YTSEJAM Digest 626
Today's Topics:
1) Ytsejam shirts
by John Mastin <jmastin@motown.ge.com>
2) taping equipment
by ACW1066@aol.com
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 625
by TTubbiola@aol.com
4) t-shirt status
by gilesmj@ccmail.apldbio.com
5) RISING POWER CD ORDER UPDATE
by TIM LODGE SGA/PRE-LAW/MICRO/MAC LABS <LODGE_TIM@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>
6) ytsejam shirts
by Mark Tedhams <markt@getnet.com>
7) Random Stuff
by mark.scudder@oho.com (Mark Scudder)
8) My boot list plus other stuff....
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
9) Re: I&W & Awake
by Godsize@aol.com
10) Publius
by Godsize@aol.com
11) Re: I&W & Awake
by Godsize@aol.com
12) DT in Atlanta, there may be hope :)
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
13) Re: I&W & Awake
by Garrett M Sanborne <gmsanbo@locke.ccil.org>
14) Kevin Moore with James Barton
by Evan Thomson <930377@edna.cc.swin.edu.au>
15) Re: I&W & Awake
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
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Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 08:56:38 -0500
From: John Mastin <jmastin@motown.ge.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Ytsejam shirts
Message-ID: <199412231356.IAA15929@cybertron>
> How do I order the Ytsejam shirt, and how much is it?
email Jason Giles at gilesmj@ccmail.apldbio.com
Mine were XXL at $15 each. Worth the investment. They even
glow in the dark. :D
Johnny
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Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 09:57:37 -0500
From: ACW1066@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: taping equipment
Message-ID: <941223095732_5510357@aol.com>
Mozo12 writes about getting Aiwa portables for $80 - $130. Where?? I assume
these don't have RCA inputs. If you want to tape shows, I recommend RCA
inputs, because that will get you into almost any soundboard with the right
patch cables. Also, a recorder with RCA inputs usually takes microphone
inputs better. The walkman really doesn't tape well at all. The cheapest
small portable with RCA's I have seen is over $200.
Digital- if you are going to go buy equipment now, starting from scratch -buy
DAT!!! - It has come way down in price. Wholesalers sell portable DAT's in
catalogs for $599. When you buy good analog equipment, you spend nearly that
much - so digital isn't far away - and the tapes last longer. Only thing is
that DAT tapes are expensive, but again - they are dropping in price everyday
and bulk orders from wholesalers get great prices. I have a number for
mailorder tapes - I have seen no lower prices (i.e. Maxell XLII-90s - $1.29 -
XLII-S's - $1.59 or $1.79, I forget) They have DAT too.
Minidisc - I think a balnk minidisc holds about 74minutes, and they are near
$10 apiece, so DAT is still more economical. A DAT tape is usually a 3 or 6
hour affair - also saves space in your archives, which becomes a
consideration when you have a million shows.
Now some bands don't allow DAT. I am not sure of the taping interests of most
on this net. It sounds like a SBD patch at a DT show doesn't happen. But
there are other bands who allow board patches, so that;s what I am basing my
experience on. I also happen to know someone who talked to members of the
Black Crowes about taping, and it looks like SBD patches will beallowed at
their shows, if you know who to talk to. They've always been cool about
taping.
So with all this talk of some members of DT hating bootlegs, and others being
cool with it, does DT officially allow taping? If so, SBD's or audience? If
they don't allow it, I'd like to know how some of your tapes are, since
covert recording is always lower in quality than a good shotgun mike setup
perfectly placed and undisturbed. With all the tapes that seem to be out
there, I was making assumptions. Anyone want to fill in those of us who are
newer and unsure of DT's policy, and where the master tapes come from that
get bootlegged?
Sorry for the length, but I've seen really really long posts here before, so
I assumed it wasn't a big problem.
PEACE
Andy
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Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 10:39:37 -0500
From: TTubbiola@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 625
Message-ID: <941223103931_5534938@aol.com>
Merry Christmas to all and to all a good DT night!
"The spider in the window" |<Dream Theater: Voices>
"The angel in the pool" |
"The old man takes the poison" | Tom Tubbiola
"Now the widow makes the rules"| TTubbiola@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 23 Dec 94 11:10:03 PDT
From: gilesmj@ccmail.apldbio.com
To: freaks@anthor.arastar.com, ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com,
Subject: t-shirt status
Message-ID: <9411237882.AA788209803@ccmail.apldbio.com>
one last shirt update for 1994:
Those who still need to send money (amount):
Beach (40), Bibb (28), Bickers($45.50), Blomgren ($18), Boerio (14),
Breitweg(70), Cashman (31), Dahlstrom (14), Darmstedter(29), Drew(35),
Epstein(14), Ferguson(40), Frederickson(15), Gavic(36), Gemmill(68),
Cutajar (28), Keast(14), Kirmani(28), Love(60), Mallery(30), Marquez(15),
Matuszek(14), Nantais(14), Nuzum(14), Paukette(15), Pelenur(28), Reubish(28),
Ruhlig(29), Selee(15), Slauson(29), Stoner(14), Toscan(14), Unsal(14),
Villa(18), Weychert(14), Whiteley(14), Yoder(14)
as you can see, it is a large sum of money that I will need to pay off all of
the shirts when I get them. PLEASE get your money to me if you are on the list.
