YTSEJAM Digest 550
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: The Mirror (lyrics)
by "James Studnicki (HON)" <studnick@soleil.acomp.usf.edu>
2) Fanzine
by mike.masi@chowda.com (Mike Masi)
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 548
by khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson)
4) Re: Album covers of I&W's and Awake
by G-Man <gmsanbo@strauss.udel.edu>
5) Re: Repeating themes
by Matthew M Leger <mml@kepler.unh.edu>
6) Tour Date update available for ftp
by "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tamsun.tamu.edu>
7) DT C-Man phone-in
by "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tamsun.tamu.edu>
8) Re: Album covers of I&W's and...
by Godsize@aol.com
9) Eve?
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
10) "Scarred" for life
by GENE SZUCS <SZUCSEUE@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu>
11) Re: 4 favorites from Awake
by PMCDOWEL@UTCVM.UTC.EDU
12) Re: 4 favorites from Awake
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
13) couldn't believe it
by Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
14) 1st Post & CD Thickness
by Mike Sullivan <msulliva@eagle.esd189.wednet.edu>
15) DT in Phoenix and Tucson
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
16) Re: Um, sorry 'bout this, but...
by Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>
17) Single + Eve
by "Martin Heath" <mheath@morgan.com>
18) 6:00
by "Alan J. Mallery" <ajmaller@ouray.Denver.Colorado.EDU>
19) ... reminds me of...
by Jeremy Longley <jcl1008@cus.cam.ac.uk>
20) Re: Single + Eve
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
21) Re: Repeating themes
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
22) Re: Um, sorry 'bout this, but...
by smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve Mansfield)
23) 4 favorites from AWAKE
by Edward Neal Haag <enhaag@uncc.edu>
24) Re: Album covers of I&W's and Awake
by William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
25) Re: Um, sorry 'bout this, but...
by William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
26) Instructional Video
by Stephen Ronald Furey <sfurey@cs.mun.ca>
27) Re:Wierd DT stat
by Godsize@aol.com
28) another day in erotomania
by Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
29)
by
30) Re: Repeating themes
by EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu
31) Re: 4 favorites from AWAKE
by Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
32) Potpourri
by Hailey <pass@u.washington.edu>
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Topic No. 1
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 21:14:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: "James Studnicki (HON)" <studnick@soleil.acomp.usf.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: The Mirror (lyrics)
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90a.941011211225.12682A-100000@soleil>
On Tue, 11 Oct 1994, James Peele wrote:
> I know a couple of
> girls that DT invited to their hotel after a show in Orange Park, FL.
> When these girls told me this, I said: "Oh wow! Where are they staying?
> Are they having an after show party or something?" The girl replied:
> "Well, they (DT) said 'not to tell any guys'."
Odd. I heard most of the band members were married.
Jim Studnicki
studnick@soleil.acomp.usf.edu
University of South Florida
Tampa, Florida, USA
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Topic No. 2
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 13:13:49 GMT
From: mike.masi@chowda.com (Mike Masi)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Fanzine
Message-ID: <9410111900081934@chowda.com>
What steps does one take to subscribe to the DT fanzine? The liner
notes of Awake just give the address, but don't mention anything about
postage, money (cash, checks, MO's), etc. Any help much appreciated.
Mike <mike.masi@chowda.com>
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Topic No. 3
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 94 17:47:36 MDT
From: khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 548
Message-ID: <9410112347.AA25346@nyx.cs.du.edu>
Beat this:
Dream Theater plays in Denver on November 22. My Birthday!
Just had to share that with everyone...
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Topic No. 4
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 22:06:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: G-Man <gmsanbo@strauss.udel.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Album covers of I&W's and Awake
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9410112254.A5223-0100000@strauss.udel.edu>
> Also I was always curious about this. In QR's song Anybody Listening? There
> is a line which stood out for me.
>
> Is there anyone who smiles without a mask?
> What's behind the word - images
> they know will please us?
>
> Empire was released in 1990 and IAW was recorded in 1991. Did DT get the
> idea of Images and Words from this bit from QR? I've always been curious
> about that. If anyone has thoughts on this please let me know what you
> think....
> Tony Maglia
> ajm6@lehigh.edu
I noticed that too - I bet they did get I&W from that line.
