YTSEJAM Digest 597
Today's Topics:
1) PROGnosis and DT
by "Debra D. Hanson 813-332-1969" <HANSOND@mail.firn.edu>
2)
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
3) Re: Accesibility of Metropolis ('tention spans)
by Douglas Merrell <merrell@cs.fsu.edu>
4) Re: WDAJU
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
5) wouldn't it suck....
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
6) Re: promo-cd
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
7) Re: Accesibility of Metropolis
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
8) Re: LaBrie vs. Dominici, AGAIN
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
9) Re: WDAJU
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
10) DT videos?
by "Debra D. Hanson 813-332-1969" <HANSOND@mail.firn.edu>
11) Re: WDAJU
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
12) Re: WDAJU
by "Huub J.P. de Lijser" <DELYSER@chem1.chem.dal.ca>
13) [ARCHIVE INFO:] Directory Changes
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
14) Re: FAQ/Silent Man vocals
by PROGnosis1@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 17:17:21 EST
From: "Debra D. Hanson 813-332-1969" <HANSOND@mail.firn.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: PROGnosis and DT
Message-ID: <E1470ZVMUOSYK2*/R=FIRNVX/R=A1/U=HANSOND/@MHS>
Kudos to Bret and others for putting together a dynamite premiere issue of
PROGnosis magazine which features Dream Theater on the cover with an
excellent, well-written story. It also covers Dixie Dregs, Progfest, and
Cairo, among other bands and news... a must for all DT collectors -
****************************
Deb Hanson
hansond@mail.firn.edu
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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 94 15:27:44 PST
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Message-ID: <9411232327.AA04817@teng6.fmt>
> From ytsejam@arastar.com Wed Nov 23 12:08:47 1994
> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 11:24:48 +0800
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> Chris Collins was rough around the edges...
Heh. They had to stop the vocal track after every line he sang
because he couldn't keep it up. So he was an ok vocalist for
demo purposes, but as a performer... that would`ve been impossible
for him. And he was alcoholic, too. How did John P. put it? "He
had too much of a liking for whiskey." or something like that.
>
> -The Doc
Zach
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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 13:42:46 -0500 (EST)
From: Douglas Merrell <merrell@cs.fsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Accesibility of Metropolis ('tention spans)
Message-ID: <199411231842.SAA28573@cs.fsu.edu>
[ stuff about the polyrythms of Metropolis and Average Radio Listener ]
Phil mentioned that:
>
> I think it is for these reason that they cannot enjoy/respect the talent of
> bands like Rush and DT. (if they can only focus their attention for four
> minutes, that rules out almost all Rush and DT songs)
>
> TRUST ME!!! THESE PEOPLE ACTUALLY EXIST!! And there are alot of them! I
> usually end up having them as my roomates :(
>
> Phil,
>
>
Yeah Phil,
I agree totally! It's people with these short attention spans that really piss me
off sometimes.
Why is it that every time I try to crank up the GOOD music, everyone else wants to
listen to dance ( :-<> ) or cRAP. I feel it's music like this that is turning the
listener's brain cells to a numb, stringy, useless rope-like connection that is content
with the mainstream, go-with-the-flow type of (music?). It's not really music!!
I also have a "Lost-In-Space Gator", who is not using the majority of his brain, that
seems to think that that country singer with the southern twang is actually making
something we all call MUSIC.
He's just lucky I haven't heard him playing that crap on my stereo!
C-ya,
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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 13:35:57 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: WDAJU
Message-ID: <199411232035.NAA24984@bud.indirect.com>
> Cause if you noticed, these bootlegs are made in Italy and various other
> European countries which have different copyright laws then we do... and
> sometimes what we consider bootleg here is not even bootleg in Europe...
> perfectly legal... so if you wanna run down to Italy and cut us a few
> CD's... no prob!
I don't know if my previous post on the topic made it to the net,
but I will be able to make the WDATU (When Dream And Today Unite) CD's
around February or March. I will have full time access to a quad spin
audio CD burner. Cost will be around $25 per disc. I will include as much
as 75 minutes will hold.
I make this offer because I will already be burning CDs of all
the shows I capture on minidisc. So it will be just one more disc I can
make available...
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com
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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 94 19:17:52 PST
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: wouldn't it suck....
Message-ID: <9411240317.AA12677@teng6.fmt>
Wouldn't it suck if the new DT keyboardist's name turned
out to be James?
just an evening thought...
Z.
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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 23:04:13 -0600 (CST)
From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: promo-cd
Message-ID: <199411240504.XAA27119@galaxy.galstar.com>
>
> Hello out there,
>
> finally I got my copy of the japanese version of 'Awake' and as I searched
> the second-hand segment of the Record-Store I found a promotiomal CD called
> 'Wach Auf' (Awake), which features two tracks from Dream Theater (6:00 and Lie),
> two tracks of Testament and two tracks of Sick Of It All (what a neightbourhood
> for D.T.). No question that I bought it at once.
