YTSEJAM Digest 578
Today's Topics:
1) Grilling the band...
by MikeP81576@aol.com
2) Re: DT B-More -- Spoilers
by Phil Felicia <FELICI53@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>
3) DT Interactive...
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
4) FTP Interactive disk
by buffalo@panix.com (C man)
5) Re: DT B-More -- Spoilers
by Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
6) Asking about Kev at shows
by Christopher Taylor Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 577
by MattMiz@aol.com
8) band meeting & fan size base ?s for you...
by 2112@rmii.com (Douglas Yoder)
9) Grilling the band...
by 2112@rmii.com (Douglas Yoder)
10) band meeting & fan size base ?s for you...
by Brian Nielsen <norman@iesd.auc.dk>
11) More on use of triplets on Awake
by smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve Mansfield)
12) Re: band meeting & fan size base ?s for you...
by RideMeLikeNJTransit <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
13) RE: Grilling the band...
by TIM LODGE SGA/PRE-LAW/MICRO/MAC LABS <LODGE_TIM@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>
14) New boot discog almost ready
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
15) Re: DT B-More -- Spoilers
by Douglas Merrell <merrell@cs.fsu.edu>
16) Re: When Dream & LaBrie Unite
by EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu
17) Re: DT B-More -- Spoilers
by Phil Felicia <FELICI53@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>
18) Re: When Dream & LaBrie Unite
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
19) Re: Grilling the band...
by EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu
20) Re: DT B-More -- Spoilers
by EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu
21) DT related band reviews cont...
by "backof michael ( bs ifsm)" <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
22) When Dream and LaBrie Unite
by "backof michael ( bs ifsm)" <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
23) Re: Grilling the band...
by Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>
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Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 23:15:54 -0500
From: MikeP81576@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Grilling the band...
Message-ID: <941103222824542880@aol.com>
Am I the only one becomming uncomfortable with everyone posting about how
when they were hanging with the band after a show they started making all
these obscure references to such and such, as if to prove something? It's no
wonder they react as if they are offended at times. Whatever happened to
"Great show. Love your stuff." ???
Mike P
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Date: Thu, 03 Nov 1994 15:04:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Phil Felicia <FELICI53@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: DT B-More -- Spoilers
Message-ID: <01HJ1P5S9RO29BYG5Z@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>
>
>> One more thing: When they say their NOT going to play SDV live they mean it...
>> Not even the little sample in the MIRROR, still REALLY cool though.
>
>Are you serious? you mean that keyboard melody of SDV at the end of Mirror?
>They don't play it live? how do they end the song?
>>
>> Phil,
>>
>
>
>--
>
> _______-------_______
> / |\ ' | ` /| \ "Love is the Dance of Eternity"
> / | \ / \ / | \ -Dream Theater-
> ( | \/ \/ | )
> \ | / \ / \ | /
> \ |/ , | , \| /
> -------_______------- Tim Altman: altman@sfu.ca
>________________________________________________________________________________
>
>
It was just a base riff...although someone mensioned that the keybords levels
may have been screwed, so maybe Derrik did play it, but I sure as hell didn't
hear it.
Phil,
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Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 22:53:51 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam SERVER)
Subject: DT Interactive...
Message-ID: <199411040353.WAA26174@rasp.cs.brandeis.edu>
Well, css.net finally has the Windows version of the DT interactive
thing up... it is at ftp.music.net /pub/music/dt/DT_INTERACTIVE/dt.zip
The thing is about 800k compressed, and 1.5 megs uncompressed... It
ran perfectly on my 486-50 w/ 8 megs, so I can't see people having
problems. It appears to be identicle to the one on the Mac, only it
actually runs on a normally configured machine...
Overall, it is a sorta cool thing, and I'd love to see the entire
press release CD-ROM...
The section on songs has a few samples to choose from, although the
song names are shortened...
The one thing that I am very dissapointed in is that in their Q&A
section, the questions and are DIRECTLY from OUR FAQ, and the answers
just rearrange the answers to various questions from the FAQ. This
would not really upset me (I think it is sorta cool) except there is
NO MENTION of Ytsejam, Mike Bahr, or any of us in the credits...
Anyway, it still is a cool thing... definatly download it and take a
look whenever you have a chance...
