YTSEJAM Digest 504
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 502
by gmsanbo@chopin.udel.edu (BIG G)
2) Dream Theater touring info!!
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
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by
4) Space Dye Vest
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 503
by SVanHooser@aol.com
6) Compuserve stuff....
by Jason Breitweg <jbreitwe@lobelia.physics.wisc.edu>
7) Re: Lie
by Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 497
by greg@hal.tor.canisc.ibm.com (Greg "Big Brother" Lee)
9) Innocence Faded - DT haven't change!
by Kaoru Kobayashi <GCH06672@niftyserve.or.jp>
10) More from AWAKE on the web site
by buffalo@panix.com (C-man)
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 503
by Mozo21@aol.com
12) LIE PROMO CD
by TIM LODGE - SGA SENATOR/PRE-LAW/MICRO/MAC LABS <LODGE_TIM@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>
13) SHOULD I SCAN LIE PROMO?
by TIM LODGE - SGA SENATOR/PRE-LAW/MICRO/MAC LABS <LODGE_TIM@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>
14) Awake stuff...
by StmpyJCat@aol.com
15) Re: Lie cd single
by StmpyJCat@aol.com
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Topic No. 1
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 10:39:55 EDT
From: gmsanbo@chopin.udel.edu (BIG G)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 502
Message-ID: <199409021439.KAA08339@chopin.udel.edu>
On Sep 1, 8:45pm, Ken Higginson wrote:
} Hey, anyone who subscribes to Guitar World got a wicked bonus in their
} last issue:
}
} A KILLER Dream Theater sticker... etc etc
Anyone know if this is in the newsstand edition?
G
-- | "I once could see but | Garrett M. Sanborne |"The mess and the magic,| | now at last I'm blind" | gmsanbo@chopin.udel.edu | triumphant and tragic" | | -- Dream Theater | Univ. of Delaware | -- Rush | | "Love is the dance of Eternity." - Dream Theater, Metropolis Part One |------------------------------
Topic No. 2
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 08:19:33 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Dream Theater touring info!! Message-ID: <199409021519.IAA08753@bud.indirect.com>
WHEN is Dream Theater playing Los Angeles? It was near the end of September right?
See, a local radio station here in AZ (97.9 KUPD Phoenix) is putting together their annual superconcert on 10/1/94, called U-Fest. They have already announced the presence of Lucy's Fur Coat, Meat Puppets, Gin Blossoms, Sepultura, and a bevy of smaller bands. However they announced this morning that they were trying tog et Dream Theater for the headlining spot!!
What I want to know is, is this even possible? Do they have a chance? Based on where DT is at the time, they just might.. but I'd like to know more info if it's out there...
Mike Bahr, marabout@genesis.mc.maricopa.edu, garion@indirect.com
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Topic No. 3
Also, how many people out there are in the Boston area? As long as everyone else seems to be already planning for a DT show... we might as well also plan... :) -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Caught In A Web | | Numb from the world | | Hanging on by a thread | | Scared of the life that fights in my head | | Dream Theater Caught In A Web Awake | | release date for Dream Theater's Awake: October 4, 1994 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Michael Burstin Brandeis University | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
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Topic No. 4
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 11:28:38 -0500 (EDT) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam SERVER) Subject: Space Dye Vest Message-ID: <199409021528.LAA10039@rasp.cs.brandeis.edu>
Well, the controversy over SDV is over... It is NOT an instrumental song... How do I know? I just downloaded the .MP2 file from ftp.music.net and am listening as I type.
The file is not the entire song, it is only about 55 seconds of the song... It sounds VERY different from ANYTHING that I have heard from DT before. It is a very mellow song, but there is something in the background, which I can't tell if it is distortion or part of the song, but there is an incredibly deep reoccuring sound that almost sounds like a water pump or something like that in the background.
