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(jdobbins@heartland.bradley.edu (Jim Dobbins))
Re: Iron Maiden (Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>)
Re: ProgVMetal (gmsanbo@chopin.udel.edu (BIG G))
Rush vs. DT (rtoscano@icogsci1.UCSD.EDU (Richard Toscano))
quoting problem!! (hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>)
Re: YTSEJAM digest 396 ("Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>)
Re: ProgVMetal ("Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>)
help (wagner@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de)
Here is Surrounded (Tim Villa <tvilla@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>)
unsubscribe (achim@kirk.es.go.dlr.de (Achim Wolf))
responding to the digest (King Pat <pdaugher@bdmserver>)
SHIRTS: Who's paid? (Jason Hough <jhough@qualcomm.com>)
Rush vs DT (Paul M Hudalla <huda0004@gold.tc.umn.edu>)
Why do you think MTV exists? (Don Olive <olive@orph01.phy.ornl.gov>)
Re: ProgVMetal (drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh))
LiT: Mike's drum solo... ("Doug Slauson" <DRSLAUS@msae.cae.wisc.edu>)
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Date: Wed, 18 May 94 12:30:02 CDT
From: jdobbins@heartland.bradley.edu (Jim Dobbins)
Subject:
subscribe ytsejam
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Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 14:55:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden
Excerpts from mail: 17-May-94 Iron Maiden by Christopher Simmons@whal
> I currently await DT's new album like a kid on
> Christmas Eve. Now I have a question. Does anyone out there see Iron
> Maiden's influence as much as I do and as much as John claims?
Yeah. I just started getting into Maiden very recently (they are awesome
by the way) and there are, I think, some similarities between John's
style and Dave Murray's. There are also some compositional similarities,
song structure and stuff, and both bands are very melodic. I think that
when DT is playing metal, it's Maidenesque metal rather than, say,
Metallicaesque metal. Good thing, too, IMO. Also I think Fates Warning
was heavily influenced by Maiden, so that may have spilled over
somewhat.
max
run live to fly fly to live do or die
run live to fly fly to live aces high
p.s. I need a drummer, bad. Mail me for info.
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Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 16:46:40 EDT
From: gmsanbo@chopin.udel.edu (BIG G)
Subject: Re: ProgVMetal
On May 18, 10:04am, "Paul W. Cashman" wrote:
} Subject: Re: ProgVMetal
} > The last time I needed a Metallica fix... I had a lobotomy... I'd rather
} > listen to Smashing Pumpkins than those sell-out dickwads...
}
} Funny; the results seem readily apparent....
}
} ............. Paul W. Cashman vanyel@crl.com ...................
Ha ha HA! Go Paul! If anyone else would like to band-bash,
start your own newsgroup - the rest of us are more into
discussions that have a point.
G-Man
-- | "I once could see but | Garrett M. Sanborne |"The mess and the magic,| | now at last I'm blind" | gmsanbo@chopin.udel.edu | triumphant and tragic" | | -- Dream Theater | Univ. of Delaware | -- Rush | | "Love is the dance of Eternity." - Dream Theater, Metropolis Part One |------------------------------
Date: Wed, 18 May 94 15:27:44 PDT From: rtoscano@icogsci1.UCSD.EDU (Richard Toscano) Subject: Rush vs. DT
To the guy who said "Dream Theater has better musicians than Rush," I would like to analyze that statement further.
Petrucci better than Lifeson? OK, I think he is certainly more versatile. Portnoy better than Peart? Peart is a god, but so is Mike. I'll buy it. Myung better than Lee? I just don't think so. There is no comparison.
But I agree on everything else. While the late-70's Rush influence on DT is evident, I see few parallels of the non-trivial nature (eg. replacing a band member is trivial). Let's just hope DT doesn't sell out like Rush did. While mid-era Rush is still my favorite, I think that DT is by far the best band today (now that Rush, Yes, Queensryche, etc. suck). I really have high hopes for them. I+W is definitely the best second album by any band ever.
