Contents:
Re: Old DT Article (Aaron Lafferty <lafferty@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu>)
Re: Marillion & DT (Aaron Lafferty <lafferty@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu>)
Images and Words (pdaugher@mcl.bdm.com (Pat Daugherty))
Revenge of the Nerds! (ASILVERM@umiami.ir.miami.edu)
Re: bootlegs (I LOVE PICKLES <SCRIVANO_GAR@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>)
DoE packaging (BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>)
Re: YTSEJAM digest 331 (khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson))
Gothic Gout (MAGUIRE SEAN SCOTT <maguires@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>)
REG: Majesty (Phillip Felicia <FELICI53@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>)
REG: Syrinx (Phillip Felicia <FELICI53@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>)
i was wondering if anyone (steve wisinski <97WISINSKI@alma.edu>)
Re: Marillion & DT (William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>)
Re: Time Sigs for I&W ("james (j.) wolf" <jwolf@bnr.ca>)
Re: Images and Words (Aaron Lafferty <lafferty@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu>)
Re: Images and Words (Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>)
(lee@ecn.purdue.edu (Lee T Sprague))
RE: REG: Majesty ("I REGRET THAT I HAVE BUT ONE LIFE TO GIVE TO MY SGA." <LODGE_TIM@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>)
Re: Marillion & DT ("Jeff Gray" <jgray@ichips.intel.com>)
Balls & Chunk (ASILVERM@umiami.ir.miami.edu)
MIDI computer files (Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>)
Re: Images and Words ("Lawrence K. Lo" <lorentz@soda.berkeley.edu>)
Re: shirts ("Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>)
Re: Marillion & DT (zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill))
Re: Images and Words (zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill))
Re: Time Sigs for I&W ("Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>)
Re: shirts ("Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>)
Re: Old DT Article ("Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>)
Re: shirts ("Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>)
Re: YTSEJAM digest 331 ("Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>)
Re: Gothic Gout ("Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>)
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 08:56:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Aaron Lafferty <lafferty@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu>
Subject: Re: Old DT Article
Concerning the old article, no i havent read it... why dont ya
type it up and post it for us? :)
The shadow I've been hiding in has fled from me today.
I know its easier to walk away then look it in they eye.
I would raise a shelter to the sky...and here
beneath this star tonight I lie.... "All I want is the same as
--Dream Theater "Surrounded"-- everyone, why am I here?
And for how long?"
--Queensryche "Eyes of a Stranger"--
Aaron
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 08:59:20 -0500 (EST)
From: Aaron Lafferty <lafferty@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu>
Subject: Re: Marillion & DT
On Tue, 22 Feb 1994, Jeff Gray wrote:
> Jason Hartman asked on the net about Marillion and how they compare to
> DT. I would say the keyboard intro to "Status Seeker" is VERY Marillion-ish,
> I would even say intentionally (the chorus of SS reminds me of Journey, though).
> I don't have any post-Fish albums, but I would say Fugazi or Misplaced
> Childhood are good albums to start with (Fugazi is more "progressive"
> than the rest).
>
If you want to start out... just get La Gazza Ladra.. or the Thieving Magpie
its a double live concert album with superb recording :)
give you an overview of four different albums
The shadow I've been hiding in has fled from me today.
I know its easier to walk away then look it in they eye.
I would raise a shelter to the sky...and here
beneath this star tonight I lie.... "All I want is the same as
--Dream Theater "Surrounded"-- everyone, why am I here?
And for how long?"
--Queensryche "Eyes of a Stranger"--
Aaron
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 94 11:08 EST
From: pdaugher@mcl.bdm.com (Pat Daugherty)
Subject: Images and Words
I was wondering how many people feel that Images and Words is their
favorite album of all time.
--Pat Daugherty
pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 11:16:50 -0500 (EST)
From: ASILVERM@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Subject: Revenge of the Nerds!
Don't be silly guys! Internet Digest should definitely be on all the shirts.
