YTSEJAM digest 331

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Date: Tue Feb 22 1994 - 15:25:35 EST

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    Contents:
    Re: Drum Solo on Live Tokyo (William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>)
    Re: Drum Solo on Live Tokyo (tisc@stud.uni-sb.de (Tim Schwartz))
    Mike Bahr, PLEASE READ (Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>)
    Re: Drum Solo on Live Tokyo (svanhooser@aol.com)
    Out of Town all week (Jason Hough <jason@jester.cts.com>)
    Hello DT fans! (whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (christophe white))
    Time Sigs for I&W ("Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>)
    Re: Mike Bahr, PLEASE READ (Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>)

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    Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 08:14:51 -0500 (EST)
    From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
    Subject: Re: Drum Solo on Live Tokyo

    Excerpts from mail: 20-Feb-94 Drum Solo on Live Tokyo by SMS012@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU
    > I don't know if this has already been brought up, but I was wondering
    if anyone
    > else out there caught the little Pantera riff in Mike's drum solo on the
    > Tokyo vid. It's straight from By Demons Be Driven (Not sure if that's
    the name
    > of the song as I don't have the tape with me now) from Vulgar Display
    of Power.
    > I was wondering if John P. played the guitar part or is it taken right from
    > Dime-bag Darrel's playing on the album? I'm leaning towards the
    latter because
    > it sounds SO identical. Just thought I throw this out to see if
    anyone bites.
    > Scott Spehar
    >

    It's a sample. It is completely identical to the album.

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    Bill Bajzek
    impaler+@cmu.edu
    wb2a@andrew.cmu.edu
    aq617@yfn.ysu.edu
    ak808@freenet.hsc.colorado.edu

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    Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 17:14:39 +0100 (CET)
    From: tisc@stud.uni-sb.de (Tim Schwartz)
    Subject: Re: Drum Solo on Live Tokyo

    >
    > I don't know if this has already been brought up, but I was wondering if anyone
    > else out there caught the little Pantera riff in Mike's drum solo on the
    > Tokyo vid. It's straight from By Demons Be Driven (Not sure if that's the name
    > of the song as I don't have the tape with me now) from Vulgar Display of Power.
    > I was wondering if John P. played the guitar part or is it taken right from
    > Dime-bag Darrel's playing on the album? I'm leaning towards the latter because
    > it sounds SO identical. Just thought I throw this out to see if anyone bites.
    > Scott Spehar
    >
    Hi,
    Yes I heard that too. I was in DT concert in Saarburg, Germany November last
    year. I think the guitarbit was sampled, 'cause it really sounded exactly
    like on CD. When I heard it I was very confused, 'cause I did now the
    Riff but couldn't remember where from. I defenitly knew it wasn't DT.
    Anyway great gimmick!!!

    bye

    Tim Schwartz
    'Love is the Dance of Eternity'

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    Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 16:09:28 -0500 (EST)
    From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
    Subject: Mike Bahr, PLEASE READ

    Sorry to post this here, but I have been trying to reach MIKE BAHR
    (garion@indirect.com) and I have had all mail returned to me. Please
    let me know if you have lost your account there, and now have a new
    address.

    Again, sorry to post this here.

    -- 
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
    |	  The way your heart sounds makes all the difference	       |
    |    It's what decides if you'll endure the pain that we all feel      |
    |	  The way your heart beats makes all the difference	       |
    |			 In learning to live			       |
    |	Dream Theater	Learning To Live	Images and Words       |
    |	Michael Burstin			     Brandeis University       |
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
    |  Let's Go Pens   Let's Go Pens	 Lets Go Pens	 Let's Go Pens |
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
    For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
    

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    Date: Mon, 21 Feb 94 18:06:44 EST From: svanhooser@aol.com Subject: Re: Drum Solo on Live Tokyo

    Yeah, my friend who likes Pantera said he thought it sounded similar...

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    Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 14:16:22 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Hough <jason@jester.cts.com> Subject: Out of Town all week

    Hey folks, sorry about the delay on finalizing the t-shirt plans! Things have been really crazy at work.

