YTSEJAM digest 596

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Date: Wed Nov 23 1994 - 05:39:21 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 596

    Today's Topics:

      1)
     by
      2) Re: Accesibility of Metropolis
     by Phil Felicia <FELICI53@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>
      3) promo cds
     by "Steve M. Bauer" <smb9733@sjfc.edu>
      4) Next Singles
     by James=Utz%Mech%PCPD=Hou@bangate.compaq.com
      5) WDAJU
     by Matt Leger <mml@kepler.unh.edu>
      6) Re: Birthdates and more ...
     by whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White)
      7) CIAW video???
     by "Douglas Slauson" <DRSLAUS@msae.cae.wisc.edu>
      8) Re: CIAW video???
     by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
      9) Re: Next Singles
     by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
     10) Re: WDAJU
     by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
     11)
     by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
     12) Re: New Revamped FAQ
     by kad@iris122.biosym.com
     13) New Revamped FAQ correction
     by BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
     14) Awake on vinyl
     by "Cackowski, David" <dcackow%eastlrc@ibm4381.onet.edu>

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    /Hee, that Wanted: Dead Or Alive thing is John Petrucci solo /w/a drum
    machine & Kevin Moore's roommate, Rich (who also /used to be John P.'s
    Mesa-Boogie rep), on lead vocals...or /whatever you want to call that
    screeching!haha ;) John /recorded it originally for one of his guitar pupils
    to practice /to and Rich added the vocals later without John's knowledge!
    /Pretty funny stuff!

    4.2 What is "A Fortune In Lies" about?

            According to Mike, it was about a friend of theirs who was busted
    for stealing, and the experience he gleaned from it.
     
    4.3 Where is the sampled voice in "A Fortune In Lies" from?

            Mike Portnoy recorded it off a television documentary about the
    prison system.

    4.4 What does "The Ytse' Jam" mean?
     
             YTSEJAM is MAJESTY written backwards, and it probably refers to
    their original band name in that ambiguous way instrumentals refer to things.
     
    4.5 What is "The Killing Hand" about?
     
             John does not comment on it often, but Mike Portnoy opened up in
    an interview about why it was written and what he "thinks" it's about. In
    the interview Portnoy is very careful to remind the reader that he Could
    be all wrong, but that it's not likely. Petrucci wrote it as a sort of
    "Twilight Zone" story about war, in which he witnesses all these
    atrocities, and sees the names of the dead on a wall, and then realizes
    it's been him this whole time causing all the atrocities... then he sees
    his name on the wall, very Rod Serling-type of stuff.
     
    4.6 Is "Afterlife" a Christian song? Is "Eve"?
     
             While the band admits Afterlife has Christian overtones, it is not a
    religious tune in the same spirit as the music of King's X or Parallax.
    Eve, the piano/guitar intro sequence used live for both Pull Me Under and
    Learning To Live at different times, includes a lot of voice samples
    including "Guide us on to our Lord Jesus, guide us home." Kevin Moore and John
    Myung are the more religious members of the band (compared to the secular
    Portnoy) and Moore wrote it, so while it is certainly not a Stryper-style
    preach jam, it can be classified as a Christian song. Mike indicated in an
    interview that Kevin Moore was aiming at that, but that (like in the
    Killing Hand case) he didn't write it himself so he couldn't guarantee the
    meaning was exactly right.
     
    4.7 What is "Pull Me Under" about?
     
             The current explanation goes that it was inspired by Shakespeare's
    "Hamlet". Prince Hamlet swore vengeance on King Claudius for murdering his
    father, the former King, and then marrying his mother, still Queen.
    Hamlet's famous Soliloquy was the passage in which the conflict in
    Hamlet's mind is detailed, and the second verse of "Pull Me Under"
    coincides pretty thoroughly with it. The very end of the song James can be
    heard singing this line from Hamlet:
            "Oh that this too, too solid flesh would melt."

            Furthermore, after seeing the video, in an interview, Portnoy said
    "Who the hell was that wolfman guy in the video anyway? We had written it
    based on something else entirely." Portnoy noted that while Moore did not
    write PMU about Hamlet specifically, he DID write PMU about what Hamlet
    was ABOUT. Same themes, ideas, etc.