Rich
-- /\ Rich Toscano / \ rtoscano@icogsci1.ucsd.edu / \ \ -Guitarist of little or no note / ___\ \ -Evolver of dim-witted neural net creatures / / _____\ /_/________\ "Ook!" - Recital Boy
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Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 00:27:47 -0500 (EDT) From: hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> Subject: quoting problem!!
Why did some moron quote the whole previous ytsejam digest in his message? I don't wanna weed through all of that stuff a second time.
Anyway, has anyone here joined that DT fan club where you were supposed to send 15 bucks and you get a membership card and stuff like that ? What about any other DT fan clubs?
Any word on the Images and Words music book? Is it just gonna be guitar? Keyboards would be way cool!!
I think "The Silent Man" is a cool song, I hope its on the next album.
"Pull me under a glass moon, while I'm learning to live forever."
************************************************************************** * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu * * * * You're fighting the weight of the world, * * and no one can save you this time. * * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. * * * * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater * **************************************************************************
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Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 22:03:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 396
How 'bout that. Someone quoted back 770 lines of the digest to make a one-line comment about I&W's sales figures.
This week's Clueless Wonder Award goes to..... <drum roll, probably double bass knowing Portnoy>
----> Anthony Tully <------ C'mon down! You've won the adulation and respect of your fellow ytsejammers.........not.
-- ............. Paul W. Cashman vanyel@crl.com ................... Though we live in trying times, we're the ones who have to try Though we know that time has wings, we're the ones who have to fly ................. "Everyday Glory" N. Peart .....................
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Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 22:17:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> Subject: Re: ProgVMetal
> } > The last time I needed a Metallica fix... I had a lobotomy... I'd rather > } > listen to Smashing Pumpkins than those sell-out dickwads... > } > } Funny; the results seem readily apparent.... > } > } ............. Paul W. Cashman vanyel@crl.com ................... > > Ha ha HA! Go Paul! If anyone else would like to band-bash, > start your own newsgroup - the rest of us are more into > discussions that have a point.
Yea, I couldn't let that one slide by. 'Tallica gave away (and subsequently had to pay for) over $500,000 in free tickets during the last tour, mostly to fans who followed the tour. I think we could all do with more of these so-called dickwads in the music industry, hmmm?
[ Source: Metallica's personal assistant, fan club president and tour manager.]
> | "I once could see but | Garrett M. Sanborne |"The mess and the magic,| > | now at last I'm blind" | gmsanbo@chopin.udel.edu | triumphant and tragic" | > | -- Dream Theater | Univ. of Delaware | -- Rush | > | "Love is the dance of Eternity." - Dream Theater, Metropolis Part One |
Nice .sig; I might have to adapt this. :)
-- ............. Paul W. Cashman vanyel@crl.com ................... Though we live in trying times, we're the ones who have to try Though we know that time has wings, we're the ones who have to fly ................. "Everyday Glory" N. Peart .....................
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Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 09:55:38 +0200 (MESZ) From: wagner@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de Subject: help
help
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Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 17:44:33 +0800 (WST) From: Tim Villa <tvilla@tartarus.uwa.edu.au> Subject: Here is Surrounded
In response to the (considerable) interest generated by my offer to post the chords/lyrics for Surrounded I decided it would be easier to put them here rather than mail them individually. If you have any comments could you email them please, I don't always get to read the digest.
Enjoy...
