YTSEJAM Digest 575
Today's Topics:
1) Re: portnoy
by Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
2) Cameras QR etc
by Adam Soudure <gillius@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>
3) Renoir?
by Mozo21@aol.com
4) Chicago tics...
by MikeP81576@aol.com
5) Re: Apology and Songs done live- Mild Spoiler
by William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
6) Set changes with FW?
by VetMed97@aol.com
7) Re: "Scarred" Missing on Tape
by William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
8) Re: Peart vs. Portnoy rd. 2
by Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>
9) WDADU/James compilation
by Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>
10) James Labrie wasn't the singer for Helloween
by Toru "SHIRO" Shirayanagi <shiro@sc.ed1.yamaha.co.jp>
11) Peart vs. Portnoy rd. 2
by 2112@rmii.com (Douglas Yoder)
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 573
by Matthias Murra <mamurra@Informatik.Uni-Bremen.DE>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 570
by 2112@rmii.com (Douglas Yoder)
14) t-shirts
by Jeremy Longley <jcl1008@cus.cam.ac.uk>
15) Re: Many things
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
16) Re: Just testing!
by V C Morrison <UGVMORRI@ECUVM.CIS.ECU.EDU>
17) Any boots from Baltimore yet?
by hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
18) Could someone please get me a shirt!!
by hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
19) Re: Peart vs. Portnoy rd. 2
by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
20) Re: portnoy
by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
21) Re: Apology and Songs done live- Mild Spoiler
by Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
22) Re: "Scarred" Missing on Tape
by Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
23) Max CD length
by Neil.D.Evans@Dartmouth.EDU (Neil D. Evans)
24) Re: Portnoy
by "El Tigre" <BVD100@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
25) T-SHIRTS OFFER
by gilesmj@ccmail.apldbio.com
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Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 17:44:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: portnoy
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9410311718.A24802-0100000@uclink.berkeley.edu>
On Mon, 31 Oct 1994 ytsejam@arastar.com wrote:
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 18:01:04 -0500
> From: jsg140@psu.edu (Jason Gianni)
> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
> Subject: portnoy
> Message-ID: <199410302300.AA28568@genesis.ait.psu.edu>
>
> I've heard a lot about Mike being from New Jersey. Can someone tell me
> what town, or area, in New Jersey he is from? Thanks..........
>
> -Jason-
Actually, I heard that he was from New York. Long Beach in Long Island,
if I remember right from the MEAT magazine interview that somebody was
nice enough to type in. (BTW, to whoever that was, thanks!!!)
Younis Hilal
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 09:56:54 +0800 (WST)
From: Adam Soudure <gillius@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Cameras QR etc
Message-ID: <199411010156.JAA09803@lethe.uwa.edu.au>
Firstly to those who want to take cameras to the gigs...
I would advise against cheap disposable cameras, the results will
probably not be very pleasing. Use a fast film because the lighting
conditions in the average club or venue aren't brilliant. Please, for
the sake of the guys in the band -- Dont use a flash!! Speaking as a
performer myself, flash photograhpy can be very distracting, sometimes
even dangerous. Use the available light instead (thats why you use a
fast film). You are also less likely to get your arms broken by the
security if you don't use a flash.
Secondly my 2cents about the new QR...
I can't believe the sledging of QR both in ytsejam and on the metal
groups! PL is not as bad as everyone has made out. Anybody would think
that we're talking about a new madonna release here!! I reckon that
Promised Land is a step forward for the ryche after Empire, less
commercial, but just as diverse. There are some songs that I haven't
really gotten into yet like Disconnected (doesn't seem to go anywhere)
and Bridge (a little too personal for my liking). However, there are
some utterly kick ass tunes on the disc as well like One More Time, My
Global Mind, Damaged (my personal fave) and Someone Else? The great
thing about QR is that they are constantly progressing (there goes that
word again :), none of their albums sound the same. Compare Mindcrime to
Rage for Order or Promised Land...just chill out people :)
Adam
-- *** RUSH ELP YES QUEEN QUEENSRYCHE FATES-WARNING KING'S-X *** *** Adam Soudure can be reached at: *** *** gillius@tartarus.uwa.edu.au *** *** *** *** Keyboard Player and OS/2 User *** *** *** *** IRON-MAIDEN MOTORHEAD GENESIS KANSAS TRIUMPH K-CRIMSON***------------------------------
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 21:23:36 -0500 From: Mozo21@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Renoir? Message-ID: <9410312025266650600@aol.com>
<<IMHO (_only_) however, it's like being pissed that you paid 2 million bucks
for the Renoir, which has 1700 less brush strokes than the Warhol you only paid a million for ;)>>
So, we would agree that it has nothing to do with the quality. But if I bought a Renoir with a sticker that said 'This is the most brush strokes EVER on a painting', then I would rightly be pissed. (well not exactly pissed- but I would say it was a sham).