I wear my NMS shirt proudly all the time, I am NOT a nerd in any sense of the
word, the only people who laugh at the email address on my clothing are, shall
we say. . .nerds? The average person either has no idea or thinks it's kind of
neat. Believe me, the nerd or not to nerd opinion people have of you has very
little to do with the words on your shirt. It's just those computer nerds who
think "computer nerd" when they see that stuff! Not that there's anything
wrong with being a computer nerd, just be proud of who you are and people will
respect you. Trust me. :)
Of course, if that was a joke then replace the above paragraph with "ha ha.
Funny joke man!" :)
Aaron
ASILVERM@UMIAMI
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 11:24:18 -0500 (EST)
From: I LOVE PICKLES <SCRIVANO_GAR@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>
Subject: Re: bootlegs
The same thing happened to me when I picked up DoE on disc. I have yet
to pick up another case even though I keep telling myself I must.
I've been telling myself this since the day I bought the 2 cd set (which
coincidentally was the first day it came out) later, Gary
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 11:24:10 -0700 (MST)
From: BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: DoE packaging
Has anyone picked up a copy of DoE that didn't have a screwed up
case? A friend of mine and I both bought it from a store in San
Mateo, CA, and the teeth on the case didn't break, but they were
originally too small to hold the CDs. (They had a tiny bit of room to
slide around. I guess it's those crazy Italians.
"Balls and chunk is where it's at."
-Adam Bertapelle
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 94 11:41:37 MST
From: khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson)
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 331
Uh, the transcription of Take the Time has in it 9/8
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 11:43:09 -0700 (MST)
From: MAGUIRE SEAN SCOTT <maguires@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: Gothic Gout
I have to say that I agree with Mr. Bertapele and Mr. Stackhouse. The
phrase "Balls and chunk," may at first seem a bit crude, or even ofensive
to some of the lesser fans of DT - the people who, if you will, are not
DT lovers. The first reaction would be to join more capricious DT fans,
and insist that "let light surround you," is a more apropriate quote, as
it would propitiate the hordes of ignorant pop music fans who don't
understand the full power of DT's music, and would be less likely
to offend the establishment. The fact remains, however, that this
reasoning merely promotes profligacy within the DT community, because
propitiating the masses is synonomous with "selling out." Logicaly,
then, the more devout DT fans, who know that DT by its very nature
couldn't sell out, would choose the quote that points out this fact:
"Balls and chunk is where it's at" So I say Mr. Stackhouse's idea is a
good one. Let there be two shirts. One for those who don't quite
understand DT, and the other - "Balls and chunk is where it's at" - for
the more devote DT fans.
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 13:41:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Phillip Felicia <FELICI53@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>
Subject: REG: Majesty
This is a list of all of the Dream Theater albums that I know of:
"Dream Theater while performing as MAJESTY"
"When Dream And Day Unite"
"Live At The Marquee" (Imported from Japan)
"Live At The Marquee" (Warner Bros. Release)
"Images And Words"
"Live From Japan" (Video)
The first album is a re-release of an album by a band containing three of the
current Dream Theater members. This band was called 'MAJESTY' which makes some
sense of the name 'YTSEJAM'.
If you know of any other albums, or have some info about the new one, Share it.
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 13:54:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Phillip Felicia <FELICI53@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>
Subject: REG: Syrinx
The following is a host where you can download assorted RUSH files from.
> FTP SYRINX.UMD.EDU
(after prime hours/ login: anonymous password: username)
> Gopher SYRINX.UMD.EDU 2112
(after prime hours)
This contains GIFs, tour info, stories, lyrics, MIDI files, ...
If anyone knows of a similar service with Dream Theater files, I'd appreciate
it.
Phil Felicia
FELICI53@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 14:45:22 -0500 (EST)
From: steve wisinski <97WISINSKI@alma.edu>
Subject: i was wondering if anyone
i was wondering if anyone could give me some ftp sites for Dt (or any other
groups for that matter, but Dt would be the shits) music, lyrics, pictures.
i know there was a big discussion on some pictures a while ago but i just
got ftp privledges and i'm not really sure on how to use it. any help would
be surely appreciated. thanks
steve wisinski
97wisinski@alma.edu
"The Wiz! The Master!"