--
+--------------------------------+---------------+---------------------+
| I never bared my emotions | Dream Theater | Michael Burstin |
| My passion always strong | Scarred | Brandeis University |
| I never lost my devotion | Awake +---------------------+
| but somewhere fate went wrong. | Get AWAKEned today, in stores now |
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
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Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 23:29:31 -0500
From: buffalo@panix.com (C man)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: FTP Interactive disk
Message-ID: <aadf220600021004c0f0@[198.7.7.109]>
Finally, the Windows version of the Interactive Guide to Awake is now
available at:
ftp.music.net/pub/music/dt
Your comments, as usual, are welcome. And, please spread it around.
BTW, saw the show in NYC last Friday--the guys are very into everything
that goes on here; on behalf of them, THANK YOU.
C man
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Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 00:07:20 -0500 (EST)
From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: DT B-More -- Spoilers
Message-ID: <UiiQ68C00iVE8CuFop@andrew.cmu.edu>
Excerpts from mail: 3-Nov-94 Re: DT B-More -- Spoilers by
EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu
> They did play the SDV part in the Mirror, at least in Pittsburgh. I
don't see
> the song sounding right without it. Unless they messed it up, you probably
> just didn't hear it.
well, they did play it here (pgh), but very quietly. i could barely hear
it...chalked it up to a mixing snafu...
max
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6:00 The siren kicks him from a dream
Like a scream but sort of silent
living off my nightmares
Voices protecting me,
"Look in the mirror my friend"
the mirror falls behind you
Voices rejecting me,
"Never come near me again."
How could you be so cruel?
It's a wonder I can still breathe
I never lost my devotion
feeling my heart pull west
i never bared my emotions
can you rid me of my secrets?
I'm witness to redemption
The rest remain misled
condescending
why won't you leave me alone?
Do you really think I need you?
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derek derek derek derek derek derek
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Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 23:30:07 -0800 (PST)
From: Christopher Taylor Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Asking about Kev at shows
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9411032306.A29735-0100000@am.ucsc.edu>
It seems to me that people are noticing that the band gets grumpy
whenever asked about Kevin, and assuming that it is because the leaving
was not totally friendly. Well, let me ask you. If you were in a band,
and the number one question from fans who meet you after a show where
you've just worked your butt of is "What about x who left the band?"
Wouldn't you be a bit grumpy? Why not ask them about themselves, or the
album, or something that relates to Dream Theater as it exists now?
Kevin was my favorite member (I play Keyboards) But I'm seriously
thinking of wearing a sticker on the front of my shirt that says "I
Promise not to ask about Kevin" to the show. I just think it's kind of
rude to be perstering them about Kev.
~Chris
__ /\ __
__\/__\/__
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/__||__\
// \ | \\
\|
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Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 02:13:46 -0500
From: MattMiz@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 577
Message-ID: <941104011748648352@aol.com>
Matthias writes:
<<Does anyone have the notes (or tabs) to "Wait For Sleep"?
If so, it would be very kind to send them to me. :-) >>
As long as you don't start the dreaded "What time signature is WFS in?"
debate again! :)
Just a little (very little, actually) humor.
Matt
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Date: Fri, 4 Nov 94 03:58 MST
From: 2112@rmii.com (Douglas Yoder)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: band meeting & fan size base ?s for you...
Message-ID: <m0r3MM6-0001U9C@rockymtn.net>
>I am on a Van Halen mailing list, and 2 or 3 people have mentioned
>their "close encounters" with the band... Any NOBODY else has even
>come close... meanwhile we are here discussing constant conversations
>with the band (and others like Fates Warning, etc) and how cool they
>are, and how they hang around with the fans...
Yeah, I've never heard of even a local band that is so cool about meeting
the fans...
>As much as it would be great if more people started getting into DT &
>FW, would it make the band less accessable to us? Anyway, this is
>always a difficult question for me to try to answer... What are the
>opinions of most of you?
I wish it could go on forever, but my realistic side doesn't think it
likely. I think that when we wish our favorite band huge success as we all
to DT, it's just something we have to live with, knowing that as the years
go by they will undoubtedly become more distant. It makes me quite sad but
I think it's fair to them to accept that this is what happens as you get
more and more successful.
