YTSEJAM Digest 579
Today's Topics:
1) new songs
by Hailey <pass@u.washington.edu>
2) RE: Grilling the band...
by Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>
3) Re: When Dream & LaBrie Unite
by Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>
4) Majesty Demos on Awake!!!!
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
5) WDADU CDs available
by Craig Caldwell <caldwell@uu5.psi.com>
6) Re: DT B-More -- Spoilers
by Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
7) Re: When Dream & LaBrie Unite
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
8) Re: When Dream & LaBrie Unite
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
9) Re: WDADU CDs available
by mgjones@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu (Michael Jones)
10) RE: Grilling the band...
by TIM LODGE SGA/PRE-LAW/MICRO/MAC LABS <LODGE_TIM@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>
11) Re: Grilling The Band
by Mozo21@aol.com
12) Re: new songs
by Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
13) *** EXTRA YTSEJAM SHIRTS ***
by Jason Hough <jhough@qualcomm.com>
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 578
by Christopher Taylor Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
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Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 19:04:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Hailey <pass@u.washington.edu>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: new songs
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91a.941104185918.77073A-100000@homer15.u.washington.edu>
I was just wondering....
As the tour progresses, do you think that we'll be seeing any
new/previously unperformed songs, what with the non-permanent status of
Derrick The Keyboard Player?
oh, and can I just say that that's a rather clever sig, max?
Chris
*---* "I am a Rock, I am an Island" -- P.Simon *---*
* *
* R.Christopher Hailey *---* I am one who delights in *
* pass@u.washington.edu * * all manifestation of the *
* tfunster@aol.com *---* terpsichorean muse -- mp *
* *
*---* "One must put up barriers To keep one's self intact" -- N.Peart
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Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 21:46:04 -0600 (CST)
From: Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: RE: Grilling the band...
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9411042118.A11580-0100000@bigcat>
I totally disagree...There's a ton of people out there who are huge fans,
that haven't even heard of our newsgroup...or can't afford either the
online service, or a computer to do it with...and they are absolutly NO
LESS important than any of us are! Personally, I think that Mike's right
on when he says he's disgusted with these kinds of questions...and I
don't think the band (John P. for example) is too flattered when some guy
wearing a "Special" shirt that proves he's different...comes up and asks
about some obscure demo song recorded a couple of years ago...as the band
has said many times, they don't like to lingger in the past...and maybe
they really hate that old material when they look back on it. This kind
of thing could eventually give us (YTSEJAMers') a bad name. Now don't get
me wrong, I'm not flaming anyone here...Tim Lodge is a totally cool
person, and I don't mean to just rag on him...but I really think we could
be a little more thoughtful...and a little more compassionate to their
feelings also...The whole "I'm your #1 fan" thing should be left for
Poison fans...I honestly can say that I think DT fans are above that
level (ALL OF YOU!!!)...so let's show them that. Take care fellow DT
enthusiasts!
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According to the circle of fifths, and the pattern of sharps and flats:
If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sig's) (i.e
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major
would have 4 sharps.
ERIC MOEGLING: emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu
as297@freenet.hsc.colorado.edu
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Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 21:58:52 -0600 (CST)
From: Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: When Dream & LaBrie Unite
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9411042137.A11580-0100000@bigcat>
Sorry to quote the whole message to the entire group (last time I did
this I got MAJOR flames...as most of you know...can you say NETCOM)
but...anyone planning on talking to Mike Portnoy about this Cd
thing...TALK TO ME FIRST!!! This is extremely important...especially if
we ever want any hope of doing this...once again...TALK TO ME FIRST!!! Later!
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According to the circle of fifths, and the pattern of sharps and flats:
If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sig's) (i.e
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major
would have 4 sharps.
