive and thought that you would be interested. I have no idea how accurate any of the news is... Anyway, here goes...
>From: kingh@aol.com (King H) >John will be singing "Guardian" with Fates at a Holland festival show in May. >Fates will have a new album, tentatively titled "Turtle" out this summer.
-- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The way your heart sounds makes all the difference | | It's what decides if you'll endure the pain that we all feel | | The way your heart beats makes all the difference | | In learning to live | | Dream Theater Learning To Live Images and Words | | Michael Burstin Brandeis University | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Let's Go Pens Let's Go Pens Lets Go Pens Let's Go Pens | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
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Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 18:19:42 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Cloninger <ancl@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> Subject: ....about Mrs. Leslie (+)
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Goodday Guys and Gals, Debated about posting this here but decided it was worth it. Ill get on... About Mrs Leslie(1954) Shirley Booth(Mrs Leslie),Robert Ryan(George Leslie) Booth is ill-served in the role of a Beverly HIlls rooming house lady who looks back upon her romance with Ryan. Flasbacks show her woed away from her NYC nightclub singing post by Ryan who takes her on a six-week vacation to the West Coast. She stays on as his mistress, though assuming the Leslie name. Booth knows little about Ryan's life and, after his death, learns that he was a tycoon airplane manufacturer. Revolving around this sudsy weeper are other minor stories, those of Mrs Leslies roomies Nadine and Lan, who fall in love on her premises. The dialog is briefly bright but most of the film bogs down in murky melodrama with Ryan mismatched as the married-too-young lover. One handkerchief only. P.(Hal B. Wallis), D.(Daniel Mann),W.(Ketti Frings, Hall Kanter(based on the novel by Vina Delmar),P.(Ernest Laslo) Anyone have contacts with the band to figure out how this all connects to the song..as ...its...pretty well beyond me!
OBD.T.: I noticed on the boot's list that there was a show from Tallahassee listed. Can anyone tell me anything about that show, or how i could obtain a copy of it(not to mention my interest in getting hold of quite a number of DT boots......) Sorry for the length guys.... Andrew
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Date: Sat, 2 Apr 94 20:18:03 From: dliebson@MIT.EDU Subject: Metal bands
On the subject of progressive metal, who would say that Dream Theater could be described as a combination of Rush and Queensryche?
Dave
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Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 21:40:00 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> Subject: other digests, and musicians on YTSEJAM...
Ok, 2 posts here.
First, someone asked what other digests people are on... well, for me, YTSEJAM, NMS, SiD, Van Halen (The 5150 Times), Pearl Jam, Metallica, The Hardrock Digest, as well as the Radio Concerts Digest, and the New Release Mailing List. All of them cool... YTSEJAM I think is the best. NMS has a little too much BS for my tastes, but there is also some cool stuff there, so I stay on it. PJ is really annoying sometimes... People send personal mail through it... arrange trades over the digest...
Second, and most important. It seems to me that I am one of the few people here that don;t play an instrument of some sort or another... I was wondering how many of you out there play, and what you play... and how many of you don't play anything... Mail me personally... who knows, maybe if I get enough responses I'll post a summary or something...
-- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The way your heart sounds makes all the difference | | It's what decides if you'll endure the pain that we all feel | | The way your heart beats makes all the difference | | In learning to live | | Dream Theater Learning To Live Images and Words | | Michael Burstin Brandeis University | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Let's Go Pens Let's Go Pens Lets Go Pens Let's Go Pens | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
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Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 21:40:51 -0500 From: Lee T Sprague <lee@ecn.purdue.edu> Subject: Dances of Eternity
Simple question --- is Dances of Eternity a 1 or 2 CD boot? I want to find it, and I want to be prepared for the price. Actually, what would the price be for it, ballpark? Thanks.