Wach Auf litterally means Wake Up... :) I wonder why they put two other
DT non related bands on the cd though. Weird people over there in
Deutschland. :)
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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 23:12:22 -0600 (CST)
From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Accesibility of Metropolis
Message-ID: <199411240512.XAA27185@galaxy.galstar.com>
> I could care shit for Accessibility... but unfortunately... that's what
> sells records to the less critical music listeners of the world...
Thats exactly how I feel... it's horrible. The mindless teens of todays
youth. At Best Buy JUST today I was reminded of this. See in the speaker
room you can select from a list of CDs to play, and I was playing Yes.
(No other prog. grousp, cept Live, if you want it call it progressive)
Anyway I was standing over the thing where you pick the cd, and this
dumbass kid walked right up and hit the Stone Temple Pilot CD picture
and started playing it. It really pissed me off.
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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 23:21:01 -0600 (CST)
From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: LaBrie vs. Dominici, AGAIN
Message-ID: <199411240521.XAA27231@galaxy.galstar.com>
> The bottom line is this: Don't *anybody* bring up the fact that
> Dominici goes flat on the high note in TKH ("I am the Killing Hand!!"),
> because I will bring up LATM, where James goes as flat, then he decides to
> reach for a *higher* note, and doesn't really get that one either, it's more
> of a bloodcurdling scream. Pound for pound, if Dominici had the training
> that LaBrie has had, I think I would care for him more due to his vocal tone.
Tell me... I'm not a professional singer or have never had lessons... but
I can match JL's pitches on the LATM version of that. I can't sing as
loud as he does, but I can get there... can you? (With your training?) I
can succesfully sing all of DTs, FWs, and QRs songs that I've heard, all
exactly on pitch and in the correct octave. I can also sing quite deep
too... were you at this level when you started? What i'm trying to ask is
this: can almost everybody do what I do? I don't really know any singers
or anything so I can't judge myself with other people.
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Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 08:54:43 -0600 (CST)
From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: WDAJU
Message-ID: <199411241454.IAA29357@galaxy.galstar.com>
> I don't know if my previous post on the topic made it to the net,
> but I will be able to make the WDATU (When Dream And Today Unite) CD's
> around February or March. I will have full time access to a quad spin
> audio CD burner. Cost will be around $25 per disc. I will include as much
> as 75 minutes will hold.
Why so much???
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Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 11:37:49 EST
From: "Debra D. Hanson 813-332-1969" <HANSOND@mail.firn.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT videos?
Message-ID: <E1448ZVMVGVVBL*/R=FIRNVX/R=A1/U=HANSOND/@MHS>
I don't have cable access and would love to acquire copies of DT's videos -
"Lie", CiaW, etc... If anyone on the list has them available, please e-mail
me. Thanks.
***************
Deb Hanson
hansond@mail.firn.edu
"And answer a call while you still hear at all
cause nobody will if you won't" - K. Moore, 6:00
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Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 13:04:19 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: WDAJU
Message-ID: <199411242004.NAA01379@bud.indirect.com>
> > I don't know if my previous post on the topic made it to the net,
> > but I will be able to make the WDATU (When Dream And Today Unite) CD's
> > around February or March. I will have full time access to a quad spin
> > audio CD burner. Cost will be around $25 per disc. I will include as much
> > as 75 minutes will hold.
>
> Why so much???
Simply because that is what my cost will be... I'm not EastWest
records, ya know. :) Counting the CD, burning it, doing the jewel box,
and printing liner, and mailing cost, will bring it to a total of
something like $18, plus $5 toward the cost of paying off the CD burner
(this is a requirement I have to adhere to in order to be able to use it)
and I get a whopping $2 for my trouble... that's less than minimum wage!
The reason I would do this is because I personally want to see it happen
as much as the rest of us here on Ytsejam.
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com
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Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 22:04:43 AST
From: "Huub J.P. de Lijser" <DELYSER@chem1.chem.dal.ca>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: WDAJU
Message-ID: <6E19380DB2@chem1.chem.dal.ca>
>
> I don't know if my previous post on the topic made it to the net,
> but I will be able to make the WDATU (When Dream And Today Unite) CD's
> around February or March. I will have full time access to a quad spin
> audio CD burner. Cost will be around $25 per disc. I will include as much
> as 75 minutes will hold.
>
> I make this offer because I will already be burning CDs of all
> the shows I capture on minidisc. So it will be just one more disc I can
> make available...
>
> Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com
>
>
>
Great! I'd like to have a copy. Are we going to have a sign-up list?
And since I'm posting here I might as well get something else of my
chest: I know this will come as a shock to many of you (and you will
probably consider me a blasphemer) but I am not really as impressed
with SDV as most of you are. I was wondering if that's just me or is
there anybody else out there that feels the same way. Don't flame me
for this. It's just my opinion; no big deal.
Huub
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Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 18:10:30 PST
From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: [ARCHIVE INFO:] Directory Changes
Message-ID: <199411250210.SAA29944@netcom7.netcom.com>
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Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 22:04:34 -0500 From: PROGnosis1@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: FAQ/Silent Man vocals Message-ID: <941124220433_6666151@aol.com>
Somebody wrote: <<<3.26 Who sings backup vocals on The Silent Man?
John Petrucci.>>>
Um, I think someone asked JLB at an early show about this and he said it was one of the producers, Baron or Purdell.
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