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    Re: DT outside of the US (Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>)
    Majesty Demos/Audition tapes (WaKKo! <klg40528@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>)
    DT Boots, etc (Stephan Dobay <sdobay@wam.umd.edu>)
    Re: new cd boot! ("Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>)
    Re: A very random question ("Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>)
    Re: no flame fests! ("Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>)
    sound files (I Hate Grunge <pdaugher@bdmserver>)
    DoE (whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White))
    Re: YTSEJAM digest 353 (khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson))
    Random Thoughts to enlighen and PISS YOU OFF! (William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>)
    ? about bootleg tapes (A_Dream_Theater_Fanatic@cs.brandeis.edu,)
         Searching for boot... ("Doug Slauson" <DRSLAUS@msae.cae.wisc.edu>)
    Re: band info (smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve Mansfield))
    DT Interview (mike.masi@chowda.sbs.com (Mike Masi))
    Ogden!?!? (The Alchemist <alchemy@xmission.xmission.com>)
    Where Day and Dream Unite (mo1amy4 <mo1amy4@greenwich.ac.uk>)
    dream out loud (lerxst@Esy.COM (Brian V. Cox))
    Re: A very random question (olive@orph23.phy.ornl.gov (Don Olive))
    LaBrie and Iron Maiden (James=Utz%Mech%PCPD=Hou@bangate.compaq.com)
    ACOS lyrics... (Brent Phillips <panther@clove.lcs.mit.edu>)
    Re: Dave Re knows all (ccoprdr@acme.gatech.edu (Dave Re))
    Re:Magellan (stmpyjcat@aol.com)

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    Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 13:22:28 -0800 (PST)
    From: Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>
    Subject: Re: DT outside of the US

    > Well, since I'm a "semi-international reader" (Polish, living temporarily
    > in US), I can say how I got introduced to Dream Theater: by email friend
    > living Poland. Some time around Nov of 92, while we were discussing our
    > all-time favorite group Queensryche, Pawel suggested I check out Dream
    > Theater. He told me, he had been hearing this amazing song called "Pull Me
    > Under" on Polish radio... it turned out I heard the song already a few times
    > here as well, thought it was incredible but didn't catch a name of the band
    > (these things take me some time :) Last year, while on my vacation in Warsaw,
    > I saw a few I&W copies in some record stores over there. I asked in each one
    > I walked into, just to create mass confusion in the ones that didn't have
    > it... :) Also, Pawel has been telling me that Live At Marquee is easily
    > available over there right now.

    hmm, i was in poland, last summer, and i told one of my friends there
    to check out DT. he mailed me a few months later that he found Images
    and Words, and he really likes it, but couldn't find any other stuff.
    so the good friend that i am, i sent him some stuff, including the
    dances of eternity boot. He'll get it in the next couple of weeks,
    and i think he will love DT even more.

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    Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 23:13:42 -0600
    From: WaKKo! <klg40528@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
    Subject: Majesty Demos/Audition tapes

    I'm interested in getting copies of these tapes. If anyone (in the U.S.) could
    help me out, I'd appreciate it.

    thanks,
    k.goodwin
    university of illinois

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    Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 01:26:35 -0500
    From: Stephan Dobay <sdobay@wam.umd.edu>
    Subject: DT Boots, etc

    All right, I admit to just getting into DT with IAW. Finally, the rock
    band that I had been searching for has come together-fantastic musicianship
    in a hard-rock setting. All right, we all know how great they are, but
    after reading this list for a few weeks, it seems there are a large number
    of bootlegs out there. My problem is that I can't seem to find any of
    them! Does anyone know of a place to get them in the DC/MD/VA area or
    does anyone know of a good mail-order house that has them? I'd really like
    to hear more of this amazing band. Thanks in advance.

    --Stephan

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    Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 01:50:40 -0600 (CST)
    From: "Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>
    Subject: Re: new cd boot!

