YTSEJAM Digest 595
Today's Topics:
1) Hello it's my first contribution
by Rene-Michel Faure <Rene-Michel.Faure@cpe.ipl.fr>
2) Birthdates and more ...
by Rene-Michel Faure <Rene-Michel.Faure@cpe.ipl.fr>
3) Awake in German Album Charts
by goebel@baracuda.inf.fu-berlin.de (Ties Goebel)
4) Re: Accesibility of Metropolis
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
5) DT European Tour Dates ???
by goebel@baracuda.inf.fu-berlin.de (Ties Goebel)
6) FAtes & DT
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
7) promo-cd
by wagner@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de
8)
by "Paul Holloway" <pjhollow@wheel.watstar.uwaterloo.ca>
9) Re: Hello it's my first contribution
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
10) Accesibility of Metroplis 2
by ACW1066@aol.com
11) Re: FAtes (tour info)
by Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>
12) re: LaBrie vs. Dominici, AGAIN
by "tdb" <tdb@SMTPGwy.microsim.com>
13) New Revamped FAQ
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 10:58:35 WET
From: Rene-Michel Faure <Rene-Michel.Faure@cpe.ipl.fr>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Hello it's my first contribution
Message-ID: <199411221058.KAA05227@cpe.ipl.fr>
Subject: New Dream Theater bootlegs
Hi,
My name is Stephane Auzilleau and I am a new recipient. I manage a kind of
French Fan Club of Dream Theater, named "Your Majesty", supported by the
band and their management. I publish a quaterly 12 pages newsletter about
the band. It is written in French. Anyone interested can contact me.
I discovered the band in 1987, when I received their first demo in my
letterbox. When I listened to it, I was totally amazed and since I am a
huge Dream Theater fan.
I would like to add some titles to the bootleg listing because I own 7
bootlegs CD that are not listed. I would also like to give some
informations about the list of bootlegs.
It exists other audience videos: Utrecht 4/10/94, Arnsberg 4/14/93,
Copenhagen 4/2/93, Milano 11/15/93,...
Dream Theater never played in Paris in October 1992. They did only 2 shows
in France: Paris, La Locomotive, April 13, 1993 and Paris, Elysee
Montmartre, November 17, 1993.
The "lost in the sky" bootleg is a radio broadcast, mixed with a DAT
audience recordings for 2 tracks: "Under a glass moon" and "March of the
tyrant" (at the end of "Only a matter of time").
Addition to the CD bootleg listing:
- Split Cd Jag Panzer / Majesty, 1993, CD (Luxumburgh)
Reborn Classics 1001
::23,24,25,26,28 + tracks from Jag Panzer
Live and alive, vol I and II, 1993, 2CD (Germany)
PR Records, Imm 40.90205 & 206
It is a copy of "Consciously unreal", except for the 2 last tracks that are
a guitar solo and a version of "Only a matter of time" with James La Brie
on vocals (probably from the 1992 Us tour).
::13,1,14,12,3,10,39,4,9,11 ::15,16,13,6,17,8,49
Dance of eternity, 1994, CD (Luxumburgh)
Rocks 92111
1 CD recorded in Buffalo, May 18, 1993. This is a radio broadcast.
It is a little different of "Dream out loud" because it features the full
version of "Learning to live" (cut off on DOL) and "Eve"!
::13,14,2,15,17,50,46,10,9,18,16.
"Puppies on acid", 1994, CD (???)
1 CD Bondage Music 009
Audience recording, Milwaukee, June 29,1993
Great cover, with shots from the members of the band.
::13,14,1,15,12,21,11,17,46,2,10
"Excellent", 1993, CD (Japan)
1 CD Nova 09
Recorded in New York, July 22, 1993.
::14, 12,21,11,17,45,2,10,9,16.
"Milan 93", 1994, 2CD (Italy)
2CD Live Storm 52593
Radio recording, Mila, Italy, November 15, 1993.
This is the same as "Lost in the sky".
"Live Images", 1994, 1CD (Germany)
1 CD Living Legend 246
Recorded in New York, 1993?
Nice cover with Dream Theater stamped into the coloured. Good sound. It
doesn't sound like the Limelight show.
::13,1,14,12,11,18,9,10,4,15.