BTW, now I wonder how cassette sales stack up to CD sales. I get the impression that record companies are very happy with cassettes and many people prefer cassettes. Of course if the profits are better on CD's, then customer preference be damned.
Andy
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Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 23:29:41 -0500 From: MikeP81576@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Chicago tics... Message-ID: <9410312128026694956@aol.com>
Could the person who had the two extra Chicago tickets send me some email, ASAP? I definitely need one of them and would rather not go through Ticketbastard, and I'm not even sure there are any left.
Mike MikeP81576@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 23:10:23 -0500 (EST) From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: Apology and Songs done live- Mild Spoiler Message-ID: <MihPyja00WB80KKXoY@andrew.cmu.edu>
charlie didnt really write the lyrics to afterlife, they played it with chris collings back when they were majesty. its on one of the bootlegged concerts. its just bullshit to make charlie look like he did something other than sing
*yawn*
if YOU want to know ----- bill bajzek ------- and if YOU want to know just what i see ------- impaler@cmu.edu ------------ where were going look at yourself --- http://www.contrib.andrew --- keep your distance and dont ask me ----- .cmu.edu/usr/wb2a/home ----- and dont follow me D E R E K Derek D E R E K Derek D E R E K
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 03:26:52 -0500 From: VetMed97@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Set changes with FW? Message-ID: <9411010034456819769@aol.com>
Hey there all,
I was just curious as to if anybody thinks that after DT and FW join up in St. Louis there will be a set change in the DT show? I mean, hell I'm sure FW will be playing a lot longer than IME has... just a thought :-) I would appreciate any input from you "insiders" :-) Luckly I'll be going to the Kansas City show and will get to see the bands together... Thanks ahead of time. :-)
Brian
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Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 23:06:39 -0500 (EST) From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: "Scarred" Missing on Tape Message-ID: <QihPvDO00WB84KKWwj@andrew.cmu.edu>
after the show, when i wa talking to derek, some roadie shouted at him that he had to go learn it for the next show. which would mean tonight in columbus.
if YOU want to know ----- bill bajzek ------- and if YOU want to know just what i see ------- impaler@cmu.edu ------------ where were going look at yourself --- http://www.contrib.andrew --- keep your distance and dont ask me ----- .cmu.edu/usr/wb2a/home ----- and dont follow me D E R E K Derek D E R E K Derek D E R E K
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 01:39:51 -0600 (CST) From: Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: Peart vs. Portnoy rd. 2 Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9411010115.A17830-0100000@bigcat>
Now kids...for those of you that are new to the group, we had a MAJOR problem with this sort of thing not too long ago. We had Peart vs Portnoy, and Lee vs Myung...both battles are a total waste of time, and a complete waste of disk space for some YTSEJAMerz. So PLEASE take it to private e-mail! Please note, I'm not a moderator, and I have absolutly no authority to tell you guys what to do...this is just a suggestion! Later all!
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ERIC MOEGLING: emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu as297@freenet.hsc.colorado.edu
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On Mon, 31 Oct 1994 Godsize@aol.com wrote:
> I don't know who wrote that Mike Portnoy pisses on Neil Peart but he must not > have been thinking. Neil Peart is and always will be the greatest drummer. > Everything he does is so original. Mike is good but you can tell that he > get his ideas from Peart. One thing I would like to see Peart do that Mike > does a lot is use doublebass. Of course who am I to question a god like > peart. I guess he feels it doesn't really fit the music so I agree. > > Trey > >
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 02:10:28 -0600 (CST) From: Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: WDADU/James compilation Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9411010234.A19874-0100000@bigcat>
If there's enough interest, and everyone really wants to do this, I have some companies who do this sort of thing. I could inquire about the lagality of it, and could most likely get the Cd's pretty cheap (like between 3-7 bucks each depending on art work...if my memory serves me correctly). I (with some help from others) would really enjoy doing this sort of thing, and could easily get access to equipment (as I work for a studio...off and on). Anyone up for it send me (not the list) mail, and as for getting some help, If you're interested, drop me a line (for example, you'd be willing to donate a boot for a week for this, or something). Also, ALL borrowed CD's WILL be returned in exact same condition (given we do go through with this). Later!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- According to the circle of fifths, and the pattern of sharps and flats: If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sig's) (i.e A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major would have 4 sharps.