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 14:51:47 -0500 (EST)
From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Marillion & DT
I listened to some Marillion album a while back and I didn't like it. It
was to folk-y and love-song-y. The lyrics were also pretty corny, even
for love songs.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Bill Bajzek
impaler+@cmu.edu
wb2a@andrew.cmu.edu
aq617@yfn.ysu.edu
ak808@freenet.hsc.colorado.edu
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 18:12:00 +0000
From: "james (j.) wolf" <jwolf@bnr.ca>
Subject: Re: Time Sigs for I&W
In Time Sigs for I&W, "Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu> says:
> Learning To Live
>00:00 All sorts of fun stuff, but jumps around too much to worry about.
>01:12 Alternating measures of 7/4 and 6/4.
>02:41 4/4
>03:10 Back to original 7/4, 6/4 Sig.
>04:01 7/4
>04:12 4/4
>04:39 7/4
>04:57 4/4
>05:10 6/4
>05:30 4/4
>08:10 "Waits For Sleep" mystery time Sig.
>08:40 4/4
>08:53 "WFS" mystery Sig again.
>09:07 4/4 with other fun stuff to the end.
>
>
>
> IT'S OVER!!!
>
>Anyone who comes up with the mystery Sig, or the other's that I can't get,
>please tell me!! Hope you enjoy this stuff as much as I do!!! Until next
>time, Party On!!!
The "Wait for Sleep" mystery time Sig is (at least how I count it):
08:10 3 bars of 5/8, 1 of 4/8, 3 of 6/8 and 1 of 4/8 (repeat 3 times)
3 bars of 5/8, 1 of 4/8, 4 of 6/8 (and into John P.'s solo).
08:40 Counting at the same rate, this would actually be in 6/8,
though you could count things in triplets and consider it 4/4.
This kind of makes it hard to go in and out of the
"WFS" mystery sig. though.
08:53 3 bars of 5/8, 1 of 4/8, 3 of 6/8 and 1 of 4/8 (repeat 3 times)
3 bars of 5/8, 1 of 4/8, 4 of 6/8 (into Kevin's solo).
Happy Counting
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Wolf Man
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 21:10:37 -0500 (EST)
From: Aaron Lafferty <lafferty@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu>
Subject: Re: Images and Words
On Wed, 23 Feb 1994, Pat Daugherty wrote:
> I was wondering how many people feel that Images and Words is their
> favorite album of all time.
>
>
> --Pat Daugherty
> pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com
>
i do
The shadow I've been hiding in has fled from me today.
I know its easier to walk away then look it in they eye.
I would raise a shelter to the sky...and here
beneath this star tonight I lie.... "All I want is the same as
--Dream Theater "Surrounded"-- everyone, why am I here?
And for how long?"
--Queensryche "Eyes of a Stranger"--
Aaron
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 19:15:48 -40962758 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
Subject: Re: Images and Words
>
> I was wondering how many people feel that Images and Words is their
> favorite album of all time.
I rank it just below Rush's Moving Pictures, the best ever, and
my #2, Boston's self titled. It really is quite a fantastic album.
Mike
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 94 21:22:37 -0500
From: lee@ecn.purdue.edu (Lee T Sprague)
Subject:
Alright, hold it one bleepity second. It seems everyone has DoE but me.
Where do you get this disc? I'm at Purdue in Indiana, but I'm from
Milwaukee, WI. I can't seem to find it. Anyone in these two areas (or
anywhere for that matter) have a suggestion? I'm left out...
Thanks.
Lee
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 21:42:45 -0500 (EST)
From: "I REGRET THAT I HAVE BUT ONE LIFE TO GIVE TO MY SGA." <LODGE_TIM@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>
Subject: RE: REG: Majesty
don't to add
THE MAJESTY DEMOS 1986, 1987, AND 1988.
JAPANESE IMPORT OF LIVE AT THE MARQUEE
I'VE HEARD OF AN IMPORT OF THE KOREAN VERSION OF LIVE AT THE MARQUEE
WHICH HAS LEARNING TO LIVE, TAKE THE TIME, AND A FEW OTHERS ALSO ON IT.
Tim Lodge
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 18:45:55 -0800 (PST)
From: "Jeff Gray" <jgray@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Marillion & DT
>
> I listened to some Marillion album a while back and I didn't like it. It
> was to folk-y and love-song-y. The lyrics were also pretty corny, even
> for love songs.