That's all for now. Iam collecting bootlegs (CD, audio, video,...) and I
would like to get in touch with people that do too. Does anyone own a copy
of the US bootlegs "A fortune pulled under", "Images and tour!" and
"Runes"?
Cheers,
Stephane.
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 12:13:05 WET
From: Rene-Michel Faure <Rene-Michel.Faure@cpe.ipl.fr>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Birthdates and more ...
Message-ID: <199411221213.MAA06210@cpe.ipl.fr>
Hello,
Answering to Kevin Laferrie, here are the birthdates of the members of Dream
Theater : Mike Portnoy (April 20, 67), John Myung (January 24, 67), John
Petrucci (July 12, 67), James La Brie (May 5, 63) and Kevin Moore
(May 26, 67).
The Awake Tour will be here, in Europe, only in February. I can't wait until
there to hear them !!! Can anyone provide me with a live tape from the
Awake US Tour ?
I am also looking for a copy of the following : Sundance Bayshore 11/17/90,
Sparks Deer Park 10/25/86 and the vocalists auditions tapes.
Great Reward ! I am thanking you in advance girls and guys.
Stephane
Your majesty, c/o Stephane Auzilleau, 2 rue des cyclamens, 86180 Buxerolles,
France.
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 13:59 MET
From: goebel@baracuda.inf.fu-berlin.de (Ties Goebel)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Awake in German Album Charts
Message-ID: <m0r9uoS-00005lC@baracuda.inf.fu-berlin.de>
Awake in the German album charts since its release:
32. - 23. - 15. - 20. - 28.
What about the other countries ?
Ties
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 08:59:28 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Accesibility of Metropolis
Message-ID: <199411221359.IAA00791@pearl.cs.brandeis.edu>
> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 15:53:09 -0400 (EDT)
> From: SLAYBAUGH <SL98MJ85@acs.wooster.edu>
> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
> Subject: Re: Accesibility of Metropolis
> Message-ID: <01HJQW0PKQDU8X7VF0@acs.wooster.edu>
>
>> Yes, anyone not interested in music as music would probably go
>> nuts at the polyrythms in Metropolis I. Any band that deviates from
>> 4/4 time I can respect, even if I might not like them. This was one of
>> the reasons I got into Rush at first - as a previous marching band
>> member and drum major, polyrythms are a fetish of mine. But to the
>> average radio listener, it soundslike the band is confused and is
>> f%^&ing up trying to get back together.
>
> First I gotta disggree and give more credit ro the average radio
> listener. I've got lots of buddies who aren't musicians at all,
> butaare fascinated by the complexity of Dream Theater's tunes. Also, I
I would definatly agree there.... using myself as the perfect
example... I don't play any instrument, yet I completly and totally
appreciate the complexity of DT's songs... (although this probably at
least partially comes from the fact that over half of my friends at
home are musicians...)
--
+--------------------------------+---------------+---------------------+
| I never bared my emotions | Dream Theater | Michael Burstin |
| My passion always strong | Scarred | Brandeis University |
| I never lost my devotion | Awake +---------------------+
| but somewhere fate went wrong. | Get AWAKEned today, in stores now |
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
http://cs.brandeis.edu/USER/UGRAD/mikeb/home.html
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 14:08 MET
From: goebel@baracuda.inf.fu-berlin.de (Ties Goebel)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT European Tour Dates ???
Message-ID: <m0r9uxT-00005lC@baracuda.inf.fu-berlin.de>
I just read on a.r`n`r.m.p (hope you understand that) that DT is playing
at Vredenburg, Utrecht (Holland) on Feb. 13 and Feb. 14 .
Does anyone know any other European tour dates ?
Ties
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 10:02:08 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam SERVER)
Subject: FAtes & DT
Message-ID: <199411221502.KAA00979@pearl.cs.brandeis.edu>
I just read a post on the DT message board on AOL from the Metal Blade
person, and she said that it is possible that Fates will be going over
to Europe with DT...
Also, she said that when they return to the US, both will probably
doing a much larger tour, but not together...
Finally, for those of you on AOL, if you don';t read the DT and prog
metal folders, I think that it is time to start an attack on the
eMpTyV folders asking for DT and FW videos. Goto keyword MTV, choose
the thing aout tv shows (II forget exact name) in the message center,
then look for the folder on bands that should be played... start
follow-ups to current messages and posts new ones...