G
| Garrett M Sanborne Univ of Delaware | "I can't hold on any longer |
| =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- | These feelings keep growing |
| Dream Theater * Rush * Queensryche * | stronger." |
| * Led Zeppelin * Metallica * etc ... | - Dream Theater, Caught in a Web |
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Topic No. 5
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 22:49:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matthew M Leger <mml@kepler.unh.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: Repeating themes
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9410112200.A26221-0100000@kepler.unh.edu>
On Tue, 11 Oct 1994, William Wright wrote:
> Hey... I was just listening to the CD and I think I MIGHT have found a
> repeated theme... is the part of Scarred that goes "And how come you
> don't understand me" the same melody at the start of LSoaD?
>
> Has anyone found any others besides the Eroto/SM and Mirror/SDV repeats?
>
I posted this a while back and noone ever said anything... Maybe it
didn't go over... In Eorotomania at 2:50 doesn't this sound like the
melody from Another Day??? CHECK IT OUT!! SERIOUSLY!!! It's right
before the Silent Man theme that Petrucci plays.....
Oh well, Hey, Has anyone seen/heard/checked out that new Interactive
stuff that was released?? How is it?? The only version on ftp.music.net
is for Mac, which doesn't do me much good.....
Later,
Matt
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Topic No. 6
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 21:52:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tamsun.tamu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Tour Date update available for ftp
Message-ID: <199410120252.AA17773@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Here is the most recent tour date list that i have compiled. send me any
news on new shows or changes so i can update the list.. i have uploaded the
list to ftp.netcom.com /pub/drkhoe/dt/DT_tour_dates.txt and will be trying
to update them whenever i get new information. hopefully this will help
people like me who are trying to catch as many shows in a row as possible.
(i am going to at least 5).
Dream Theater Tour Dates
Awake Tour 1994/1995
Updated 10/11/94
First Leg:
I Mother Earth opening:
10/20/94 Providence,RI The Strand
10/21/94 Boston Berklee Performance Center
10/22/94 New Haven,CT Palace Theater
10/24/94 Buffalo,NY Connecticut Street Armory
10/25/94 Toronto, CA RPM Warehouse
10/27/94 Baltimore Hammerjacks
10/28/94 New York City, NY Manhattan Center
10/29/94 Pittsburgh Metropol
10/31/94 Columbus, OH Newport Music Hall
11/01/94 Grand Rapids, MI Orbit Room
11/04/94 Milwaukee, WI Ray's Eagles Auditorium
11/05/94 Chicago Vic Theater
11/06/94 Detroit State Theater
11/08/94 Minneapolis, MN Mirage
11/10/94 St. Louis, MO Club 367
11/11/94 Kansas City Memorial Hall
11/12/94 Oklahoma City, OK Roxy Music Hall
11/14/94 San Antonio, TX Majestic Theatre
11/16/94 Dallas, TX Deep Ellum Live (rescheduled from 11/14)
11/17/94 Austin, TX The Terrace
11/18/94 Houston, TX Tower Theater
11/20/94 El Paso, TX County Coliseum
11/22/94 Denver, CO Mammoth Events Center
12/01/94 San Francisco, CA The Warfield
12/04/94 Tucson, AZ Buena Vista Theater
12/05/94 Phoenix (Tempe), AZ Club Rio
Eastwest Records America:
(212)275-2500
Voices repeating me, Brian V. Cox Voices discussing me,
"Feeling threatened? lerxst@tamu.edu "Others steal your thoughts
We reflect your hopes Dream Theater- They're not confined
and fears." A Mind Beside Itself: II. Voices Within your mind."
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Topic No. 7
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 21:57:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tamsun.tamu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT C-Man phone-in
Message-ID: <199410120257.AA18429@tamsun.tamu.edu>
> by buffalo@panix.com (C man)
> KDZR DALLAS 1 800 992 ROCK
i have an idea, why don't we all call z-rock from around the country,
no matter where we are, whether or not we get z-rock. it can only
help. it is a free number, and they will be more impressed with people
calling from all over the country than just a few people around dallas.
also, we might request other songs off awake.
believe it or not, zrock has played "ytsejam", "metropolis", and "afterlife"
before, nationwide!! i almost shit when i heard metropolis on the radio.
especially call during "US 240", the 4 hour request show on zrock on saturday.
we need to push lie up in the zrock 50!!!
Voices repeating me, Brian V. Cox Voices discussing me,
"Feeling threatened? lerxst@tamu.edu "Others steal your thoughts
We reflect your hopes Dream Theater- They're not confined
and fears." A Mind Beside Itself: II. Voices Within your mind."
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Topic No. 8
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 94 22:46:25 EDT
From: Godsize@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Album covers of I&W's and...