    I just got that bootleg, and I think it was recorde from the general area
    near the sound board, but it definetly wasn't direct from the sound board
    (or at least I hope it wasn't). The quality isn't that great, but the
    vibe is excellent, and it's a good show!!! I'd definetly get it if I were
    you (the "not so good" quality of the cd makes it a little more like you
    were there).

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    According to the circle of fifths, and the pattern of sharps and flats:
    If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (i.e,
    a,a#,b,c,c#...g#,h,i,j,etc) eventually the key of Z Major would have 4
    sharps. Eric Moegling gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu
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    On Fri, 18 Mar 1994, Chris White wrote:

    > Is the quality of that CD any good? I know you said it was soundboard,
    > but I heard the live broadcast (didn't have a blank tape *sigh*) and it
    > didn't sound very good over the radio. Sounded very faint at times. Unless
    > the recording is better then the broadcast (which is possible -- I don't know
    > anything about recording :) Anyway, it was a good show from sounds of it
    > (wanted to go, but had no ride *sigh*)
    > Chris
    >

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    Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 02:05:18 -0600 (CST)
    From: "Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>
    Subject: Re: A very random question

    Who knows, my guess would be that it's just Myung (it's easy to get
    really good percussive effects out of a bass), but it would also make
    perfectly good sense that it's a sample from either the keyboard, or
    triggered by Mike's drum kit. With all of the cool recording techniques
    that are out there (it varies from producer to producer), nothing
    surprises me; heck it could be anyone in the band, and any of the
    instruments (if it is a sample, all you need is something to trigger it).
    This also brings me to a point that was brought up earlier, the question
    of whether or not Mike actually played the drums on the CD (I&W). I've
    studied the recording process/tricks intensely, and even though the
    sounds are sampled, that doesn't mean that Mike didn't play. In order to
    trigger the samples, a signal of some sort must be sent to the modual
    that contains the sound, thus a michrophone in front of a drum would
    trigger the sampled sound. So all in all, he did play on the album, it's
    just not his kit that you are hearing, it's someone elses (or one he
    programmed). This is the same thing for guitarists take for example the
    Digitech GSP-Legend a George Lynch Preset is just a sample of his guitar
    sound, and when your playing a song using that preset, it is still you
    playing the guitar. I just thought I'd clear this up a bit, also when in
    doubt, watch him live (you can't fake playing the drums in a live
    situation). That's all for now, Party On Fellow Dt Fans!!!

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    According to the circle of fifths, and the pattern of sharps and flats:
    If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (i.e,
    a,a#,b,c,c#...g#,h,i,j,etc) eventually the key of Z Major would have 4
    sharps. Eric Moegling gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu
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    On Fri, 18 Mar 1994, Dave Re wrote:

    > > Is the Bass part doubled on Bass drum in the VERY begining? Yes, it
    > > is definately doubled later on in the intro, but what about the first
    > > few notes?
    >
    > If I'm listening to right part, I think what you're actually hearing
    > is a keyboard patch, cause the kick sounds a lot different to me than the
    > punchy part of that sound. I might have been a combo of sounds in the
    > studio, too. I think the live parts that Mike plays are the same ones that
    > are on the album.....
    >
    > Of course, I might be wrong :)
    >
    > --
    > Dave Re |"I am your master, when you're all alone.
    > OIT/TS/ISD | You can come to me child, when you're without home.
    > ccoprdr@prism.gatech.edu | I will share your pain, of long lost dignity.
    > | Happiness evades you, you'll get no sympathy."
    > | "Father of the Night", Crowdad
    > "Heh Heh. I know where there's a dead raccoon!! Heh heh."
    > "FIRE!!! FIRE!!! FIRE!!!"
    >
    > "The juggernaut that is Early Warning will CRUSH you!!!!"
    >

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    Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 02:07:57 -0600 (CST)
    From: "Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>
    Subject: Re: no flame fests!

    AMEN BROTHER!!!!! I COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF!!!

