YTSEJAM Digest 549
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: lyrics for A Change Of Seasons
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
2) Re: Martens on Angels...
by Larry G Waterfield <mulgw1@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
3) Petrucci notes
by GENE SZUCS <SZUCSEUE@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu>
4) Call radio!!!!!!!
by buffalo@panix.com (C man)
5) The girl in SDV
by Godsize@aol.com
6) Lie and other assorted truthes
by GENE SZUCS <SZUCSEUE@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu>
7) Re: Awake???
by Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
8) Thought Industry
by James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
9) Re: Silent Man
by "Mark A. Parker" <parkerma@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu>
10) Um, sorry 'bout this, but...
by Larry G Waterfield <mulgw1@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
11) West Coast/Midwest tourdates
by "The Alchemist" <alchemy@xmission.com>
12) I love the song LIE!
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
13) Wheel of Forture riff in Scarred
by hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
14) Awake
by Stephen Van Hooser <vanhoosr@cco.caltech.edu>
15) Awaken the Mystery?
by kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
16) Re: Call radio!!!!!!!
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
17) Eve
by Atsushi Kawami <kawami@ae.keio.ac.jp>
18) Re: Um, sorry 'bout this, but...
by smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve Mansfield)
19) Re: Weird DT stat
by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
20) Awake
by "Tor Houghton" <torh@cogs.susx.ac.uk>
21) Ray Alder sounds like John P.
by rosenzwe@stu.beloit.edu (Stacie Rosenzweig)
22) Re: SDV samples
by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
23) Re: Album covers of I&W's and Awake
by ajm6@Lehigh.EDU (Tony Maglia)
24) The Mirror (lyrics)
by James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
25) 4 favorites from Awake
by James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
26) Repeating themes
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
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Topic No. 1
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 13:27:17 PDT
From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: lyrics for A Change Of Seasons
Message-ID: <199410102027.NAA10329@netcom8.netcom.com>
Yeah... we got the lyrics for ACoS... I have also a bunch of corrected
lyrics for the song that I haven't put up yet... heheh
-The Doc
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Topic No. 2
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 18:10:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Larry G Waterfield <mulgw1@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Martens on Angels... Message-ID: <199410102310.AA19507@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
> > I'm quite sure that the Martens referred to in SDV are Doc Martens (a > wildly popular heavy-soled shoe worn by kids, mostly of the alternative > persuasion)(I think they're rather ugly myself)(the shoes, that is). > > This would make sense, IMN-S-HO, seeing as how he (Kevin) is leafing > through a magazine in the song. > > Chris
Yes! That's it!! It makes perfect sense, I don't know why I didn't see it before. Yes yes, it's all so clear to me now...
Good show Chris!
Toodles! Glenn
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Topic No. 3
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 15:56:28 -0400 (EDT) From: GENE SZUCS <SZUCSEUE@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Petrucci notes Message-ID: <01HI47XG129E00109V@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu>
> Return-path: <> > Received: from udavxb.oca.udayton.edu by udavxb.oca.udayton.edu (PMDF V4.2-10 > #2481) id <01HI00QC2WSW000E3Y@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu>; Fri, > 7 Oct 1994 15:45:51 EDT > Date: Fri, 07 Oct 1994 15:45:50 -0400 (EDT) > From: PMDF Mail Server <postmaster@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu> > Subject: Undeliverable mail: SMTP delivery failure > To: postmaster@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu, SZUCSEUE@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu > Message-id: <01HI00QC5L8Y000E3Y@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu> > MIME-version: 1.0 > Content-type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="Boundary (ID sBo4VKfGDzlOJ7nEspM2MQ)" > > > --Boundary (ID sBo4VKfGDzlOJ7nEspM2MQ) > Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > > The message could not be delivered to: > > Addressee: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
> > DREAMERS, > hey, I have now officially listened to AWAKE over fifty times, and I > just can't get a few of these songs out of my pulsating skull!! LSOD is > definetely one of the more "upbeat" songs, while "Mirror", and "Lie" just make > you want Rice Crispies!! I really have listened to John's work on the low B > string on his Ibanez Universe, and that crunch just hits the spot. I was > reading about his recording techniques, and how he had adjusted from I & W, > using about fifty more setups on the former, and I am just dazzled by his > performace on this album. In Guitar for the Practicing Musician, the > interviewer asked John if he liked being called a "guitar geek", and I have > just been pissed off ever since I read that. John is one of the most dedicated > players I have ever heard, and God bless him AND his metronome.To complicate > things more, the > guy actually tried to contrast John's playing with that of Soundgarden's Kim > Thayil!! Those two should just not even be mentioned in the same sentence. > Now, as a guitar player, I believe Kim's technique (or lack of) should need a > little bit more tuning up, before even being mentioned with John or any other > prog. player. > > _______________+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++_______________________________________ > THERE'S NO ONE | Eugene | NOTHING TO > TO TAKE MY BLAME | E. Szucs | KEEP ME SANE > if they wanted to, |University of Dayton | and it's all the same to you > |_______________________| -Dream Theater > ____________________________________________________________________________-___- > > --Boundary (ID sBo4VKfGDzlOJ7nEspM2MQ)--