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+--------------------------------+---------------+---------------------+
| I never bared my emotions | Dream Theater | Michael Burstin |
| My passion always strong | Scarred | Brandeis University |
| I never lost my devotion | Awake +---------------------+
| but somewhere fate went wrong. | Get AWAKEned today, in stores now |
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
http://cs.brandeis.edu/USER/UGRAD/mikeb/home.html
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 16:48:07 +0100 (MEZ)
From: wagner@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (ytsejam)
Subject: promo-cd
Message-ID: <9411221548.AA08124@polydora.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de>
Hello out there,
finally I got my copy of the japanese version of 'Awake' and as I searched
the second-hand segment of the Record-Store I found a promotiomal CD called
'Wach Auf' (Awake), which features two tracks from Dream Theater (6:00 and Lie),
two tracks of Testament and two tracks of Sick Of It All (what a neightbourhood
for D.T.). No question that I bought it at once.
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---- Freedom belongs only to those without video screens for eyes and mouth ----
---------------------- Queensryche - Screaming In Digital ----------------------
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- Peace comes through thinking with our hearts and not with words. Until then -
----------------- we'll light another candle for this world. -------------------
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Till 'Tillroy' Wagner <wagner@hera.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de>
Elisabethenstr. 42f; D-63225 Langen; Germany
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 13:14:42 EST
From: "Paul Holloway" <pjhollow@wheel.watstar.uwaterloo.ca>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Message-ID: <9411221814.AA06250@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca>
>I feel that Charles Dominici was more a last minute throw in more than
>anything... they couldn't find the right singer, so they went with the
>next best thing... Mr. Dominici... and so, therefore he sings on WDADU.
>
>I would say that Chris Collins was better than Dominici... (for those of
>you who have the Majesty demos)...
>
Woah, how could you think that!? Chris Collins, although listenable (barely)
absolutely destroyed some of the melodies and feeling on the demos. Listen to
the part, "... where magic passion soars." off of the first song (I think).
Sure, cheesy lyrics, but he makes it 10 times worse with his
over-emphatic/dramatic tone. It's too bad I don't have the disc with me at the
moment, but I remember he sounded real bad on 'A Vision' for instance. His
screaming notes are in tune, but anything else is just awful. Why do you think
he's better than Dominici?
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=[pjhollow@wheel.watstar.uwaterloo.ca]=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
_ _ "Think for yourself and "Paralyzed by inhibitions, Paul Holloway
(/V\) feel the walls... and indecisions. What was U. of Waterloo
| Become sand beneath once a release, is now... Ont. Canada
your feet." -CD,GT/QR a prison." -JM/FW Engineering
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 11:29:18 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Hello it's my first contribution
Message-ID: <199411221829.LAA13276@bud.indirect.com>
> That's all for now. Iam collecting bootlegs (CD, audio, video,...) and I
> would like to get in touch with people that do too. Does anyone own a copy
> of the US bootlegs "A fortune pulled under", "Images and tour!" and
> "Runes"?
I think we found out that AFPU is actually a re-arranged version
of another existing bootleg, which one was it again...? Sparks '92? Not
positive about that.
Runes was one of the first ones submitted to the bootleg listing
back when I was handling it instead of Mike Burstin. I did see a few of
the CD's when I was at a record show last year, but I had my hands full
with Lost in the Sky and Dance of Eternity and could not buy one... now I
wish I did! It turned out to be another copy of HSH/LILI.
I have the CD Images & Tour (no !) and a copy of a recording from
a CD supposedly called Images And Tour!. They are both patchwork bootlegs
compiled from the better sounding shows out there. The one I have on CD
actually includes some of the Tokyo video live soundtrack on it. The
other one has bits of Lords of Sound and LITS in it... The I&T CD is
unimpressive, it looks even cheezier than the Dream Out Loud CD.
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 13:41:18 -0500
From: ACW1066@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Accesibility of Metroplis 2
Message-ID: <941122132640_4995129@aol.com>
SLAY wrote:
in respnnse to...
>>>"Yes, anyone not interested in music as music would probably go nuts at
the
polyrythms in Metropolis I. Any band that deviates from 4/4 time I can
respect, even if I might not like them. This was one of the reasons I got
into Rush at first - as a previous marching band member and drum major,
polyrythms are a fetish of mine. But to the average radio listener, it
soundslike the band is confused and is f%^&ing up trying to get back
together.