Lee
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Date: 02 Apr 94 22:45:22 EST From: Timothy.R.St.Onge@Dartmouth.EDU (Timothy R. St. Onge) Subject: Re: More Fates Warning News
Mike, I happen to be listening to Perfect Symmetry by Fates Warning right now. I think they are awesome, especially the Ray Alder/Mark Zonder lineup. (The cool thing about the old lineup is that the old drummer grew up about five minutes from my house - Newington, CT. Actually, I am pretty sure all the original band members are from Connecticut.) How big are you into FW? When I saw DT in Agawam, MA, last summer, I thought it was totally cool that John Petrucci was wearing a Parallels T-shirt. Kevin Moore actually plays on At Fates Hands off of Perfect Symmetry. The bands' ties to each other are pretty explicit. I heard this fall that Fates Warning were kicked off their old label but had found another and were having an album release concert in their homestate at the Sports Palace. I guess this was not true, but I am glad to know that they are back on their feet. My ex-girlfriend saw guitarist Frank Aresti in my hometown library around Christmastime, but she did not know much about the band except what I had told her and so did not think to ask about a new album. Let me know if you know any really cool things about FW that I probably do not know. Tim timothy.r.st.onge@dartmouth.edu
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Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 23:56:06 -0600 (CST) From: "Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu> Subject: DOUGH!!!
I thought I'd seen Diminsion shift, but it was Home Sweet Home. Sorry about any problems this has caused, just call me stupid!!! The Skyway... boot has been claimed, but home sweet home is available if anyone wants it. Once again, I'm sorry!!! Later Guys and Gals!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- According to the circle of fifths, and the pattern of sharps and flats: If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (i.e, a,a#,b,c,c#...g#,h,i,j,etc) eventually the key of Z Major would have 4 sharps. Eric Moegling gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 23:20:30 -40962758 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> Subject: Re: Neil's solo tape.
> GREAT tape. I'm talking about the Neil solo tape. > Especially the later stuff, keep getting more and more complex. > I don't know why Neil chooses to use similar stuff in most of his solos > though. He wants to establish some kind of Neil trademark I guess. > (Does anybody else agree with me that he plays similar solos > in many of his tours?) > Anybody else that got this tape from Mike, can you
Great! I'm glad it gets the thumbs up. Next up: Instrumentals! Rush, Dream Theater,maybe a touch of Metallica, definitely Pink Floyd, and possibly others. All Ytsejammers, let me know what you'd think ofsuch an undertaking.
> pleeeaaase tell me if you think, that the ealier solos (from 74 to > about 80) sound a lot like Mike's solo in Live in TOkyo. This > is driving me crazy. Everybody outthere that thinks I'm wrong, DONT > start a flame war. This is just my opinion.
There are many places in which it DOES sound close to the same. Mike and Neil both do a certain series of roll-beat-roll-CRASH type of patterns, and they use the same pattern from time to time. There's a lot of similarity and it's no coincidence. Neil put it in there because it's showcase drumming; Mike put in in there because of that and also because Neil did it! :)
Mike/garion@indirect.com/belar@aol.com/king@citadel.gov.riva
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Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 00:55:24 -0600 (CST) From: "Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu> Subject: re-the perfect song
O.K. I remember when someone was talking about how Learning to Live was the perfect song, and there was a big discussion on it (I agreed with him), since then though, I've heard The Killing Hand, and Moon Bubbles, and I have to say that these two (Musically) are definetly perfect also! I could listen to these two song for years on end!!! I want these two songs played at my tribute concert if I were to die (Funerals are boring, and depressing, and I want to go out with a party!!!). I just got DOE, and it's totally cool (what I've heard of it), and I want to suggest that everyone on the list to make every effort to at least hear every DT song available, it's definetly worth the sacrifice of $25-60!!! Thanks to everyone who's posted things about DOE, it was well worth the $50, I'd actually pay more!!! Later!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- According to the circle of fifths, and the pattern of sharps and flats: If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (i.e, a,a#,b,c,c#...g#,h,i,j,etc) eventually the key of Z Major would have 4 sharps. Eric Moegling gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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