My wishes are different. I would love to see DT be one of the few bands in
history to find some way of maintaining contact with all of their old
diehard fans over the years. I will still be accepting of them if they are
unable to but these are my hopes as they were with Rush.
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.oo. |
.oOOo. | * Remember that we are all spiritual beings *
.oOOo. | * having a human experience... *
.oo. |
.. | When we stand on the edge of all that we
| have known, one of two things will happen:
Encourage Liberal | A bridge will appear at our feet or we
Use of Intellect | will be taught how to fly.
and Free Will!! |
___________________|
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Date: Fri, 4 Nov 94 04:07 MST
From: 2112@rmii.com (Douglas Yoder)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Grilling the band...
Message-ID: <m0r3MUj-0001U9C@rockymtn.net>
>Am I the only one becomming uncomfortable with everyone posting about how
>when they were hanging with the band after a show they started making all
>these obscure references to such and such, as if to prove something?
No.
<deletia>
>Mike P
Thanks,
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/\ | : 2112
-=<2112>=- | home : 2112@RMII.COM
^^ | work : Yoder@comet.enet.qntm.com
.. |
.oo. |
.oOOo. | * Remember that we are all spiritual beings *
.oOOo. | * having a human experience... *
.oo. |
.. | When we stand on the edge of all that we
| have known, one of two things will happen:
Encourage Liberal | A bridge will appear at our feet or we
Use of Intellect | will be taught how to fly.
and Free Will!! |
___________________|
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Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 15:32:54 +0100
From: Brian Nielsen <norman@iesd.auc.dk>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: band meeting & fan size base ?s for you...
Message-ID: <199411041432.PAA12729@xi.iesd.auc.dk>
>>>>> "Michael" == Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> writes:
Michael> I am on a Van Halen mailing list, and 2 or 3 people have
Michael> mentioned their "close encounters" with the band... Any
Michael> NOBODY else has even come close... meanwhile we are here
Michael> discussing constant conversations with the band (and
Michael> others like Fates Warning, etc) and how cool they are,
Michael> and how they hang around with the fans...
Michael> This all leads me to question whether it would be good
Michael> for DT to grow to a larger scale, along the lines of
Michael> bands like VH or Rush... Bands where fans don't normally
Michael> get to meet the band...
Well, the question is who decides. I mean, is it the band or is it
their management who decides if they are allowed to hang out with
their fans? From managements viewpoint it's a potential risk to hang
out with fans, who knows what might happen? Someone might try to kill
them! I know it's a grotesque example but I hope you see what I mean.
As long as the band is on a relatively "small" scale, theres no need
to be that precautious.
I've got the expression that DT are nice people, I don't think they
will stop hanging out with their fans, as long as they are allowed to
do so by their management.
Well, just my opinion, whatever it's worth :)
--
+------------------------------------------------+
| Brian Nielsen |
| Department of Mathematics and Computer Science |
| Aalborg University, Denmark |
| |
| email: norman@iesd.auc.dk |
+------------------------------------------------+
Sorry, I dont have a DT signature... Yet
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Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 09:43:58 -0500 (EST)
From: smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve Mansfield)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: More on use of triplets on Awake
Message-ID: <QQxooo25613.199411041443@rodan.UU.NET>
I believe it was here (and not on a.rnr.m.p) that people were commenting
on the guitar and drumming using "differing rhythms" on The Mirror, when
John is really actually playing triplets. I posted an explanation of
these. I found another case of their usage in Scarred. Listen to to
the section where James is singing:
People in prayer for me
Everyone there for me
Sometimes I feel I should face this alone
It sounds like 4/4 time to me when you listen to Mike's rhythms, but the
beat pattern for James' vocals are definitely more triplets. Gives a
great effect to the song.
Anyway, just an FYI.
Steve Mansfield |See my diary on the newstand seems we've lost the truth
smm@uunet.uu.net |Quicksand it's a shame no one is praying, cause these
|Voices in my head keep saying love, just don't stare
|Dream Theater - Voices - Awake
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Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 10:36:21 -0500 (EST)
From: RideMeLikeNJTransit <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: band meeting & fan size base ?s for you...
Message-ID: <m0r3QiW-00026WC@donews.cts.com>
>
> This all leads me to question whether it would be good for DT to grow
> to a larger scale, along the lines of bands like VH or Rush... Bands
> where fans don't normally get to meet the band...
