YTSEJAM Digest 594
Today's Topics:
1) Re: MP of DT and MZ of FW in MD
by Stephen Ronald Furey <sfurey@cs.mun.ca>
2) Re: Fates Warning info
by An Angel's Kiss <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
3) Re: 12/1 SF ticket available
by Douglas Merrell <merrell@cs.fsu.edu>
4) Re: DT/FW's Drummers
by An Angel's Kiss <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
5) LaBrie vs. Dominici, AGAIN
by "Mark D. Scudder" <6705324@sunybroome.edu>
6) DT EP??!!
by "GENE (FILL IN THE BLANK) SZUCS" <SZUCSEUE@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu>
7) Re: 12/1 SF ticket available
by Phil Felicia <FELICI53@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>
8) Fan Club.....
by "Jason T. Breitweg" <jbreitwe@physics.wisc.edu>
9) Re: Accesibility of Metropolis
by SLAYBAUGH <SL98MJ85@acs.wooster.edu>
10) DT, others live in Cleveland?
by "Cackowski, David" <dcackow%eastlrc@ibm4381.onet.edu>
11) Guitar Geeks Wanted!!
by "GENE (FILL IN THE BLANK) SZUCS" <SZUCSEUE@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu>
12) Eve in DoE
by Atsushi Kawami <kawami@ae.keio.ac.jp>
13) Re: Accesibility of Metropolis
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
14) Re: LaBrie vs. Dominici, AGAIN
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 08:40:48 -0330
From: Stephen Ronald Furey <sfurey@cs.mun.ca>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: MP of DT and MZ of FW in MD
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9411210842.A7193-0100000@ganymede.cs.mun.ca>
Petrucci will be filming an instructional video for REH in december. We
can expect a january or febuary release.......
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| Steve Furey, Memorial University of NFLD, sfurey@cs.mun.ca |
| or sfurey@play.psych ph.#709-739-7794 |
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 12:07:02 -0500 (EST)
From: An Angel's Kiss <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Fates Warning info
Message-ID: <m0r9cGo-0000dBC@crash.cts.com>
That's funny- I didn't get any replies from anyone...:(
I guess they know how annnoying I am! :)
- Al
>
> I, too sent a message to Maria at Metal Blade Records at the AOL address.
> She e-mailed right back with news and seems eager to help fans communicate
> with the band. If you have questions for the band e-mail her at
> MtlBldRcds@aol.com.
>
> Deb Hanson
> hansond@mail.firn.edu
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 12:14:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Douglas Merrell <merrell@cs.fsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: 12/1 SF ticket available
Message-ID: <199411211714.RAA28402@cs.fsu.edu>
[ He was talking about selling this extra ticket of a friends?.]
> something off Awake and offering the ticket to the first person to call
> in and identify the song.... Hey, anything to get these bozos to play
> DT.
>
> Ralph
> torres@Corp.Sun.COM
>
>
Good Job, Man!
I am not sure where you are, but it really isn't played enough on the radio. I know
here in Tallahassee, we are really lucky to have a local affiliate of Z-Rock out of
Dallas, Texas. The DJs are fairly decent, but they insist on the playing the same
ole Alice(jane) in Chains, Stone Temple Tailgunners, etc.
So, if you could call often and request, even the single, some DT or Rush or
Whatever your in the mood for.
D R E A M T H E A T E R R U L E S !!!!
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 11:52:28 -0500 (EST)
From: An Angel's Kiss <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: DT/FW's Drummers
Message-ID: <m0r9cSS-0000g3C@crash.cts.com>
Mark Zonder is amazing - for a great example of his stuff,
listen to "Face the Fear" on "Inside Out", excellent hi-hat
stuff and inconspicuous fills...
from the FW plug-o-matic,
Al
>
> After seeing the DT/FW twice here in Texas (FW for the first time), I was
> blown away by Mark Zonder. The man is incredible! I realized that I enjoy
> his playing much more than Mike P's. Mike is definitely good and I'm not
> complaining, but his vocabulary is much more limited than Zonder's. When I
> watch Pornoy, I see somebody who is all ARMS. His fills are all "power"
> fills where he bashes everything as hard as he can-not too much finesse. Not
> that he doesn't do neat stuff, because he does, but it's a limitation I've
> noticed. Zonder, on the other hand, is all WRIST. He isn't as flashy and in
> your face like Portnoy, but his vocabulary is immense and he really uses his
> whole kit more effectively than Portnoy. And he is absolute master of the
> Hi-Hat (and his other cymbals, for that matter). Zonder's fills and
> rhythms are like what a Jazz drummer would do. Portnoy plays straight-ahead,
> in-your-face, flashy, and loud rock drumming.
>
> Oh well-just some differences I've noticed. They are both excellent.
