YTSEJAM Digest 531
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: What REALLY happened to Kevin?
by freak@salyko.cube.net (Alex Reinelt)
2) Re: La Villa BBS
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
3) Re: Lie on the radio- Finally!
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
4) Chicago Tour Dates
by rby965@nwu.edu (Russ Yuncker)
5) Re: What REALLY happened to Kevin?
by Atsushi Kawami <kawami@ae.keio.ac.jp>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 530
by I W Turner (Technician) <I.W.Turner@teesside.ac.uk>
7) Re:what really happened to Kevin?
by Kaoru Kobayashi <GCH06672@niftyserve.or.jp>
8) Why Lie Was the First Single
by "james (j.) wolf" <jwolf@bnr.ca>
9) Re: What REALLY happened to Kevin?
by polzin edward george <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
10) Re: Jordan and DT...
by "Mark A. Parker" <parkerma@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu>
11) Denver DT
by DAVID E WRUCK <dewruck@ouray.Denver.Colorado.EDU>
12) SDV
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
13) Re: What REALLY happened to Kevin?
by <okuda@active.elcom.nitech.ac.jp>
14) A couple of things..
by Timo Haanp{{ UPR <thaanpaa@ra.abo.fi>
15) November 1994 GFTPM
by "James Studnicki (HON)" <studnick@soleil.acomp.usf.edu>
16) Keyboardist selection
by Colin Stackhouse <stackhou@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
17) Re: Awake
by Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
18) Re: What REALLY happened to Kevin?
by polzin edward george <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
19) Re: Keyboardist selection
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
20) DT and Q104
by Rohit Modak <rmm30@columbia.edu>
21) Re: SDV
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
22) Re: Awake
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
23) Kevin rejoining DT
by hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
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Topic No. 1
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 94 12:15:58 MET
From: freak@salyko.cube.net (Alex Reinelt)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: What REALLY happened to Kevin?
Message-ID: <m0qpwzO-0000w3C@cubnt1.cube.net>
> Kev's leaving is only a defference of Musical direction between Kev and
> rest of them. But They didn't mention about what kind of music Kev is
> devoted to. I'm feeling uneasy what should I do, if he is devoted to
As far as my information goes Kevin wants to do a bit more an industrial
project...you can already hear some industrial sounds on SDV...
bye, Freak
( Alexander Reinelt from Munich/Germany
) freak@cube.net Alex_Reinelt@2:2480/66
( fax: 49-89-689 18 71 mobile phone & tape: 49-171-622 03 40
) "Here before me is my soul...I'm learning to live" (Dream Theater)
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Topic No. 2
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 07:06:33 -0500 (CDT)
From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: La Villa BBS
Message-ID: <199409281206.HAA12903@galaxy.galstar.com>
> Well, if anyone is still doing the old BBS thing (I know the
> internet has a way of dominating one's life) I would like to invite one
> and all on the Ytsejam digest to call my board.
I'm a sysop... ya'll can call my BBS, 918-455-8399... however not much to
do with DT.
> BBS Name: La Villa Strangiato
> BBS Number: 602-732-1239
> Internet access:
cool name!
>
> telnet acssdial.inre.asu.edu
> ATX4DT8W7321239 after connecting.
could you email me about this... (like, how to set this type of thing up?)
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Topic No. 3
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 07:04:06 -0500 (CDT)
From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Lie on the radio- Finally!
Message-ID: <199409281204.HAA12895@galaxy.galstar.com>
>
>
> Just heard it. It's about time considering the album's
> out next week!
>
> They played the pup, I mean *The Mirror*, outro part at the
> end. This isn't on the single version, is it? If not,
> then it's cool that they're playing it off the album
> instead. Perhaps, then, some people won't dismiss it as just
> [non-progressive] metal as a lot of us did at first.
>
> Zach (glad I got my CD deck back from the shop this week-
> and wondering where I'll drive to next Tuesday...)
>
>
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Topic No. 4
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 09:17:54 -0500
From: rby965@nwu.edu (Russ Yuncker)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Chicago Tour Dates
Message-ID: <199409281417.AA232161874@lulu.acns.nwu.edu>
Does anyone know the concert dates for the Chicago area?