            Here's the no-brainer explanation:

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                           a comparison by Pete "Ender" Walsh
                                                               
    PULL ME UNDER
    Images: Dream Theater
    Words: Moore

    Lost in the sky
    Clouds roll by and I roll with them

            KING CLAUDIUS [to Hamlet] How is it that the clouds still hang on you?

    Arrows fly
    Seas increase and then fall again

            HAMLET To be, or not to be: that is the question:
                    Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
                    The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
                    Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
                    And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
                    No more; and by a sleep to say we end
                    The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
                    That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
                    Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
                    To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
                    For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
                    [and so on...]

    This world is spinning around me
    This world is spinning without me
    Every day sends future to past
    Every breath leaves one less to my last

    Watch the sparrow falling
    Gives new meaning to it all
    If not today nor yet tomorrow then some other day

            HAMLET Not a whit, we defy augury: there's a special
                    providence in the fall of a sparrow. If it be now,
                    'tis not to come; if it be not to come, it will be
                    now; if it be not now, yet it will come: the
                    readiness is all: since no man has aught of what he
                    leaves, what is't to leave betimes?

    I'll take seven lives for one

            [Hamlet is responsible, in some way, for seven deaths in the play.]

    And then my only father's son
    As sure as I did ever love him
    I am not afraid

            Ghost I am thy father's spirit,
                    Doom'd for a certain term to walk the night,
                    And for the day confined to fast in fires,
                    Till the foul crimes done in my days of nature
                    Are burnt and purged away. But that I am forbid
                    To tell the secrets of my prison-house,
                    I could a tale unfold whose lightest word
                    Would harrow up thy soul, freeze thy young blood,
                    Make thy two eyes, like stars, start from their spheres,
                    Thy knotted and combined locks to part
                    And each particular hair to stand on end,
                    Like quills upon the fretful porpentine:
                    But this eternal blazon must not be
                    To ears of flesh and blood. List, list, O, list!
                    If thou didst ever thy dear father love--

            HAMLET O God!

            Ghost Revenge his foul and most unnatural murder.

            HAMLET Murder!

            Ghost Murder most foul, as in the best it is;
                    But this most foul, strange and unnatural.

            HAMLET Haste me to know't, that I, with wings as swift
                    As meditation or the thoughts of love,
                    May sweep to my revenge.

                            - AND -

            HAMLET Ay, so, God be wi' ye;

                    [Exeunt ROSENCRANTZ and GUILDENSTERN]

                            Now I am alone.
                                    [...etc, etc...]
                    O, vengeance!
                    Why, what an ass am I! This is most brave,
                    That I, the son of a dear father murder'd,
                                    [...etc, etc...]
                    

    This world is spinning around me
    The whole world keeps spinning around me
    All life is future to past
    Every breath leaves me one less to my last

    Pull me under Pull me under
    Pull me under I'm not afraid
    All that I feel in honor and spite
    All I can do is set it right

            HAMLET Rest, rest, perturbed spirit!

                    [They swear]

                                    So, gentlemen,
                    With all my love I do commend me to you:
                    And what so poor a man as Hamlet is
                    May do, to express his love and friending to you,
                    God willing, shall not lack. Let us go in together;
                    And still your fingers on your lips, I pray.
                    The time is out of joint: O cursed spite,
                    That ever I was born to set it right!

                                    - AND -

            HAMLET [...]
                    When honour's at the stake. How stand I then,
                    That have a father kill'd, a mother stain'd,
                    Excitements of my reason and my blood,
                    And let all sleep? while, to my shame, I see
                    The imminent death of twenty thousand men,
                    That, for a fantasy and trick of fame,
                    Go to their graves like beds, fight for a plot
                    Whereon the numbers cannot try the cause,
                    Which is not tomb enough and continent
                    To hide the slain? O, from this time forth,
                    My thoughts be bloody, or be nothing worth!

    Dust fills my eyes
    Clouds roll by and I roll with them
    Centuries cry
    Orders fly and I fall again

    This world is spinning inside me
    The whole world is spinning inside of me
    Every day sends future to past
    Every step brings me closer to my last

    Pull me under Pull me under
    Pull me under I'm not afraid
    Living my life too much in in the sun
    Only until your will is done

            HAMLET Not so, my lord; I am too much i' the sun.
                            [in response to Claudius's comment on clouds, above.]