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    According to the circle of fifths, and the pattern of sharps and flats:
    If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (i.e,
    a,a#,b,c,c#...g#,h,i,j,etc) eventually the key of Z Major would have 4
    sharps. Eric Moegling gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu
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    On Fri, 18 Mar 1994, H.R.H. King Lerxst wrote:

    > This is directed towards the people who have been starting flame wars
    > recently (you know who you are!). Just because this is an unmoderated
    > list does not mean it is an open forum for lame arguments about every
    > little possible thread that comes up. Leave that to the nms :)
    >
    > Anyway, this list has been relatively flame-free for quite a while. I
    > would like to see it stay that way. Discussions are fine, but "you suck
    > because Charlie sucks and you like him" does not belong here, but in
    > email if one feels that it must be said.
    >
    > Later...
    >
    > (I even like Hank Williams, Sr.! Anybody wanna tell me I am stupid
    > because of this, email me, don't post it! My point is everyone has
    > their own opinions and taste. If you wanna discuss this with them,
    > go right ahead. Email them. Don't pick apart every comment here
    > where everyone has to <space> over your post because they could not
    > care less about it.)
    >
    > ****************************************************************************
    > *Brian V. Cox *"You and I long to live like wind upon the water*
    > *Texas A&M University * If we close our eyes, we'll maybe realize *
    > *(214)553-9159 * There's more to life than what we have known *
    > *lerxst@esy.com * And I can't believe I spent so long *
    > *************************** Living lies I knew were wrong inside *
    > * "What you believe is * I've just begun to see the light..." *
    > * What you are...Therefore* -Queensryche "Anybody Listening?" *
    > * I am nothing" -Brian * "Machines have no conscience..." -Qryche NM156 *
    > ****************************************************************************
    >
    >

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    Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 14:41:28 -0500 (EST)
    From: I Hate Grunge <pdaugher@bdmserver>
    Subject: sound files

    Does anyone else have any Dream Theater .mid, .rol, .mod or
    .cmf files?

    Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com
    D R E A M T H E A T E R
                    THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!!!

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    Date: Fri, 18 Mar 94 15:05:17 EST
    From: whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White)
    Subject: DoE

      Oh my gosh. I've never ever complained about Labrie before... But when
    I heard Under a Glass Moon on DoE... Well, it sucked. Anyone else agree?
    I love that song on I&W, but DoE's version is really bad. I like the rest
    of it so far (well, only heard up to SUrrounded, but hey :) Just thought
    I'd mention that and see if anyone else agrees.
       Chris

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    Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 02:59:51 MST
    From: khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson)
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 353

    Perfect song:

    Echo by Joe Satriani

    That's way cool about Alex! Is he just playing with Savatage, or joining
    them? I really want to hear the Exhibit A stuff...

    BTW: whoever said that people who transcribe need to "get a fucking life."
    We have one, it's called Music.

    More bass stuff on the way...

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    Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 07:24:18 -0500 (EST)
    From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
    Subject: Random Thoughts to enlighen and PISS YOU OFF!

    Excerpts from ytsejam: 18-Mar-94 YTSEJAM digest 353 by ytsejam@bnf.com
    >
    > As for you people that go to a show and jsut sit there
    transcribing the
    > songs get a f**king life for gods sake!!!!! People go to shows to
    meet people,
    > get into the music by dancing or moshing, get out of the house once in
    a while
    > oh and watch the band. Otherwise they would sit at home jerking off
    to the CD.
    > So let these people that are having a good time have it. They are not hurting
    > anyone. I was really upset when i heard that LaBrie was getting
    pissed at stage
    >

    Oh, I'm sorry I offended you, master. I though some people might've been
    interested, but I see that I was wrong. Can you ever foprgive me?