DREAM THEATER: Surrounded
G C G C Morning comes too early, and nighttime falls to late Am D C And sometimes all I want to do is wait Am D C The shadow I've been hiding in has fled from me today Em D Bm C I know it's easier to walk away than look it in the eye Am D C But I will raise a shelter to the sky Am D C And here beneath this star tonight I'll lie Am Bm C D G She will slowly yield the light as I awaken from the longest night G C Dreams are shaking, set sirens waking up tired eyes D C With the light the memories all rush into his head G C By a candle stands a mirror of his heart and soul, she dances D C She was dancing through the night above his bed Em D G D G And walking to the window, he throws the shutters out against the wall C D G And from an ivory tower hears her call, "let light surround you" G C It's been a long, long time, he's had a while to think it over D C In the end he only sees the changes, light to dark dark to light... G C Heaven must be more than this when angels waken with a kiss D C Sacred hearts can't take the pain but mine will never be the same Em D G D G He stands before the window, his shadow slowly fading from the wall C D G And from an ivory tower hears her call, "let the light surround you" C D G D Em Once lost but I was found when I heard the stained glass shatter all around me Am D C I sent the spirits tumbling down the hill Am D C But I will hold this one on high above me still Am Bm C D G She whispers words to clear her mind I once could see but now at last I'm blind Em D Bm C I know it's easier to walk away than look it in the eye Am D C But I had given all that I could take Am D C And now I've only habits left to break Am Bm C D G Tonight I'll still be lying here surrounded in all the light
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Villa tvilla@tartarus.uwa.edu.au "I don't believe that what you see has anything to do...with me" Jesus Jones, YOUR CRUSADE -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Connection closed by foreign host
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Date: Thu, 19 May 94 13:44:20 +0200 From: achim@kirk.es.go.dlr.de (Achim Wolf) Subject: unsubscribe
unsubscribe Achim Wolf
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Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 09:16:02 -0400 (EDT) From: King Pat <pdaugher@bdmserver> Subject: responding to the digest
Please do not include the whole digest when you do a reply. That is very annoying.
Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files
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Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 08:24:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Hough <jhough@qualcomm.com> Subject: SHIRTS: Who's paid?
Here is the current list of people that are paid up for shirts:
Krysten DeBroka Pat Daugherty Nathan Bradley Paul Poehler Paul Cashman Jeff Smith Tim Altman Michael Starr Jason Breitweg William Nottingham Cem Unsal Tanguy Kervahut Zachery Gemmill Michael Backof Gregory Picklesimer Joseph Jurczyk Steven Chew Tadd Dalton Scott Spehar David Bachmann Adam Bertapelle Scott Kuennen Brent Phillips Paula Matuszek Todd Hartmann Kinga Jason Hartman Jeffrey Seifert Brian Cox Jason Giles
There are a few people that are not in here yet, but that just about covers it. It's less than half of the people who originally ordered shirts in email. Unfortunately this means that I probably wont have enough money to get the design we wanted. I think I'm going to have to nix-nay the glow-in-the-dark portion. Oh well! Maybe next time. :P Believe me, they will still look great!
I should have the shirts in in about 2 weeks, and I will send them out then.
Note: Most of the names above were the names that appeared on the checks. You all know who you are. :) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason Hough / Computer Services Hotline / jhough@qualcomm.com / x4122 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I set the clouds in motion, turn up the light and sound, activate the window, and watch the world go round..." - rush ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 10:10:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul M Hudalla <huda0004@gold.tc.umn.edu> Subject: Rush vs DT
This whole debate is kinda bothering me. So I'll add to it and make it worse.
Petrucci may very well be better than Alex TECHNICALLY. However, if you've ever seen both of them play live I think that it's hard to deny that Lifeson plays with more artistical expression than Petrucci. Granted Petrucci's parts are about ten times harder to play, but something has to be said for musical style.
Geddy and Myung are hard for me to compare (as if the others weren't), but here again, sometimes I feel that the difficulty of Myung's parts are taking away from the feel (to less of extent than Petrucci, though).
Here's the one that I will take a firm, solid stand on, though. Peart IS better than Portnoy. At times Portnoy becomes VERY mechanical (not that that isn't cool). Peart, on the other hand, always plays with perfect touch and control. Peart is better technically and artistically. Sorry Mike, you lose.