>>>>
First I gotta disggree and give more credit ro the average radio listener.
I've got lots of buddies who aren't musicians at all, butaare fascinated by
the complexity of Dream Theater's tunes. Also, I just wanna ask, why respect
a
band just because they deviate from 4/4? Do you really respect Bon Jovi? I
mean,I like 'em, but I have very little respect for them. Then again you may
have
just been generalizing. Anyway...just my 2 sense.
SLAY
Sicne I wrote what SLAY repsonded to, I feel it necessary to respond to the
response... (whatever I just said)
Thanks BTW for the thoguhtful response....
But I guess when you say I should give the average radio listener more
credit, you cite friends who appreciate DT's complexity though not musicians.
OK, what makes a musician? I would say some folks who are not "trained" as
musicians still have the ear for musicianship. These friends of yours have a
musician's ear, which is great. But many others hear polyrhtyhms and think
there are mistakes going on. That was my point. I wasn;t trying to set up
some kind of disdain for non-musicians who like simplistic music. (not that
simplicity is any less inherently musical)
As far as respecting a band that deviates from 4/4 you and I seem to have
totally opposite perspectives on this, but maybe we're really saying the same
thing. You say you like Bon Jovi but don't respect them as musicians. Well
it comes down to taste. No matter how much we analyze music for musicianship,
some things we just like because we like it - pure aesthetics that groove
with something in us. But I was saying that there are musicians whose sound
and style I may not like enough to listen to them alot, but I respect their
musicianship from an analytical perspective. My example - I am into the HORDE
scene, and I tried really hard to get into Phish. I just can't do it - BUT as
musicians, I really respect their abilities to fuse jazz and rock and
whatever else they do. And I consider them amazing musicians.
So do musicians need to be more artists or entertainers? I think both. I
enjoy lyrics from some groups on paper, but can't listen to the delivery.
The beauty of DT (and Rush and Yes and many others ) is that they combine
the best of both. So for musicians who love to hear good musicality expressed
while still rocking inside, Dream Theater is it. That's why all of us are
writing andfreading this net, right?
Did that clarify anything from my original post?
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 12:03:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: FAtes (tour info)
Message-ID: <9411222003.AA21273@kits.sfu.ca>
i just found out that Fates Warning will be playing in Vancouver at
a tiny club called the Town Pump on Nov. 28th. That's one day
after they open for DT in Seattle.
I don't know if they will rejoin after that or not.
Should be a cool show.
The Vancouver band False Witness is opening. FW & FW, what a lineup ;)
--
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/ |\ ' | ` /| \ "Love is the Dance of Eternity"
/ | \ / \ / | \ -Dream Theater-
( | \/ \/ | )
\ | / \ / \ | /
\ |/ , | , \| /
-------_______------- Tim Altman: altman@sfu.ca
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 10:46:40 PST
From: "tdb" <tdb@SMTPGwy.microsim.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: re: LaBrie vs. Dominici, AGAIN
Message-ID: <9410227855.AA785533332@SMTPGwy.microsim.com>
Hi,
[Mark D. Scudder - regarding JL and CD.]
I have to agree with Mark - it's largely a personal preference
issue. It's like discussing the tone of a musical instrument.
I have gone to a harp store with a friend, where we tried out
the same set of instruments and come away with diametricly
opposed opinions. ("This one has such a clear top end" - "It's
too harsh". "That one feels like it's strung with rubberbands"
- "It's easy to play". "That one has a good strong set of bass
wires" - "It sounds muddy." Still baffles me. But then, his
playing style *works* on the harps I don't like.)
Personally, I find WDADU a more compelling album than I&W.
(Though, with songs like Metropolis it's a tough call...)
OTOH, my friends prefer I&W and find it more accessible -
probably for exactly the same reasons I like WDADU.
Subject change: Anyone on the list going to the Dec 8 show?