>
Wow, if there were ever adjectives I would use to describe Fish's lyrics
(from Marillion's first four albums) they would NOT be "folk-y and
love-song-y"! I think they're some of the most poetic lyrics I've heard.
I would put them ahead of DT and even Rush only because of the imagery
they provoke. (DT's lyrics really bother me sometimes, e.g., "Unbroken
spirit obscured and disquiet finds clearness this trial demands" -- kinda
reads like the Bill of Rights...)
- jeff
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 21:52:53 -0500 (EST)
From: ASILVERM@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Subject: Balls & Chunk
Sorry to ask a dumb question, but where does "Balls & Chunk are where it's at"
come from? Is it a Mike Portnoy quote, and what exactly is its context?
Aaron
ASILVERM@UMIAMI
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 22:58:09 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
Subject: MIDI computer files
I was just wondering what would be involved in making (or recording) a
*.MID file for a PC. I have downloaded a bunch of MIDI files from the
RUSH server, and they are pretty cool. The files are also VERY small.
The biggest file is just over 50k. I know that WAV files are HUGE
compared to this. They also have a really cool sound to them. Anyone
know how to go about making them?
-- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The way your heart sounds makes all the difference | | It's what decides if you'll endure the pain that we all feel | | The way your heart beats makes all the difference | | In learning to live | | Dream Theater Learning To Live Images and Words | | Michael Burstin Brandeis University | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Let's Go Pens Let's Go Pens Lets Go Pens Let's Go Pens | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu------------------------------
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 20:07:22 -0800 From: "Lawrence K. Lo" <lorentz@soda.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Images and Words
I do.
LarrY [Very laconic]
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 21:49:57 -0800 (PST) From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> Subject: Re: shirts
> Enough talk about the f*cking shirts. This thread has been alive > for 2 months now. Are they going to be made or not?
Hey! Relax! Near as I can tell, the folks over on the BOC/Hawkwind list have yet to reach a consensus on THEIR shirts....and they were at it when I first subscribed. --Last September or October. (!)
-- ............. Paul W. Cashman vanyel@crl.com ................... Though we live in trying times, we're the ones who have to try Though we know that time has wings, we're the ones who have to fly ................. "Everyday Glory" N. Peart .....................
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 94 21:34:56 PST From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) Subject: Re: Marillion & DT
I bought Fugazi. Too funky for my blood. And too light.
Zach
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 94 21:42:46 PST From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) Subject: Re: Images and Words
I was wondering how many people feel that Images and Words is their favorite album of all time.
--Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com ____________
Close. Right up there with Hold Your Fire, Master of Puppets, and Lovedrive (or Savage Amusement). And, of course, WDADU.
Zach
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 23:45:50 -0600 (CST) From: "Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu> Subject: Re: Time Sigs for I&W
I'll have to check up on this, but I'm pretty sure that it's 4/4 and then it goes into 3/4, but that's just off the top of my head, and I'll have to go back to the video and check that out.
On Tue, 22 Feb 1994, Jeff Gray wrote:
> > > > Alright, you asked for them and here they are, the Time Sigs for every > > song off I&W, as accurately as I can do them. If anyone finds something > > that I don't have, feel free to tell me, and If anyone thinks different on > > some of the sigs, I would love to discuss them. So here goes!!! > > > > Under A Glass Moon > > > > 02:08 4/4 Jumps around at the begining and end of solo, but main Sig > > Is 4/4. > > Somewhere before the guitar solo is a bit in 11/4. > > > > > Waits For Sleep > > > > This song has been a total pain in the Butt, I can play it on > > the piano, but I can't figure out the Sig. Any help would be great!!! > > The main theme of this song could be described as alternating measures of > 19/16 and 11/8, up through the lyrics "She shuts the doors and lights and > lays her body on the bed." The rhythmic pattern is | 5+5+5+4 | 6+6+6+4 :| > It might be best notated as 10/8, 9/16, 12/8, 10/8.... > > > > > Learning To Live > > 00:00 All sorts of fun stuff, but jumps around too much to worry about. > > Not really. The keyboard is playing a riff in 15 (3+3+2+2+2+3) throughout the > whole intro. The drums enter with a lot of odd bass-drum accents, but by the > time the rest of the band enters it's locked into a solid polyrhythm of 15/8 > on the keyboard against 15/4 on the guitar/bass. Cool. > > Now, if you can tell me what's going on at the beginning of The Ytse Jam... > --- > Jeff Gray > Intel Corporation "My wife won't let me date..." > jgray@ichips.intel.com - Howard Stern > Opinions mine, not Intel's
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 23:49:40 -0600 (CST) From: "Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu> Subject: Re: shirts
Computer Nerds? I'm totally insulted! I think that everyone on the Ytse Jam list is extremely proud to be a member, and to one of the few, a shirt advertising the net would make me proud!!