ERIC MOEGLING: emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu as297@freenet.hsc.colorado.edu
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Date: Tue, 01 Nov 1994 17:10:54 +0900 From: Toru "SHIRO" Shirayanagi <shiro@sc.ed1.yamaha.co.jp> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: James Labrie wasn't the singer for Helloween Message-ID: <9411010810.AA10875@rock.sc.ed1.yamaha.co.jp>
>>The other night at the Manhatten Center, I heard some tool say the James Lab rie >> used to be the lead singer for Helloween!!! I figured that one of you guys >>would know for sure....please tell me he's wrong!!!
No. James didn't sing for Helloween. I heard he was from Canadian band CONEY HATCH (not sure) and they didn't release an album.
First vocalist of Helloween was Kai Hansen (now GAMMA RAY). Second was Michael Kiske (he's seeking solo). And now, Andi Deris (ex PINK CREAM 69).
------ Shiro
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 94 04:01 MST From: 2112@rmii.com (Douglas Yoder) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Peart vs. Portnoy rd. 2 Message-ID: <m0r2GyB-0001UaC@rockymtn.net>
>I don't know who wrote that Mike Portnoy pisses on Neil Peart but he must not >have been thinking. Neil Peart is and always will be the greatest drummer. > Everything he does is so original. Mike is good but you can tell that he >get his ideas from Peart.
That's a really good point. It is very obvious (especially on Awake, IMO) that the most major influence to Mike's playing style is Neal.
I remember mentioning that even though I was able to duplicate almost (at least I hope I used the word _almost_ -- I'd hate to think that I'd be expected to play Natural Science after all these years, flawlessly ;) ) all of Neal's stuff, but that writing such incredible drum parts was quite another story. It's easy to get caught up in the technique and forget about the incredible artistic talent it takes to create those parts.
Neal: 1 Mike: 1
Next!
hehe...
>One thing I would like to see Peart do that Mike >does a lot is use doublebass. Of course who am I to question a god like >peart. I guess he feels it doesn't really fit the music so I agree.
>Trey
2112
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 11:35:01 +0100 From: Matthias Murra <mamurra@Informatik.Uni-Bremen.DE> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 573 Message-ID: <199411011035.LAA16109@bettina.informatik.uni-Bremen.de>
>after hearing the musicianship of DT it made QR seem >obsolete. To be able to compete with masters like Rush or the brilliant >songwriting of DT
The *song*writing is something QR is IMHO better at than DT, DT has great musicians - as you have pointed out, still QR isn't a band with mediocre musicians :-) -, but sometimes they (Petrucci especially) get "carried away" as just play the bloody guitar as fast as he can, "screw melody" (I'm exaggerating on purpose :->). The solo in a QR song, for example, always fits in nicely with the rest of the song, it's not just "Let's see how fast I can play the scales ..."
Though QR and DT may both belong to the "progressive" domain, they're quite different IMHO and both excellent at what they're doing. I see no reason for bashing on PL, never mind *comparing* it to Awake ...
>Notice how QR doesn't have any Instrumentals.
SO WHAT?
Greets, Matt
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 94 04:28 MST From: 2112@rmii.com (Douglas Yoder) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 570 Message-ID: <m0r2HOO-0001PsC@rockymtn.net>
>>This is starting to get annoying.
>I believe it is you who is getting annoying! (All that math was unnecessary)
Well, to start, I didn't direct my comments at a person, just the thread, so I think you're beginning to chalk up some points for annoyance yourself by turning this into a personal thing. I think your attitude is unnecessary. The math was there to help to explain the reasons for CD length limitation.
If you really hate that technical stuff, I think there are a couple of fresh posts for you to slam on today...