If you are not on the list above, and you did get an order confirmation from me
then you are ok!
Current Status:
Dream Theater Shirts: All who have paid have been mailed a shirt as of 12/23/94
Dream Theater Sweatshirts: Have not received yet, will get them in early Jan.
All other T's, Sweats, and Boxers: Have not received yet, will get them in
early Jan.
Thanks for your patience, I will ship as soon as I receive the items! Happy
holidays!
jason
gilesmj@ccmail.apldbio.com
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Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 15:07:00 -0500 (EST)
From: TIM LODGE SGA/PRE-LAW/MICRO/MAC LABS <LODGE_TIM@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: RISING POWER CD ORDER UPDATE
Message-ID: <941223150700.20a20cab@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>
UPDATE ON RISING POWER:Power to the People CD ORDER
****17 year old Mike Portnoy's Band****
I should know within a week or so if I can get the cd's. If I can then
I am going to try to get between 15-30. Right now I have about 15,16
orders for them, and if you'd like to be confirmed on my list to receive
a cd (like a preorder) then send email to :
Thanks!
tim
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Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 15:58:32 -0700 (MST)
From: Mark Tedhams <markt@getnet.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ytsejam shirts
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.90.941223154920.6945A-100000@gn1.getnet.com>
Hi,
What are the ytsejam shirts that everyone is talking about? Where can I
get one and how much are they. Would somebody get back with me on this.Thanx
- Mr.T
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Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 20:43:00 GMT
From: mark.scudder@oho.com (Mark Scudder)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Random Stuff
Message-ID: <941223194408107@oho.com>
Hi all! Merry Christmas to all on the list. Just a few things
that I need to ask:
1. With all the talk about recording DT shows, I'd just like to
know how someone goes about making a sound board bootleg. I absolutely
love Lost In The Sky, but I'm oblivious as to how someone walks into a
show like that and just patches into DT's sound board.
2. Are there any decent CD boots (hopefully soundboard) from the
Awake tour yet?
3. I'm interested in getting the vinyl Lie single (VERY
interested), but the local music store around here that can usually
order me *anything* (which so far has been LITS, DoE, Japaneese Awake,
and the UK Lie CD single) can't seem to get it. I'd hate to have to ask
anyone to buy me one, let me reimburse them, and then attempt to get it
to the states in one piece. Any ideas?
4. Somebody in France, I think, said about a week ago that he
could get copies of I&W and Awake on vinyl. I know the message was
intended for someone else, but I WANT IT ALL!!! :-) It would really
make Christmas complete if I saw a message in my mailbox in a couple
days with an answer to this one. I collect a lot of vinyl just for the
novelty of it, and I&W and Awake on vinyl would just do it for me.
5. Finally -- where's all the Kevin Moore News I was so used to
quite a few months ago? I'm starting to feel we've lost touch with an
important part of DT's musicianship. I'm really looking forward to any
and all solo projects he embarks on.
Again -- Merry Christmas to one and all!
Mark Scudder
(mark.scudder@oho.com)
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 22:37:48 -0500 (EST)
From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: My boot list plus other stuff....
Message-ID: <199412240337.WAA01725@umbc9.umbc.edu>
Hi all! Merry Christmas!
I spent a few hours last night and finally got all of my boots together
in a nice list. Please mail me if you would like to see a copy.
I didn't wanna clog up the whole digest with it. It has lots of cool
DT stuff ( not alot of regular live shows but alot of the rare, out of
the ordinary stuff ), a few Fates shows, one Cynic audio and one Extreme
video. CHeck it out!
Is there someone on the Ytsejam that will be able to tape this possible
pay-per-view show that is going to be in Japan? I'm sure many
Jamers would be interested. Also, has anyone else heard more about
the possible "all covers" show? I'm hoping to get a copy of this.
Someone said something about the band wanting to record it for future use.
This means that somewhere , there will be some good soundboard recordings
floating around.
**************************************************************************
* Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu *
* *
* You're fighting the weight of the world, *
* and no one can save you this time. *
* Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. *
* *
* "Take the Time" - Dream Theater *
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Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 22:49:56 -0500
From: Godsize@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: I&W & Awake
Message-ID: <941223224952_6043280@aol.com>
I think that IAW is better than Awake mainly because of two things. One
because it is more progressive. With songs like Metroplis and Take the Time
which totally focus on the instruments IAW just buries Awake. Another thing
is the over all mood. IAW and words was a very "happy" uplifting album which
is a chage from everything now-a-days. Awake is much more depresssing just
like most of the music out there.