Message-ID: <9410112246.tn00405@aol.com>
Tony I don't know if DT got the idea of I&W from QR but their is something
completely different that I have wondered. Te name of Pantera's second album
is Vulgar Display Of Power. I just recently saw the first Exorcist movie and
in it their is a scene that goes something like this:A man says to the
posessed child something like " why don't you just kill us all" then the
possesed child says "I won't, that would be a much too Vulgar Display Of
Power".
Does anyone know if this is where Pantera got the title idea?
Please let me know. Sorry for the nonDT content.
Trey
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Topic No. 9
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 23:08:21 -0500 (EDT)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam SERVER)
Subject: Eve?
Message-ID: <199410120308.XAA28300@rasp.cs.brandeis.edu>
For those of you getting the Japanese version of Awake, can you
compare the version of Eve to the one that they played as the intro
for LTL on the last tour... Especially compared to the Lost In The
Sky version (I think that that is one of the best version of Eve...
The sound of Eve is almost haunting to me... (it sorta sounds like
the audience chanting... maybe its just me...))
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Topic No. 10
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 23:41:14 -0400 (EDT) From: GENE SZUCS <SZUCSEUE@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: "Scarred" for life Message-ID: <01HI62DMU1XE001A3D@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu>
Hey, about this whole omission of Scarred being left off tape. I find that very hard to figure out because from what I know, tapes have more playing time than cd's. I got this from an interview with Nuno Bettencourt of Extreme in GFTPM. On their latest release, "Three Sides To Every Story", one of the tracks (forgot which one) was able to be put on tape, but not on the cd because their wasn't enough time. WEll, go figure!!
_______________+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++_______________________________________ THERE'S NO ONE | Eugene | NOTHING TO TO TAKE MY BLAME | E. Szucs | KEEP ME SANE if they wanted to, |University of Dayton | and it's all the same to you |_______________________| -Dream Theater ____________________________________________________________________________-___-
"Angels were falling from the sky......yes that's what they were. Coming to take him from eternal damnation and to lead him to eternal decadence among the stars. Tiny wings feathered with teardrops collapsing upon the land, the angels came, and Gerard played his endless nocturnal game, dancing in the Twilight Rain..."
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Topic No. 11
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 94 23:32:24 EDT From: PMCDOWEL@UTCVM.UTC.EDU To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: 4 favorites from Awake Message-ID: <m0quubr-0000vFC@crash.cts.com>
Well, I just got the CD today(I have had the tape for the past week) so I may not be giving Scarred a chance(this is defintely one of those songs that takes awhile to get into. Anyway, I am really into the first four songs on the CD.....6:00, Web, IF, and Erotic. I am slowly getting into Space Dye. I had that song going through my head the whole weekend and everybody at work asked me why I looked so depressed!!!!!!
Patrick(still workiing on a review)
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Topic No. 12
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 22:35:57 -0500 (CDT) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: 4 favorites from Awake Message-ID: <199410120335.WAA13883@galaxy.galstar.com>
> Start posting your 4 favorites from Awake! Hey - What the hell? Why not? > Mine: > 1. Scarred > 2. Voices > 3. Space Dye Vest > 4. The Mirror
Hmm... well let me first say it took the longest on Scarred and Voices to really start to dig those two tunes.... they kick.
I think I'll go with...
1. Scarred 2. Voices 3. Space Dye Vest 4. 6:00
the 4 is really close, I like Erotomainia a lot also.
oh about repeating themes, I think I heard a littel of CiaW in Eroto...? Anyone hear this?
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Topic No. 13
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 14:11:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: couldn't believe it Message-ID: <0iahJAC00iV105u2Rh@andrew.cmu.edu>
I wet to a couple record stores last night and was hit with a couple of surprises. First, at Oasis, they had a DT poster hanging up at the counter. It was a large version of the studio shot from the Awake cover. SO I asked if I could have it, and they said it's the only one they had.
So then I went to Sam Goody's, got frustrated because, as usual, they didn't have No Exit, and then, as my friends and I were about to leave, I heard three notes coming over the speakers.
The Mirror.
So we turned the place into a moshpit for the next 6:45, then left feeling elated, but a little let down cuz they didn't follow it with Lie. Oh well.
max ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ does this voice the does this voice the wounds of your soul? wounds of your soul? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Topic No. 14
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 21:12:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Sullivan <msulliva@eagle.esd189.wednet.edu> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: 1st Post & CD Thickness Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9410112127.A5049-0100000@eagle>
Hey my first post! I've been reading for many months and finally decided to post. First off, when I first listened to AWAKE I wasn't too sure about it but it only took me a couple of listens before I really liked it. Still not as good as IAW but maybe it will get there.