Thanks in advance :)
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Topic No. 5
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 94 23:28:02 +0900
From: Atsushi Kawami <kawami@ae.keio.ac.jp>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: What REALLY happened to Kevin?
Message-ID: <9409281428.AA00766@lexus.ae.keio.ac.jp>
Hi,from Japan to all freaks
"Eugene E. Szucs" <SZUCSEUE@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu> wrote,
> My brother who works at this music store in Cinci. just told me that he
> read an article in "Foundations" magazine that stated Kevin Moore did not
> quit
> DT, he was fired!! Is there any validation to this statement?
A few days ago,I heard the interview of John Petruci on the radio.
In the interview he said about Kevin.
According to him for last some years Kevin was fascinated by the
computerized music and industrialized music and so on...
So he sometimes looked boring and scamping his work in the live.
Because they were close friends each other since a long time ago,
Kevin was worried about what to do. But after serious consideration he
decided to leave the DT.
John Petrucci said that his decision is for mutual benefit and
DT will be able to play live concert better than ever.
Hearing that,I got sad because I think talented persons can create
excellent matter by joining hands. Therefore marvelous works like
WDADU and I&W may not be created from now on.
But no one can change another person's mind compulsorily.
The responsibility lies with nobody.
I'm lucky because I was born in the same period as united DT.
Thanks all band members.....
bye
P.S. gimme your opinion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Kawami Atsushi (E-Mail: kawami@ae.keio.ac.jp)
Kawashima Lab. Department of Administrative Engineering
Faculty of Science and Technology, Keio University
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Topic No. 6
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 94 15:51:01 BST
From: I W Turner (Technician) <I.W.Turner@teesside.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 530
Message-ID: <920.9409281451@slc11>
If anyone has a PAL copy of the Rush video montage that was offered a
while ago I'd really like to get a copy....
I'll pay or trade or whatever........
Ian.
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Topic No. 7
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 00:42:00 JST
From: Kaoru Kobayashi <GCH06672@niftyserve.or.jp>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re:what really happened to Kevin?
Message-ID: <199409281543.AAA12959@inetnif.niftyserve.or.jp>
Tsuyoshi Okuda <okuda@active.elcom.nitech.ac.jp> wrote on digest 530:
> Japanese Radio and HeavyMetal Magazin are reporting that the reason of
>Kev's leaving is only a defference of Musical direction between Kev and
>rest of them. But They didn't mention about what kind of music Kev is
>devoted to. I'm feeling uneasy what should I do, if he is devoted to
>some kind of glundge music. I like him because his merodyline is so beau-
>tiful, e.g. 'Wait for sleep', and his progressive sence, e.g. 'Only a matter
>of time'. I'm wondering whether the rest of them are able to find a genius
>Keyboard player like Kev.
> anyone who know about this here?
Yes, I know some reasons why Kevin left.... New interview was broadcasted
on the redio recently.... I was VERY shocked.....
John P. told about Kevin's leaving and recent Kevin. According to John,
Kevin's liking became not progressive music or heavy metal. Now he is fond
of techno(I don't know how to say in English. I meant Kraftwark or Buggles
type music.) or industrial music... There are some songs without Kevin's
eagerness and input on Awake, John explained.
John also said that now Kevin is not at all interested in progressive/heavy
music like DT's.
I'm very sad... I love all songs Kevin composed... I really respected his
genius for music, which could expresses many kinds of emotion....
I wrote down this interview on the online I use in Japanese. I couldn't
translate it, but now I'm thinking of sending a copy of these interview
tapes to people who orderd me Awake.(Please don't ask me more about this
matter.)Perhaps I can send it with Awake, so please hear it and tell what
you think.
Or I hope other Japanese Ytsejammer(I know some Japanese subscribed here
recently. :) tell about it. But it was a long interview....
Thanks, bye for now...
************************************************************************
* " If spirit's a sign, then it's only a matter of time. " *
* Kaoru Kobayashi gch06672@niftyserve.or.jp (from Japan) *
***********************************************************************
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Topic No. 8
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 11:05:00 -0500
From: "james (j.) wolf" <jwolf@bnr.ca>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Why Lie Was the First Single
Message-ID: <"15769 Wed Sep 28 12:05:12 1994"@bnr.ca>
I think I know why Lie was chosen as the first single. Keep in mind when
you read this that my ideas and those of record execs. tend to conflict since
they are businessmen interested in making quick bucks and have little to no
idea why we like DT, nor do they care. As a result, one of a record exec.'s
major philosophies is cloning/formula-making; i.e. if something sells then
find as many clones of that formula as you can and saturate the market (which
is why it is so hard to find innovative music like DT).