    Anyway, I'm going to be in San Jose all week for OS/2 training, so I probably wont be able to work on the shirt design this week either. :P

    So, please be patient, we WILL get them made soon.

    Any of you in the San Jose area? Drop me some mail at:

    jhough@qualcomm.com

    It would be cool to meet up for Pizza or something.

    Catch ya later...

    Jason Hough ytsejam-owner@bnf.com

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    Date: Tue, 22 Feb 94 00:23:14 EST From: whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (christophe white) Subject: Hello DT fans!

    I'm not new to the list... Well, kinda am. I used to be mh@acsu.buffalo.edu, but this cheap school finally gave me a unix account, so I'm me now ;) Basically just wanna know what's up with the new album being done. Anyone have any word on it? Oh, one more thing, does anyone knowq of a good radio station in Minneapolis? One that plays cool music, such as DT? (or along that lines?) Mail me or post it or whatever :) Thanks! Chris

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    Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 23:20:46 -0600 (CST) From: "Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu> Subject: Time Sigs for I&W

    Alright, you asked for them and here they are, the Time Sigs for every song off I&W, as accurately as I can do them. If anyone finds something that I don't have, feel free to tell me, and If anyone thinks different on some of the sigs, I would love to discuss them. So here goes!!!

    Time in the CD: Pull Me Under 00:00 4/4 to the first synth solo. 02:37 8/8 03:33 4/4 / 7/8 Guitar solo is in 7/8, original feel is 4/4 04:49 8/8 Double time again! 04:P58 7/8 same as before. 05:09 4/4 07:44 2/4 to the end.

    Another Day

    4/4 (a way slow 4/4) throughout the entire song.

    Take The Time

    00:00 4/4 (speeds increase, but it's still the same time Sig). Tons of little interludes, but main Sig is 4/4. 03:46 Beats the heck out of me, it's kind of like an untrue 5/8 Sig. 04:03 5/8 04:18 4/4 to the end.

    Surrounded

    00:00 4/ 4 01:17 increasing 4/4 01:22 9/8 02:15 4/4 Almost double time (heck, call it double time if you want). 02:44 9/4 03:10 4/4 " " " 04:32 Back to original 4/4 feel.

    Metropolis Part I

    00:00 4/4 with a few little 2/4 and 4/4 segments throughout 04:18 13/8 ? Anyone want to help with this one? 05:18 4/4 06:19 3/4, 4/4, and all sorts of junk in between. 08:04 6/8 08:28 4/4

    Under A Glass Moon

    00:00 4/4 after intro from guitar. 01:05 ? 01:19 Kind of bleeds into 6/4. 02:08 4/4 Jumps around at the begining and end of solo, but main Sig Is 4/4.

    Waits For Sleep

    00:00 ? 00:30 4/4 00:45 ? 00:53 4/4 in triplets to give it a 6/8 kind of feel. 02:02 ? This song has been a total pain in the Butt, I can play it on the piano, but I can't figure out the Sig. Any help would be great!!!

    Learning To Live 00:00 All sorts of fun stuff, but jumps around too much to worry about. 01:12 Alternating measures of 7/4 and 6/4. 02:41 4/4 03:10 Back to original 7/4, 6/4 Sig. 04:01 7/4 04:12 4/4 04:39 7/4 04:57 4/4 05:10 6/4 05:30 4/4 08:10 "Waits For Sleep" mystery time Sig. 08:40 4/4 08:53 "WFS" mystery Sig again. 09:07 4/4 with other fun stuff to the end.

    IT'S OVER!!!

    Anyone who comes up with the mystery Sig, or the other's that I can't get, please tell me!! Hope you enjoy this stuff as much as I do!!! Until next time, Party On!!!

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    Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 23:56:14 -40962758 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> Subject: Re: Mike Bahr, PLEASE READ

    Mike:

    My server crashed! (indirect.com) This is the first mail I have gotten all weekend. Try to bonce me another message. Mike

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