YTSEJAM digest 339

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Date: Mon Mar 07 1994 - 16:12:35 EST

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    Contents:
    ACOS guitar tab (first 1:20) (lerxst@Esy.COM (A Lerxst in Wonderland))
    Re: AOL's opinions on DT (Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>)
    Just a few more AOL comments... (Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>)
    Re: YTSEJAM digest 338 (khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson))
    Re: acos tablature ("Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>)

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    Date: Sun, 6 Mar 94 16:48:36 CST
    From: lerxst@Esy.COM (A Lerxst in Wonderland)
    Subject: ACOS guitar tab (first 1:20)

    some of you must not have gotten this the first time around, i am working
    on more of this, so be patient....

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    Well here is the first part of the ACOS tab i promised a long
    time ago. Each dash represents one 32nd note. I know some of
    the time sigs, rhythms, notes etc are probably wrong, but i am
    doing this from my head at work, so bear with it. Some of it
    is a wild ass guess, when i was trying to figure it out, and has
    become the way i play it, most of it at least fits, anyway. i
    will try to post more later this week...have fun!!!
     
    7/4

    --------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------
    8-7-5-----------5-4-2-----------------------------------
    --------------------------------5-4-2-----------2-0-----
    ----------------------------------------------------3---

    7/4

    --------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------
    ----------------------------------------2-------2---0---
    ----------------4-------5-------4-----------------------
    2---2-2-5---2-2-----2-2-----2-2-----0-------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------

    --------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------
    ----------------4-------5-------0-0-0---5---0---7\------
    2---2-2-5---2-2-----2-2-----2---------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------

    --------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------
    ----------------------------------------2-------2---0---
    ----------------4-------5-------4-----------------------
    2---2-2-5---2-2-----2-2-----2-2-----0-------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------

    4/4
    --------------------------------
    --------------------------------
    --------------------------------
    ----------------4-------5-------
    2---2-2-5---2-2-----2-2---------
    --------------------------------

    7/4 (??)
    --------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------
    -----------------11-9-----------------------------------
    --12---11-9----9------12-11-9-11-9----------------------
    9----9------12---------------------12------11-----------
    --------------------------------------------------------

    --------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------
    ----------------------------------------2-------2---0---
    ----------------4-------5-------4-----------------------
    2---2-2-5---2-2-----2-2-----2-2-----0-------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------

    --------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------
    ----------------4-------5-------0-0-2---5---0---7\------
    2---2-2-5---2-2-----2-2-----2---------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------

    --------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------
    ----------------------------------------2-------2---0---
    ----------------4-------5-------4-----------------------
    2---2-2-5---2-2-----2-2-----2-2-----0-------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------

    --------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------
    ----------------4-------5-------0-0-5---7---0---9\------
    2---2-2-5---2-2-----2-2-----2---------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------

    This next part I didn't feel like typing the whole thing, as it
    repeats. The way it goes is : ABABA then the next part starts at
    1:20, which I will post later when I have more time.

    "A Part, play 3 times"

    7/8 10/8

    ----------------------------|----------------------------------------
    ----------------------------|----------------------------------------
    ----------------------------|----------------------------------------
    --------4-------6---4-------|7-------6-------------------------------
    4---4-------4-----------4---|----4-------4---------------4---7---5---
    ----------------------------|----------------4---5---7---------------

    "B Part, play 3 times"

    7/8 10/8

    ----------------------------|----------------------------------------
    ----------------------------|----------------------------------------
    ----------------------------|----------------------------------------
    --------7-------9---7-------|10------9-------------------------------
    7---7-------7-----------7---|----7-------7---------------7---10--8---
    ----------------------------|----------------7---8---10--------------

    Email me with corrections, suggestions, additional tab, etc, since this
    is gonna be a very tough thing to get tabbed out..

    later...

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    Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 17:13:41 -40962758 (MST)
    From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
    Subject: Re: AOL's opinions on DT

    Well, other than the fact that Geddy Lee is a better bassist than John
    Myung, and that Neil Peart is easily a better drummer than Portnoy (one
    solo will confirm it for you) I think I agree with the AOL folks that the
    respoective members of Dream Theater are at the top of their instruments.
    La Brie's voice is right up there. I put it just above Lee and Geoff
    Tate. Moore has no peer on the keys. And Petrucci is really scaring Steve
    Vai and Joe Satriani these days...

    As much as I admire Portnoy as a drummer... listening to ONE of Neil
    Peart's solos from any time after 1976 or so, Portnoy's begins to seem
    uninspired and bland. And I think Portnoy's solo is great! It's just that
    Neil Peart's THAT GOOD. His solos have musical quality. The one he did
    for this year's tour is simply the best drum work ever put to tape. Neil
    even did a 15-minute drum solo called "The Pieces of Eight" a few years
    back for Modern Drummer, and it's the most musical drumming, and
    skillful, that I've heard in any format.