ERIC MOEGLING: emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu
as297@freenet.hsc.colorado.edu
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On Fri, 4 Nov 1994 EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu wrote:
> About the WDADU live disc idea:
> I like it, but I'm not sure the lagalities are gonna fly. I think someone
> should talk to Mike Portnoy about getting Light Fuse and Get Away with James on
> vocals. If he knew how intent we are on doing this, he might be willing to
> help us out. Be sure to make obvious that we are not in this for profit. This
> is just something to keep us (ytsejammers) busy and content. We also should be
> patient for the best version of TOWHTSTS. The version of "Only a Matter of
> Time" that we put on it should be the one on LitS with "March of the Tyrant"
> tacked on the end of it. That tune is really cool. Also, I think To Live
> Forever should be on it since this song actually dates back that far. Same
> with A Change of Seasons of we can fit it (this song was written around the
> time Metropolis was written). Eve however is not that old, and is really a
> I&W - Awake song. So if we divide by era, it shouldn't on it, but if we're
> just out to get everything that's not on I&W or Awake on this compilation, then
> put it on. I think we'll be dealing with space constraints with all 11 songs
> though, especially with the extras (Mission:Impossible, Another Hand, March of
> the Tyrant). I wouldn't want to do it without LFAGA, though.
>
> Comments, suggestions?
> KAI
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 23:45:28 -0500 (EST)
From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Majesty Demos on Awake!!!!
Message-ID: <199411050445.XAA18404@umbc9.umbc.edu>
I was just listening to my copy of the Majesty Demos (something I haven't
done in a while, you all should go listen to them again!). If you will
go and listen to Resurrection (sp? - its been a looong day) of Ernie, listen
to the very last part. It is the ending of Caught in a Web. Actually its
the ending of the "demo" version that Mike played on a radio show a few
months ago. They added a few extra beats on the album version.
On a side note, do you remember how in the interview Mike kept saying how
"off" this demo was from the real thing? It sounds almost identical
accept for a few slight things, but nothing to make the big that Mike
did.
Let me know if you hear what I'm talking about with the Ernie thing.
BTW - anyone got any good boots yet? I would really love one especially from
the Baltimore show!!
See ya!
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* Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu *
* *
* You're fighting the weight of the world, *
* and no one can save you this time. *
* Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. *
* *
* "Take the Time" - Dream Theater *
**************************************************************************
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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 00:02:11 -0500
From: Craig Caldwell <caldwell@uu5.psi.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: WDADU CDs available
Message-ID: <199411050502.AAA27819@discovery.ectds.com>
Hi! I just "subscribed" to YTSE JAM, so forgive me if my point
is moot. Anyway, it seems that CDs of DT's original "When Dream
And Day Unite" release are difficult to get, yes? I'd been trying
to order it from Tower for a while, to no avail, and had pretty
much given up. Well, I was in "Best Buys" last week, and looked
just for kicks, and they had something like five copies of WDADU
on CD, as imports, for $16 or $17. I snatched one up, of course,
but if anyone else has been searching for it, I'd be willing to
play "delivery boy" by picking one up and mailing it - all I ask is
the price of the disc and shipping (up front, preferably...much
as I've been looking for it, I don't want two...<smile>).
Oh, BTW, Awake is tied for my favorite of my 400 CDs...tied with
Images & Words, of course... *:^)
Later,
Craig Caldwell (Reply to "caldwell@ectds.com" or I won't get it....).
Centreville, VA (30 miles from Washington, D.C.)
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Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 22:27:56 -0500 (EST)
From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: DT B-More -- Spoilers
Message-ID: <0iijiwq00iV5Q=_l4u@andrew.cmu.edu>
Excerpts from mail: 4-Nov-94 Re: DT B-More -- Spoilers by Douglas
Merrell@cs.fsu.e
> I was wondering what's the significance of ALL of these quotes from
> AWAKE? Are you trying to bring together all the stresses of LaBrie's
> voice when "sung" sequentially? I read through them as they are in the
> lines of the songs and I really don't find any relation among them.
> These must be YOUR favorite lines! I will ASSURE you that if I put up
> every line that I liked, it would look like bits and pieces of a
> transcription! I would like to know if there is a meaning behind all
> these lyrics besides the fact that there is MUCH, MUCH emphasis in every
> single line.