> ----------------
> Wolfman
>
>
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 10:49:46 -0500 (EST)
From: "Mark D. Scudder" <6705324@sunybroome.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: LaBrie vs. Dominici, AGAIN
Message-ID: <01HJQL3FKVGO8ZELUN@sunybroome.edu>
Well, I'm really responsible for this thread, so I might as well
comment more than once :-). Thanks for the attention this got, though.
It's not a black and white issue. Those of you who say LaBrie is
awesome and Dominici sucks (or vice versa) are really wrong on the basis of
generalization. Somebody mentioned that CD had no emotion in his voice.
Wrong. If you listen to your friends talk, for example (i.e. people not in
James' shoes), you'll notice that emotion is not as breathy and moaney as
JL makes it. Now this is neither good nor bad, it's *different*. CD has
emotion in his voice, that's what makes songs like "Afterlife" work. And
trust me, Afterlife *works*. It's one of the coolest songs they've ever
done, IMHO. Charlie was not a professional singer, but you have to start
somewhere. I know this because I'm not a professional singer, and I'm just
starting out. But the one thing you don't see on one album is progression
(guess that's a bad thing to say on a DT echo, eh?). In the last year, I
have gone from sounding shitty to sounding fairly decent, vocal-wise. It
comes with singing as much as you possibly could.
Special gobs of talent aside, that's why JL is so much "better" than
CD. He's had a lot more practice. He thanks his OPERA COACH in the Awake
liner notes. CD didn't have an opera coach. I've had the pleasure of working
with a singer this year who knows what she's doing, and I'll tell you it makes
things a lot easier than stabbing in the dark for your uncovered talent.
The bottom line is this: Don't *anybody* bring up the fact that
Dominici goes flat on the high note in TKH ("I am the Killing Hand!!"),
because I will bring up LATM, where James goes as flat, then he decides to
reach for a *higher* note, and doesn't really get that one either, it's more
of a bloodcurdling scream. Pound for pound, if Dominici had the training
that LaBrie has had, I think I would care for him more due to his vocal tone.
It's hard to call this anymore, though. My opinion of CD vs JL is
based heavily on WDADU and I&W only. Awake is an incredible album in its
own right. I'm a bass, and I like to be able to sing along to the stuff I
listen to, so I can find more cool moments in Awake than I&W.
But I must mention, finally, that I haven't seen them on tour this
time around. I'm going on LiT, LATM, and DOE, which is a fairly consisent
chronicle of their "Music in Progress" tour. If James has gotten better
live on this tour, I will stand corrected. I still have a great respect
for James as a singer, but I'm also very partial to Charlie.
Mark Scudder
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Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 18:42:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: "GENE (FILL IN THE BLANK) SZUCS" <SZUCSEUE@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT EP??!!
Message-ID: <01HJPNO2NUZI006TMN@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu>
Hey,
is there going to be an ep with ACOS released on it? That would be
absolutely sweet!! Tell me more!!
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Eugene E. Szucs | "It is a new age. It requires a new evil. And I am that
University of Dayton | new evil. I am the vampire for these times." -Lestat----
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"Everything's blue in this world. . . The deepest shade of mushroom blue. . .
All fuzzy. . . spilling out of my head" -Nine Inch Nails "The Downward Spiral"
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Gene's subliminals for the week:
Go see "Interview With The Vampire"
Buy Dream Theater's Awake
Eat Your Mother Twilight Rain returns next sig :)
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 15:06:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: Phil Felicia <FELICI53@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: 12/1 SF ticket available
Message-ID: <01HJQUHF2D1E9GVI99@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>
>Seems I've got an extra ticket for the 12/1 show in San Francisco.
>The one person who I had "converted" is flaking out on me...
>
>The law of supply and demand says that since this concert is not sold
>out, I'm not going to recoup my costs. So, I figure $10 or a trade of
>some "live" material would be fair.
>
>If all else fails, I might try to bribe the local station into playing
>something off Awake and offering the ticket to the first person to call
>in and identify the song.... Hey, anything to get these bozos to play
>DT.
>
>Ralph
>torres@Corp.Sun.COM
>
That's a cool idea!!!
Phil,
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 14:11:41 -0600 (CST)
From: "Jason T. Breitweg" <jbreitwe@physics.wisc.edu>
To: Ytsejam List <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Fan Club.....
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.941121140647.8792A-100000@poppy.physics.wisc.edu>
Hi All,
A couple days back Rob wrote in to the list asking about the fan club. I
also sent the fan club my sixteen bucks and I have only gotten a letter
from way back in March saying cool stuff should be on the way (so Rob you
should consider yourself lucky that you actually got a pin out of the
deal). I have written two letters since March expressing my displeasure
with the fan club but I have gotten no word back yet.