    Oh that this too
    Too solid flesh
    Would melt

            [Direct quote]

            HAMLET O, that this too too solid flesh would melt
            Thaw and resolve itself into a dew!

    4.8 What is "Another Day" about?

            There are two schools of thought on the subject.

            Suicide is the most obvious meaning. Pretty much every verse
    supports the theme of a person trying to talk someone out of killing
    themself. "so die another day... better to save the mystery"

            Another equally valid point of view is that of mental illness,
    and trying to cope with it as the sufferer and/or family. "they took
    pictures of our dreams... etc"

            People on Ytsejam have dug up gobs of evidence to support both
    meanings, so pick and choose whichever one you feel is right, or find your
    own. After all, this is music, not math. :)

    4.9 What is Take The Time about?

            The band wrote this as a joint effort just before LaBrie joined
    them, so the meanings are many and esoteric. However, in an interview,
    Portnoy has said it is just what it implies. You'll find all you need in
    your mind if you take the time.

    4.10 What is being said in Italian in "Take the Time" and where is it from?

            It's Italian for "Now that I'm blind, I can see much clearer." It
    was from the film "Cinema Paradiso" as the following:
            "Adesso che ho
             perso la vista,
             ci vedo meglio
             e di piu"
            It's Not a coincidence that LaBrie sings "I can see much clearer
    now I'm blind" right before the sample.

    4.11 What was the original title of "Surrounded"?

            Promotional cassettes for Images And Words had Surrounded labeled
    as "The Longest Night" on the sleeve.
     
    4.12 What is "Surrounded" about?
     
             During the IAW tour they dedicated the song to Arthur Ashe, the
    tennis player who died of AIDS. However, the song seems more about
    enlightenment (in several forms) than death. The fact that Ashe was the
    first African-American tennis player to succeed in the sport supports this
    hypothesis.
     
    4.13 What story is "Metropolis part I: The Miracle and the Sleeper" based on?
             
             It is based on the story of two twins from the Iliad (? or is it
    the Odyssey?) who are telepathically linked. It has no relation to the
    movie "Metropolis". Petrucci wrote it as a sort of fantasy epic, inspired
    by the likes of, you guessed it, Yes and Rush. The story itself is
    original (the twins are named Miracle and Sleeper and do not appear in
    literature) but the story type was Homeric.
     
    4.14 What is "Wait For Sleep" about? Who is the girl/woman in "Wait For Sleep"?
     
             Kevin Moore has said she was a friend of his who had a spiritual
    void and a hard time filling it, reaching for something to believe in. It
    dealt with her fears about belief and her grief over a loved one's death.
    His explanation is longer, but that about says it.

    4.15 What is "Learning to Live" about?
     
             This has been the bigger topic of discussion on the YML because
    Myung has commented briefly on it and Portnoy has, while not wanting to
    confirm it, indicated that the premise is correct in an interview.
    Learning to Live was inspired by the AIDS epidemic. Patricularly, the
    "From a common fear ... reach for life" passage, but the rest fits very
    snugly with the AIDS theme.
     
    4.16 What is a "Vindaloo"?
     
            A Bombay Vindaloo is a hot spicy herb/pepper served on Indian
    food, usually chicken. It is also taken after drinks. My guess is DT got
    blasted in Asia or Europe and got to try this most interesting spice. :)

    4.17 What is unique about the song "A Change of Seasons"?

            Several things.

            First of all, it's the first lyric work Mike Portnoy did.
    (of course, it is not the only vocal work Mike has done... Mike had the
    dubious priviledge of singing the end of "Surrounded" after James walked
    off the stage at one of the England shows)

            Second of all, it's the longest DT song at 20:42. It barely misses
    matching the longest Rush song on CD (2112, which is 20:47) and the
    longest Rush song on LP (2112, which was 21:12). This is a distinction
    because it's very rare to find bands comfortable with lengthy formats.

            Third of all, it's the only song that had LaBrie singing in it
    that has ONLY been recorded live, as in, not for any album. The other four
    songs that hold the live distinction are instrumentals. The band wants to
    record it very much. As Portnoy said, "We'd like to get that one off our
    chests. It's pretty meaningful to us."