Well, I picked lines that would sort of follow logically from one
another, although not very linearly...i should have spent more time
puttint them together than I did...but if you follow one line to the
next, they do sort of make sense. you shouldn't try to read too much
into it, as I was just bored and wanting a new sig, but if you're going
to try to read it, here's an example of how...
*I'M* witness to redemption
the rest (fools) remain misled
[this is an example of someone who is]
condescending
so, i guess it's kind of surreal. just looking through the songs
and seeing if i could reorder things a bit and come up with new ideas.
don't read too much into anything. i was bored.
max
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6:00 The siren kicks him from a dream
Like a scream but sort of silent
living off my nightmares
Voices protecting me,
"Look in the mirror my friend"
the mirror falls behind you
Voices rejecting me,
"Never come near me again."
How could you be so cruel?
It's a wonder I can still breathe
I never lost my devotion
feeling my heart pull west
i never bared my emotions
can you rid me of my secrets?
I'm witness to redemption
The rest remain misled
condescending
why won't you leave me alone?
Do you really think I need you?
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derek derek derek derek derek derek
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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 09:46:26 -0600 (CST)
From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: When Dream & LaBrie Unite
Message-ID: <199411051546.JAA27968@galaxy.galstar.com>
> Sorry to quote the whole message to the entire group (last time I did
> this I got MAJOR flames...as most of you know...can you say NETCOM)
> but...anyone planning on talking to Mike Portnoy about this Cd
> thing...TALK TO ME FIRST!!! This is extremely important...especially if
> we ever want any hope of doing this...once again...TALK TO ME FIRST!!! Later!
I've though about mentioning it to Mike when I see it... why talk to you
first... mike won't mind will he?
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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 09:55:27 -0600 (CST)
From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: When Dream & LaBrie Unite
Message-ID: <199411051555.JAA28085@galaxy.galstar.com>
> I can get CD's made but it's gonna cost you some bucks!
how much, why, and how about we also put ACoS, TLF, and Eve on the CD
also for those who don't have any bootlegs... i mean if I'm gonna pay
lots of money I want to get my money worth. :)
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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 11:31:36 -0500 (EST)
From: mgjones@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu (Michael Jones)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: WDADU CDs available
Message-ID: <9411051631.AA18745@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu>
Craig Caldwell wrote:
> Hi! I just "subscribed" to YTSE JAM, so forgive me if my point
> is moot. Anyway, it seems that CDs of DT's original "When Dream
> And Day Unite" release are difficult to get, yes? I'd been trying
> to order it from Tower for a while, to no avail, and had pretty
> much given up. Well, I was in "Best Buys" last week, and looked
> just for kicks, and they had something like five copies of WDADU
> on CD, as imports, for $16 or $17. I snatched one up, of course,
Compact Disc Connection has WDADU listed at $16.72. Just telnet to
cdconnection.com and you can order it right online and have it shipped
to your door. I got my LatM Japenese version this way....I had it
about a week after I ordered it!.
______________________________________________________________________
Michael G. Jones >--< WWW Page: http://nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu/~mgjones
School: (Part-Time Student) | Work: (Senior Systems Engineer)
Miami University, Oxford, OH | RSL Systems, Oxford, OH
MGJones@NeXTSrv.CAS.MUOhio.Edu | MGJones@FreeWill.IAC.Net
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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 12:06:45 -0500 (EST)
From: TIM LODGE SGA/PRE-LAW/MICRO/MAC LABS <LODGE_TIM@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: RE: Grilling the band...
Message-ID: <941105120645.20a0d215@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>
Ok. mabey I need to rephrase what I meant here.
As far as "grilling the band goes".
of course the first thging i said was "Great Show..you guys are
my greatest inspiration...John P: You're one of the best...".
Now. after this there were plenty of questions myself and the people
around me wanted to ask. And some of them were about past things, demos,
live shows, etc. Look Correct me if I were wrong, but if my band ever
got this big, i TOTALLY WOULDNT GIVE A SH*T if people asked me about
older stuff, or whatever. In fact, I MIGHT EVEN BE FLATTTERED!.......