Singing? Well, it depends what you want. Geddy: a technical mess with more character to his voice than anyone should be allowed, or LaBrie: perfect singer (except for his diction) that sounds like he belongs in the opera. I think we better go with LaBrie (although I would rather hear Geddy wail away, it wouldn't be fair to put LaBrie in second).
Intelligent flames are welcomed :)
---------------> the bungler: huda@gold.tc.umn.edu
"And if I offended you.. oh, I'm sorry, but maybe you need to be offended. Well, here's my apology. And one more thing... FUCK YOU!" -ST
"I feel strongly about violence - LOVE IS A FIST!!!" - Mr. Bungle
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Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 11:34:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Olive <olive@orph01.phy.ornl.gov> Subject: Why do you think MTV exists?
> Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 16:04:04 +22304916 (CDT) > From: csimmns@whale.st.usm.edu (Christopher Carrol Simmons) > Subject: Iron Maiden > > > ...... I was watching Mtv one fine day and I saw a video. This video was > different. Instead of the usual Mtv fluff band, this band had talent. > While watching the video and listening to the music & lyrics, other bands > started popping in my head. Metallica, Rush, Styx, Yes, Queensryche and > Iron Maiden. I was blown away! I saw the name of the band at the end of > the video...Dream Theater. ............................................ > ........ A couple of months later I was watching Mtv again (I apologise) > and I saw another video...Take The Time. Again, I was blown away. I told > myself that if I could find one more reason to buy I&W, I would. ........ > .................. I currently await DT's new album like a kid on > Christmas Eve.
I enjoy MTV as much as the next guy but your experience is a good example of why MTV is such a successful marketing tool. You heard music that you thought was mediocre at best and then were sucked in by the slick presentation of MTV. Three cheers for 'the American way.'
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Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 11:52:20 PDT From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh) Subject: Re: ProgVMetal
>> } > The last time I needed a Metallica fix... I had a lobotomy... I'd rather >> } > listen to Smashing Pumpkins than those sell-out dickwads... >> } >> } Funny; the results seem readily apparent.... >> } >> } ............. Paul W. Cashman vanyel@crl.com ................... >> >> Ha ha HA! Go Paul! If anyone else would like to band-bash, >> start your own newsgroup - the rest of us are more into >> discussions that have a point. > >Yea, I couldn't let that one slide by. 'Tallica gave away (and >subsequently had to pay for) over $500,000 in free tickets during the >last tour, mostly to fans who followed the tour. I think we could all >do with more of these so-called dickwads in the music industry, hmmm? > >[ Source: Metallica's personal assistant, fan club president and tour >manager.] > > >> | "I once could see but | Garrett M. Sanborne |"The mess and the magic,| >> | now at last I'm blind" | gmsanbo@chopin.udel.edu | triumphant and tragic" | >> | -- Dream Theater | Univ. of Delaware | -- Rush | >> | "Love is the dance of Eternity." - Dream Theater, Metropolis Part One | > >Nice .sig; I might have to adapt this. :) > > >-- >............. Paul W. Cashman vanyel@crl.com ................... >Though we live in trying times, we're the ones who have to try >Though we know that time has wings, we're the ones who have to fly >................. "Everyday Glory" N. Peart .....................
I wouldn't go see them even if I got one of those tickets free...
What a joke... Metallica...
-The Doc
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Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 14:00:27 CST From: "Doug Slauson" <DRSLAUS@msae.cae.wisc.edu> Subject: LiT: Mike's drum solo...
Hey everyone, here's a little question that's been on my mind ever since I got my hands on the LiT video. During Mike's drum solo, he (and John P.) do the intro for Pantera's "By Demons, Be Driven."
Anyone have any ideas why he decided to do that, other than the fact that it is a cool drum beat/guitar riff???
Just wondering, Doug "Aw man, here's to you T-Bird... *slam*"
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