Along these lines, I think Lie was chosen because of that Henry Rollins song
about lying (I don't know the title) that was on M(shi)TV all the time for a
while. I think some record exec. decided that since, ON THE SURFACE, Lie is
heavy and about lying like the Rollins tune, that it would make the record
execs. the most money.
----------------------
Wolfman
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Topic No. 9
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 13:10:05 -0500 (CDT)
From: polzin edward george <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: What REALLY happened to Kevin?
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.90.940928130649.23791B-100000@eehpx4.cen.uiuc.edu>
I agree that DT may not be able to produce as great works as WDADU and
I&W without Kevin. I'm glad that he was on awake and I will still
support DT. Does anyone know when DT is coming to the Chicago area?
Please email me privately to: polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu
Thank you.
On Wed, 28 Sep 1994, Atsushi Kawami wrote:
>
> Hi,from Japan to all freaks
>
> "Eugene E. Szucs" <SZUCSEUE@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu> wrote,
>
> > My brother who works at this music store in Cinci. just told me that he
> > read an article in "Foundations" magazine that stated Kevin Moore did not
> > quit
> > DT, he was fired!! Is there any validation to this statement?
>
>
> A few days ago,I heard the interview of John Petruci on the radio.
> In the interview he said about Kevin.
>
> According to him for last some years Kevin was fascinated by the
> computerized music and industrialized music and so on...
> So he sometimes looked boring and scamping his work in the live.
> Because they were close friends each other since a long time ago,
> Kevin was worried about what to do. But after serious consideration he
> decided to leave the DT.
> John Petrucci said that his decision is for mutual benefit and
> DT will be able to play live concert better than ever.
>
> Hearing that,I got sad because I think talented persons can create
> excellent matter by joining hands. Therefore marvelous works like
> WDADU and I&W may not be created from now on.
> But no one can change another person's mind compulsorily.
> The responsibility lies with nobody.
>
> I'm lucky because I was born in the same period as united DT.
> Thanks all band members.....
>
> bye
> P.S. gimme your opinion.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Kawami Atsushi (E-Mail: kawami@ae.keio.ac.jp)
> Kawashima Lab. Department of Administrative Engineering
> Faculty of Science and Technology, Keio University
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
>
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Topic No. 10
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 12:50:02 -0500
From: "Mark A. Parker" <parkerma@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Jordan and DT...
Message-ID: <199409281750.MAA00411@o231-01.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu>
>What about Yes's keyboardist.... sure he's old, but he can really rock
>when he has to. :)
Rick Wakeman has said that it is unlikely he will be going
out on tour anymore, due to health reasons.
Dom'ny
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Topic No. 11
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 14:43:22 -0600 (MDT)
From: DAVID E WRUCK <dewruck@ouray.Denver.Colorado.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Denver DT
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.90.940928144035.28990A-100000@ouray>
Colorado - Dream Theatre tickeys go on sale Monday Oct. 3 for the
November 22 show at Mammoth Events Center. It's being presented by
TicketBastard so prices might be alittle expensive. Are we going to have
a preshow get together? ---Dave
P.S opening band is I Mother Earth
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Topic No. 12
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 13:52:27 PDT
From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: SDV
Message-ID: <199409282052.NAA02536@netcom13.netcom.com>
Well, after listening to SDV many many times... I don't see any reason why
it can't be played live... what a cop out... Another thing is, those of
you on the IRC session heard that they WON'T be playing the Killing Hand
live...
Well, as far as I'm concerned, there are no songs on Awake that are on par
with Learning to Live, Metropolis, or the Killing Hand...
Although SDV is a pretty good song...
-The Doc
-- #$%*#$*@ Real: drkhoe@netcom.com + Virtual: drkhoe@gnu.ai.mit.edu *@#$*@#$ *#$*@#$* The Dream Theater Archives: ftp.netcom.com: /pub/drkhoe/dt &*@#$*@$ **%^$#$% WWW: "ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/drkhoe/www/dthome.html" #$**@#*$ *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$------------------------------
Topic No. 13
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 94 06:19:49 +0900 From: <okuda@active.elcom.nitech.ac.jp> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: What REALLY happened to Kevin? Message-ID: <9409282119.AA08486@active.elcom.nitech.ac.jp>
Hi.
