YTSEJAM digest 398

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Date: Wed May 18 1994 - 16:01:29 EDT

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    Contents:
         Surrounded - Keyboard Transcription (Guenter Obiltschnig <"G.OBILTSCHNIG"@JK.UNI-LINZ.AC.AT>)
    Various stuff (F1T159@fek.su.se)
    Another day + various stuff (Stefan Andersson <stefan-a@dsv.su.se>)
    DT T-shirts... (Markus"Mackan"Forsblom <tdi9001@abacus.hgs.se>)
          Re: Iron Maiden ("Doug Slauson" <DRSLAUS@msae.cae.wisc.edu>)
    Re: YTSEJAM digest 396 (Anthony Tully <atully@jolt.mpx.com.au>)

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    Date: Wed, 18 May 94 11:56:48 CDT
    From: Guenter Obiltschnig <"G.OBILTSCHNIG"@JK.UNI-LINZ.AC.AT>
    Subject: Surrounded - Keyboard Transcription

    Hi folks,

    does anybody have a keyboard transcription of Surrounded (or at least the
    chords), or is there a Dream Theater Scorebook (would be even better) out
    there?

    Thanks,

    guenter

    PS: Will the next DT tour bring them to Europe (Austria)?

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    Date: Wed, 18 May 94 13:00 GMT+0200
    From: F1T159@fek.su.se
    Subject: Various stuff

    Hi, Matt from Sweden's on the air!

    I originally got the LIT-video the same day it was released here in Europe,
    three weeks back though I won one of the prizes in a Guitar-Mag-contest.
    I got a Japanese LATM cd and also an american version of the LIT-video. Since
    I don't need the us-video (in Europe we have another video/tv system with
    differencies in the screen-update-frequence, ergo I cannot watch the video) so
    I just wonder if someone's willing to buy it. It's identical to the Euro-
    version except for the non-plastic-packaging and the gold print 'not for sale'
    or something like that on the tape. If there's some real fanatic fan that
    feels that he must have this one, I'll send it. Since I live in Sweden postage
    and stuff can cost quite a lot, but I won't charge much for the tape itself
    since I won it.

    I saw a letter from another swedish guy recently, feel free to write to me
    though I will soon be gone for the summer!

    I have also got a crappy bootleg (Live Classics) that I'd like to sell. It's
    from Ft Lauderdale -92 and has got bassdrums and vocals on it mostly as well
    as loud conversation from some not-so-die-hard-fans standing next to the
    recording-source...anyone interested!

    (Whoops, please forgive me! It just hit me that bootleg-trading/selling might
    not be allowed for discussion here! Please don't flame me for this!)

    When DT last played Stockholm, Sweden at Gino last November, national radio P3
    recorded the show. 45 minutes or so of that recording was later broadcasted,
    the sound's really good, the crowd's really loud and so on. I can maybe get a
    grip of the entire show through friends of friends, if someone's interested
    in trading let me know!

    That's it for my first post to this list, quite a long one but since there's
    been a lot of complaining 'bout the lack of activity on the list I figured
    that you wouldn't mind! (BTW I think that the Rush/DT-discussion is pointless!)

    ------------------Matt---f1t159@fek.su.se---

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    Date: Wed, 18 May 94 14:14:31 +0200
    From: Stefan Andersson <stefan-a@dsv.su.se>
    Subject: Another day + various stuff

    stuff deleted...

    >> i'm talking about the song 'Another Day'.
    >> the FAQ says that it's about suicide, and trying to keep someone
    >> from taking their own life...
    >> but after watching the video, it seems to be about someone
    >> dying from a disease, and the family telling this person not to
    >> give up, and 'live another day', etc...
    >> perhaps the song IS about suicide, etc, and the song was
    >> interpreted differently for the video.
    >> anyways...
    >> that's all for now....
    >
    > I thought this was the case because of the video also, but the
    >suicide theme just fits to prfectly with the song.
    >
    >I mean think about it: Look another way, die another day. Better to save
    >the mystery (of death) then surrender... Live another day, climb a little
    >higher, find another reason to stay. "Face the candle to the wind"--in
    >other words snuff it out! Resist the need to pull them in and throw them
    >away...
    >
    > The lyrics just fit too bloody well... I couldn't make my illness
    >argument from the video stand up at all under scrutiny.
    >
    >Mike/garion@indirect.com/belar@aol.com/king@citadel.gov.riva