    I encourage anyone who likes DT a lot to, if they have not already...
    listen to a good dose of Rush. Dream Theater is such a great band IMHO
    because they pick up the "other possible tangent" of Rush from about
    1980. Rush had a choice to follow one of two musical paths; one of tight,
    concise music trying to express a lot with a little, and the one they had
    been doing before, of expressing things as carefully as possible even at
    the expense of structure and style. DT took the second path. I think
    songs such as Take the Time and Learning to Live are examples of where
    proper song structure COULD HAVE been far better, for what they were
    expressing. However it does not make those songs any less "real". They
    are still genuine and full of musical power.

    The similarities, finally, between DT and Rush blow my mind. Rush, also,
    broke wide open on their second album, and it had eight songs, including
    two particularly long thematic songs. The progression similarity between
    the bands really impresses me...

    Long live Rush and DT!!!

    - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + -
    Mike/garion@indirect.com/Snow Dog of Prismatic Force Designs/sydest.com
    Likely or not, it's a dream that we keep, and at odds with our senses we'll
    climb. But if faith is the answer, we've already reached it, and if spirit's
    a sign, then it's only a matter of time... -Dream Theater
    - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + - + -

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    Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 19:50:52 -0500 (EST)
    From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
    Subject: Just a few more AOL comments...

    Just a few more of the AOL comments that I found somewhere else, then
    I'll leave the AOL bit alone, unless I find something interesting...

    (to write to anyone that I am posting, add @aol.com to the from line
    listed...)

    >From: LERXSTMAN
    >Yeah, I had the fortune of hearing Images & Words first, and I too was
    >blown away. How about those off-time signatures and time changes--I
    >mean whoaaaa. Well, what else would expect from a band where all of
    >its members (well except the lead singer now) have their masters
    >degrees in music from Berkley. Talk about talent and intelligence.
    >It can be truly said that they are the Masters of rock. (hee-hee)
    >
    >Anyway, I DO like WDADU, but of course I&W is better. LeBrie is a
    >much better vocalist and he has a better image too. I don't hate the
    >old vocalist (Charlie Dominici), but he just didn't quite "click" with
    >me the way James does.
    >
    >Keep up the POSTS!!!!!!!!!!
    >
    >"Every breath leaves me one less to my last . . ."

    >From: LERXSTMAN
    >
    >This may be in the FAQ, (I haven't seen it yet), but did you know . . .
    >
    >That When Day and Dream Unite was their final project for their
    >masters degree?

    [now this is an intersting one... anyone that knows the guys, try to
    find out more on this!!!]

    >Subj: BERKLEE!!! Not Berkeley.
    >From: MelH564881
    >People, its Berklee! Not Berkeley! Berklee is the ultimate musician
    >school in Boston, and the other one is UC Berkeley. DM's members went
    >to BERKLEE. And if you look at the list of Berklee grads, no wonder
    >they're so good. Graduated or not, that's not the point. Being there
    >in that atmosphere is enough to stimulate creativity and musicianship.
    >The competition is incredible!

    >Subj: Re:Inexperience....
    >From: LisaPG
    >
    >I just got I&W and thought the music is incredible....I see what you
    >all have been saying now....Very intelligent musicianship and GREAT
    >KEYBOARDS!!! I must admit (Please don't jump on me!) that they remind
    >me in style of Queensryche (who I also really like). Mostly the
    >vocals and swift tempo, mood-creating changes with an added bonus of
    >KEYBOARDS! Thanks for letting me in on some new sounds!

    >Subj: DT opening
    >From: Axe Mann
    >
    >Frankly, I don't think I would want to see DT open for anybody. I saw
    >them on the recent tour as headliners, and it was, shall we say,
    >worthwhile. They have so much long material that they would probably
    >only get to play two songs if they opened up the show!!! Plus, their
    >light show was really good for a small venue. It would be interesting
    >to see what they could do in a larger hall with lights and lasers.
    >Let's hope they sell enough albums in the future for us to find out.

    Well, that's the most impresive stuff that I saw... looks like there
    is a real following there also... I have made several posts trying to
    recruit people to YTSEJAM...

    -- 
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
    |	  The way your heart sounds makes all the difference	       |
    |    It's what decides if you'll endure the pain that we all feel      |
    |	  The way your heart beats makes all the difference	       |
    |			 In learning to live			       |
    |	Dream Theater	Learning To Live	Images and Words       |
    |	Michael Burstin			     Brandeis University       |
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
    |  Let's Go Pens   Let's Go Pens	 Lets Go Pens	 Let's Go Pens |
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
    For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
    

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    Date: Sun, 6 Mar 94 21:00:19 MST From: khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson) Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 338

    Hey, FAQ guy:

    The least you could do is give me credit, since you insist on using my "Dream Theater" graphic...

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    Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 22:53:15 -0600 (CST) From: "Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu> Subject: Re: acos tablature

    Post The Tab!!! Post The Tab!!! Anyone and everyone who has some, POST THE TAB!!! Thanks guys!

    On Sun, 6 Mar 1994, Jonathan P. Larkowski wrote:

    > > i thought some of you out there wanted guitar tab to be posted... > > You betcha! Keep posting tab. I hope to get DoE soon, so it would be nice to > have a start on ACOS. And if anyone requests it, I know most of the parts of > most of the songs on I&W, and a couple off the LIT video. Just ask. > > > Lark > "I eat the Holy Bible. I am the plague" --Fight > .DigitalDoctor* BBS

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