Next, Does the length of the CD determine its thickness? This is the only CD that gets stuck in my Car CD player. I has a problem ejecting. Anybody else have this problem. It only happens on this CD. It appears to be thicker. anyone?
Mike S.
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Topic No. 15
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 22:21:20 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: DT in Phoenix and Tucson Message-ID: <199410120521.WAA16976@bud.indirect.com>
Dream Theater will be in Tucson 12/4 and Phoenix 12/5... I will be going to both shows, and hosting a nice gathering on 12/5 before the show at Club Rio (everyone bring your recording devices.. best of show wins a free DT bootleg sampler tape!) This gathering will very likely be at either my own dwelling or at someplace cool that's NEAR Club Rio. I'd almost prefer my place for several hours previous to the show so we have time to check out some bootlegs and so forth. Beer will be a must! I'm hoping you'll all Take The Time to mail me if you live in Phoenix (or Tucson and are going to the show in Phoenix) talk to ya then!
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com, marabout@genesis.mc.maricopa.edu your friendly FAQ guy!
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Topic No. 16
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 00:15:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: Um, sorry 'bout this, but... Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9410120001.A3605-0100000@bigcat>
Wrong again...it's definetly NOT James...I also agree it's not John P. (even though Silent Man is...it's not the same voice)...and after hearing Kev's speaking voice many times...and listening closly...it's gotta be him! I have no doubt in my mind about this!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- According to the circle of fifths, and the pattern of sharps and flats: If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sig's) (i.e A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major would have 4 sharps.
ERIC MOEGLING: emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu as297@freenet.hsc.colorado.edu
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On Tue, 11 Oct 1994, Steve Mansfield wrote:
> > How many times has this been covered on the list? 20? I'm kinda slow > > and Mom has me back on my medication. Well, here goes... > > Who sings on SDV? I just assumed that it was Kevin James L., but now I > > remember someone mentioning Mike. Am I even close? Should I have my CD > > (and Net account) repossessed for asking? > > Pleeze give some consideration for the memory-impaired Ytsejammers! > > Nope, it's not Mike. Listening to it just to be sure, it is definitely > James. It's not John P. either, as I've heard him sing, and it ain't his > voice either. > > Steve Mansfield |Once you're touched you stand alone to face the bitter fight > smm@uunet.uu.net |Once I reached for love but now I reach for life. > Dream Theater - Learning to Live > >
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Topic No. 17
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 04:06:34 -0400 From: "Martin Heath" <mheath@morgan.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Single + Eve Message-ID: <9410121706.ZM18520@morgan.com>
Hi everyone, Just listening to Awake and was just struck by the obvious single. Yup I have the same reaction to this song as everyone else. I love it. Plus it is not heavy at all so there is less chance to alienate the mainstream audience. Space-Dye Vest. What do you think? Sacrilege? Would probably force them to play it in concert.
Martin.
P.S. for the people getting the Japanese Awake, the single is free floating i.e. not attached to the rest of the case (contained in its own paper bag). I suggest getting one of those nifty 2 CDs in 1 cases that Joe Satriani's Time Machine came in and transferring them. Hmmm I should do this for the Extreme III sides single too.
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Topic No. 18
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 02:23:02 -0600 (MDT) From: "Alan J. Mallery" <ajmaller@ouray.Denver.Colorado.EDU> To: Dream Theater List <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: 6:00 Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.90.941012022104.14149A-100000@ouray>
Well, after listening a few more times, 6:00 is definitely one of my faves on the album. And there are a good amount of keys if you listen. Esp. the kickass keyboard solo in the middle!
Al
______________________________________________________________________________ Alan Mallery | (ajmaller@ouray.denver.colorado.edu) | (insert quote here) (Emerson@aol.com) |
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Topic No. 19
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 09:29:36 +0100 (BST) From: Jeremy Longley <jcl1008@cus.cam.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: ... reminds me of... Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941012092611.13602A-100000@apus.cus.cam.ac.uk>
just to run a couple more of these off, does:
the beginning of Erotomania remind anyone else of the Woodstock Jam off Satriani's "The Time Machine"?
and the chordal passage in Voices reminds me of the first song on George Michael's "Listen w/o prejudice" (praying for time).