-- Tim
(tbyrd@microsim.com)
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 13:02:23 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: garion@indirect.com, mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu, bvc8995@tamu.edu
Subject: New Revamped FAQ
Message-ID: <199411222002.NAA21902@bud.indirect.com>
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FAQL: Dream Theater (Current to 11/15/94)
Compiled by: Jason Hough (Ytsejam Originator) & Mike Bahr (Ordinary Person)
(jhough@qualcomm.com) and (garion@indirect.com)
Revised and Handled by Mike Bahr (address as above)
Extensively "beta-tested" by Michael Burstin, Randy Haskin, and Brian Cox
Thanks to Ken Higginson for the DT Ascii you see above.
Thanks to C-Man for the updated DT information "from the office"!
Welcome to the official, spiced with Vindaloo, Dream Theater FAQ, presented
by us, the Ytsejam Mailing List, and, thanks to a bit of great fortune and
kindness on their part, by Dream Theater themselves!
We're not perfect. But we're trying to be as accurate as we can. If you can
help us to that end with this FAQL, we appreciate it.
NOTICE! There are a few separate files now. The old one was just too hard
to manage all as one! Plus, a few issues of the band's connection to bootleg
material came up, etc. The new files, which are available via FTP, are:
dt????.faq = This FAQL, where ???? is the date i.e. 0430
discog.dt = Dream Theater discography
[official releases only]
bootlegs.dt = Dream Theater bootleg guide
lyrics.dt = All known lyrics from both the studio
and live/demo-only releases.
For all this, anon-FTP to ftp.netcom.com and look under /pub/drkhoe/dt/*.
Dream Theater Archives: site manager: drkhoe@netcom.com
ftp.netcom.com /pub/drkhoe/dt
WWW: "ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/drkhoe/www/dthome.html"
Michael Burstin (mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu) is now handling the bootlegs and
the lyrics listings.
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Dream Theater even has a support BBS!
"La Villa Strangiato" - 28.8k dialin speed - 602-732-1239
The system runs a dual standard 28.8k v.34 and v.fast, call either way.
Or to call for free, but alas, at 2400, do this:
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and feel free to log on! I will validate you as soon as possible. Leave me
a "F"eedback note so I will know you logged on new. Handles are in use on
the system, I am "Marabout".
I've shortened the credits section because of all the people who have been
a part of it, but I wish to slight nobody; you ALL have helped a hell of a
lot and a lot of kudos go to the people listed below.
I probably forgot whole boatloads of you in this short credits section.
Please forgive me; I'll try and get it right next time...
Many thanks to the following for their additions and corrections:
* Jens Johanssen (jens@panix.com)
* C-Man (buffalo@panix.com) - DT and King's X management
* Michael Burstin (mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu)
* Brian Cox (lerxst@tamu.edu)
* Ken Bibb (jester@arastar.com)
* Randall Haskin (strega@stein.u.washington.edu)
* Pete "Ender" Walsh (ender@uunet.uu.net)
* Dave (dld30@quts.ccc.amdahl.com)
* Todd Henson (thenson@mason1.gmu.edu)
* Bill Buckley (buckley@powdml.enet.dec.com)
* Jennifer Albert (airdance@aol.com)
* Lars "ORION" Karlsson ()
* Tim Lodge (space2@hardy.u.washington.edu)
* Aaron (asilver@umiami.edu)
* Jeremy A. Smith (js013b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu)
* Bret Linford (StmpyJCat@aol.com)
Plus Jason Hartman, Tony Zimmerman, and Kypler's Sparkling Alcoholic Malt!
Abbreviations you should know:
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DT - Dream Theater... NOT DREAM THEATRE! Petrucci is very specific about it.
WDADU - When Dream And Day Unite
IAW - Images And Words
LATM - Live At The Marquee
LIT - Live in Tokyo (video)
ACOS - A Change of Seasons
YML - Ytsejam mailing list
PMU - Pull Me Under
TTT - Take The Time
LTL - Learning To Live
LSOAD - Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
CIAW - Caught In A Web
AMBI - A Mind Beside Itself
LiTS - Lost In the Sky (bootleg)
DoE - Dance of Eternity (bootleg)
CU - Consciously Unreal (bootleg)
DoL - Dream Out Loud (bootleg)
LiLI - Live In Long Island (bootleg)
CONTENTS
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0. New Questions/Frequently Changing Recent Information
1. A Brief History of Dream Theater
2. Questions about the members of Dream Theater
3. Questions about DT performances/appearances/miscellany
4. Questions about the songs themselves
New Stuff
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0.1 Is Kevin Moore really out of Dream Theater?