>
> As much as it would be great if more people started getting into DT &
> FW, would it make the band less accessable to us? Anyway, this is
> always a difficult question for me to try to answer... What are the
> opinions of most of you?
>
> --
> +--------------------------------+---------------+---------------------+
> | I never bared my emotions | Dream Theater | Michael Burstin |
> | My passion always strong | Scarred | Brandeis University |
> | I never lost my devotion | Awake +---------------------+
> | but somewhere fate went wrong. | Get AWAKEned today, in stores now |
> +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
> For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
Personally, I don't see them being as close and "hanging out"
with their fans if and when they become really big, especially
if they go and play the bigger venues.....I mean, right now, they
have no problem signing stuff after the show and bullshitting with
the fans, but if they start playing to 10-20,000 people, there is
no way they'll see themselves doing the same kinda stuff-
everything will be multiplied by over 100-fold......
It's a shame that something like this has to happen,
but I guess there has to be some kind of tradeoff that occurs.
So everybody take advantage of it while you can!!! :)
Later,
Al Balkiewicz
vocals, Half Naked
NEXT SHOW: Gennaro's, Weehawken, NJ
November 11, 1994, time TBA
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Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 11:14:22 -0500 (EST)
From: TIM LODGE SGA/PRE-LAW/MICRO/MAC LABS <LODGE_TIM@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: RE: Grilling the band...
Message-ID: <941104111422.2080f465@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>
Well Mike P.....
How many HUNDREDS of fans of DT see the band after wards and say the
SAME 5-10 things:
1) you kicked ass 2) loved your stuff 3) you rule
4) petrucci plays like a god 5) i love awake 6) space dye vest is great.
Granted, all of these things are true about the band and the music, but
we Ytsejammers are, well, real fans. We are the ones who have spent
hundreds of dollars and spent many hours to get the most of the band we
all enjoy so much. I guess when people ask very obscure questions
(ie: wanted dead or alive, winter rose, ACoS), they are trying to
find out critical information while, yes, proving to the band that they
just aren't the same guy that just bought Awake last week........
Tim
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Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 13:24:17 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam SERVER)
Subject: New boot discog almost ready
Message-ID: <199411041824.NAA03252@amber.cs.brandeis.edu>
Well, I finally decided that it was time to clean out my account, and
redo the bootleg discog, before any new CDs start to appear. I have
eliminated the audio tape section from the listing from the I&W tour
on becuase there are just too many of them. I will post the list once
I clean it up and reorganize and re-order the listings.
--
+--------------------------------+---------------+---------------------+
| I never bared my emotions | Dream Theater | Michael Burstin |
| My passion always strong | Scarred | Brandeis University |
| I never lost my devotion | Awake +---------------------+
| but somewhere fate went wrong. | Get AWAKEned today, in stores now |
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 13:55:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Douglas Merrell <merrell@cs.fsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: DT B-More -- Spoilers
Message-ID: <199411041855.SAA27692@cs.fsu.edu>
[stuff about a part of SDV in the pitt. show]
>
> max
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 6:00 The siren kicks him from a dream
> Like a scream but sort of silent
> living off my nightmares
> Voices protecting me,
> "Look in the mirror my friend"
> the mirror falls behind you
> Voices rejecting me,
> "Never come near me again."
> How could you be so cruel?
> It's a wonder I can still breathe
> I never lost my devotion
> feeling my heart pull west
> i never bared my emotions
> can you rid me of my secrets?
> I'm witness to redemption
> The rest remain misled
> condescending
> why won't you leave me alone?
> Do you really think I need you?
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> derek derek derek derek derek derek
>
>
>
hey max,
I was wondering what's the significance of ALL of these quotes from
AWAKE? Are you trying to bring together all the stresses of LaBrie's
voice when "sung" sequentially? I read through them as they are in the
lines of the songs and I really don't find any relation among them.
These must be YOUR favorite lines! I will ASSURE you that if I put up
every line that I liked, it would look like bits and pieces of a
transcription! I would like to know if there is a meaning behind all
these lyrics besides the fact that there is MUCH, MUCH emphasis in every
single line.