    Well, I have to comment on this as I have some additional info regarding the
    lyrics for "Another day" and I think that this should be in the FAQ. The info is
    taken from an interview with LaBrie in the British magazine RAW. Here's what he
    has to say about the subject:

    LaBrie: "That song was a very personal one written by John Petrucci - and I hope
    he won't mind me telling you this - but it deals with a situation he was going
    through with his father. John was only about 12 and his father was really sick -
    he's better now - but it's a highly optimistic song."

    So, there you go ... Of course one could also read the suicide meaning into it
    as DT, as we all know, like to put different meanings into their lyrics.

    >1.12 Is there a Dream Theater fan club?
    >
    > Yes. Write to the address below:
    > Dream Theater Fan Club
    > Dept.A
    > 11 Penn Plaza Suite 910
    > New York, NY 10001-2006

    This is according to the FAQ. But in the interview mentioned above there is
    another address to the fan club. Here it is:

    Dream Theater Fan Club
    Midtown Station
    Box 1188
    New York, NY 10018

    Does anybody know which is the appropriate address? Naturally the members of the
    fan club should know ... :-)

    > Third of all, it's the only song that had LaBrie singing in it
    >that has ONLY been recorded live, as in, not for any album. The other four
    >songs that hold the live distinction are instrumentals.

    This is also from the FAQ, regarding the song "A change of season". My question
    is: what about "(To live) Forever"? Is ACOS really the only one?

    BTW, Does anybody have the lyrics for "(To live) Forever"?

    Well, this became a pretty long post, I hope you don't mind too much.

            Bye, Stefan

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    Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 16:53:57 +0200 (MET DST)
    From: Markus"Mackan"Forsblom <tdi9001@abacus.hgs.se>
    Subject: DT T-shirts...

    Anyone got the adress to dude responsible fort the
    DT T-shirts (Let light sorround us, and the eamil to ytsejam),
    anyone got this email adress ???

    Please mail me ASAP...

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    Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 10:46:28 CST From: "Doug Slauson" <DRSLAUS@msae.cae.wisc.edu> Subject: Re: Iron Maiden

    Well, being a devoted Iron Maiden fan myself for the last ten or so years, I too had a similar reaction to DT... My older brother loaned me I&W, and I too was not impressed. (This was way before they made the "Pull Me Under" video) Anyway, I listened to the disc maybe two or three times, then gave it back. Then a few months passed, and I saw the "PMU" video getting a lot of play on MTV. I was very impressed with them at this point, and I lived to see that video everyday. After a while, I thought to myself... "Man, I think I've heard these guys somewhere before..." So I asked my brother for the cd again, and sure enough, I totally loved it the second time. This was so strange, because I am a big Fates Warning fan; I wonder what came over me the first time I listened to I&W???? I suppose I should say something about the IM connection, since that's what this thread started as, no? Personally, I don't see a whole lot of overt similarities, other than the fact that both bands create interesting music, and they write excellent lyrics. And they both have very excellent bassists. The individual members may have been influenced by IM, but I think that together, they make music that is very original and in a class all by themselves. :)

    Doug

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    Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 02:08:17 +1000 (EST) From: Anthony Tully <atully@jolt.mpx.com.au> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 396

    On Mon, 16 May 1994 ytsejam@bnf.com wrote:

    > Contents: > (It's another beautiful day in Zamunda <63826688@uwwvax.uww.edu>) > Re: YTSEJAM digest 394 (khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson)) > live recordings ("Jason K. Schechner" <jks2x@fermi.clas.virginia.edu>) > Re: alt.music-dream-theater (whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White)) > Re: live recordings (golosf@email.uah.edu (FREDDY)) > Re: alt.music-dream-theater (mwibach@students.wisc.edu (Michael Ibach)) > RE: Jason Schneider (gmsanbo@chopin.udel.edu (BIG G)) > Re: live recordings (zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)) > Re: YTSEJAM digest 394/Am I Evil (zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)) > Re: ProgVMetal (zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)) > Re: live recordings (whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White)) > Re: live recordings ("Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>) > T-shirt (Markus"Mackan"Forsblom <tdi9001@abacus.hgs.se>) > Re: live recordings (M.J.Thomas-SE2@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk) > Re: alt.music.dream-theater (Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>) > Re: alt.music-dream-theater (freak@salyko.cube.net (Alex Reinelt)) > King Crimson (Paul M Hudalla <huda0004@gold.tc.umn.edu>) > DT & Queensryche (James=Utz%Mech%PCPD=Hou@bangate.compaq.com) > Re: YTSEJAM digest 394 (Surrounded) (Tim Villa <tvilla@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>) > My horrible fate (MEPATRIC@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU) > Free King's X sampler!!!! (CNotes <wk05522@worldlink.com>) > Re: YTSEJAM digest 389 (Blake Butterworth <butterwo@cs.tulane.edu>) > Tour (Daniel Robinson <robindg@u.washington.edu>) > Re: ProgVMetal (drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)) > Re: live recordings (drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)) > video inquiry (rtoscano@icogsci1.UCSD.EDU (Richard Toscano)) > alt.music.fates-warning (AceRadical@aol.com) > Forward digests ? (MikeP81576@aol.com) > Stuff (Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>) > Gail called !!!! (dpapalli@sdcc8.UCSD.EDU (BULLS ^4)) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 14:39:54 CST > From: It's another beautiful day in Zamunda <63826688@uwwvax.uww.edu> > Subject: > > unsubscribe ytsejam 63826688@uwwvax.uww.edu (Nikolai Dubish) > (Leaving for the summer months, be back next fall!!) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 10 May 94 14:43:45 MDT > From: khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson) > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 394 > > Michael Bahr: > > No, No, and No. Rush and Dream Theater a two different bands. The > only connection they have, is that Rush at one time (LONG AGO) were > progressive. > > Here are the obvious differences: > > Dream Theater are simply better musicians than Rush... sorry. > Dream Theater intentionally make some more commercial songs, early > Rush did not (they might be more like current Rush here). > > Rush did commercialize beginning with "Permantent Waves." > > Dream Theater include more longer songs than Rush did on each album. > > > I mean, I think you're reading too much into the influences thing. Sure, > Mike thinks Neil is a great drummer (so do I)... He's not planning > on cutting all his hair off in 10 years... Whatever "parallels" you > find are just coincidence. I mean, 8 songs? Wow!! 99.9% of all > albums out today are limited to 8 songs. How about this: Rusty quit, > Dominici was fired. > > I&W is not sucessful... It still hasn't reached gold status in the US.

    YES IT HAS.........I&W HAS SOLD OVER 700 000 COPIES IN THE US ALONE!!!