On Tue, 22 Feb 1994, William T Bajzek wrote:
> How about some without "The Dream Theater Internet Digest" for those of > us who don't want to broadcast that we're computer nerds? > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Bajzek > impaler+@cmu.edu > wb2a@andrew.cmu.edu > aq617@yfn.ysu.edu > ak808@freenet.hsc.colorado.edu
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 23:52:22 -0600 (CST) From: "Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu> Subject: Re: Old DT Article
I haven't read this, but would love to get a copy of it!! Does that issue have any guitar tips from the two in it?
On Tue, 22 Feb 1994 James=Utz%Mech%PCPD=Hou@bangate.compaq.com wrote:
> > Howdy DT fans, > > I found an article about DT when I was flipping through an old Guitar > magazine (I almost threw it away... EEEK!). In the January 1990 issue of > Guitar Player, they review DT's debut album "When Dream And Day Unite". They > quote from Petrucci and Myung throughout the article, focusing on their > technique and equipment. Has anybody else read this? > > James > James=Utz%Mech%PCPD=Hou@bangate.compaq.com >
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 23:54:48 -0600 (CST) From: "Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu> Subject: Re: shirts
I was going to praise Mr. Bertapelle about his suggestion, but my server crashed before I had the chance. The shirts would truly be the ultimate!!!
On Tue, 22 Feb 1994, STACKHOUSE COLIN ANDREAS wrote:
> i'm with those balls and chunk people! I'm not going to plummet into > a verbose explanation as to why these shirts would be ultimate, since > I'm 100% behind Mr. Bertapelle (who appears to be one of the few real > DT lovers subscribed to this).Why not make 2 shirts available? 1 for > hard-core fans who know where it's at and another for less > enthusastic followers who are afraid their mothers might see them in > it. Just my $.02.
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 23:58:28 -0600 (CST) From: "Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 331
I'm aware of this, it is in 9/8, my bag!! I was thinking at the time I posted the Sig, a thing I normally don't do, it's bad for your health! Thanks for the correction!!!
On Wed, 23 Feb 1994, Ken Higginson wrote:
> Uh, the transcription of Take the Time has in it 9/8 >
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 22:09:44 -0800 (PST) From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> Subject: Re: Gothic Gout
> I have to say that I agree with Mr. Bertapele and Mr. Stackhouse. The > phrase "Balls and chunk," may at first seem a bit crude, or even ofensive > to some of the lesser fans of DT - the people who, if you will, are not > DT lovers. The first reaction would be to join more capricious DT fans, > and insist that "let light surround you," is a more apropriate quote, as > it would propitiate the hordes of ignorant pop music fans who don't > understand the full power of DT's music, and would be less likely > to offend the establishment. The fact remains, however, that this > reasoning merely promotes profligacy within the DT community, because > propitiating the masses is synonomous with "selling out." Logicaly, > then, the more devout DT fans, who know that DT by its very nature > couldn't sell out, would choose the quote that points out this fact: > "Balls and chunk is where it's at" So I say Mr. Stackhouse's idea is a > good one. Let there be two shirts. One for those who don't quite > understand DT, and the other - "Balls and chunk is where it's at" - for > the more devote DT fans.
In English, I think he said he'd prefer the "Balls and chunk" quote. :)
FWIW, I disagree (I like the Surrounded quote). > >
-- ............. Paul W. Cashman vanyel@crl.com ................... Though we live in trying times, we're the ones who have to try Though we know that time has wings, we're the ones who have to fly ................. "Everyday Glory" N. Peart .....................
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