Yes. He left over musical differences, and the split was amicable,
so there is no bad blood brewing. Good luck to Kevin in his future efforts.
Derek Sheranian (Kiss, Alice Cooper) is taking Kevin's place on the keys.
This might or might not change after the Awake tour.
0.2 What can you tell me about the Awake tour?
* They have already played much of the USA and will wrap up this leg of the
tour on December 9 in Los Angeles.
* They will play Japan and Europe in the winter and spring of 1995. They
will be back to the US afterward for a full tour.
* Members of the Ytsejam list have had excellent luck meeting the band
after the shows and the band is very much into this tour and into their
own zone. They have been freely autographing and allowing pics to be
taken, pretty cool of them. Some Ytsejammers were given backstage passes
as a gift through the net and it's been quite an experience. When DT is
huge and has 15 studio albums under their belt, such as the likes of Rush,
we humble netters can say we met them on their third tour. Not bad!
* Talk to Portnoy, not Petrucci, about bootlegs. Talk to Petrucci, not
Portnoy, about Kevin's departure. Other than that, topics are fair game.
1. A Brief History of Dream Theater
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Dream Theater first came to be in September 1985 when Berklee
friends John Petrucci, John Myung, and Mike Portnoy got together and
decided there was some music to be played. They drafted in old school
friend Kevin Moore for the keys, and "Majesty" came to exist.
Their first efforts at getting material down on tape were called
the Majesty Demos. Ineffective singer Chris Collins did the vocals on
eight very progressive-sounding tracks. In March 1986 the Majesty demos
were finished. 1000 copies sold within six months. Bootleg CDs of the
Majesty demos continue to sell even today.
That November, Chris left the band, as he was a mismatch all
along. A year went by without a singer and without a record deal, and more
demos were cut. Instrumental versions of the songs we now know as Afterlife,
Ytse Jam, and The Killing Hand were among them.
In November of 1987 vocalist Charlie Dominici joined the band and a
record was finally cut on the Mechanic label. This is when the issue of the
name nearly stopped Dream Theater before they started. A Las Vegas band
called Majesty forced a name change, and DT considered several different
possibilities. Glasser, Mi and Magus, and the like were tossed about and
rejected. Mike Portnoy's father Howard suggested they use the name of a
California cinema complex, and the name Dream Theater was chosen.
DT quickly found out that Mechanic could not effectively promote
their record or finance the tour they needed in order to promote it on their
own, so they left the label. Charlie was fired because he didn't have DT's
progressive plans on his agenda, and he had always been weak in a live
setting. Time went by... a LOT of time.
Finally, in late 1991, Kevin James LaBrie of Winter Rose beat out
fellow throats John Arch, Steve Stone, Chris Cintron, and John Hendricks for
the vocalist spot. His audition was fantastic, and an apt indicator of the
future potential of DT, as he sang his way through an acoustic To Live
Forever, and demo tapes of Learning to Live and Take The Time.
EastWest records, then ATCO Atlantic, signed DT and they cut the
record Images And Words. Radio picked up on the opening track, Pull Me Under,
and IAW slowly started accumulating sales. DT began to field a fan base that
was obsessive and musically inclined, a fan base that had been disappointed
by late-80's and early-90's glam and grunge and had held onto their Rush,
Yes, and Floyd records, hoping for the day when another such band would come
about. They cut a video for Pull Me Under and it actually got rotation on
MTV... a small miracle in itself. Two more videos were cut, Another Day and
Take The Time, and the former got marginal airplay.
By halfway through the Music In Progress Tour '93, IAW had gone gold
and several cuts from it were gaining heavy airplay, as well as kindling a
deep-seeded fan interest in unreleased recordings and bootlegs. Import
shipments of When Dream And Day Unite sold quickly. Dream Theater cut a live
EP in April 1993 called Live at the Marquee. Later that year, a live video
called Live in Tokyo was released. Still, the fans of DT needed more. Through
all of the spring and summer of 1994, there was a veritable explosion of
available bootlegs and rarities.
DT took their own time, so to speak, in writing and recording Awake,
their third studio album. By June it was finished and would begin production,
and was set for an October 4 release date. It was then that the sky itself
fell on Dream Theater.