_______________+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++_______________________________________ THERE'S NO ONE | Eugene | NOTHING TO TO TAKE MY BLAME | E. Szucs | KEEP ME SANE if they wanted to, |University of Dayton | and it's all the same to you |_______________________| -Dream Theater ____________________________________________________________________________-___-
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Topic No. 4
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 16:12:23 -0400 From: buffalo@panix.com (C man) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Call radio!!!!!!! Message-ID: <aabeea7200021004b7c1@[198.7.7.109]>
Hello, all:
Remember this message:
"I'm going to get the call letters and phone numbers of the stations in the top ten markets and post them to ytsejam over the weekend; I will send the CD single of "Lie" to anyone who rises to the occassion and hounds these stations into playing "Lie" "
Well, here's the list:
WTFX LOUISVILLE 502 571 1005
KUPD PHOENIX 602 260 9800
KNAC LA 310 437 5622
KDZR DALLAS 1 800 992 ROCK
KTUX SHREVEPORT 318 320 9990
KILO CLRDO SPRINGS 719 633 KILO
KBPI DENVER 303 631 2946
To get your CD:
1. Send me a message letting me know WHEN you called and the OUTCOME of your call.
2. When you respond (via e-mail to: buffalo@panix.com), please do the following:
a) type "Dream Theater radio" in the Subject line
b) Enter on one line (or two, if it doesn't fit on one):
First Name <tab key> Last Name <tab key> Street/Apt <tab key> City <tab key> State <tab key> Zip <tab key> Country <tab key> e-mail address
Finally, call often and call often. Did I say.....you got the idea.
C man
P.S. Stay tuned for backstage passes.
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Topic No. 5
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 94 19:07:06 EDT From: Godsize@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: The girl in SDV Message-ID: <9410101907.tn294048@aol.com>
Did Kevin ever talk to this girl that he fell in love with in the magazine? I was just curious because if he didn't maybe he should. I really don't see why see would say no to a date with him. Boy this sounds lame. But does anyone know the answer to this question? Please let me know.
Trey
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Topic No. 6
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 16:01:43 -0400 (EDT) From: GENE SZUCS <SZUCSEUE@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Lie and other assorted truthes Message-ID: <01HI4808PXXK00109V@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu>
Saw the new Lie video the other night, and it really hit me hard not seeing Kev among the men in black. It was a pretty cool video, although I have seen better, but I'm sure others have described it here so I wont get into it. other news, DT'll be on the Headbanger's Ball this week, which should be cool, so pull out your vcr's kids! 21 days to showtime in Columbus!! Hey, that reminds me, does anyone know if they'll be back in the states after their Euro-Invasion? i do hope they'll come back to hit more Mid-Western towns like Cinci. and such
_______________+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++_______________________________________ THERE'S NO ONE | Eugene | NOTHING TO TO TAKE MY BLAME | E. Szucs | KEEP ME SANE if they wanted to, |University of Dayton | and it's all the same to you |_______________________| -Dream Theater ____________________________________________________________________________-___-
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Topic No. 7
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 09:01:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: Awake??? Message-ID: <oiaHgTi00iVC81kYgS@andrew.cmu.edu>
Excerpts from mail: 10-Oct-94 Re: Awake??? by William Wright@galaxy.ga > Yeah sorry... let me clarify what I meant. I meant that the guy in Mirror is > talking to himself about the girl in Lie... he does talk to her sometimes > though like the how the hell can you forgive me line.
Actually, I think he's talking to himself there, too.
max ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ does this voice the does this voice the wounds of your soul? wounds of your soul? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Topic No. 8
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 19:20:01 -0400 (EDT) From: James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Thought Industry Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9410101901.A8845-8100000@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
I just wanted to second the favorable opinion of the band Thought Industry. These guys are awesome... I've seen them live on both tours and have both Thought Industry albums... Check 'em out!!!