>>Seems more likely to me that the record company decided to sacrifice a >>little tape integrity for some extra $$$, than that they are trying to rip >>you off by not including a track on the CD.
>Excuse me, but I consider not including a track on the cassette "for some extra >$$$", to be identical to "ripping the consumer off." Your post was full of you >contradicting yourself, and the moral to the story is, Scarred should be on the >cassette.
Contradicting myself? Hmmm...
Well, I'm sure it did appear that I was contradicting myself, as you didn't seem to grasp what I was saying. Let me try again. I was attempting to say that it sounded more like the makers of the Extreme CD were sacrificing the integrity of their cassette (due to the fact that you just can't get durable commercial-grade tape in lengths like that) than that the makers of the DT tape were "ripping you off" by not including Scarred. Yes, it sucks if you don't have a CD player, but as someone else posted, I'd rather get a quality tape that will last longer and miss a song than get the extra song and have to replace it sooner or have it sounding like shit after a month of playing. Just an opinion, though. No need to get defensive or abusive.
>Even the members of DT are irate about it. They told me.
Good. I think it's a shame it's not on the tape as well, but whether or not the band is pissed is irrelevant to the point.
>Now we may end this shit.
Thank you, god.
>KAI
2112
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 11:02:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Jeremy Longley <jcl1008@cus.cam.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: t-shirts Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.941101110213.17742A-100000@grus.cus.cam.ac.uk>
for the second time of asking!
where can I get hold of a YTSEJAM t-shirt
PLEASE TELL ME!
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 06:59:51 -0600 (CST) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Many things Message-ID: <199411011259.GAA21160@galaxy.galstar.com>
> invented the head of the research group loved a certain concerto which > is 76 mninutes long, so he decided that CDs would be 76 minutes. > That's why there's wasted space. Then again, I'm not sure if that's > true or just an urban ledgend. Take it as you will.
Yes... it was Philips who made the standard and Bethoven's 9th (the copy they had at least) was 76 minutes so they made it the STANDARD. I can, however hold more.
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Date: Tue, 01 Nov 94 10:12:09 EDT From: V C Morrison <UGVMORRI@ECUVM.CIS.ECU.EDU> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: Just testing! Message-ID: <9411011515.AA08587@anthor.arastar.com>
Yes. A post I made to this list when I first joined didn't show up either. <pout> And I was rather surprised that I started getting Digests when I didn't request it.
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 10:43:33 -0500 (EST) From: hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Any boots from Baltimore yet? Message-ID: <199411011543.KAA10554@umbc9.umbc.edu>
Does anyone have any audio or video tapes of last weeks Baltimore show? I know that there is at least one audio somewhere because I saw some guy standing under me on the floor and I could see little record level flashing in his hands.
Please let me know!!!
************************************************************************** * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu * * * * You're fighting the weight of the world, * * and no one can save you this time. * * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. * * * * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater * **************************************************************************
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 11:19:51 -0500 (EST) From: hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Could someone please get me a shirt!! Message-ID: <199411011619.LAA14739@umbc9.umbc.edu>
I posted before but I didn't get any responses. :(
There was alot of confussion after my show in Baltimore so I failed to get a shirt. Could someone please be so kind as to pick one up for me? I would probably want the one with the album cover. Please write me and we can work out the details.
On a related note, did anyone get any of the new DT hats? How are they? I got one of the black ones from the Images and Words tour. I never wear it though cause its a piece of crap. The little peak on the front of the cap is really high and it kinda looks stupid plus the logo is not centered correctly. Do the new hats of a nice slopped front on them? Please get me a shirt!
************************************************************************** * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu * * * * You're fighting the weight of the world, * * and no one can save you this time. * * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. * * * * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater * **************************************************************************
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 09:44:45 -0500 (EST) From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Peart vs. Portnoy rd. 2 Message-ID: <m0r2KTu-0002BaC@donews.cts.com>
Let's not start this thread again, PLEASE!?!?!?!?!!?!
> > I don't know who wrote that Mike Portnoy pisses on Neil Peart but he must not > have been thinking. Neil Peart is and always will be the greatest drummer. > Everything he does is so original. Mike is good but you can tell that he > get his ideas from Peart. One thing I would like to see Peart do that Mike > does a lot is use doublebass. Of course who am I to question a god like > peart. I guess he feels it doesn't really fit the music so I agree. > > Trey > >
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 09:53:22 -0500 (EST) From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: portnoy Message-ID: <m0r2KcD-0002iCC@donews.cts.com>
From what I think I heard, I think that Portnoy mentioned that he was from Jersey in the HBB interview....I'm not sure though, that's what I heard.....