    4.18 Has anybody noticed the re-usable riff phenomenon?

            Yes. Pull Me Under and Take The Time share a melody, which is not
    quite a riff but is identical if juxtapositioned on a corresponding
    major/minor scale, and Wait For Sleep and Learning to Live also share a
    main riff. Thematically, none of the songs interconnect. Mike Portnoy has
    said that the music is written out before the lyrics are written and set to
    melody. It is possible (any interviews mention this?) that they were
    intended to be counterparts and that the relation was either scrapped or
    made more subtle. The PMU-TTT connection is not as direct as the WFS-LTL
    connection. The melody from PMU's "This World is spinning around me, this
    world is spinning without me" in a minor scale sung by LaBrie is
    reproduced at 4:18 of the TTT instrumental section in a major scale
    played by Petrucci. Thus, the remaining question is whether or not 16-note
    melodies are reproduced completely in coincidence on the same album by the
    same band. Also, all throughout Awake, there is a lot of intentional riff
    sharing. Without referring to the obvious Erotomania, which is MADE UP OF
    riffs from other songs, the Space Dye Vest piano melody was added to The
    Mirror, LSOAD, and Scarred.

    4.19 Has anybody noticed the Another Song phenomenon?

            Yes. DT has a knack, it would seem, for Another Song titles.
    Another Won (from the Majesty demos), Another Day (from Images And Words)
    and Another Hand (prologue to The Killing Hand live and on LATM) are the
    factors of this phenomenon. The album "Awake" seems to have escaped this
    trap of nomenclature.

    4.20 Who wrote "(To Live) Forever"?

            John Petrucci.

    4.21 Did the demos "Death of Spark" and "Cry For Freedom" ever go anywhere?

            Yes. They became "The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun" and part of
    several instrumental improvisations. (listen to Bombay Vindaloo, Moon
    Bubbles, and Barfbag... it's in there.)

    4.22 What is "Caught In A Web" about?

            Anyone? Anyone? ....Bueller?

    4.23 What is "Lie" about?

            According to Moore, it's connected to the theme of The Mirror.
    Betrayal and disillusionment are the main ideas.

    4.24 What is "Space Dye Vest" about? How does Kevin come up with this stuff?

            From Michael Burstin (mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu):

    You might want to add to the FAQ at some point where the long soundbite in
    the middle of SDV comes from. I identified it quite awhile ago, actually,
    since it's from one of my favorite movies. :) It goes "...he's the sort who
    can't know anyone intimately, least of all a woman. He doesn't know what a
    woman is. He wants you for a possession, something to look at like a
    painting or an ivory box. Something to own and to display. He doesn't want
    you to be real, or to think, or to live. He doesn't love you. But I love
    you. I want you to have your own thoughts and ideas and feelings, even when
    I hold you in my arms...it's our last chance." It's from the film _A Room
    With A View_ and it's spoken by actor Julian Sands' character, George
    Emerson. In the scene in which these words are spoken, he's trying to
    convince the woman he loves, Lucy Honeychurch (played by Helena Bonham
    Carter), who is engaged to be married to someone else, that she's making a
    horrible mistake and that she truly belongs with him instead. It's a very
    powerful, moving scene in the film and ever since I saw it, I couldn't forget
    his passionate speech. Then Kevin goes and uses it in a song! Weird. :)
     Another interesting connection between SDV and _A Room With A View_ is that
    Kevin based most of the song around a chord progression that's actually
    *from* the movie! I didn't notice this until a few days ago when a friend of
    mine rented the movie and invited me over to watch it. Then I noticed some
    background music that sounded *awfully* familiar. ;) It only appears in the
    movie a couple of times in very short sections, but it's *definitely* the
    same chord progression that Kevin used in SDV. Interesting, isn't it? That
    movie must have made quite an impression on him. :)

    3.25 Anyone notice that Erotomania contains snippets of all the songs on the
    first half of Awake?

            Yes.

    3.26 Who sings backup vocals on The Silent Man?

            John Petrucci.