    > Maybe if you lifted your heads from transcribing and figuring out time sigs
    >
    > every once in a while you could appreciate the music for what it really is.
    > MUSIC and not a bunch of notes.
    >

    As a morbid angel and carcass fan, I say nyanyanya

     
    >
    > BTW playing fast isn't the only criteria for being a guitar or
    bass GOD.
    >

    You must not play an instrument. If you did, you would understand what
    they're playing and you would realize that they are incredible. they're
    not just playing fast, they're playing fast smoothly, easily, and
    creatively.

    >
    > >From what I have seen there are a lot of musicians on this list (I
    personally a
    > m
    > a guitarist) that can tell you the same thing that I am going to say.
    If you
    > are able to perfect your chops to the point that your fingers can do
    anything
    > you want them to you are going to be able to express yourself much
    better. This
    >
    > way your physical ability doesn't limit your creativity. Remember the
    are also
    > perfomers so the flash in their playing helps a lot. You don't always
    have to
    > play 4/4 and only 8th notes. Listen to some classical music there are a lot
    > of themes and ideas that are similair to what is played by some of the best
    > musicains and bands of our time now.
    >

    We listen to Dream Theater. We already know this. Do you seriously think
    that DT always play eigth notes in 4/4?

    --------------------------------------------------------------
    Bill Bajzek
    impaler+@cmu.edu

    "What's a little fallout, eh?"

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    Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 14:10:37 -0500 (EST)
    From: A_Dream_Theater_Fanatic@cs.brandeis.edu,
    Subject: ? about bootleg tapes

    Hi there... I am posting this to several digests that I am on, so you
    might have read this already... This doesn't have anything in
    particular to do with any band, but w/ tapes in general... I was
    wondering if anyone knew anything about the laws behind bootlegs... I
    have heard different things from different people... I have heard that
    it is legal to own and trade tapes, but not to sell them... I am not
    sure about buying them. Someone also told me that if anyone (police,
    or maybe even record companies) found out that you are selling them,
    they can confiscate your entire collection... Does anyone know
    anything about this, or the laws behind them... Also, if selling
    tapes (and CDs) are illegal, how do bootleg shops stay open, how do
    publications like GOLDMINE Magazine stay around, and how are there
    record fairs across the country where people sell material... Any
    help is greatly appreciated...

    -- 
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
    |	  The way your heart sounds makes all the difference	       |
    |    It's what decides if you'll endure the pain that we all feel      |
    |	  The way your heart beats makes all the difference	       |
    |			 In learning to live			       |
    |	Dream Theater	Learning To Live	Images and Words       |
    |	Michael Burstin			     Brandeis University       |
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
    |  Let's Go Pens   Let's Go Pens	 Lets Go Pens	 Let's Go Pens |
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
    For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
    

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    Date: 19 Mar 94 14:44:55 CST From: "Doug Slauson" <DRSLAUS@msae.cae.wisc.edu> Subject: Searching for boot...

    Hello All!

    I am wondering if anyone has a tape of the DT performance from summerfest in Milwaukee, 1993? I know the show was broadcast live on Laser 103 fm, did anyone by chance record it? If so, I would greatly appreciate getting a copy of this. You may respond to me by Email: douglass@cae.wisc.edu

    Finally picked up LatM and Live in Tokyo... Still disappointed about the mix on LatM, I haven't watched the vid yet :)

    OK, not relevant to DT, but did someone mention a new Savatage album? With the guy who used to be in Testament? Hum? Anyone with info on that can Email me if they don't want to clog up the list with non-DT stuff :)

    Thanks for any help! Doug Slauson

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    Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 15:45:20 -0500 (EST) From: smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve Mansfield) Subject: Re: band info

    > The original dream "theater" is in CA? From what I understood, it was > in NY (NYC I thought). Wasn't that the name of one of the member's father's > establishment (nightclub, bar, something?) That's what I could've sworn I > read on here earlier.. Hmmm... Am I wrong? Could be (it IS 10 am afterall ;)

    Nope, it's in California. Mike's father was responsible for the band's name, but the place is in LA I believe.