Kevin Moore decided to leave the band to pursue his own musical
interests. On August 8th, the split was made final. Several possible
replacements were tossed about, and none has yet been finalized. Jordan
Rudess played a gig with them but then left to go back to his own band.
Derek Sheranian, formerly of Kiss and Alice Cooper, is currently playing
for the band on the Awake tour. Things seem to be working out fairly well.
Whether it will be final or not is as yet unknown.
DT cut a video for Lie, and it was given the same attention on MTV
that all non-rap acts get, but Awake still sold heavily. The tour has moved
into high gear, and 1995 is right around the corner.
2. Questions about the members of DT
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2.1 Who are the current members of Dream Theater?
They are Kevin James LaBrie (vocals), John Petrucci (guitar),
Michael Portnoy (drums), and John Myung (bass).
2.2 Why did Charlie Dominici leave DT?
According to Mike Portnoy and John Petrucci, he was released
because of several things, but most importantly because he didn't fit in
with the band in a few important ways. He was far older than the rest of
them, had a different idea of what DT should be, and lacked ability as a
frontman when performing live. There were apparently a few personality
conflicts at work. The band and Dominici are not currently in contact with
each other.
2.3 What was James LaBrie doing before he joined the band?
Kevin James LaBrie (they dropped the Kevin because they would have
otherwise confused him with Kevin Moore, and two Johns are already hard
enough to deal with, says Petrucci) sang for a Canadian glam band called
Winter Rose. He was selected from among 20 auditions and over 200 tapes
by DT during the making of IAW. This sentence is censored. ;)
2.4 Who inspired the band members the most?
In an interview, Mike Portnoy cited Neil Peart of Rush as his
greatest influence and favourite drummer. His other influences include
Terry Bozzio and Vinnie Calauata, but Portnoy says Peart is his drum "God".
And since I've been mailed no less than 4 different "correct" spellings of
Vinnie's last name, don't mail me with a correction please!
Petrucci has two groups of influences, he said in an interview.
The Steves and the Als. The Steves are Steve Morse, Steve Howe, Steve Vai,
and Stevie Ray Vaughan. The Als are Alex Lifeson, Al Dimeola, and Alan
Holdsworth.
John Myung's bass idols are Steve Harris and Geddy Lee.
As a band, they are influenced most (according to Portnoy) by
Rush, Queensryche, Yes, Marillion, Genesis, and Kansas. Those groups make
a few appearances here in this FAQ forasmuch as they relate to DT.
Petrucci individually likes Pantera. The whole band got on very
well with the Galactic Cowboys. Much like their listeners, they have very
broad and varied tastes. Portnoy is a regular concertgoer, and has been
met at Rush and King's X concerts by people on the Ytsejam list.
2.5 Andrea Held Leone and Ralph R. Dominici Sr. are mentioned in the liner
notes to WDADU as the dedicants. What relation to the band are they?
Andrea is Portnoy's sister. Ralph is Charlie's father.
2.6 Marillion is thanked in the liners in IAW, whats the relation?
Dream Theater opened for Marillion in New York (anyone have the
exact date?). Mike Portnoy also said, "We're all really big fans. I
really dig 'Misplaced Childhood'." Whether Dream Theater and Phish are
familiar with each other is not certain.
2.7 What musical instrument sponsorships does DT have?
Mike Portnoy--Mapex Drums, Sabian Cymbals, Drum Workshop Pedals &
Hi-hats, Latin Percussion, Remo Heads and Hot Sticks. Mike used to play Tama
but changed his kit between IAW and Awake.
John Petrucci--Ibanez guitars, Mesa Boogie Amps, Dimarzio Pick-ups,
Dunlop Picks, Wah Pedals.
John Myung--Tung Bases, Mesa Boogie Amps, D'Addario Strings
2.8 Is there a Dream Theater fan club?
Yes. Send S.A.S.E or I.R.C to:
Dream Theater International Fan Club
Midtown Station
PO Box 1188
New York, NY 10018
2.9 Who thought up the name for the band?
Mike Portnoy's father Howard thought they should name it after the
moviehouse near where they grew up. It was called The Dream Theater.
Initially, they recorded a demo by that name, then named the band after it.
2.10 Where did DT go to school?
The Johns and Portnoy went to the Berklee (sic) school of
music in Boston, MA, not Berkeley as has been erroneously mentioned on
rec.music.progressive. Berklee is a music-dedicated school that has
produced the likes of Steve Vai and Chris DeGarmo. Kevin Moore went to
SUNY-Fredonia, as has been confirmed. Anyone know if Labrie did college?