- Al > > > > On Mon, 31 Oct 1994 ytsejam@arastar.com wrote: > > > > Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 18:01:04 -0500 > > From: jsg140@psu.edu (Jason Gianni) > > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > > Subject: portnoy > > Message-ID: <199410302300.AA28568@genesis.ait.psu.edu> > > > > I've heard a lot about Mike being from New Jersey. Can someone tell me > > what town, or area, in New Jersey he is from? Thanks.......... > > > > -Jason- > Actually, I heard that he was from New York. Long Beach in Long Island, > if I remember right from the MEAT magazine interview that somebody was > nice enough to type in. (BTW, to whoever that was, thanks!!!) > > > Younis Hilal > >
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 11:25:03 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: Apology and Songs done live- Mild Spoiler Message-ID: <YihajTi00iWPI42GUj@andrew.cmu.edu>
Excerpts from mail: 1-Nov-94 Re: Apology and Songs done .. by William T Bajzek@CMU.EDU > charlie didnt really write the lyrics to afterlife, they played it > with chris collings back when they were majesty. its on one of the > bootlegged concerts. its just bullshit to make charlie look like he > did something other than sing
But it had different lyrics then didn't it? They weren't even sung over the same parts of the song.
max ------------------------------------------------------------------------- does this voice the does this voice the wounds of your soul? wounds of your soul? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- derek derek derek derek derek derek
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 11:31:55 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: "Scarred" Missing on Tape Message-ID: <IihapvS00iWPM42HdY@andrew.cmu.edu>
Excerpts from mail: 1-Nov-94 Re: "Scarred" Missing on Tape by William T Bajzek@CMU.EDU > after the show, when i wa talking to derek, some roadie shouted at him > that he had to go learn it for the next show. which would mean tonight > in columbus. >
I'm pretty sure it's TOWHTSTS that he was supposed to learn for the next show. At one point while I was talking to him, he was talking to some roadie and said something like "and get me those speakers up there, I need to learn that tune," to which I asked, "which tune is that?" and he said "Set the Sun."
max ------------------------------------------------------------------------- does this voice the does this voice the wounds of your soul? wounds of your soul? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- derek derek derek derek derek derek
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Date: 01 Nov 94 12:24:12 EST From: Neil.D.Evans@Dartmouth.EDU (Neil D. Evans) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Max CD length Message-ID: <8298879@dancer.Dartmouth.EDU>
Not that I am all that caught up in this whole argument about the maximum length a CD can be due to various compression schemes, but I have a 79:21 minute disc of Eliot Fisk playing Paganini's 24 caprices for violin on guitar (amazing!!) which plays just fine on my very ordinary CD player.. I have a few hundred discs and none of them is longer, so I would say that by pure statistical reasoning that is about the limit for a CD.
neil.d.evans@dartvax.dartmouth.edu
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 94 12:51 EST From: "El Tigre" <BVD100@PSUVM.PSU.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Portnoy Message-ID: <m0r2NOs-0000SpC@crash.cts.com>
Maybe John and John are from Long Island, but Mike said it himself on HBB that he was from New Jersey.
Vin D.
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Date: Tue, 01 Nov 94 10:25:19 PDT From: gilesmj@ccmail.apldbio.com To: freaks@anthor.arastar.com, ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com, Subject: T-SHIRTS OFFER Message-ID: <9410017837.AA783714319@ccmail.apldbio.com>
==================>>>>>>> T-SHIRT OFFER EXTRAVENGANZA <<<<<<================= To all those interested in t-shirts, hello once more! I am re-offering all my old shirts, including Paperlate and Dream Theater, since there have been a lot of requests for them. Their descriptions follow. I am also offering a new Fish "Suits" shirt, which is bound (hopefully) to be another winner. Be aware that I am also offering new colors of some styles, so be sure to specify color and size and style when ordering! Style refers to the word in quotes in each descr. title! ie. "Freaks" and "Classic Fish" are styles! Also, I am doing an order of Fish Boxers, for those "undercover" Fish fans. DT logo also available. Anyways, on with descriptions, info, etc...... ============================================================================ "FREAKS" SHIRTS/SWEATS INFO ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Front: The triangular jester 3" tall from the Thieving Magpie album cover. Back: "All the Best FREAKS Are Here" text, written in Zaph Chancery font, except for FREAKS, which is written in old Marillion-logo type font (see Script, Fugazi, etc for reference). COLORS AVAILABLE:
WHITE/ASH with black jester and text. "Freaks" written in burgundy with black trim.