    > > And wow, you already have the 4th album ready, huh? Let me guess: > "1212 by Dream Theater" > > hey, will there be a live album after that? C'mon... Take this crap > to NMS... I don't even read the Rush newsgroup anymore... Too many > people like that... I mean, a Rush convention? > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 18:38:52 -0400 > From: "Jason K. Schechner" <jks2x@fermi.clas.virginia.edu> > Subject: live recordings > > I'm a relatively new DT fan and all I own of theirs at > the moment is I&W. What would you suggest I get next? I've > heard a lot about the various bootlegs that are around. I don't > have a lot of spare money at the moment, so I think I can only > afford one - which should it be? > Thanks, and let's see if we can get the discussion > traffic higher than the unsubscribe traffic! :-) > > -Jason > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 10 May 94 19:44:51 EDT > From: whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White) > Subject: Re: alt.music-dream-theater > > > Hi folx... > > > Why don't we move all to alt.music.....?? > > Now we have this board there seems to be noone who writes in it.... > > Would be much cheaper for me.... > > > bye, Freak > I don't like that idea. #1, I don't have time to always check my > newsreader, #2, I don't have access to a.m.d-t, and #3, mail works beter > (better) IMHO. Just my 2 cents though :) > Chris > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 21:13:00 -0500 > From: golosf@email.uah.edu (FREDDY) > Subject: Re: live recordings > > I suggest you to get their "When Dream And Day Unite". > Freddy. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 22:21:08 -0500 > From: mwibach@students.wisc.edu (Michael Ibach) > Subject: Re: alt.music-dream-theater > > >> Hi folx... > > > >> Why don't we move all to alt.music.....?? > >> Now we have this board there seems to be noone who writes in it.... > >> Would be much cheaper for me.... > > > >> bye, Freak > > > Some of us don't have acess to usenet at all! > > > (insert obligitory mushy closing comment here) > > Mike. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > "We're only immortal for a limited time." > Neal Peart of RUSH > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 23:23:01 EDT > From: gmsanbo@chopin.udel.edu (BIG G) > Subject: RE: Jason Schneider > > Regarding which DT album to get next - I can't > help much because I only have two other albums besides I&W - > When Dream and Day Unite and Live at the Marquee (which is stuff > mostly from these 2) - But WDADU is very impressive, if you can > stand Dominici. He's not REAL bad, but he's shit compared to LaBrie. > Besides that, the album has some really good material. IMHO of course. > G > > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > + Garrett M. Sanborne + "Ahhh, so what? It just felt great to + > + gmsanbo@chopin.udel.edu + waste another freak." + > + ( ) )~~\ + -- The Possessors + > + ( ) of ) ) + "I stood at the door to a new beginning + > + (___) )__/ + Two choices before me and I was afraid." + > + Univ. of Delaware + -- Fates Warning + > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 10 May 94 20:30:06 PDT > From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) > Subject: Re: live recordings > > > I'm a relatively new DT fan and all I own of theirs at > the moment is I&W. What would you suggest I get next? I've > heard a lot about the various bootlegs that are around. I don't > have a lot of spare money at the moment, so I think I can only > afford one - which should it be? > Thanks, and let's see if we can get the discussion > traffic higher than the unsubscribe traffic! :-) > > -Jason > _________ > > I'd suggest Live at the Marquee. For under $20, it's a deal. > It sounds better than DoE, IMO. While it might not have the > variety of DoE, it's a hell of a lot cheaper and there A > Fortune in Lies and The killing Hand are just awesome! Plus, > you get the improve jam as well. > > Zach > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 10 May 94 21:09:53 PDT > From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 394/Am I Evil > > > Michael Bahr: > > Hell, here we go again... (for want of lack of traffic) > > No, No, and No. Rush and Dream Theater a two different bands. The > only connection they have, is that Rush at one time (LONG AGO) were > progressive. > > Well... I think Hold Your Fire was a big progression from > Power Windows and then Presto (even though I don't care > for it too much) was a bigger progression from HYF. (RTB > was a bit backwards though). And Counterparts is a hell > of a progression yet. But I do admit I'm talking about > a progression as the *sound* of Rush goes... > > Here are the obvious differences: > > Dream Theater are simply better