I don't really thinik that anyone will be able to make a judgement about SDV for a while, b/c it cuts off so early, and you can hear someone (perhapse Kevin) start some lyrics as the song cuts off... Obviously, especially with DT, you cant really tell anything about a song hearning only 55 seconds of it... -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Caught In A Web | | Numb from the world | | Hanging on by a thread | | Scared of the life that fights in my head | | Dream Theater Caught In A Web Awake | | release date for Dream Theater's Awake: October 4, 1994 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Michael Burstin Brandeis University | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
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Topic No. 5
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 94 11:50:45 EDT From: SVanHooser@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 503 Message-ID: <9409021150.tn194485@aol.com>
<<< I believe that Dream Theater, Fates Warning and Yngwie Malmsteen among others will be performing there September 22-24 >>>
Anyone know when Dream Theater will be playing? I'm moving to Pasadena on the 19th, but I'll be occupied until the afternoon on 23rd. Too bad LA public transportation bites! :)
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Topic No. 6
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 94 11:21:46 CDT From: Jason Breitweg <jbreitwe@lobelia.physics.wisc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Compuserve stuff.... Message-ID: <9409021715.AA20367@anthor.arastar.com>
Hi all,
Nobody here has been talking much about the guys from DT being on Compuserve on Sept. 8. Does anything know anymore about this. Since I don't have Compuserve access I was wondering if there is anyone out there on the list in Madison, WI that is going to witness this interview and would invite me into their home so that I could also watch it?
Also about that cool sticker that is in Guitar World magazine....is this sticker only available to those ppl that subscribe? If so does anyone know the phone number to Guitar World magazine so that I could maybe call and request a sticker?
Also what does the band Solitude Aeturnus sound like?
Thanx for any help ppl can give me.
Jason
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jason T. Breitweg Internet: jbreitwe@lobelia.physics.wisc.edu | | | | The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel | | | | - "Neuromancer" | | William Gibson | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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Topic No. 7
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 14:25:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>, Subject: Re: Lie Message-ID: <YiNqslG00bk2Ac80Z6@andrew.cmu.edu>
Okay, I finally downloaded it and gave it a listen.
The problem: Way too little keys. I don't mind them sounding a bit grungish (I don't think it's all that bad, and it's more of a production thing than compositional, and James's singing is not very grungy), and it doesn't bother me too much that it's simpler than most of the stuff from I&W (It's still technically impressive, it's just one song, no indication the whole album will be like that.) But the lack of keyboards really bothers me. Maybe they're there doing subtle things that I can't hear because of the poor sound quality. I hope so. I also thought maybe the last solo might be keys and guitars, but it's very hard to tell on the .wav and I think it's probably just guitar. Which is very disappointing.
I don't...I always sort of considered Kev and John P. to be the leaders of the band, primarily because they play the lead instruments and write most of the lyrics. Without Kevin, I'm afraid Petrucci might dominate. Which would not be bad at all (I consider J.P. a bit of a genius, lyrically and compositionally), but it also wouldn't be Dream Theater. I hope the lack of keys on this song isn't an indication of things to come.
Okay, good things about the song...I find it rhythmically interesting throughout, and the ending is fantastic (would be better with more keys, obviously.) John's solo closing the thing is really spectacular and adds a dimension that the song is lacking for the first four minutes. I like it a lot...just wish there were more keys. I also recognized pup in there...I'm hoping it'll show up elsewhere on the album, like when Mike said there would be some musical themes present throughout. I expect to hear it (in a more recognizable form) on 6:00... I hope so, anyway, cuz it's really cool.
Oh well...that's all for now.
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Topic No. 8
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 94 9:57:14 EDT From: greg@hal.tor.canisc.ibm.com (Greg "Big Brother" Lee) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 497 Message-ID: <9409021357.AA106305@hal.tor.canisc.ibm.com>
> >> I just read in the AOL Dixie Dregs folder that Jordan Rudes has replaced > T Lavitz for their current tour. Anyone? << > > Yes, I've heard this too, at least for a few gigs in Florida. But > according to hard information on alt.music.deep-purple last week Steve > Morse also has joined Deep Purple so I've no idea what's going on! :)
Hold on...I heard an interview sometime in the winter (I was just finished skating, so it must have been winter) that Joe Satriani was going to play with Deep Purple. This was in an interview with Ian Gillan...it is Ian isn't it? I always get the Gillan's mixed up!
Later!
Greg.
