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    Inferno and FW (marquer@geof.ruu.nl (Henk Marquering))
    UNSUBSCRIBE (mo1amy4 <mo1amy4@greenwich.ac.uk>)
    Re: MY BAND OPENED FOR DT (freak@salyko.cube.net (Alex Reinelt))
    INFERNO (Me <pdaugher@bdmserver>)
    Re: More Fates Warning News:personnel changes (whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White))
    Dream Theater CD release date (Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>)
    Re: A Woman Speaks! (kryt@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Krysten DeBroka))
    Article in Jan 1990 Guitar Player Magazine (James=Utz%Mech%PCPD=Hou@bangate.compaq.com)
    REDO: Article in Jan 1990 Guitar Player Magazine (James=Utz%Mech%PCPD=Hou@bangate.compaq.com)
    Out of order digests. ("Josh Tournas" <jatourna@mailbox.syr.edu>)
    Re: DoE (tedk@gamera.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ted Krueger))
    Re: King's X in New York (whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White))
    Re: Inferno: _Psychic Distance_ (whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White))
    MY BAND OPENED FOR DT (zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill))
    Re: Strangeness and other things ("AN ANGEL'S KISS...NOW FALLEN...." <ABALKIEW@VAXC.STEVENS-TECH.EDU>)
    Re: Moon Bubbles (freak@salyko.cube.net (Alex Reinelt))
    Re: Portnoy. (mozo21@aol.com)
    The Inferno message again (fwd) (Rossy the Psychopath <bjross@mailbox.syr.edu>)

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 10:22:17 MDT
    From: marquer@geof.ruu.nl (Henk Marquering)
    Subject: Inferno and FW

    First of all sorry for the "indirect-related-DT" contents of this mail

    I am confinced. I want to buy the inferno tape. Unfortunally, I lost
    the address :( So if this person could mail me his address I will send
    a check.
    I also want to reply on the comment someone made about Jim Matheos "being"
    Fates Warning because he writes almost all their stuff and being in the
    band the longest. I dont know if this person knowns the album
    Perfect Symmetry (absolutely their best). But I believe that Frank Aresti
    wrote (almost?) the complete album. I sure hope he will write more on their
    new one.

    Henk******************************************************************
     ****Shalalalalalalalala Shalalalalalalala Shalalalalalala--LUV--****
    ***************************************************marquer@geof.ruu.nl*

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 11:03:27 BST
    From: mo1amy4 <mo1amy4@greenwich.ac.uk>
    Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE

    Please unsubscribe me.

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 12:30:23 MET From: freak@salyko.cube.net (Alex Reinelt) Subject: Re: MY BAND OPENED FOR DT

    Well...I hope your CD will be avaible in germany as well...

    bye, Freak

    *>>>> Freak is Alexander Reinelt from Munich/Germany <<<<* # UUCP:freak@cubenet.sub.org FIDONET: Alex_Reinelt@2:2480/66 # # voice: ++49-89-68 33 40 FAX: ++49-89-689 18 71 # *>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ( ??! ) <<<<*

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 09:08:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Me <pdaugher@bdmserver> Subject: INFERNO

    What was the address for the tape of this band again?

    Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 09:56:15 EDT From: whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White) Subject: Re: More Fates Warning News:personnel changes

    Ok, with all this FW talk, I want to get more of their stuff now. I have Perfect Symmetry and Parrallels, but does anyone know of where I can get their older stuff? I always look in music stores, but they never have them. *sigh* Also, I'm moving to Minneapolis, MN in a couple months, and was wondering if someone could PLEASE tell me the number to a good radio station out there? (ie: one that players DT, Rush, Yes, QR, etc?) I would be SO grateful :) THanks for any help anyone can give :) Chris

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 10:02:06 -0500 (EDT) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> Subject: Dream Theater CD release date

    Well, after seeing several different conflicting dates for the release of Dream Theater's new CD, I decided to call ATCO to find out. The date that they gave me was sometime in August. If anyone else wants to call for more info, their phone number is 212-275-2500. I also asked if they had any promotional CDs, and they said that they have none... -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | This world is spinning around me | | This world is spinning without me | | Every day sends future to past | | Every breath leaves me one less to my last | | Dream Theater Pull Me Under Images and Words | | Michael Burstin Brandeis University | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Let's Go Pens Let's Go Pens Lets Go Pens Let's Go Pens | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 10:09:26 EST From: kryt@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Krysten DeBroka) Subject: Re: A Woman Speaks!