Thanks,
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** EMAIL: merrell@cs.fsu.edu /------------// **
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Our great computers fill the hallowed halls." -- N. Peart
"Love is an act of blood and I'm bleeding
a pool in the shape of a heart." -- K. Moore
"She can turn a drop of water, into an ocean." -- J. Myung
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Date: Fri, 04 Nov 1994 15:17:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: When Dream & LaBrie Unite
Message-ID: <01HJ33ED3CV6935M5G@vms.cis.pitt.edu>
About the WDADU live disc idea:
I like it, but I'm not sure the lagalities are gonna fly. I think someone
should talk to Mike Portnoy about getting Light Fuse and Get Away with James on
vocals. If he knew how intent we are on doing this, he might be willing to
help us out. Be sure to make obvious that we are not in this for profit. This
is just something to keep us (ytsejammers) busy and content. We also should be
patient for the best version of TOWHTSTS. The version of "Only a Matter of
Time" that we put on it should be the one on LitS with "March of the Tyrant"
tacked on the end of it. That tune is really cool. Also, I think To Live
Forever should be on it since this song actually dates back that far. Same
with A Change of Seasons of we can fit it (this song was written around the
time Metropolis was written). Eve however is not that old, and is really a
I&W - Awake song. So if we divide by era, it shouldn't on it, but if we're
just out to get everything that's not on I&W or Awake on this compilation, then
put it on. I think we'll be dealing with space constraints with all 11 songs
though, especially with the extras (Mission:Impossible, Another Hand, March of
the Tyrant). I wouldn't want to do it without LFAGA, though.
Comments, suggestions?
KAI
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Date: Fri, 04 Nov 1994 16:40:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Phil Felicia <FELICI53@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: DT B-More -- Spoilers
Message-ID: <01HJ36T68RXE9BYJO1@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>
>
>
>>One more thing: When they say their NOT going to play SDV live they mean it...
>>Not even the little sample in the MIRROR, still REALLY cool though.
>
>They did play the SDV part in the Mirror, at least in Pittsburgh. I don't see
>the song sounding right without it. Unless they messed it up, you probably
>just didn't hear it.
>
>KAI
>
The show that I was talking about was Buffalo and I agree about the song not
sounding right w/o it...but I think the keyboard level was off(they had a lot
of trouble with the vocal levels at this show) At first I thought they *chose*
not to play it , but since you all have heard it, then it must have been a mix
up at the Buffalo show.
Phil,
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Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 15:36:16 PST
From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: When Dream & LaBrie Unite
Message-ID: <199411042336.PAA16987@netcom20.netcom.com>
I can get CD's made but it's gonna cost you some bucks!
-The Doc
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Date: Fri, 04 Nov 1994 15:49:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Grilling the band...
Message-ID: <01HJ34KS6XRI935M5G@vms.cis.pitt.edu>
>Am I the only one becomming uncomfortable with everyone posting about how
>when they were hanging with the band after a show they started making all
>these obscure references to such and such, as if to prove something? It's no
>wonder they react as if they are offended at times. Whatever happened to
>"Great show. Love your stuff." ???
>Mike P
I believe you are the only person uncomfortable with this. At least the band
wasn't. Hanging with Petrucci and Portnoy for a half hour each wasn't an
interrogation, it was a bullshit session. They enjoyed talking to dedicated
fans, and asked me questions about the internet, our group, Pittsburgh etc..
It was a conversation. Also, before jumping into deep questions, you bet your
ass the first thing out of my mouth was "Great show, you guys are the greatest
musicians." I present myself as a fan, not a reporter. After probing
carefully, I made the judgement whether or not they were into deeper
discussion. LaBrie obviously was not, so it went no futher than, "You're
awesome. Sign this please." Myung was too soft spoken for me, I felt like a
conversation wouldn't have gone to far. Derek, actually started the 30 min.
conversation with my group. John and Mike were both really into taling about
everything from Majesty to what's up in the future.
I have more info that I forgot to include the other day, but I'll have to put
it in a SPOILER message.
KAI
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Date: Fri, 04 Nov 1994 15:52:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: DT B-More -- Spoilers
Message-ID: <01HJ350YUGIC935M5G@vms.cis.pitt.edu>
Derek did play the SDV part in the Mirror, however the keyboards were mixed
very low in Pittsburgh. Plus, I was in the front of the crowd, and I was about
even with the P.A. speakers, meaning I got mostly stage volume coming at me.