Cheerz, Jezza. _ _ (_)___ ________ _| | Jeremy Longley - jcl1008@cus.cam.ac.uk | / -_)_ /_ / _` |_| Selwyn College _/ \___/__/__\__,_(_) Cambridge Sattinger's Law: |__/ It works better if you plug it in...
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Topic No. 20
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 07:24:41 -0500 (CDT) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Single + Eve Message-ID: <199410121224.HAA15729@galaxy.galstar.com>
> Hi everyone, > Just listening to Awake and was just struck by the obvious single. Yup I > have the same reaction to this song as everyone else. I love it. Plus it is not > heavy at all so there is less chance to alienate the mainstream audience. > Space-Dye Vest. > What do you think? Sacrilege? Would probably force them to play it in > concert.
hmm... well I thought about that too... it'd be so cool to hear SDV on the radio...then I could say the radio plays good music. however, its a) too long, b) not commertial enough (ie, to depressing, sad) c) kev's songs and DT would probably never even think about doing it. :( yeah it sucks...
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Topic No. 21
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 07:32:39 -0500 (CDT) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Repeating themes Message-ID: <199410121232.HAA15772@galaxy.galstar.com>
> I posted this a while back and noone ever said anything... Maybe it > didn't go over... In Eorotomania at 2:50 doesn't this sound like the > melody from Another Day??? CHECK IT OUT!! SERIOUSLY!!! It's right > before the Silent Man theme that Petrucci plays.....
I did, but couldn't hear it... sorry! :)
> > Oh well, Hey, Has anyone seen/heard/checked out that new Interactive > stuff that was released?? How is it?? The only version on ftp.music.net > is for Mac, which doesn't do me much good.....
Yeah, COME ON C-MAN! Upload the DOS version! :)
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Topic No. 22
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 08:49:19 -0400 (EDT) From: smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve Mansfield) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Um, sorry 'bout this, but... Message-ID: <QQxlhj10474.199410121249@rodan.UU.NET>
> Wrong again...it's definetly NOT James...I also agree it's not John P. > (even though Silent Man is...it's not the same voice)...and after hearing > Kev's speaking voice many times...and listening closly...it's gotta be > him! I have no doubt in my mind about this!
I guess you could tell Gomer Pyle's (I forget the actor's name) singing voice from his speaking voice too, then I take it? I have to disagree, but you are indeed entitled to your opinion. I guess we'll all find out soon enough once someone can ask at a concert.
Steve Mansfield |Once you're touched you stand alone to face the bitter fight smm@uunet.uu.net |Once I reached for love but now I reach for life. Dream Theater - Learning to Live
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Topic No. 23
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 09:04:04 -0400 From: Edward Neal Haag <enhaag@uncc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: 4 favorites from AWAKE Message-ID: <199410121304.JAA06422@ws247.uncc.edu>
I guess it's time to post my faves here.
1. 6:00 2. Silent Man 3. Lie 4. Scarred or SDV (I'm not sure yet)
Just a thought here. Has anyone else noted that the melody from Innocence Faded and The Silent Man run in the background at various points of Erotomania? I know there were comments previously about The Mirror running somewhere, but I don't remember where. I also found the Wheel of Fortune theme in Scarred that Larry Hartman was talking about.
I have now listened to this disc about 20-30 times and it is starting to replace I&W as my favorite DT disc.
Later Aaron
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Topic No. 24
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 09:03:10 -0400 (EDT) From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Album covers of I&W's and Awake Message-ID: <IiaxuCy00WB9A39JNn@andrew.cmu.edu>
i've been suspicious about a line from somewhere in operation mindcrime 'parallel lives'... parallels is from 1991, too... but then again, parallel lives is a semi common phrase...
sue me. i still like fates and dt better than qr
if YOU want to know ----- bill bajzek ------- and if YOU want to know just what i see ------- impaler@cmu.edu ------------ where were going look at yourself --- http://www.contrib.andrew --- keep your distance and dont ask me ----- .cmu.edu/usr/wb2a/home ----- and dont follow me
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Topic No. 25
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 09:10:01 -0400 (EDT) From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Um, sorry 'bout this, but... Message-ID: <4iay0dK00WB9Q39M94@andrew.cmu.edu>
i'm not sure but i think labrie and petrucci sing the first 2 verses together... i might be wrong but it kinda sounds like it on my stereo. or maybe labrie overdubbed. or maybe its labrie and moore. labrie's definitely there, and i think someone else might be there
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Topic No. 26
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 11:38:34 -0230 From: Stephen Ronald Furey <sfurey@cs.mun.ca> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Instructional Video Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9410121113.D18992-0100000@ganymede.cs.mun.ca>
Has anyone else heard about John Petrucci doing an instructional with REH video. That's what I heard from a very good source. -Steve
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Topic No. 27
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 94 18:05:09 EDT From: Godsize@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re:Wierd DT stat Message-ID: <9410111805.tn379024@aol.com>
When James sings "It's time to take the time" that is called a hook not a chorus. It is just one line. Too short for a chorus.