    END OF FAQ

    Again, for any corrections, information, or if you just need a snide comment
    to liven up your day, mail me at garion@indirect.com and be prepared to
    explain why you woke me up. :)
    -=-

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    Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 16:03:39 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Phil Felicia <FELICI53@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: Accesibility of Metropolis
    Message-ID: <01HJSARCHF0I9GVWMA@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>

    >>> Yes, anyone not interested in music as music would probably go
    >>> nuts at the polyrythms in Metropolis I. Any band that deviates from
    >>> 4/4 time I can respect, even if I might not like them. This was one of
    >>> the reasons I got into Rush at first - as a previous marching band
    >>> member and drum major, polyrythms are a fetish of mine. But to the
    >>> average radio listener, it soundslike the band is confused and is
    >>> f%^&ing up trying to get back together.
    >>
    >> First I gotta disggree and give more credit ro the average radio
    >> listener. I've got lots of buddies who aren't musicians at all,
    >> butaare fascinated by the complexity of Dream Theater's tunes. Also, I
    >
    >I would definatly agree there.... using myself as the perfect
    >example... I don't play any instrument, yet I completly and totally
    >appreciate the complexity of DT's songs... (although this probably at
    >least partially comes from the fact that over half of my friends at
    >home are musicians...)
    >
    I think the *Average Radio Listener* refered to in the first post is the same
    kind of person who:

            1 watches eMpTyV five hours a day,
            2 enjoys shows like the Real World
            3 has an attention span of four minutes
            4 thinks that bands like Rush and DT cant hold a beat(non-4/4 time)

    I think it is for these reason that they cannot enjoy/respect the talent of
    bands like Rush and DT. (if they can only focus their attention for four
    minutes, that rules out almost all Rush and DT songs)

    TRUST ME!!! THESE PEOPLE ACTUALLY EXIST!! And there are alot of them! I
    usually end up having them as my roomates :(

    Phil,

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    Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 14:44:38 -0500 (EST)
    From: "Steve M. Bauer" <smb9733@sjfc.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: promo cds
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.88.9411221458.A28653-0100000@sjfc.edu>

    I am wondering how I can obtain the Instumental bootleg, the "Lie" promo cd
    and the "Caught In A Web" promo cd. I have lots to trade including 2
    Fates Warning guitar picks (one of Jim's and one of Frank's)and an
    original Majest demo tape from 1986 still in its plastic wrapper. Please
    post if interested. Thank You!

                 Dream Theater Rules!!!!

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    Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 17:07:51 CST
    From: James=Utz%Mech%PCPD=Hou@bangate.compaq.com
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Next Singles
    Message-ID: <m0rA4Mn-000uH2C@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com>

    I spoke with James LaBrie after the Houston show, and I asked him what the
    next singles would be. He said "Silent Man" might be a single in Europe.
    The next single in the US, following "Caught In A Web", might be "Lifting
    Shadows Off A Dream".

    James
    jutz@bangate.compaq.com

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    Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 18:52:13 -0500 (EST)
    From: Matt Leger <mml@kepler.unh.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: WDAJU
    Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91a.941122184805.535A-100000@kepler.unh.edu>

    Hey kids,

      I was just thinking. (That's something new). It seems that the When
    Dream And James Unite disk thing has been blown out of the water because
    of legalities. This is probably going to sound really stupid but here goes:
    I know bootlegs are "illegal" but CD versions are still made.... why
    can't we do the same??? Obviously the people who make the bootlegs don't
    get arrested that often or at all. The same goes for the distributors,
    are they constantly running from the law because they sell this "illegal"
    merchandise???

    I guess I still am hopeful about this project....

    Later,
    Matt

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    Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 19:16:30 EST
    From: whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: Birthdates and more ...
    Message-ID: <9411230016.AA13064@mary.cs.fredonia.edu>

      I have a copy of the audition tapes I could send ya if
    you want. Let me know if you already have offers :)
             Chris

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    Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 18:37:49 CST
    From: "Douglas Slauson" <DRSLAUS@msae.cae.wisc.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: CIAW video???
    Message-ID: <6890E00674@msae.cae.wisc.edu>

        Has anyone seen the CIAW video, or hasn't it been released yet?
    I'll be watching HBB this weekend, so maybe it'll turn up.

        Also, does anyone know when the video for "Monument" (FW) might
    show up, if ever?