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Topic No. 9
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 21:03:40 -0500 From: "Mark A. Parker" <parkerma@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Silent Man Message-ID: <199410110203.VAA00407@o233-18.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu>
>I think that this would be cool because then it would seem like >John's voice is "The Silent Man's" voice.
if the silent man spoke, would he then be silent?
*grins* you have an idea for a harmony there... Don't know if I would use it myself, though.
Dom'ny
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Topic No. 10
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 21:45:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Larry G Waterfield <mulgw1@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Um, sorry 'bout this, but... Message-ID: <199410110245.AA01906@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
How many times has this been covered on the list? 20? I'm kinda slow and Mom has me back on my medication. Well, here goes... Who sings on SDV? I just assumed that it was Kevin James L., but now I remember someone mentioning Mike. Am I even close? Should I have my CD (and Net account) repossessed for asking? Pleeze give some consideration for the memory-impaired Ytsejammers!
While I'm at it, I have a new comment about Awake. I'm not real fond of the bass guitar sound/mix. As a bass player, I really listen for and enjoy the lines of my favorite players. Now, I know that they can't feature John's bass like they do for Steve in Maiden, but geez... I can barely hear John unless they make a conscious effort to feature him. I think he has too much low end in his sound and not enough color. The sound does do a great job of carrying the music, though. I guess what I'm kinda talking about is the bass sound of recent Megadeth (even though Ellefson plays with a pick - barbarism!) and stuff like is on FW's No Exit. Stuff that lends a rich sound to the music while keeping some individual color. I don't know if this sound has a place in DT, but it's got me wondering. Lemme know what you guys think. I was hoping for a better sound than on IAW, where his sound sometimes sounded like a well executed fart. In other places, it fit beautifully. Then again, he was playing a damn Specter! :)
On another down side, I always had fun playing Harris's parts, but I listen to John and end up gape-mouthed and drooling. Duh... Good Lord, the tapping on Metroplolis! Oh well.
Pretty long, but I hope you respond anyway.
Toodles! Glenn
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Topic No. 11
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 21:53:37 -0700 From: "The Alchemist" <alchemy@xmission.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: West Coast/Midwest tourdates Message-ID: <199410110353.VAA05239@xmission.xmission.com>
If anyone has the tour schedule for the Midwest and West Coast...
POST THEM!!! POST THEM!!! POST THEM!!!
thank you. =]
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Topic No. 12
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 23:29:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: I love the song LIE! Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9410102303.C3855-a100000@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
I love the song Lie, I can't understand why so many people hate it.
To all Baltimore people going to the show Oct 27, if you are interested at meeting before the show email me and we can set up a list.
Looks like Queensryche will have to wait until after the DT concert before I even think about buying it. I probably will just wait until I go get the new Megadeth on Halloween (or day after).
I will be listening to only Awake until at least the concert. I didn't even play a tribute for Danny Gatton (a great guitarist from the DC area) who died a week or so ago.
Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files
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Topic No. 13
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 01:13:56 -0400 (EDT) From: hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Wheel of Forture riff in Scarred Message-ID: <199410110513.BAA13256@umbc9.umbc.edu>
Has anyone else noticed the Wheel of Fortune riff in Scarred? For those of you who don't know, Wheel of Fortune is a US TV game show.
It occurs right at 5:30 and last for a little while. It's on a clean guitar tone. Actually I don't know if the show still uses that theme, I haven't watched it in a while.
BTW - that part that starts at 5:30 and last until about 6:25 is just the best! It keeps building and building the the music gets really tense and I feel like I wanna explode then the songs bursts into the chorus. The is probably the only chorus that I like on the whole album. I really don't like the chorus in Voices, the part about like a scream but sort of silent, plus I can't stand to hear him when he actually says the words "voices" is just sounds awful.
While I got the disc in and I picking times, I thought that I would point probably my favorite part on the disc which I think (IMHO) shows what Dream Theater is all about. It's in Erotomania from 2:10 - 2:51. Especially the part that starts right at 2:24. That is my favorite Dream Theater. Since Dream Theater can be so many different things, I think everone likes a certain one of there styles or personalities if you will. For some they like the Dream Theater at the begining of Mirror, but that just not the Dream Theater style that I like. I could get that from Pantera.
Anyone agree? Maybe I'm just Kevin fleeting....