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Topic No. 28
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 09:03:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: another day in erotomania Message-ID: <8iaxula00iV8E20W5L@andrew.cmu.edu>
Well, I listened to Erotomania and paid particularly close attention at 2:50, and I couldn't really hear Another Day. What I could hear sounded a lot like Another Hand, the piece they played on the last tour to bridge Another Day and the Killing Hand.
max ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ does this voice the does this voice the wounds of your soul? wounds of your soul? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Topic No. 29
Overall the entire album has multiple parts which immediately remind me of other guitar greats such as Satriani, Malmsteen, and Vai. I'm personally reminded of Satriani more often....
Tony ajm6@lehigh.edu
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Topic No. 30
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 10:54:36 -0400 (EDT) From: EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Repeating themes Message-ID: <01HI6PPTRF5EB6297D@vms.cis.pitt.edu>
> Oh well, Hey, Has anyone seen/heard/checked out that new Interactive >stuff that was released?? How is it?? The only version on ftp.music.net >is for Mac, which doesn't do me much good.....
Well, I spent two days trying to get at the Mac interactive thing, and finally (with a lot of help that I didn't really understand), I ended up with a Mac executable that ran. It would be pretty cool, except every time it runs, only the upper left quarter is on the screen, the rest can't be seen. I've tried everything, and no luck. Worse yet, if there's a quit option, I can't see it or get to it, so I have to reboot everytime. The last option is that a co-worker of mine is going to try to convert the file into an executable that a Sun can run. Hopefully that will work. Any thoughts or ideas would be greatly appreciated. Someone here said they think a different Mac model might run it correctly (I'm on a Mac IIsi). The music is cool in it anyway. I heard Lie, and 2 others from Awake (I don't remember cuz I was concentrating on trying to see the screen).
KAI
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Topic No. 31
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 11:08:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: 4 favorites from AWAKE Message-ID: <8iazk0G00iUyQ2rWop@andrew.cmu.edu>
well, why not...
1. SDV 2. Caught in a Web / Voices (tied) 4. The Mirror
I'm also starting to really like Innocence Faded...I think that that and Scarred are the most I&Wish tracks on the disk...
Am I the only who ranks CIAW this highly? I think everything about the song is perfect...the vocal melodies, the chorus, the solo section, the rhythms, everything...
Also, everyone seems to rate this disk as being heavier than I&W...for the most part I'd agree, but I still think the heaviest DT song is Pull Me Under, followed by The Killing Hand from LATM, then the Mirror...
max ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ does this voice the does this voice the wounds of your soul? wounds of your soul? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Topic No. 32
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 09:39:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Hailey <pass@u.washington.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Potpourri Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9410120916.A19374-0100000@homer17.u.washington.edu>
There's a whole bunch of subjects floating around, so I thought I'd just put all of my opinions together.
First of all... Top four songs off the album: 1. SDV 2. 6:00 3. AMBI (I know,I'm cheating -- sosumi) 4. CiaW
Next, I want to point out some 'similarities to other artists/songs.' A pointless exercise, I agree, but one that amuses me nonetheless. In CiaW, the chorus is eerily similar to Styx's 'Love at First Sight' off of Edge of the Century. In the same song, the instrumental guitar part is *very* Steve Morse-ish. And in Erotomania, there is a part towards the end that sort of reminds me of Marty Friedman (speaking of which, his solo album is superb (Scenes, all instrumental).
Just a few more things, I'm already late for class...
I think that it is actually LaBrie on vocals for SDV. After (trying) to sing along with the rest of the album, while the style/voice is different, it still feels the same. (He really is a great vocalist -- incredible power at the highest ranges.)(All IMHO, of course.)
And finally, for all you Seattlites (Seattlians?) ... I've heard (second hand) that the DT show is 11/28 at the Moore Theater (I guess since the Paramount is currently under renovation..). And tickets supposedly go on sale 'Friday,' though whether that's this Friday or what, I dunno.
Yikes, gotta run (fast)
Chris (how did that happen ^^^^ ??)
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