"polzin edward george" <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu> wrote, > I agree that DT may not be able to produce as great works as WDADU and > I&W without Kevin. I'm glad that he was on awake and I will still > support DT. Does anyone know when DT is coming to the Chicago area? > Please email me privately to: polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu
Wait, wait! We should not think so easily. We must think more. I don't think that Kev was the only one who has progressive sence in the band. Rest of the members are also good composer and surely have progressive sence. You guys (and me) who love Kev's beautiful keyboad sound, has a tendency to think that DT-sound is completely depend on Kev. But it can't be that. Remember that most of all songs are indicated 'music(or Images) by DreamTheater'. DreamTheater is not Kev, A set of 5 geneus musician are DreamTheater!
..Anyway I can't wait for AWAKE!!! thanks.
###### Tsuyoshi Okuda <Internet: okuda@motion.elcom.nitech.ac.jp> ### ##### 'God give me the power to take breath from a breeze ###### ###### And call life from a cold metal frame.' ######## ##### <Dream Theater:Wait for sleep> ####
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Topic No. 14
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 23:25:57 +0200 (EET) From: Timo Haanp{{ UPR <thaanpaa@ra.abo.fi> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: A couple of things.. Message-ID: <199409282125.XAA28340@aton.abo.fi>
Of all the songs on Awake, I think "Lifting Shadows" might be the song to make this album a success. It's U-2ish, it has a very catchy melody, it's not structurally complex (like Innocence Faded!). It really has commercial potential, at least in Europe, I'm not too familiar with the US music scene.
I've REALLY REALLY begun to like "The Mirror." I usually like the softer side of DT (Wait for Sleep was my favorite off I&W), but somehow this one appeals to me a lot. I like the lyrics. Maybe it's because being a Finn I don't understand most of the other stuff :). I like the melody, especially the "Look in the mirror my friend" line. It really says a *lot*.
Wasn't ACoS Portnoy's, too? Maybe they should let him do more writing...
-- Timo Haanpaa + "I'll always remember the chill of November; the noose Finland + of the fall; the sounds in the hall; the clock on the thaanpaa@aton.abo.fi + wall ticking away." (Dream Theater: A Change of Seasons)
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Topic No. 15
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 17:26:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "James Studnicki (HON)" <studnick@soleil.acomp.usf.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: November 1994 GFTPM Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90a.940928172414.15882A-100000@soleil>
For anyone interested, John P. is gracing the cover of the November issue of Guitar For The Practicing Musician. He's interviewed by John Stix and talks about DT, the new record, etc.
Just thought you'd all like to know.
Jim Studnicki studnick@soleil.acomp.usf.edu University of South Florida Tampa, Florida, USA
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Topic No. 16
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 15:57:49 -0600 (MDT) From: Colin Stackhouse <stackhou@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Keyboardist selection Message-ID: <199409282157.PAA17365@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
Why didn't they just choose Mr. Viv Savage?
"Like I said- Free Geronimo Pratt" -Chuck D.
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Topic No. 17
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 18:26:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: Awake Message-ID: <AiWSqe_00iV90_Ackm@andrew.cmu.edu>
Excerpts from mail: 27-Sep-94 Re: Awake by William Wright@galaxy.ga > I thought someone said Pup was Eroto... oh well.
well, pup might be in eroto (don't remember) but it's most easily recognized in the Mirror (where it's almost exactly the way they played it on tour.)
> > > Scarred - Really long, really good. A lot like A Change of Seasons > > or Learning to Live. This is the kind of thing most of us listen > > to Dream Theater for. > > How long?
I don't know. Felt like over ten minutes, but I was listening to a tape and not looking at a clock.