    Steve Mansfield | Once you're touched you stand alone to face the bitter fight smm@uunet.uu.net | Once I reached for love but now I reach for life. Dream Theater - Learning to Live

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    Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 18:31:04 GMT From: mike.masi@chowda.sbs.com (Mike Masi) Subject: DT Interview

    Hi All,

    I noticed in the bootleg discography there is Dream Theater Unplugged. this on TV and after they did a couple of songs there was an interview w James and John P. If anyone would like me to post this interview, I wil

    Nothing really big, they just talk about the band and a little <very lit about the new album.

    Mike <mike.masi@chowda.sbs.com>

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    Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 19:59:58 -0700 (MST) From: The Alchemist <alchemy@xmission.xmission.com> Subject: Ogden!?!?

    On Fri, 4 Mar 1994 Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> wrote:

    > (not detailed in extended section): various venue recordings incl: > Washington, D.C.; Buffalo, NY; Sacramento, CA; Ogden, UT; ^^^^^^^^^ > Talahassee, FL; Terre Haute, IN; Tempe, AZ; El Paso, TX;

    What's this about there being a recording from the Ogden, UT show? I wasn't at that show, but I have some friends who were and would REALLY enjoy getting a copy of this CD. Please reply with ANY and ALL information you have about any recordings of this show. Thanks!

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Alchemist Anthony Chavez alchemy@xmission.com Salt Lake Community College, Computer Science Tech -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Mon, 21 Mar 94 09:20:27 GMT From: mo1amy4 <mo1amy4@greenwich.ac.uk> Subject: Where Day and Dream Unite

    To all you DT listeners in London England

    The HMV store in Oxford Street currently has import copies of WDADU on CD. The cost is around 14 pounds and there arent many left......

    Have fun....

    Mike

    -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike O'Donnell,Comp/Comms Student| Two most common elements in the University of Greenwich, UK | Universe: Hydrogen & Stupidity. Email: mo1amy4@uk.ac.greenwich | RUSH.KINGS_X.DREAM_THEATER.PEARL_JAM | ALICE_IN_CHAINS.VAN_HALEN.QUEENSRYCHE ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Mon, 21 Mar 94 8:42:44 CST From: lerxst@Esy.COM (Brian V. Cox) Subject: dream out loud

    i posted earlier about the new "dream out loud" boot i found. i think i have determined it to not be a soundboard, but rather a very good tape off the radio. it was definitely recorded off the soundboard originally, because alot of the stereo effects are very clear. but, during one song (wait for sleep) you can hear a slight buzzing, like the fm reception was cheesing out. it only lasts a minute or so, and the rest sounds fine. but, michael burstin says he has a tape off the radio, and it has the radio call letters announced between songs at times. the cd doesn't have this. maybe the show was broadcast to the radio station, via who knows what, some kind of commercial frequency, where it was mixed for radio broadcast, then retransmitted, and someone at the radio station tape the incoming broadcast. this is my guess, so it was recorded when it was piped in, and not after it was broadcast over their rf. if anyone knows anything concrete about the origin of this recording, please tell me, i am curious now. but, it does sound awesome. even better than "the dance of eternity" at times. the version of "status seeker" is great, with a new intro. "pup" or "puppies on acid", the new intro to "take the time" is also included. the galactic cowboys singing backup on "take the time" is also there, since james talks about it, but i can't really hear them at all. for all you galactic cowboys/king's x fans:

    i talked to the guys in king's x last thursday for about 15 minutes. got various things signed, and had the opportunity to ask them many questions. i asked ty tabor about the cowboys. he said that they had recorded a few new songs, but had found absolutely no response from any record companies. (they got dropped from geffen last year). i figured atlantic might pick them up, since they are behind king's x so much, but they said is probably wouldn't happen. oh well. anyway, the king's x tour with pearl jam is definitely happening. they are going to headline a little bit starting tonight in austin (i will be there!) then finish up the scorpions tour, then tour (possibly in outdoor amphitheaters and maybe stadiums) with pearl jam in the summer. i'm not the biggest pearl jam fan in the world, but it is a hell of a lot better than touring with the scorpions or ac/dc. at least maybe they will bring in lots of new fans. i got some insight on the music business while talking to them, also. i talked to doug pinnick about an interview i had just seen in the houston post. i asked him some things about it, and he said he didn't even know he had been interviewed. he was just talking on the phone, and had now idea it was being taped. the interview went on to become a front page (of the weekend section) article. anyway, he also said that they barely make enough money to put out another album. all this after 5 albums. i just started wondering if dream theater is in a similar status. well, if anyone wants details of the king's x stuff that i found out from them, email me.

    later...

    **************************************************************************** *Brian V. Cox *"You and I long to live like wind upon the water* *Texas A&M University * If we close our eyes, we'll maybe realize * *(214)553-9159 * There's more to life than what we have known * *lerxst@esy.com * And I can't believe I spent so long * *************************** Living lies I knew were wrong inside * * "What you believe is * I've just begun to see the light..." * * What you are...Therefore* -Queensryche "Anybody Listening?" * * I am nothing" -Brian * "Machines have no conscience..." -Qryche NM156 * ****************************************************************************

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    Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 11:31:09 -0500 (EST) From: olive@orph23.phy.ornl.gov (Don Olive) Subject: Re: A very random question

    According to Zack Gemmill: > > > >In an unrelated note, I see someone flamed DT really really HARD on > >the Rush list. They said DT has two "cheesy ballads so when people > >hear them, they will be hooked and think they are the greatest band > >in the world" or some other crap like that. Also the DT writes > >"horribly cheesy lyrics". Whatever. Time to go flame this dude in > >person. > > > >-Jeff > > I read that, too--- Greg J. posted a NMS digest on a.m.r. What a stupid > piece of shit that guy is. That's one reason I don't subscribe to NMS. > Too many snobs (excepting, of course, our fellow ytsejamers and some > others). >

    Hey...Snobs? Ok...Ok...your logic follows...Rush fans (NMS'ers) are snobs because one person out of the entire group thinks DT is cheesy. You skills of deduction astound me.

    -- olive@orph23.phy.ornl.gov _____..---========+^+=========---.._____ ______________________ __,-='=====____ ================== _____=====`= (._____________________I__) - _-=_/ `--------=+=--------' / /__...---===='---+---_' Don H. Olive 615.576.6915 '------'---.___ - _ = _.-' Box 2008 Oak Ridge National Lab `--------' Oak Ridge, TN 37831-6368

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    Date: Mon, 21 Mar 94 11:37:11 CST From: James=Utz%Mech%PCPD=Hou@bangate.compaq.com Subject: LaBrie and Iron Maiden

    Hello,

    I pulled this post from the Iron Maiden newsgroup. I thought it was pretty interesting.

    James James=Utz%Mech%PCPD=Hou@bangate.compaq.com

    - Original Message -

    Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.ironmaiden Path: twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com!wotan.compaq.com!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!cunews!fre enet.carleton.ca!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!ad750 From: ad750@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Daniel Raeside) Subject: JAMES LABRIE(Dream Theater) was Maiden's first pick! Message-ID: <CMxyu2.775@freenet.carleton.ca> Sender: news@freenet.carleton.ca Reply-To: ad750@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Daniel Raeside) Organization: The National Capital FreeNet Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 02:27:37 GMT Lines: 49

    According to an interview with James Labrie in the March/April edition of M.E.A.T., James LaBrie was the first choice for being the new Iron Maiden vocalist. Here is the quote:

    " I was the first in line to get the Iron Maiden gig," reveals LaBrie. " Steve Harris and the management would be out at our gigs- in New York, in England- and it was pretty wild. The guys in my band(DT) are going, 'You know why these guys are here? They're checking you out to be the new guy,' and I'm like, right... sure! Then our manager and our tour manager went out to dinner with (Maiden bassist) Steve Harris and (Maiden management employee) Merick Mercuiriadis, and the Maiden guys were joking around about who they wanted as the new singer for Maiden, and they said, James LaBrie. Our manager began laughing, then he realized they were serious. He said, 'Well I'll tell you that James isn't going to go,' and they're like 'Well how do you know? Money talks.' They just laughed it off at the time, but it was tense."