This could account for te lack of keyboards that I heard.
KAI
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Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 16:55:26 -0500
From: "backof michael ( bs ifsm)" <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT related band reviews cont...
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.90.941104162714.19277B-100000@umbc8.umbc.edu>
More Reviews...
Early Warning is a band that is out of Atlanta, USA. Their "The Hero's
Dream" tape is probably one of the better small label albums I have heard
in a while. At times this band sounds a bit like Fate's and at times
like Queensryche, but they blend the style in a way that I have never
heard. Wings of Steel is a very powerful song, on the hard side with
great guitar. Beholden is a more melodic tune similar to the tunes of
Queensryche. I highly recommend this tape, contact Mark@gap.gsu.edu if
you want more info.
Enchant is a band out of California who worked with Marillion guitarist
Rothery and has a harmonic vocal similar to King's X. The guitar playing
is similar to Marillion.
Inferno is a band that seems to want to be Dream Theater with a harder
edge of older Metallica and some Iron Maiden. The lyrics are similar to
something that Dream Theater would write, though the technical prowess of
the members isn't that great at this point. The new material from
Inferno should be a lot more powerful as the band matures.
Lethal is a clone of Queensryche's Warning album that was released by
Metal Blade in 1990. If you love Warning, this album is worth getting
because it is like adding 45 minutes more music to the CD.
Magellan is a band heading in the direction of Dream Theater with a kinda
technical keyboard lead (imagine Kevin running DT totally). There is
some industrial sound and the drums are played by the keyboard player.
Some songs like Breaking These Circles and Magna Carta are excellent,
some such as Friends of America are just poor and skippable (mostly due
to lyrics). The second album is lyrically much better than the first
(Impending Ascention) and more keyboard driven. Still a favorite of mine.
Mastermind features the Berends brothers. Bill plays guitars and his
brother the percussion. Bil is an incredible guitar player, if you love
Johnson, Satriani, and Mainsteen, this album is for you. Guitar sound is
not like the mentioned players, it is MIDI guitar, producving all of the
keyboard like effects with speed untouched by a keyboardest. Brainstorm
is a highly recommended album (not that metal, but very hard).
Mercury Rising is a local band to Baltimore with a lot of of the sound of
Iron Maiden. Minute Man is the highlight of the EP and the vocalist
screams the refrain over rumbling bass. Their new disk which should be
out any time now is suppose to step towards DT and FW in sound, but this
band definitely has talent.
POA, Progress of Agression captures the vocals of Mustane and the guitar
of Puppets Metallica, with many other metal backgrounds into an album.
It really isn't me favorite of the bunch, mostly because of the changes
infrom song to song, but it is enjoyable. If you like straight metal you
should enjoy this.
Savatage is another favorite band on this list and in the prog metal
category. Sirens / Dungeons is the only album I have bt them, but it is
strong metal, and I quite like it. The only thing that would make it
prog are the fantasy references in the lyric. Still recommended.
Next installment will be e-mail addresses
for some of these bands....
Mike
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Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 17:21:37 -0500
From: "backof michael ( bs ifsm)" <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: When Dream and LaBrie Unite
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.90.941104171449.19277C-100000@umbc8.umbc.edu>
I'd be interested in helping with this project. I have all but two of
the songs on CD, I'd also help to destribute to others. Hope this thing
can work itself out. ( I have confidence in you Mike!!)
As of the band becoming popular and snubbing fans, I think that it would
be great for the guys to get popular, even if they would no longer be
able meet with us after shows. Its kinda selfish for us to think
otherwise. I just hope that if they make it big, it is on THEIR terms
and not the terms of a conprimising record company. I'd hate to see them
end up like Tesla or Great White (no offense to fans of either bands
intended).
Later,
Mike
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Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 20:28:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Grilling the band...
Message-ID: <9411050428.AA00691@kits.sfu.ca>
>
> Am I the only one becomming uncomfortable with everyone posting about how
> when they were hanging with the band after a show they started making all
> these obscure references to such and such, as if to prove something? It's no
> wonder they react as if they are offended at times. Whatever happened to
> "Great show. Love your stuff." ???
i was wondering if _I_ was the only one. :)
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