        Douglas
    ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
     Tonight you sleep in Hell...
     There can be only one!
    oooooooooooo douglass@cae.wisc.edu oooooooooooo

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    Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 23:18:49 -0700 (MST)
    From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: CIAW video???
    Message-ID: <199411230618.XAA24776@bud.indirect.com>

    > Has anyone seen the CIAW video, or hasn't it been released yet?
    > I'll be watching HBB this weekend, so maybe it'll turn up.

            It's supposed to hit this weekend or the next.

    Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com

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    Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 22:24:16 PST
    From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: Next Singles
    Message-ID: <9411230624.AA06467@teng6.fmt>

    > From: James=Utz%Mech%PCPD=Hou@bangate.compaq.com
    >
    >
    > I spoke with James LaBrie after the Houston show, and I asked him what the
    > next singles would be. He said "Silent Man" might be a single in Europe.
    > The next single in the US, following "Caught In A Web", might be "Lifting
    > Shadows Off A Dream".
    >
    > James
    > jutz@bangate.compaq.com
    >
     
    "Well that's great, but let's not start sucking each other's
    dicks just yet..." (paraphrase of Mr. Wolf in Pulp Fiction).
    IOW, they could release their entire music catalogue as
    "singles", but we'd never hear any of it because AOR stations
    just aren't playing DT. I've heard PMU twice as much as I've
    heard Lie since the latter was released. I can't believe
    there are people actually calling up the station saying "that
    song sucks! don't play it anymore!" so... (I *did* hear
    the LATM version of PMU once).

    What's the deal? I hear a lot of non-trendy crappy songs
    that no one listens to that get played more than DT. What
    factors could be causing this phenomenon? Any people in
    radio care to offer special insight? Is something else
    going on? Should I post this to alt.conspiracy..?

    Zach?

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    Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 02:32:57 PST
    From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: WDAJU
    Message-ID: <199411231032.CAA01278@netcom8.netcom.com>

    >
    >Hey kids,
    >
    > I was just thinking. (That's something new). It seems that the When
    >Dream And James Unite disk thing has been blown out of the water because
    >of legalities. This is probably going to sound really stupid but here goes:
    >I know bootlegs are "illegal" but CD versions are still made.... why
    >can't we do the same??? Obviously the people who make the bootlegs don't
    >get arrested that often or at all. The same goes for the distributors,
    >are they constantly running from the law because they sell this "illegal"
    >merchandise???
    >
    >I guess I still am hopeful about this project....
    >
    >Later,
    >Matt
    >

    Cause if you noticed, these bootlegs are made in Italy and various other
    European countries which have different copyright laws then we do... and
    sometimes what we consider bootleg here is not even bootleg in Europe...
    perfectly legal... so if you wanna run down to Italy and cut us a few
    CD's... no prob!

    -The Doc

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    Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 02:34:05 PST From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Message-ID: <199411231034.CAA01335@netcom8.netcom.com>

    Chris Collins was rough around the edges... but he had gusto... Dominici was short of breath...

    -The Doc

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    Date: Wed, 23 Nov 94 10:21:57 -0800 From: kad@iris122.biosym.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: New Revamped FAQ Message-ID: <9411231821.AA07788@iris122.biosym.com>

    > 2.6 Marillion is thanked in the liners in IAW, whats the relation? > > Dream Theater opened for Marillion in New York (anyone have the > exact date?). Mike Portnoy also said, "We're all really big fans. I > really dig 'Misplaced Childhood'." Whether Dream Theater and Phish are > familiar with each other is not certain.

    This is probably a very stupid question but I would like to know what does Phish have to do with Marillion or Dream Theater? Shouldn't it be Fish by any chance?

    Kinga

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    Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 13:04:52 -0700 (MST) From: BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: New Revamped FAQ correction Message-ID: <199411232004.NAA28661@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>

    In the influence section, it is written that Petrucci is keen to Pantera....Shouldn't this say Portnoy?

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    Date: Wed, 23 Nov 94 17:54:00 EST From: "Cackowski, David" <dcackow%eastlrc@ibm4381.onet.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Awake on vinyl Message-ID: <2ED3F2B1@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>

    Well, I finally got it gang. Yes, indeed. The vinyl copy of "Awake" that I have been seeking since it's release finally arrived in my mailbox last Thursday. Anyone who wants details or how to obtain their own copy, please e-mail me privately or to the list. Happy turkey day jammers, Dave C. Cleveland

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