    > > You said you've seen the Live in Tokyo CD for $20? And the video for > $16? I didn't know they MADE a CD for LiT, did they? Hmmm... :) > Lemme know, cos that'd be cool to buy :) > As for the video cost, I got it for $13 on sale. (reg $15 I think) > Chris > sorry, i goofed... I saw the Live at the Marquee video, guess i just wasnt paying attention very well... sorry if i confused anyone.

    ---Krystn

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 11:36:29 CDT From: James=Utz%Mech%PCPD=Hou@bangate.compaq.com Subject: Article in Jan 1990 Guitar Player Magazine

    Hello, I finally transcribed the old DT article I found in Guitar Player. Here it is, in it's entirety.

    James James=Utz%Mech%PCPD=Hou@bangate.compaq.com

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 11:54:24 CDT From: James=Utz%Mech%PCPD=Hou@bangate.compaq.com Subject: REDO: Article in Jan 1990 Guitar Player Magazine

    WHOOPS. Let's try it again:

    Hello, I finally transcribed the old DT article I found in Guitar Player. Here it is, in it's entirety.

    James James=Utz%Mech%PCPD=Hou@bangate.compaq.com

    Dream Theater: New Definition For Progressive Rock

    by Tom Mulhern from Guitar Player Magazine, January 1990, pg. 14 & 15

    (Page 14 has a picture Petrucci and Myung in upper right corner)