musicians than Rush... sorry. > > No you're not. > > Dream Theater intentionally make some more commercial songs, early > Rush did not (they might be more like current Rush here). > > That's true. > > Rush did commercialize beginning with "Permantent Waves." > > Ditto. > > Dream Theater include more longer songs than Rush did on each album. > > More musicians= more input/creativity= longer songs > > > I mean, I think you're reading too much into the influences thing. Sure, > Mike thinks Neil is a great drummer (so do I)... He's not planning > on cutting all his hair off in 10 years... > > What the hell? He only does that because he likes to > bicycle on tour between close venues. Keeps it out of his > eyes (and fools all those "Neil has cancer/leukemia/AIDS!" > idiots. > > Whatever "parallels" you find are just coincidence. > > So? That's what Mike was pointing out. Of course DT > isn't repeating history intentionally. > > I mean, 8 songs? Wow!! 99.9% of all albums out today are limited to 8 songs. > > See above. > > How about this: Rusty quit, Dominici was fired. > > That's true, too. > > I&W is not sucessful... It still hasn't reached gold status in the US. > > No, but it's pretty damn close, isn't it? (John said so > in an radio interview at the Grammys). > > And wow, you already have the 4th album ready, huh? Let me guess: > "1212 by Dream Theater" > > After listening to the Majesty Demo, I think Dream Theater > is progressing in much the same way Rush has at a lot of > points. They defined a certain sound/style and have been > improving, maturing, and smoothing it out since *within the > context of their own sound*. But stood on the shoulders of > giants. IAW was a big jump from WDADU. (DAMNIT! Mike Bahr > get off my keyboard! man, that guy is everywhere!) IMO, it > goes up there on my list with the greatest albums ever put > out in rock (MP- Rush, IAW- DT, MOP- Metallica, Lovedrive- > Scorps (a great breakthrough for those guys)... In fact, > I think IAW is so good, I don't see how much more DT can > progress. We'll probably be having this discussion after DT > puts out a few more albums and some new band cites them as > an influence. Wow! The parallels. See, it's all a giant > conspiracy masterminded by that evil Mike Bahr. > > hey, will there be a live album after that? > > There already is a live album, so I doubt it. > > C'mon... Take this crap to NMS... I don't even read the Rush newsgroup > anymore... > > I don't even subscribe because of all the bad vibes I > hear about it. > > > Too many people like that... > > Too many people like what? Your mom? > > I mean, a Rush convention? > > Huh? > > Zach- zack@lsil.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 10 May 94 22:29:18 PDT > From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) > Subject: Re: ProgVMetal > > > On May 2, 15:15, BIG G wrote: > > Subject: Re: ProgVMetal > > I'd have to say I'm #3 - love the prog, also love the metal. > > Sometimes I need a severe Metallica fix, but not as often as > > a Rush fix. Dream Theater combines the best of both!!! :) > > G > > Hear hear!! > > > -- End of excerpt from gmsanbo@chopin.udel.edu (BIG G) > > Only thing is that I get need the Metallica fix more often > than the Rush, though I love them both. In fact I just saw Rush last > Tuesday and I'm seeing Metallica this summer. Now, if I can top that > off by seeing Dream Theater in the fall I can die a happy man. :-) > > -Jason > ________ > > Definitely. I'm seeing Metallica at Cal Expo Sacramento, and > Shorline Mountain View (two days in a row!) in July. Dream > Theater has a new album out at the end of summer and then a > tour, Rush will have a new album (live or studio--- the consensus > isn't certain yet)/vid and then the 20th anniversary tour in > the winter, and Queensryche willl have a new album out (hopefully)/ > tour, as well! Definitely a great year in rock. > > Zach - zack@lsil.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 11 May 94 01:52:34 EDT > From: whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White) > Subject: Re: live recordings > > I think that you should either get Live at the Marquee > or When Dream and Day Unite. WDADU > has a different singer, so if you really like > I&W, and want to be 100% sure you like the tape > you buy, get LatM, otherwise, if you want to try > the other one, go for it :) They're both excellent. :) > But I'd buy one of these before buying a boot > (IMHO :) > Chris > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 00:07:08 -0700 (PDT) > From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> > Subject: Re: live recordings > > > I'm a relatively new DT fan and all I own of theirs at > > the moment is I&W. What would you suggest I get next? I've > > heard a lot about the various