    Think that was weird? Check out the next quote from the same article and page(31).

    " And then, a couple of guys in Judas Priest show up at our European gigs," informs LaBrie. " It's wild! Especially when you grew up listening to these band's music, and then you're meeting them, and suddenly you're under consideration for their singing jobs. I think that Iron Maiden is a great band, and I hope they come back strong with their new singer Blaze Bayley, and just blow everyone away."

    Weird eh?!?

    ERIC

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    Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 13:41:03 -0500 From: Brent Phillips <panther@clove.lcs.mit.edu> Subject: ACOS lyrics...

    I remember seeing a more or less complete version of the lyrics to ACOS on here a while back, but I've lost them...could someone mail them to me? (Maybe they should be included in the FAQ if they aren't already?)

    Thanks a lot,

    - Brent panther@mit.edu

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    Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 17:52:06 -0500 (EST) From: ccoprdr@acme.gatech.edu (Dave Re) Subject: Re: Dave Re knows all

    > I have two words to describe Dave Re: close-minded and > disrespectful. Listen, man, I think it's great that you have your

    Close minded and disrespectful?? I think you missed something. I've been flaming people not because their opinions differ from mine, but because they've been flaming people on subjects they either know nothing about or think *they* know everything. Heh.

    > disrepectful to other people's opinions. Just say what you have to > say and leave it at that. These negative vibes are gettin to me.

    Say what you have to say, get flamed, and leave it?? I don't think so :)

    Beyond all that, there's another small problem, in that somehow my messages always seems to show up after a digest is sent out, and not in "real-time", as others seem to do. So, therefore, by the time you see what comes from me, its been a couple days since I sent it.....

    -- Dave Re |"I am your master, when you're all alone. OIT/TS/ISD | You can come to me child, when you're without home. ccoprdr@prism.gatech.edu | I will share your pain, of long lost dignity. | Happiness evades you, you'll get no sympathy." | "Father of the Night", Crowdad "Heh Heh. I know where there's a dead raccoon!! Heh heh." "FIRE!!! FIRE!!! FIRE!!!"

    "The juggernaut that is Early Warning will CRUSH you!!!!"

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    Date: Tue, 22 Mar 94 22:43:17 EST From: stmpyjcat@aol.com Subject: Re:Magellan

    "Is the new "Impending Ascension" by Magellan available in the U.S.????????"

    Yes, try the mail order co. called Sights & Sounds. I don't have the address handy but you can e-mail the owner to receive a catalog:

    genesisman@aol.com

    It's only available in the States as an import, though, but this guy has really good prices. Check it out!

    " BTW, I talked with Wayne Gardner from Magellan a while ago and he mentioned how they admired Dream Theater's music..."

    Actually, I talked to Trent Gardner (keys, vocals, songwriter, and brother of guitarist Wayne) and he told me an intersting story regarding DT. I think it was a writer from Kerrang! that did a little piece on BOTH bands. It was one of those things where a guy from one band would critique the music of a guy from another band and vice versa. Well, this writer picked Trent and Mike Portnoy for this particular article. Apparently, the writer was trying get the two bands into a little rivalry but it wound up being a mutual admiration society! Both guys dig each other's band's music so there you go! Yes, Trent, as does Wayne, loves DT's stuff and expressed to me the wish that Magellan had the $ to get the kind of production as DT.

    Slainte!

    StmpyJCat

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