************************************************************************** * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu * * * * You're fighting the weight of the world, * * and no one can save you this time. * * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. * * * * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater * **************************************************************************
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Topic No. 14
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 01:19:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Van Hooser <vanhoosr@cco.caltech.edu> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Awake Message-ID: <Pine.3.88.9410110143.A24962-0100000@piccolo>
Well, I really don't have a review of Awake in the normal fashion, but just some general thoughts. Do the samples bother anyone else? One of the things I liked about DT was that they didn't have many samples, and the ones they did fit right in with the music almost invisibly (like in Take the Time). Unfortunately, I find the current samples extremely annoying. My favorite song is Lifting Shadows Off a Dream, but that solo in the middle sounds like "Oh, we need to make the song longer" rather than "This is a natural progression of the music." I thought Awake was okay until I listened to I&W today. Unfortunately, the chord progression and jazziness which filled I&W in songs like Take the Time (the instrumental section), Learning to Live (the instrumental section again) and Under a Glass Moon are just not present in Awake, or not very often at all. SDV is very good, but also a depressing note on which to end the album (which is not a major complaint because the song is good). The trilogy is good as well, but the other songs just don't feel right. Most are decent songs in their own right, but they're the quality I expect from a less-refined band, unfortunately. If I didn't know the chronological order of the DT albums, I might guess that Awake came out first, then When Dream and Day Unite, and then Images and Words. To truly appreciate Images and Words, I recommend listening to it now that you have listened to Awake, and the differences should scream out.
Steve
---------------------------------------- Stephen D. Van Hooser California Institute of Technology Fall, Winter, Spring: VanHoosr@cco.caltech.edu Summer: SVanHooser@aol.com
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Topic No. 15
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 01:40:29 +0800 From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb) To: ytsejam Subject: Awaken the Mystery? Message-ID: <9410110840.AA22724@anthor.arastar.com>
Has anyone figured out what's on the background behind the lyrics? I can see that there's some pattern there (it looks like a highly magnified view of something printed--a map?) but I can't figure out what it is.
Any clues?
-- Ken Bibb "And I rolled the pages over kbibb@arastar.com And the wisdom just fell into my hands jester@crash.cts.com Now my heart bleeds the colour of roses" David Sylvian--"Colour of Roses"
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Topic No. 16
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 02:02:12 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Call radio!!!!!!! Message-ID: <199410110902.CAA00184@bud.indirect.com>
> "I'm going to get the call letters and phone numbers of > the stations in the top ten markets and post them to ytsejam over the > weekend; I will send the CD single of "Lie" to anyone who rises to the > occassion and hounds these stations into playing "Lie" " > > Well, here's the list: > KUPD PHOENIX 602 260 9800
Yeeha! I'm mailing you right now, since I live ACROSS THE STREET from the station, and not only do I constantly call to request DT, but I *GAVE* them a copy of Awake to play before it was available, and they played it. Lie is on all the time on 97.9 kupd...
It's cool when you can just walk into the radio station and spin the thread with them for no reason... :)
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com, marabout@genesis.mc.maricopa.edu
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Topic No. 17
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 94 18:28:24 +0900 From: Atsushi Kawami <kawami@ae.keio.ac.jp> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: kawami@corona Subject: Eve Message-ID: <9410110928.AA24263@lexus.ae.keio.ac.jp>
To all ytsejamers from Japan.
At last I got Awake Japanese edition today ! Many people gave their comments of every tune from Awake. So I'm going to tell you about Eve---As you know Japanese bonus truck.
Eve is a independant single CD ,which is included in normal jacket. In Japan single CD is about half size of full album. If your CD player isn't adaptable for it, you need adapter to play. But it isn't so expensive. :-)
Eve is about 5 minutes long. Begining with a synthesizer calmly, then after about 30 second piano part steals into it. Afterwards he continues to play beautiful bracing melody..... The first half John Petrucci plays with clear tone, then halfway through the tune he changes his timbre for distorted one and plays composed solo. Eve is a slow tempo ballad. SDV is also piano oriented song. On the one hand I got dark impression from SDV the other hand I felt hope from Eve.
Kevin takes the initiative in Eve. Although now he isn't a member of DT, he left magnificent work for us. Good bye Kevin. Thanks.
Kawami Atsushi (E-Mail: kawami@ae.keio.ac.jp)
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Topic No. 18
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 07:56:51 -0400 (EDT) From: smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve Mansfield) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Um, sorry 'bout this, but... Message-ID: <QQxldn10745.199410111156@rodan.UU.NET>
> How many times has this been covered on the list? 20? I'm kinda slow > and Mom has me back on my medication. Well, here goes... > Who sings on SDV? I just assumed that it was Kevin James L., but now I > remember someone mentioning Mike. Am I even close? Should I have my CD > (and Net account) repossessed for asking? > Pleeze give some consideration for the memory-impaired Ytsejammers!
Nope, it's not Mike. Listening to it just to be sure, it is definitely James. It's not John P. either, as I've heard him sing, and it ain't his voice either.