Just my 2 cents.
Trey
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Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 22:50:37 -0500
From: Godsize@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Publius
Message-ID: <941223225035_6046136@aol.com>
I just wanted to say that I just read about Pink Floyd and Publius and I
thought that it was so cool. Ireally wish that DT, Rush, QR, or FW would do
something like that because I actually know something about these bands.
What do you guys think?
Trey
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Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 22:54:00 -0500
From: Godsize@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: I&W & Awake
Message-ID: <941223225400_6048314@aol.com>
>Awake is not the kind of album
>you play with your CD-player on 'shuffle'.
I do TEE Hee.
Trey
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Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 22:13:53 -0800 (PST)
From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT in Atlanta, there may be hope :)
Message-ID: <199412240613.AA09580@crl7.crl.com>
Atlanta's longtime rock station, 96rock, is undergoing a slight
"facelift" in its format, since the alternative station here, 99X,
recently blazed past them slightly in the ratings. They are now
playing slightly more energetic (and newer) stuff, especially at
night, much to the deejays' delight. They recently added, e.g., Green
Day, Corrosion of Conformity and QR's "The Bridge," so there may be
hope for Dream Theater on the radio here after all!
Requests for DT material from AWAKE can be made to 404-741-9696.
Calling at night is fine, but calling during the day might get more
attention from their programming folks. On that note, their office
number is 325-0960, program director is Michael Hughes. Short of
dragging the upper muckity-mucks out to listen to AWAKE, I don't know
how to get them to -listen- to it; I have given an extra cassette to
one deejay friend of mine there, who is now muttering "Six-o-clock on
a Christmas morning!" in his sleep. :)
Because of 96rock's format change, this is the best time in quite a
while to try and have them play DT. If you're local to Atlanta --
hell, even if you aren't! -- please support the band as much as you
can.
-- ............ Paul W. Cashman vanyel@crl.com ................... Though we live in trying times, we're the ones who have to try Though we know that time has wings, we're the ones who have to fly ................ "Everyday Glory" N. Peart .....................------------------------------
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 1994 03:41:36 -0500 (EST) From: Garrett M Sanborne <gmsanbo@locke.ccil.org> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: I&W & Awake Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9412240302.A1869-0100000@locke.ccil.org>
On Fri, 23 Dec 1994 Godsize@aol.com wrote:
> is the over all mood. IAW and words was a very "happy" uplifting album which > is a chage from everything now-a-days. Awake is much more depresssing just > like most of the music out there. > I agree! More songs like Surrounded !!! Gman
*-------------------------------------------------------------------------* | Garrett M. Sanborne gmsanbo@locke.ccil.org | | gmsanbo@chopin.udel.edu | | A harp is a nude piano. :) | *-------------------------------------------------------------------------*
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Date: Sat, 24 Dec 1994 21:35:53 +1100 (EDT) From: Evan Thomson <930377@edna.cc.swin.edu.au> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Kevin Moore with James Barton Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9412242153.C21588-a100000@edna.cc.swin.edu.au>
Howdy folks, I found some interesting news from a guy I was talking to on IRC today. Turns out he was working in some recording studio in Wisconsin. (Don't ask me!, I'm from Australia - that's all the detail I can remeber or understant). Anyway, .......
he met our dear departed Kevin there.
with James Barton from Queensryche production fame (so I'm told)
So there you go, who knows what this means, but it seems as though Kevin may be working with him.
I certainly hope we see or hear something from him soon!
Evan.
"...and whatever rhymes with eloquent" - Mr. Knowitall, PRIMUS.
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Date: Sat, 24 Dec 1994 02:52:24 PST From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: I&W & Awake Message-ID: <199412241052.CAA10702@netcom10.netcom.com>
After starting this original thread... I will add some of my own opinions and observations...
I would like to first mention that Awake is an INCREDIBLE album. It has incredible rhythm, power and time changes. It has an interesting cohesiveness to it. BUT...
I would have to say, Images and Words distances Awake by a shot. I&W has a progressiveness and feel to it which no other album ever made by any other band has even came close to. It is also far more technical then Awake, which I like a lot. I&W is a masterpiece. A musical menage of progressiveness.
When I listen to Awake and then I&W, I can't help to think of two different bands. The more down to earth, crunching Awake and the more sophisticated, complex I&W...
While songs on Awake such as Scarred, Space Dye Vest, and A Mind Beside Itself outshine any song written by any other progressive rock/metal band, songs such as Metropolis, Under a Glass Moon, TTT, Learning to Live are pure MONUMENTS (Fates Warning - Inside Out)...
:)
-The Doc
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