    The term "progressive rock" can bring many conversations to a screeching halt, polarizing even the most mild-mannered music aficionados. For some, it conjures complex, compelling, sometimes classically derived rock, while others view it as bombastic musical excess. Both sides generally concede that, for the most part, it died with the '70s. However, Dream Theater is cutting a path into a new territory that's heavy on the metal, light on the classicism, and thick with excitement. Their debut album, When Dream And Day Unite [MCA/Mechanic] shows the quintet taking chances in odd meters, scaling complex harmonies, and burning on their instruments. At times they travel the road paved by Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Genesis, Kansas, and Rush, while laying down a thick coating of grit that only comes from the type of metal forged by Iron Maiden, Metallica, et al. The quintet has its roots on Long Island, where guitarist John Petrucci, bassist John Myung, and keyboardist Kevin Moore played in bands together during their teens. The guitarist and bassist attended Berklee in 1985, primarily to enhance their musical abilities, but also to meet new players. Petrucci recalls their brief tenure in Boston: "We wrote heavy progressive tunes as trios - guitar, bass, and drums - while all around us were people doing standard jazz. We did our stuff for about six hours a night, the whole time disturbing the acoustic players in the practice rooms next door." After two semesters, they returned to Long Island with new drummer Mike Portnoy in tow. As Majesty, they worked day and night creating and refining their tunes, and soon added vocalist Chris Collins (who was replaced in late '86 by Charlie Dominici). The band gigged in New York and recorded a four-tune demo that quickly sold 1,000 copies. When the demo came to Mechanic Records' attention in early 1988, the band was immediately signed for it's debut album. While recording, the band abruptly changed its name when they found that there was already another band calling itself Majesty. The other band had a trademark and wouldn't relinquish it; thus, Dream Theater was born. When Dream And Day Unite features speedy licks and complex interplay by the guitarist and bassist (both 22 years old) as keyboards swirl and the drums tear through the songs like a Ferrari down a narrow alley. The high-speed, always-in-control picking styles of Al DiMeola, Steve Morse, Steve Howe, and Yngwie Malmsteen are all reflected in Petrucci's lead work, but more important, he fuses his influences in a well-balanced blend that quivers with whammyfied electricity from his leopard skin-patterned custom Ibanez. The guitar is outfitted with a DiMarzio P.A.F. Pro at the bridge and a Double Whammy at the neck, as well as a coil-tap in the tone control. His other equipment consists of a Samson Stage 22 wireless, a T.C. Electronic 2290 for chorusing and flanging, a T.C. Electronic parametric EQ, a Korg DRV-2000 digital reverb, a Hush IICX noise-reduction unit - all controlled via MIDI using a MESA/Boogie MIDI Matrix with an Abacus footcontroller, and shaped by a MESA/Boogie Quad Preamp driving a MESA 295 SimulClass power amp and two Randall 4 x 12s with Celestion speakers. Despite the heap of equipment, Petrucci insists that his primary weapon is his technique: "I still work on picking every day. The day I discovered a metronome was the best day of my life. But it's a double-edged sword. I worked so hard on picking everything that I never really got into flashier left-hand stuff. I have tried to develop both, though, because no matter what, you can use another approach to round things out in your own style. You always open up new doors. By trying to learn some of Frank Gambale's stuff, I found that I came up with all sorts of new ideas. His way of phrasing is totally different because of his approach. It was the same thing with using a tremolo. I listened to Steve Vai's Flexable [Urantia], and then Brad Gillis when he played with Ozzy Osbourne. Another guy who has an interesting approach to the bar is Alex Lifeson. He doesn't use it in a really radical way, but he uses it to put vibrato on chords and to slur into notes - like Allan Holdsworth. I want to learn a lot more." Holding down the bottom while adding precise, complex licks is John Myung's bread and butter. He flavors Dream Theater's songs with daring Jaco-style harmonics that punctuate his pulsating lines and leave room for tasty fills by his rhythm-section counterpart, Portnoy. Only a five-year veteran on the bass, he got into the instrument at age 17 after playing violin for 12 years. "I played in competitions and orchestras, where your performance was graded and criticized," he explains. "When I was 16 or 17, I felt much closer to progressive music than to classical, and I made the decision to play bass. I took it very seriously, trying to outdo the local players. Healthy competition. I transferred the challenge of playing violin to the bass, as far as having to play fast and accurate go. I was always trying to shoot beyond my capability. My main influences came from Iron Maiden, Rush, Yes, and Jaco Pastorius. Then, when I heard Billy Sheehan, I didn't know where he came from. He really showed me the way to a sound." John Myung's Music Man StingRay bass has a replacement Gibson EB-O pickup added near the neck for grunge and bottom, but for clean playing and harmonics, the stock pickup is the ticket. The bass is strung with Rotosound Swing Bass strings, and amplified via two Pearce BC-1 preamps (one has the Billy Sheehan Modification - heavy on the overdrive), plus a QSC MX1500 1,500-watt power amp that drives two Ampeg SVT 8 x 10 cabinets. "It's definitely overkill, more than I need," he admits. "But I have power to spare, so I don't have to push the amp very hard. That way, it's always clean power." Although Myung is a fiery soloist whose workmanship is reminiscent of Billy Sheehan's, he insists, "I'm not a solo maniac. I'm a team player. The way I get the most out of myself is working with a very good combination of people. And those are the ingredients of Dream Theater." Despite the band's progressive-rock leanings, Myung emphasizes, "We're not trying to bring back anything. We're trying to have a certain standard of musicianship, as far as composition, arrangement, depth of complexity, and subtlety go. We set a goal, and we've been following it. There's too much in-your-face playing without great musicianship. We love being heavy, but if you're heavy all the time, it locks you in. And if you're too wimpy, you get known only for that." To date, the band's strongest response has been from Europe and Japan. American tours have fallen through, but as of this writing, a tour of Europe was scheduled for late November '89. Dream Theater isn't waiting for success to come easily, nor are they waiting for their debut to play itself out before knuckling down for their second album. "We're constantly writing new songs," says Petrucci. "As far as writing for the new album is concerned, we're at work on the material now. Success is just a matter of time."

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 13:36:26 -0400 From: "Josh Tournas" <jatourna@mailbox.syr.edu> Subject: Out of order digests.

    Mike, I noticed the same problem... Today (4/15), I got 370 (4/9) and 371 (4/10along with 373... Strange.

    Josh

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 14:07:42 CDT From: tedk@gamera.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ted Krueger) Subject: Re: DoE

    > > > Oops. I guess I sounded a little harsh, but I do think that LaBrie is a very > > good singer. From what I understand, he still hasn't learned to preserve his > > voice from show to show. Is preserving a technique or merely a talent? > > > Well, I asked my roomie about preserving voice (he's a vocal major :) and > he said that there's 2 lines of thought on the matter (guess nobody really > knows for sure *shrug*:) He said one side says that if you sing properly, > (with posture and stuff like that; he sings mainly classical stuff) that > your voice will never tire. The other side says that your voice can only > take so much, no matter what you do, and it just needs rest. *shrug* Not > sure which is right, but I guess it makes sense. The only "technique" to > saving your voice is singing properly I suppose *shrug* :) > Chris In my younger days, I sang in a few rock bands, and believe me, you can train your voice to last longer. It is certainly a largely individual thing, but I found that by practicing songs over and over, I could learn the proper places to take short breaths, to cheat on a note and things like that.