bootlegs that are around. I don't > > have a lot of spare money at the moment, so I think I can only > > afford one - which should it be? > > Look around for LIVE AT THE MARQUEE. It's cheaper than most bootlegs, > an authorized release, and will serve as an introduction to two songs > from the first album. Besides, "Surrounded" on LatM is, IMO, even > better than on I&W. (!) > > > -- > Once you're touched you stand alone | Paul W. Cashman > To face the bitter fight | vanyel@crl.com > Once I reached for love | Dream Theater > And now I reach for life | <- "Learning to Live" > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 10:04:21 +0200 (MET DST) > From: Markus"Mackan"Forsblom <tdi9001@abacus.hgs.se> > Subject: T-shirt > > I'm just woundering about the mail adress to the dude responsible for the > DT t-shirts, 'cause i wanna get a few (6) of those shirts, but I seems to deleted the adress to that dude. > > So if any1 know the mail-adress, please mail me... > > -- > .---------------------------------------------------------------------------. > I Rock'n'Roll ain't noise pollution - AC/DC I > I---------------------------------------------------------------------------I > I Name : Markus Forsblom | Favorite GolfClub : Driver I > I IrcNick : Mackan | Sunglasses : RAY-BAN Wayfarer I > I Country : Kingdom Of SWEDEN | Coding in : C/C++ I > I Telnet : tdi9001@abacus.hgs.se | Drink : Coca-Cola (c) I > I mackan@astrakan.hgs.se | Eat : Big Mac&Co I > I---------------------------------------------------------------------------I > I Official BETA tester of Arts & Letters 4.0 I > I---------------------------------------------------------------------------I > I Hooters Hooters, Yum Yum Yum, I > I Hooters Hooters, On A Girl That's Dumb - Al Bundy I > `---------------------------------------------------------------------------' > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 11 May 94 11:14:37 BST > From: M.J.Thomas-SE2@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk > Subject: Re: live recordings > > If you're interested in live stuff, I'd recomend Live at the > Marquee. Although it's mostly stuff off their studio albums, it's > damn good, and seeing as it's not a bootleg it supports the band > more. My only complaint is that it's only 45 minutes long. It's > worth it, though, just to get the bass lines on Pull Me Under. > > Matt. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 11:10:52 -0500 (EDT) > From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> > Subject: Re: alt.music.dream-theater > > > Date: Tue, 10 May 94 18:17:31 MET > > From: freak@salyko.cube.net (Alex Reinelt) > > Subject: alt.music-dream-theater > > > > Hi folx... > > > > Why don't we move all to alt.music.....?? > > Now we have this board there seems to be noone who writes in it.... > > Would be much cheaper for me.... > > > No... first of all, alot of sites don't have access, and alot won't > ever have access... That is the problem with band specific boards, > and why alt.music.d-t was such a bad idea... Also, newsboards tend to > become flame-fests... alot worse than any of the flame wars that have > occured here... The reason for the low traffic here is cause alot of > people have finals, and are unsubscribing for the summer... wait > until the new CD is released, or everyone gets back from summer > break... > > > -- > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | This world is spinning around me | > | This world is spinning without me | > | Every day sends future to past | > | Every breath leaves me one less to my last | > | Dream Theater Pull Me Under Images and Words | > | Michael Burstin Brandeis University | > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Let's Go Pens Let's Go Pens Lets Go Pens Let's Go Pens | > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 11 May 94 17:40:50 MET > From: freak@salyko.cube.net (Alex Reinelt) > Subject: Re: alt.music-dream-theater > > > > > > Why don't we move all to alt.music.....?? > > I don't like that idea. #1, I don't have time to always check my > > newsreader, #2, I don't have access to a.m.d-t, and #3, mail works beter > > (better) IMHO. Just my 2 cents though :) > > Too bad! i didnt know that many of you dont have access to a.m.d-t! But > it really hurts when you see that there is a d-t newsgroup and absolutely > noone writes in it..... > > bye, Freak > *>>>> Freak is Alexander Reinelt from Munich/Germany <<<<* > # UUCP: freak@cube.net FIDONET: Alex_Reinelt@2:2480/66 # > # voice: ++49-89-68 33 40 FAX: ++49-89-689 18 71 # > *>>>>> You can't beat the real freak...! (Coca-Cola) <<* > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 11:09:51 -0500 (CDT) > From: Paul M Hudalla <huda0004@gold.tc.umn.edu> > Subject: King Crimson > > To all DT fans, > > I love bands like