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Topic No. 9
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 1994 05:27:00 JST From: Kaoru Kobayashi <GCH06672@niftyserve.or.jp> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Innocence Faded - DT haven't change! Message-ID: <199409022033.FAA16193@inetnif.niftyserve.or.jp>
Hi! Now I just heard Innocence Faded from Awake on the radio! I'm VERY impressed by it! It is pleasant ballade, like....Another Hand, I guess. Some part of it sounds like Journey. Very simple, but very beautiful. ..mmm... I can't express well... But, I find they never lost their sensibility like on I&W. I think we can't judge Awake by only Lie. Perhaps some songs have new venture but some songs take over I&W. I want to be open-minded for both songs. They accept Lie on first single and it's risk for them, however, if they accept a song like on I&W they become fixing their image, I guess. I don't want to part 2 of I&W. I love it very much, but suppose they have many more ideas than on I&W. If Awake is filled with songs like Lie, I can't understand it but I think they have more different kind of songs on Awake. :) Jonathan Larkowski<larkows3@nes.nersc.gov> wrote: >Anyway, I must say that the song did not impress me to much at first. >But after listening to it a couple 40 times or so. I have a better feel >for it. >All I can say to everyone who's going to hear Lie for the first time in a >little bit is that you should not judge it right away. If I had quit >listening to I&W when I hated it, I wouldn't be the extreme DT fan I am today
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Topic No. 10
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 16:47:41 -0400 From: buffalo@panix.com (C-man) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: More from AWAKE on the web site Message-ID: <aa8cfd9c0102100284e8@[198.7.7.109]>
OK. Sorry for the delay but you'll find a couple of files (60 sec of "Erotomania" and 15 sec of a gtr blaze from "Erotomania") at the ftp and web site of music.net (ftp.music.net; the web site is listed below)
C man
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Topic No. 11
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 94 21:50:32 EDT From: Mozo21@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 503 Message-ID: <9409022150.tn227781@aol.com>
Hey Jens!
How about a Lane/Johansson collaborration??
Andy
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Topic No. 12
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 22:26:31 -0400 (EDT) From: TIM LODGE - SGA SENATOR/PRE-LAW/MICRO/MAC LABS <LODGE_TIM@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: LIE PROMO CD Message-ID: <940902222631.2024a53a@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>
Hello; I know some people have already posted about the details of the LIE promo cd...but I actually bOUGHT it tonight in my favorite boot shop! They had one copy......it is the digipack version..and i agree..the cover is awesomme...it would be cool if AWAKE had ta similiar cover to it. anyway you have to hear this song is all of its CD quality glory...even the 11:1 MPEG doesnt come close to the quality of this.
Also, what does everyone think of SDV? the one min is not enough! i need more!
Tim
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Topic No. 13
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 1994 0:07:23 -0400 (EDT) From: TIM LODGE - SGA SENATOR/PRE-LAW/MICRO/MAC LABS <LODGE_TIM@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: SHOULD I SCAN LIE PROMO? Message-ID: <940903000723.202619d7@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>
Hey peoples...I have the LIE PROMO CD and I have access to a full color scanner......if anybody wants me to, i can scan in the front, back, and the inside pictures from the promo cd.
tim
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Topic No. 14
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 94 11:08:45 EDT From: StmpyJCat@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Awake stuff... Message-ID: <9409031108.tn247581@aol.com>
Okay! I've heard it through dozens of times now and without spoiling it for everyone I WILL say that you'll be more than satisfied with this album. Heavier, darker, but with plenty of riffing/jamming. This is not I & W, the sequel but, hey, this is STILL Dream Theater. You won't be disappointed. I'm totally obsessing on this album and can't take it out of the tape deck.
StmpyJCat
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Topic No. 15
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 94 11:08:52 EDT From: StmpyJCat@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Lie cd single Message-ID: <9409031108.tn247585@aol.com>
I assume that the download of the single is the same as the radio version so you may be interested to know that there is a *slight* difference between the single and the way the tune appears on the album.
On the album The Mirror runs right into Lie so that the tunes almost become a two-part song. The end of Mirror is a nice instrumental that segues perfectly into Lie. The difference is that the single has that drum break that opens the song but is NOT on the album!
Stimp
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