    In much of hard rock music, falsetto can be used here and there to preserve the voice.

    Ted "Ex-lead singer for Viper and Storm" Krueger

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 17:53:58 EDT From: whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White) Subject: Re: King's X in New York

    Well, I can only judge King's X by the one album I heard (Grethen Goes to Nebraska) but I think I know why the whole world doesn't think they rock... Cos they rot *smirk* Maybe Nebraska was just a bad album, but I doubt I'll go and buy another of their albums because of it *shrug* :) Chris

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 17:56:29 EDT From: whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White) Subject: Re: Inferno: _Psychic Distance_

    > INFERNO > c/o Jay Peele > 6556 Fern St. > Green Cove Springs, FL 32043 > (I will send you a tape - you can trust us progressive types, you know. $8 > is to cover the cost of the tape and $1.25 is for postage. The album is > over 50 minutes long and has great sound quality. I hope to generate some > interest among beloved DT fans... Here is a quote from the song Psychic > Distance (Part 2).. There ya are :) Chris

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 16:03:00 PDT From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) Subject: MY BAND OPENED FOR DT

    For those of you that didn't get it...

    ----- Begin Included Message -----

    >From root@bnf.com Wed Apr 13 20:54:01 1994 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 94 22:29:43 PDT Originator: ytsejam@bnf.com Reply-To: <ytsejam@bnf.com> Sender: ytsejam@bnf.com Version: 5.5 -- Copyright (c) 1991/92, Anastasios Kotsikonas From: James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@bnf.com> Subject: MY BAND OPENED FOR DT Content-Length: 1950

    Greetings progressive metalheads from Jay Peele (band: INFERNO), I've been a huge DT fan since WD&DU came out and I obtained a promotion copy of I&W the week before it was released (Of course I also have Marquee and DoE as well). I've seen the band perform live 4 times and met them every time. The first time I saw DT Mike Portnoy was wearing one of my band's t-shirts. After the show he told us that a friend of ours in Atlanta had given him the shirt and told him to wear it in Jacksonville.... (Amazing!) About 14 months ago, at a different show here in Jacksonville, my band, INFERNO, got to open for DT. At the soundcheck, they played 'to live (forever)' and a smal part of ACoS (It was incredible). Our music is highly influenced by the likes of Rush, DT, Fates Warning, Queensryche, Yes, Pink Floyd, Watchtower, Voivod, etc. As most of you know, progressive metal bands don't muster up a lot of support so I thought I would ask all of you for help. If anyone is interested in hearing my band's debut independent album entitled 'Psychic Distance' please email me directly at jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu or send a check for $9.25 made payable to Jay Peele to the following address: INFERNO c/o Jay Peele 6556 Fern St. Green Cove Springs, FL 32043

    (I will send you a tape - you can trust us progressive types, you know. $8 is to cover the cost of the tape and $1.25 is for postage. The album is over 50 minutes long and has great sound quality. I hope to generate some interest among beloved DT fans... Here is a quote from the song Psychic Distance (Part 2)..

    "We sift through our insecurities Longing for innocent bewilderment That feeds an unremembered vision Imposing thought on youth's emotions Feeble attempts to restore tranquil moods We hold on to real motivation

    Dare to heed the call Dare to chase the light Endure the freezing cold Persist until the end Dare to question lies pressed upon your mind"

    -Jay Peele (INFERNO)

    ----- End Included Message -----

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    Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 21:18:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "AN ANGEL'S KISS...NOW FALLEN...." <ABALKIEW@VAXC.STEVENS-TECH.EDU> Subject: Re: Strangeness and other things

    About the marching band playing "Pull Me Under" - if you can get a recording of that - let me know - I'd love to hear it...no matter how bad it might be..... That totally freaks me out!!!!!!!