DT, Rush, Queensryche, etc. Since I have heared King > Crimson conpared to these bands, I was wondering if anyone out there would > like to give me a prescription for my first King Crimson cd. I play > drums, so percussion is an important part of the music to me. Please > consider what a drummer would want to hear! > > Thanks to the souls who respond, > > --------------------------------->the bungler > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 10 May 94 09:07:56 CDT > From: James=Utz%Mech%PCPD=Hou@bangate.compaq.com > Subject: DT & Queensryche > > > I would also welcome this concert if it came to town. It would help DT get > more exposure. I've seen plenty of good bands play as opening acts and the > only drawback is the time they are given. > > It would surely be better than Queensryche's last opening act in Houston, > Suicidal Tendencies (yuck). I'm not trying to be close-minded, but I think > they suck. They don't compare well with Queensryche at all. > > James > James=Utz%Mech%PCPD=Hou@bangate.compaq.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 17:08:53 +0800 (WST) > From: Tim Villa <tvilla@tartarus.uwa.edu.au> > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 394 (Surrounded) > > I've figured out all the chords a while ago-yes it is in G, we also have > a nice little progression of Am Bm C D at "She will slowly..." and > "Tonight I'll still be..." which sounds great when picking. > > If anybody would like me to post the full chord/lyric sheet let me know > by email and I'll be happy to oblige. > > Tim > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Tim Villa tvilla@tartarus.uwa.edu.au > "I don't believe that what you see has anything to do...with me" > Jesus Jones, YOUR CRUSADE > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Connection closed by foreign host > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 17:39:27 -0500 > From: MEPATRIC@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU > Subject: My horrible fate > > I don't like posting administrative crap to the list, but sending to > ytsejam-owner is giving me no response. I haven't gotten the list for over > three weeks now and need to have a change of address ASAP. > > Old address: mepatric@koschp1.delcoelect.com > > New address: mepatric@indyvax.iupui.edu > > Sorry Jason, but I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER !!!!!!! AAARRRGGGGHHHH !!!!! > > P.S. If anyone knows where (or if you have them yourself) I can get the > last three or so weeks of digests, please email me. PLEASEEEEEEE. > > Mike > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 19:55:51 -0500 > From: CNotes <wk05522@worldlink.com> > Subject: Free King's X sampler!!!! > > OK, here's the deal, King's X has been putting on absolutely killer shows all > over the country. While opening for Pearl Jam, Eddie Vetter watched from the > side of the stage and wondered why this progressive metal power trio isn't > HUGE already. Well, apparently, not enough of you are hip to King's X so the > band is going to try to change that by putting their music in your hands. > Send us your address and we'll send you a sampler of their music. All you > have to do is respond via e-mail to: wk05522@worldlink.com and do the > following: > > 1. type "King's X" in the Subject line > > 2 Enter on one line (or two, if it doesn't fit on one): > > First Name <tab key> Last Name <tab key> Street/Apt <tab key> City <tab key> State <tab key> Zip <tab key> Country <tab key> e-mail address > > You can send up to two additional addresses (in the same format as above) of people you know who are NOT familiar with King's X and they, too, will receive, FOR FREE, a King's X sampler! > > (NOTE: We'll be sending out 3,000 samplers on a first come, first served basis so let's hear from you!) > > Any questions? Please follow-up to: wk05522@worldlink.com > > P.S. This message will expire on June 12th. Allow 6 weeks for delivery. > > > P.P.S. Please respond ONLY if you're not already a King's X fan. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 13 May 94 14:59:24 CDT > From: Blake Butterworth <butterwo@cs.tulane.edu> > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 389 > > Unsubscribe Blake Butterworth (butterwo@cs.tulane.edu) > Losing account > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 14:56:47 -0700 (PDT) > From: Daniel Robinson <robindg@u.washington.edu> > Subject: Tour > > > Hi All, > > I'm new to this particular newsgroup, but I have heard that in > addition to DT releasing their new album on the same day as Queenryche, > but that they will also be touring togeather this summer. Can anyone > verify for me as to the truth behind this? > > Thanks... > > "If it doesn't matter if you win or lose, > then why the hell keep score?" > > --Daniel Robinson <robindg@u.washington.edu>-- > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 14 May 1994 03:10:11 PDT > From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh) > Subject: Re: ProgVMetal > > The last time I needed a Metallica fix... I had a lobotomy... I'd rather > listen to Smashing Pumpkins than those sell-out dickwads... > > And that's pretty bad... cause I wouldn't listen to Smashing Pumpkins if > you paid me.... > > hahahahahahahahahaa > > > > by the way... I think Dream Theater has much more influences from Fates > Warning than Rush... > > > -The Doc > > -- > =+=+*&^*^%&%$%$$#%$#%#$!