BURGUNDY with off-white jester and text. "Freaks" written in off-white with black trim.
HUNTER Green shirt with same colors as above
BLACK shirt with off white jester and text. Freaks written in burgundy with off white trim. T-Shirts & sweatshirts are available in all colors as listed above.
================================================================================ "Classic FISH" SHIRTS/SWEATS INFO -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Front: The shirt front will be blank except for the left breast where it will read "The Company" in Mark Wilkinson style font. Underneath it will be a Scottish fish playing the bagpipes as seen in the Internal Exile CD liner notes, last page. Back: On the back there will be a large Fish logo in Wilkinson style as seen on the Internal Exile CD. Around the perimeter of this logo will be the words: "The Jester Is Dead! Long Live the Jester!"
COLORS AVAILABLE:
WHITE/ASH: front design in black; back logo in orange & black with red text around logo. NAVY: front design in off white, back logo in same as white shirt.
T-Shirts & sweatshirts are available in all colors as listed above. ================================================================================ "NewLogo" SHIRTS/SWEATS Info -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Front: The shirt has a snow flake on the left breast from inside the season's end CD booklet(and cover) with the words around it: "Everybody in the Whole of the World Feels the Same Inside" Back: The back has a 9"x9" square Bill Smith Studio logo, with 2 dice in different configurations of 7(such as a 3 and 4) caddy corner in all four corners. Underneath the logo is the quote "i know a place you can't die" from "A collection". This shirt doesn't pertain to the current direction of the band, but a year ago it did and people seem to like it, so I still make it.
COLORS AVAILABLE:
WHITE/ASH: ice blue snowflake w/black writing on the front. On the back there will be navy logo, black dice and text, with glow in the dark letters in square logo.
NAVY: on a navy shirt, ice blue snowflake w/off white text on the front. Back: ice blue square logo with glow in the dark letters, off white text and dice.
BLACK: same as navy above.
T-Shirts & sweatshirts are available in all colors as listed above.
================================================================================ "Jester" SHIRTS/SWEATS Info -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Front: This shirt will have a half-toned (50% grey) magpie across the front, approximately 9" in vertical length. Across this will be the old Marillion logo, in red and yellow from the Thieving Magpie album. Back: Across the top will be "Burn a Little Brighter Now" in Black Chancery font in black. Underneath this quote will be a jester in four colors approximately 8" tall. This is also from the Thieving Magpie album.
COLORS AVAILABLE: WHITE/ASH only. T's and Sweatshirts available.
================================================================================ "Suits" SHIRTS/SWEATS Info -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Front: The standard Fish Co. logo will be on the left breast, one color. By this I mean the words "The Company" written over the circular Fish logo. Underneath it will say, "Internet"
Back: Enlarged skull from the 2nd page of the liner notes in "Suits" album. It's eyes and notrils will glow in the dark. The skull should be fairly faithful to the same color scheme-- greenish pale. Around the skull on top will be written "We learned to love, we learned to kill," and across the bottom: "We taught ourselves to rule this world..."
COLORS AVAILABLE:
WHITE/ASH: front design in forest green. Skull in pale greens and yellows and glow in dark. Back text in dark (forest) green.
Burgundy: off white text on front/back. Skull is in same colors.
Black: off white text on front/back. Skull is in same colors.
T-Shirts & sweatshirts are available in all colors as listed above.
================================================================================ Fish "Boxers" info --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I've decided to try an order of boxer shorts. They will have "The Company" Fish logo on the front right leg in off white ink. Several colors will be available in cotton, one in flannel: Green-Plaid, Red-Plaid Flannel
Navy, Green or Burgundy Cotton
Sizes available are S, M, L, XL. Standard measurements apply, so Med. should fit a 32-34 waist. $15 each.