For that matter, how about Johanssen?
2.11 Now that Kevin Moore left, and the whole reason LaBrie used "James"
was to sidestep the confusion, will he go back to "Kevin LaBrie"?
Good question. :)
3. Questions about DT performances/appearances/miscellany
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3.1 What are the Majesty demos?
Before they were Dream Theater, they were Majesty. However, there
was already a band called Majesty, so they could not release the demos.
They wound up on bootlegs and evaluation tapes. Between singers, Dream
Theater did still more demos. These are referred to as the Dream Theater
Demos due to the timeframe. Some of the songs DT has demoed include:
Another Won Your Majesty A Vision
Two Far Vital Star March of the Tyrant
A Late Summer Rain Schizophrenia Afterlife
The Death of Spark Resurrection of Ernie Cry for Freedom
Gates of Babylon Ytsejam The Killing Hand
Mission: Impossible Golden Slumbers * O Holy Night
Don't Look Past Me To Live Forever Metropolis
A Change of Season Grab That Feel $ Creep With Tonality %
Wanted Dead or Alive (sort of a joke) Caught In a Web
* Also called The Golden Weight
$ Later renamed Take The Time
% Later renamed Learning to Live
3.2 What does the "symbol" DT uses mean?
The "symbol" can be seen on the IAW disc, on the IAW cover on top
of the bed, on the WDADU cover, etc. It is the letter "M" of "MAJESTY" in
a stylized font, says Portnoy. It was once used by Mary Queen of Scots.
3.3 What does the burning heart symbolize?
According to Portnoy, it was original keyboardist Kevin Moore's idea
and essentially a copy of the Sacred Heart of Jesus. The barbed wire
represented obstacles and difficulties, the heart endurance and strength,
and the fire their energy and passion.
3.4 Who has toured with Dream Theater?
Psychotic Waltz, the Galactic Cowboys, Saigon Kick, Damn The
Machine, Meanstreak (with guitarist Rena Sands, Petrucci's wife), I Mother
Earth, Fates Warning, Pushmonkey, and others among a slew of local acts the
band likes to use for openers.
3.5 What producers has Dream Theater worked with?
Terry Date produced WDADU. Terry Brown (Broon), the producer who
took Rush through their first eleven albums, produced the promotional
discs from WDADU. David Prater produced IAW. Prater was the
ex-drummer/producer of Santana. Doug Oeberkircher produced and mixed Live At
The Marquee. Duane Barron and John Purdell produced Awake.
3.6 What songs has Dream Theater made videos for?
Pull Me Under
Take The Time
Another Day
Lie
Caught In a Web
Another Day did not make MTV's playlist, even though DT felt it had
the most MTV potential. Pull Me Under was shot live and has received the
most airplay. Take The Time was shot as a video production, however the song
had to be shortened a lot and many unexpected jumps in the song throw the
video off pace. Lie got regular rotation. Caught In a Web is new.
3.7 What songs has Dream Theater played live?
A better question would probably be which ones have they NOT
played live, since they play just about all of them. Here are the songs
that either don't get played live, or have never been recorded live at
any known show.
A Vision
Too Far
Scarred
Space Dye Vest
Here are a few songs that have ONLY been performed live, and never
recorded in any studio or demo (yet):
Bombay Vindaloo
Moon Bubbles
Barfbag
That "mystery jam" from Milano
3.8 Who plays the saxophone on "Another Day"?
Jay Beckenstein of Spiro Gyra, who owned the studio where IAW was put to
tape (Bear Trax).
3.9 Will DT ever release production versions of the old Majesty demos?
In some cases, they did just that (see the discog). Mike
Portnoy was asked about this, and said that while they might be fun to
play live, it really wouldn't get the band anywhere to release new
recordings of them. Since DT is concerned with moving forward, he said, it
will likely not happen any more than it already has. Half the first album
was production from the demos, but the remaining demos are "just too old."
They did play an instrumental "March of the Tyrant" at Palasesto in Milano,
Italy in November 1993.
4. Questions about the songs themselves
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4.1 Who sings on the satiric "Wanted Dead or Alive" demo?
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