@$#@$%^%&&&^*&((*)(*)(*&*(*(&(^&*&^*&^*&^&*^&*&^=+=+= > Real: drkhoe@netcom.com Virtual: drkhoe@gnu.ai.mit.edu > > The Dream Theater Archives: ftp.netcom.com: /pub/drkhoe/dt > ====$%($#)%($#%*@)*$#*$)%*@)*)*)!!)$)%*^)%$^*%$)^*)&*^)%&^%)&^)*&)*^%^#@!==== > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 14 May 1994 03:11:12 PDT > From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh) > Subject: Re: live recordings > > Basically... if you don't have When Dream and Day Unite... you will never > be a complete Dream Theater listener... > > -The Doc > > -- > =+=+*&^*^%&%$%$$#%$#%#$!@$#@$%^%&&&^*&((*)(*)(*&*(*(&(^&*&^*&^*&^&*^&*&^=+=+= > Real: drkhoe@netcom.com Virtual: drkhoe@gnu.ai.mit.edu > > The Dream Theater Archives: ftp.netcom.com: /pub/drkhoe/dt > ====$%($#)%($#%*@)*$#*$)%*@)*)*)!!)$)%*^)%$^*%$)^*)&*^)%&^%)&^)*&)*^%^#@!==== > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 14 May 94 13:36:02 PDT > From: rtoscano@icogsci1.UCSD.EDU (Richard Toscano) > Subject: video inquiry > > hello- > I am interested in obtaining a copy of the "Live in Tokyo" video, > which I hear is quite good. I checked out Ranjit's stock, and he has a video > called "Music In Progress - Live In Japan." Is this the same thing? If not, > is it as good or better than the other? What is on it? > > Thanks, Rich > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 15 May 94 01:47:36 EDT > From: AceRadical@aol.com > Subject: alt.music.fates-warning > > I realize that a fates post on ytsejam is a bit off the subject, but since > these two bands are all such great buds, what the hell? > > Lets all get on our new newsgroup and put up some posts!! > > Ace > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 15 May 94 21:19:06 EDT > From: MikeP81576@aol.com > Subject: Forward digests ? > > This is a really huge favor I'm asking, but could somebody email me and let > me know that you can forward the digests to me until I can get my account > problems cleared up? For some reason, Jason hasn't switched my address yet > and I've gone without the digest for about a month now. > > Mail me at either: > > MikeP81576@aol.com or...... > mepatric@indyvax.iupui.edu > > Thanks, > > Mike > > P.S. Jason, help me !!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 22:19:43 -0500 (CDT) > From: Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu> > Subject: Stuff > > Whoever the guy that wanted the DT shirts was, I need the money soon! > Also, for anyone interested, I can get the new Lords of Sound boot, so > first come first serve. I just got LiLI part I, and I couldn't help but > notice that James could actually sing at this show. If he could sing like > this all of the time, I might actually pay attention to the vocals of DT. > I'm not trying to start a flame, but compared to DOE, and DOL, he sounds > like he's at his prime vocally. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > According to the circle of fifths, and the pattern of sharps and flats: > If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sig's) (i.e > A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major > would have 4 sharps. > > emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu > ERIC MOEGLING: > emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 02:13:38 -0700 (PDT) > From: dpapalli@sdcc8.UCSD.EDU (BULLS ^4) > Subject: Gail called !!!! > > I'm sitting around the house this Sunday afternoon, picking my ass, > and the phone rings. Who? Gail from the DT fan club!! Damn, I've > never heard of a fan club with a personalized service like this. > Way cool. She basically called me to answer some of my questions > that I addressed to the fan club. Unfortunatly she had nothing new > to say about the band, other than what we already know. > She sounded really cool on the phone, and YEAAAAH she had a sexy > voice. This made my Sunday afternoon. > Someone asked what the Johns' and James' answers were to the > most stupid suggestion question that I read in a magazine. Well... > tell you the truth, I don't remember... > > Demetris > > ------------------------------ > End of Digest > ************************ >

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