Steve Mansfield |Once you're touched you stand alone to face the bitter fight smm@uunet.uu.net |Once I reached for love but now I reach for life. Dream Theater - Learning to Live
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Topic No. 19
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 10:29:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Weird DT stat Message-ID: <9410111649.AA25366@anthor.arastar.com>
Um, I think Take the Time has a chorus.....seems like it to me.."You can feel....etc."? just my thought on it.....
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Topic No. 20
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 15:23:25 +0100 (BST) From: "Tor Houghton" <torh@cogs.susx.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Dream Theater) Subject: Awake Message-ID: <m0qui6v-0001KEC@tsunb.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk>
Hey,
Finally got hold of 'Awake' here, and although good, I was missing the real hot Petrucci & Moore stuff. It also seemed that Labrie had a cold on some of the songs -- to rough.
I guess it probably explains a lot that they didn't have to bust their own asses with the producers this time. Hmm.
When can I get 'To Live Forever' and 'A Change of Season' ??
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Topic No. 21
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 10:53:02 +22304916 (CDT) From: rosenzwe@stu.beloit.edu (Stacie Rosenzweig) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Ray Alder sounds like John P. Message-ID: <9410111553.AA21961@stu.beloit.edu>
I was listening to Silent Man a few minutes ago, and I noticed how much John P. (who I'm assuming does backup, as he did on a video I have from a Christmas show) sounds like Ray Alder from Fates Warning (esp. on Inside Out, with the sort of lispy sound) Did anyone else notice this?
Stacie
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Topic No. 22
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 10:25:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: SDV samples Message-ID: <m0qukp7-0002VgC@donews.cts.com>
If it is the OJ quote in SDV, I would think the person talking (NFL commentator) was Al Michaels, of Monday Night Football......
Just thought I 'd throw that in there......:)
- Al
"Now lookie he-ah, I see it all out the-ah, and I sees 'a OJ, and he a looka mighty scared...." - H. Stern fan prank call-in during OJ chase
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Topic No. 23
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 15:05:49 EDT From: ajm6@Lehigh.EDU (Tony Maglia) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Album covers of I&W's and Awake Message-ID: <199410111905.PAA162416@ns1.CC.Lehigh.EDU>
When you talk about the girl on the IAW cover holding the mirror that's on the AWAKE cover, I can see the similarity between the two. I think that it's just the same frame. In Wait For Sleep, which I figure has to do with the girl on the cover, it says: God give me the power to take breath from a breeze And call life from a cold metal frame
I had always thought that she was holding a picture frame containing the picture of someone she loved who had died. This is my interpretation. What do you thing?
Also I was always curious about this. In QR's song Anybody Listening? There is a line which stood out for me.
Is there anyone who smiles without a mask? What's behind the word - images they know will please us?
Empire was released in 1990 and IAW was recorded in 1991. Did DT get the idea of Images and Words from this bit from QR? I've always been curious about that. If anyone has thoughts on this please let me know what you think....
Tony Maglia ajm6@lehigh.edu
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Topic No. 24
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 17:33:28 -0400 (EDT) From: James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: The Mirror (lyrics) Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9410111728.A27528-a100000@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
OK, You guys might think i'm crazy but I think one possible interpretation of "The Mirror" concerns casual sex! Perhaps Mike P. feels like he has betrayed himself as well as a trusting girl friend. I know a couple of girls that DT invited to their hotel after a show in Orange Park, FL. When these girls told me this, I said: "Oh wow! Where are they staying? Are they having an after show party or something?" The girl replied: "Well, they (DT) said 'not to tell any guys'."
"The Mirror" might have been inspired by months of groupie patronizing while on Images & Tour! Perhaps Mike P. started to feel guilty and decided to look the problem right in the eye (himself in the mirror).
What do you guys think??? Who knows??? Later, Jay Peele (INFERNO) jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu
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Topic No. 25
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 17:53:15 -0400 (EDT) From: James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: 4 favorites from Awake Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9410111715.A27528-8100000@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
Start posting your 4 favorites from Awake! Hey - What the hell? Why not? Mine: 1. Scarred 2. Voices 3. Space Dye Vest 4. The Mirror
It's cool, it's cool!!
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Topic No. 26
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 17:18:23 -0500 (CDT) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Repeating themes Message-ID: <199410112218.RAA11419@galaxy.galstar.com>
Hey... I was just listening to the CD and I think I MIGHT have found a repeated theme... is the part of Scarred that goes "And how come you don't understand me" the same melody at the start of LSoaD?
Has anyone found any others besides the Eroto/SM and Mirror/SDV repeats?
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