    Later,

    Al Balkiewicz

    <*><*><*><*><*><*><>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<*><*><* " Adesso che ho perso la vista ci vedo meglio e di piu...." ABALKIEW@VAXC.STEVENS-TECH.EDU ABALKIEW@SITVXC

    <><>*<><>*<>*<*>*><*><*><>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<*><*><*><><*<<><><<*><*><*><>*<>*<>*<

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    Date: Sat, 16 Apr 94 14:36:05 MET From: freak@salyko.cube.net (Alex Reinelt) Subject: Re: Moon Bubbles

    > > for example he asks "All right...how many of you got the new album?!". > > More details when I have the time.... > > Well, James pretty much says this line in every show, so that, > unfortunatly is not a help... Maybe this one helps: after the first track he says "ok, we move on to our next album. this is the title track its called....(couldnt understand)........juz kiddin! this is: under a glass moon!"

    > > in live action. But no hint to nothing except that its recorded live in > > november 1992, but not where. > > > Well, November is the date for HSH & LiLI, but who knows... As far as > packaging... just look to DoE... I think I made out a "goodbye! thank you tokyo!" after TTT. concerning the fotos on the back: the quality is much better than on DoE. Quite like on LatM.... bye, Freak

    *>>>> Freak is Alexander Reinelt from Munich/Germany <<<<* # UUCP:freak@cubenet.sub.org FIDONET: Alex_Reinelt@2:2480/66 # # voice: ++49-89-68 33 40 FAX: ++49-89-689 18 71 # *>>>>> ...for the fortune lies still in our hands (DT - TTT) <<*

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    Date: Sat, 16 Apr 94 12:57:23 EDT From: mozo21@aol.com Subject: Re: Portnoy.

    Wow, A fake letter from Portnoy. Lighten up guys. I thought it was pretty funny. The only person who should really be pissed is the guy whose account was being used. Other than that, what's the harm??? I fell for it, too. I'd probably fall for it again. Besides, it's nowhere near as bad as the Marillion April Fool's joke.

    andy

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    Date: Sat, 16 Apr 94 13:26:57 -0400 From: Rossy the Psychopath <bjross@mailbox.syr.edu> Subject: The Inferno message again (fwd)

    Here's the original message w/ the address (or at least the first message w/ the address that I received) for everyone who's asking for it...Sorry about the non-DT content, but this is much easier than having someone mail it to each individual request...Don't erase it this time...

    Infinitely, Rossy the Psychopath

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    Return-Path: <bnf!bnf.com!root@uu2.psi.com> From: James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@bnf.com> Subject: MY BAND OPENED FOR DT Status: U

    Greetings progressive metalheads from Jay Peele (band: INFERNO), I've been a huge DT fan since WD&DU came out and I obtained a promotion copy of I&W the week before it was released (Of course I also have Marquee and DoE as well). I've seen the band perform live 4 times and met them every time. The first time I saw DT Mike Portnoy was wearing one of my band's t-shirts. After the show he told us that a friend of ours in Atlanta had given him the shirt and told him to wear it in Jacksonville.... (Amazing!) About 14 months ago, at a different show here in Jacksonville, my band, INFERNO, got to open for DT. At the soundcheck, they played 'to live (forever)' and a smal part of ACoS (It was incredible). Our music is highly influenced by the likes of Rush, DT, Fates Warning, Queensryche, Yes, Pink Floyd, Watchtower, Voivod, etc. As most of you know, progressive metal bands don't muster up a lot of support so I thought I would ask all of you for help. If anyone is interested in hearing my band's debut independent album entitled 'Psychic Distance' please email me directly at jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu or send a check for $9.25 made payable to Jay Peele to the following address: INFERNO c/o Jay Peele 6556 Fern St. Green Cove Springs, FL 32043

    (I will send you a tape - you can trust us progressive types, you know. $8 is to cover the cost of the tape and $1.25 is for postage. The album is over 50 minutes long and has great sound quality. I hope to generate some interest among beloved DT fans... Here is a quote from the song Psychic Distance (Part 2)..

    "We sift through our insecurities Longing for innocent bewilderment That feeds an unremembered vision Imposing thought on youth's emotions Feeble attempts to restore tranquil moods We hold on to real motivation

    Dare to heed the call Dare to chase the light Endure the freezing cold Persist until the end Dare to question lies pressed upon your mind"

    - -Jay Peele (INFERNO)

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