================================================================================ "DreamTheater" SHIRTS/SWEATS Info -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Front: "ytsejam" written in fancy script font with "The Internet Mailing Digest" underneath is small block text. Design is white.
Back: 8" wide Dream Theater logo as seen on any album. Underneath the quote: "Let the light surround you". Text glows in the dark. COLORS AVAILABLE: BLACK t-shirts and sweatshirts only. All designs are in white and glow in the dark inks.
================================================================================ "DTBoxers" Info -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These boxers have the Majesty symbol with a small Dream Theater logo on the front right leg in off white. These are also available in flannel or cotton as follows:
Green-Plaid, Red-Plaid Flannel
Navy, Green or Burgundy Cotton Sizes available are S, M, L, XL. Standard measurements apply, so Med. should fit a 32-34 waist. $15 each.
================================================================================ "Paperlate" SHIRTS/SWEATS Info -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This shirt is especially designed for the Paperlate subscribers, but of course anyone can order one. Black is not available. The design runs as follows:
FRONT:
From <-----------Foxtrot font Genesis <-----------Lamb font (without reflection) ... ::::::: Purple silhouette of Peter in ::::::::: <---------the flower mask, from the ::::::: torso up.
to <----------3SL cursive font
o o o o o Silhouettes from WayWeWalk II cover, K K K K K <-------Darryl=green, Chester=purple, Mike=blue, Tony=rose, Phil=gold
Revelation <----------WCD purple brush stroke font
"I Know What I Like..." <----First Half of quote
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BACK:
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: ______________________________________________________ :: :: / ////////////////////////////////////////////// :: :: / / //////////The Genesis Mailing List//////////// :: :: / _____////////////////////////////////////////////// :: :: / //// . / . / ___/ . / //// . /__ _____/ :: :: / //// / ___/ ___/ / //// //// / ___/ :: :: /___////__/__/__////_____/__/___\____/__/__////__/____/ :: :: :: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: paperlate@ansto.gov.au :: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
"In My Wardrobe..." <-----Done in same color and font as the first half of the quote
COLORS AVAILABLE: WHITE/ASH only. T-Shirts & sweatshirts are available.
============================================================================= ============================================================================= ORDERING INFO! ============================================================================= ============================================================================= First and foremost, always remember to include STYLES, SIZES _AND_ COLORS when ordering!!! It saves you and me time!!!! It is also nice if you include a phone number and address on your first order message to me. This way I can contact you quickly if I have a question, AND I can enter your address into my database immediately and don't have to search for it on an envelope, etc. Also, please send money as soon as I send confirmation! The sooner the better!
ALL shirts and sweatshirts are 100% cotton, pre-shrunk Hanes Beefy T's. (some shrinkage will still occur, but not much).
All shirts are $14.00 each. If you need an xxl size, add $1.00 per shirt, and for xxxl add $1.50 per shirt. All Sweatshirts are $40.00 each. Boxer shorts are $15.00 a pair.
SHIPPING: United States/Canada: all shipping costs are included in the prices above Overseas: Add $4.00 per item to cover airmail shipping charges
I will accept checks, money orders or cash in US funds only! Please make sure you don't bounce any checks! To the people that are first ordering from me, this is the way I handle it: I collect orders and money, then purchase the shirts and then send them out. It is a slow process sometimes, but prevents me from randomly ordering sizes-- this way I am not stuck with shirts no one wants. One last thing: I will confirm your order via e-mail, and when I do, I will tell what your order is and how much I expect. Please send me the money as soon as you can! The faster I get the money, the faster your shirts get to you! I will accept checks, money orders(postal or bank) or cash. Send money to:
Jason Giles 3200 Payne Ave. #525 <<-------- Notice new address! I am no longer in San Jose, CA 95117 Davis, take note!!
Deadline for shirt requests is NOVEMBER 15TH!!!!!! I am not guaranteeing delivery before Christmas, since it will be unlikely that I can take orders, have them printed and mail them all in time (especially with Christmas mailing rush). I will try my damndest, but if you do order anj item as a gift, it will most likely be a late one! Sorry!
Send requests for orders to me at the address(es) below:
jgiles@crl.com (preferred ordering address) gilesmj@ccmail.apldbio.com (your last resort)
Send orders to ONLY ONE address! Any more questions, comments, cliches, commentary, controversy, please ask! jason
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