Does anyone have any idea what is going on with the club? I sure wish
the DT fan club could be run as smoothly as the Metallica fan club. For
those of your who don't know the Metallica fan club has the very
professional looking magazine and special t-shirts and all kinds of
contests. I guess the DT club will be like this when they become
mega-stars. We shall see.
I think that the DT fan club should get Internet access (like the QR and
Metallica ones have). Do you think EastWest would like that C-man?
Jason
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 15:53:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: SLAYBAUGH <SL98MJ85@acs.wooster.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Accesibility of Metropolis
Message-ID: <01HJQW0PKQDU8X7VF0@acs.wooster.edu>
in respnnse to...
>>>"Yes, anyone not interested in music as music would probably go nuts at the
polyrythms in Metropolis I. Any band that deviates from 4/4 time I can
respect, even if I might not like them. This was one of the reasons I got
into Rush at first - as a previous marching band member and drum major,
polyrythms are a fetish of mine. But to the average radio listener, it soundslike the band is confused and is f%^&ing up trying to get back together.
>>>>
First I gotta disggree and give more credit ro the average radio listener. I've got lots of buddies who aren't musicians at all, butaare fascinated by
the complexity of Dream Theater's tunes. Also, I just wanna ask, why respect a
band just because they deviate from 4/4? Do you really respect Bon Jovi? I mean,I like 'em, but I have very little respect for them. Then again you may have
just been generalizing. Anyway...just my 2 sense.
SLAY
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 94 16:25:00 EST
From: "Cackowski, David" <dcackow%eastlrc@ibm4381.onet.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: bvc8995@tamsun.tamu.edu
Subject: DT, others live in Cleveland?
Message-ID: <2ED13AE5@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>
I was recently in a record store this weekend and ran into some people
who said that a new club in Cleveland called Hang 10 will be opening very
soon and they have booked 3 acts, Dec.11th - Ace Frehley, and also Dream
Theatre(either Dec. or Jan.), and Savatage.
Does anyone on the list in the Ohio area know if this is true or just
wishful thinking on the part of Clevelanders?
Let me know.
Dave C.
Cleveland
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 14:37:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: "GENE (FILL IN THE BLANK) SZUCS" <SZUCSEUE@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Guitar Geeks Wanted!!
Message-ID: <01HJQT501FDU0079VK@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu>
It has come to my attention that other there are "a few" guitar players
out there on the Ytsejam that are very serious about their playing just like
myself. I have been swapping licks with William Kriski (another frquent flyer
on the Ytsejam) for about a week now, and it has gone great! Why don't all of
us six string racers (or uhh 7, 12, 24, etc. . ) start swapping our favorite
licks, gear tricks, or other guitar related content via e-mail, instead of
clogging up the digests with tab that a lot of non-guitarists/musicians on the
Jam really don't feel like seeing. It's just an idea, but if anyone out
there's interested, mail me,
-Gene
`~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
Eugene E. Szucs | "It is a new age. It requires a new evil. And I am that
University of Dayton | new evil. I am the vampire for these times." -Lestat----
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Everything's blue in this world. . . The deepest shade of mushroom blue. . .
All fuzzy. . . spilling out of my head" -Nine Inch Nails "The Downward Spiral"
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+===+=+====
Gene's subliminals for the week:
Go see "Interview With The Vampire"
Buy Dream Theater's Awake
Eat Your Mother Twilight Rain returns next sig :)
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 14:46:47 +0900
From: Atsushi Kawami <kawami@ae.keio.ac.jp>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Eve in DoE
Message-ID: <9411220546.AA18223@lexus.ae.keio.ac.jp>
Hi everyone :-)
Recently I got the Dance of Eternity. And I found Eve has sampling.
But I can't hear the words.
Please anyone tell me what he says.
thnx.
-----
Atsushi Kawami
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 23:54:26 PST
From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Accesibility of Metropolis
Message-ID: <199411220754.XAA16764@netcom3.netcom.com>
I could care shit for Accessibility... but unfortunately... that's what
sells records to the less critical music listeners of the world...
-The Doc
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 23:52:22 PST From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: LaBrie vs. Dominici, AGAIN Message-ID: <199411220752.XAA16525@netcom3.netcom.com>
I'll comment...
I feel that Charles Dominici was more a last minute throw in more than anything... they couldn't find the right singer, so they went with the next best thing... Mr. Dominici... and so, therefore he sings on WDADU.
I would say that Chris Collins was better than Dominici... (for those of you who have the Majesty demos)...
And thus far... James LaBrie kicks ass... He is still short on power but he is definitely gaining power to his vocals with his opera training now...
When he gets to the point where his power can compliment his range... look out Bruce Dickinson... ;)
-The Doc
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