Even if someone asked me about a demo i might have recorded when I was 15,
sure I might be embarrassed, but i certainly would SINK SO LOW as to
be PRETERBED ABOUT IT!.
Talk about DT YTSEJAMMERS being ABOVE asking these kinds of questions,...
well I think DT should be ABOVE getting angry over them being asked...
Tim
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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 12:57:03 -0500
From: Mozo21@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Grilling The Band
Message-ID: <9411051257021462021@aol.com>
>
> Am I the only one becomming uncomfortable with everyone posting about how
> when they were hanging with the band after a show they started making all
> these obscure references to such and such, as if to prove something? It's
no
> wonder they react as if they are offended at times. Whatever happened to
> "Great show. Love your stuff." ???
Obscurity (and interest) is in the eye of the beholder. If you want to score
backstage passes or wait after the show for an hour just to say "Great show.
Love your stuff", then be my guest. I'd much rather find out information that
I can ONLY get from the band. Besides, after 2 or 3 questions, Portnoy
started grilling me with his own questions. It was alot of fun.
I seem to sense that Portnoy is 'one of us' and if he wasn't in DT, he would
be backstage with us- Grilling them!
Andy
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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 15:46:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: new songs
Message-ID: <EiiywKu00iV1E4nksj@andrew.cmu.edu>
Excerpts from mail: 5-Nov-94 new songs by Hailey@u.washington.edu
> I was just wondering....
>
> As the tour progresses, do you think that we'll be seeing any
> new/previously unperformed songs, what with the non-permanent status of
> Derrick The Keyboard Player?
>
I don't know, but I hope so. I think the set was missing something
without Wait For Sleep and Eve. If they're determined not to play those
without Kevin, then I hope they'll come up with something new along
those lines. Also something like the solo after To Live Forever (from
the tokyo vid) would be nice.
> oh, and can I just say that that's a rather clever sig, max?
>
sure. thanks
max
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6:00 The siren kicks him from a dream
Like a scream but sort of silent
living off my nightmares
Voices protecting me,
"Look in the mirror my friend"
the mirror falls behind you
Voices rejecting me,
"Never come near me again."
How could you be so cruel?
It's a wonder I can still breathe
I never lost my devotion
feeling my heart pull west
i never bared my emotions
can you rid me of my secrets?
I'm witness to redemption
The rest remain misled
condescending
why won't you leave me alone?
Do you really think I need you?
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derek derek derek derek derek derek
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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 16:26:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Jason Hough <jhough@qualcomm.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: *** EXTRA YTSEJAM SHIRTS ***
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941105162219.16364B-100000@happy.qualcomm.com>
I have 6 XL Black shirts that I ordered as extra's which just showed up
today. They are availiable immediately. These are the same shirts that
everyone has been talking about, and that Jason Giles is taking re-orders
for.
I will take the first 3 reponses from people in single-message (ack) mode,
and the first 3 responses from people in digest mode for them.
Price: 14$ each. That includes shipping (2 day). Only one shirt per person
Carpe Diem!
-Jason
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Jason Hough | jhough@qualcomm.com | http://www.qualcomm.com
"Oh, I'm sorry. Did I break your concentration?" - PULP FICTION
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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 19:42:56 -0800 (PST)
From: Christopher Taylor Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 578
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9411051943.A20078-0100000@am.ucsc.edu>
First off, to Steve:
Hate to say this, but not only is John not playing triplets iun The
Mirror (it's a 4 beat rhythm, 1 2 3 rest 1 2 3 rest...) But James'
singing in that part of Scarred isn't triplets eeither. It's a 3 3 2
syncopated rhythm, but it is still in 4/4 time.
Secondly, to When Dream & LaBrie Unite (nice title)
I don't think we really need to include Killing Hand since there's
already a good version on LaTM. I think the point fo this should be to
collect all the WDADU tracks not officially released as well as al lthe
"unreleased" tracks on a live CD. Plus, leaving off Killing Hand might
leave more room for ACoS. :)
~Chris
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