> > > Web, i think of other awesome choruses like fata Morgana and Exodus. > > Cool! I really enjoyed those songs from Awaken! :)
Well, they don't really sound a whole lot like Awaken, just reminded me of it.
max ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I understand mine's a risky plan and your system can't miss but is security after all a cause or symptom of happiness? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Topic No. 18
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 18:52:30 -0500 (CDT) From: polzin edward george <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: What REALLY happened to Kevin? Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.90.940928184728.26272A-100000@eehpx4.cen.uiuc.edu>
On Wed, 28 Sep 1994 okuda@active.elcom.nitech.ac.jp wrote:
> Hi. > > "polzin edward george" <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu> wrote, > > > I agree that DT may not be able to produce as great works as WDADU and > > I&W without Kevin. I'm glad that he was on awake and I will still > > support DT. Does anyone know when DT is coming to the Chicago area? > > Please email me privately to: polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu > > Wait, wait! We should not think so easily. We must think more. I don't think > that Kev was the only one who has progressive sence in the band. Rest of the > members are also good composer and surely have progressive sence. You guys > (and me) who love Kev's beautiful keyboad sound, has a tendency to think > that DT-sound is completely depend on Kev. But it can't be that. Remember that > most of all songs are indicated 'music(or Images) by DreamTheater'. > DreamTheater is not Kev, A set of 5 geneus musician are DreamTheater!
Yes but they were a 5 genius musician TEAM. They sounded great together and I'm just afraid that Dream Theater just won't be the team they were. Maybe they'll be an even tighter team now (even though I can't see it). That's just my opinion though.
> ..Anyway I can't wait for AWAKE!!! thanks. > Yes. me too. Talk to you later.
Better to save the mystery, then surrender to the secret. -Dream Theater
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Topic No. 19
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 19:11:25 -0500 (CDT) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Keyboardist selection Message-ID: <199409290011.TAA16623@galaxy.galstar.com>
> "Like I said- Free Geronimo Pratt" > -Chuck D.
Why did Dominici say that?? Is he in the mofia?
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Topic No. 20
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 23:20:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Rohit Modak <rmm30@columbia.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: DT and Q104 Message-ID: <Pine.3.89C.9409282344.A21792-0100000@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu>
Here in New York, Q104 is giving away copies of Awake this weekend and tickets to the show in the Manhattan Center. Grand prize is (as usual) that you get to go backstage, meet the band, and get an autographed guitar. It's been at least a month since I won anything on the station (at least won something and used my name.....last time I won Awake and 4 other CD's using a roommate's name). Therefore I'm eligible again. But of course, if I don't win, I want to be able to get tickets. Does anyone know when they go on sale (in NY)? Are shows selling out around the country, or are there still tickets available?
__________________________________________________________________________ Rohit Modak rmm30@columbia.edu
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Topic No. 21
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 94 20:55:38 PDT From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: SDV Message-ID: <9409290355.AA20124@fas2.lsil.com>
> From ytsejam@arastar.com Wed Sep 28 16:40:25 1994 > Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 16:02:58 +0800 > Reply-To: ytsejam@arastar.com > Originator: ytsejam@arastar.com > Sender: ytsejam@arastar.com > From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh) > > > Well, after listening to SDV many many times... I don't see any reason why > it can't be played live...
I agree there.
>what a cop out...
Well, I don't know about that.
>Another thing is, those of you on the IRC session heard that they >WON'T be playing the Killing Hand live...
That sucks, but maybye they'll play the entire album (sans SDV) like they did on the last tour. > Well, as far as I'm concerned, there are no songs on Awake that are on par > with Learning to Live, Metropolis, or the Killing Hand...
What!? I must be in a minority, because I think Awake is better than IAW. It doesn't blow it away, but I think it sounds more coherent and thoughtful. The subtilties on Awake blow me away.
When I got the tape (thanks, Tim!), I told my buddy that I thought it was better than IAW. Big mistake. He said something like "No fuckin' way!" When we listened to it together, I could see that he wasn't too impressed, but because of my comment combined with his preconceived notion, I saw he wasn't listening to it as attentively as he should have. He thought 6:00 sucked! Bastard. > Although SDV is a pretty good song...
That's the understatement of the year! > > -The Doc
You suprise me Doc. I would've thought you'd like this album better since you're such a Fates Warning advocate. Care to expound on what you don't like about it as much? Someone said before that they thought Erotomania wandered too much, but after 20+ listens, I think it's a brilliant compositional piece--- certainly no Ytse' Jam, but it's a lot more refined and is a lot more complex.
Zach
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Topic No. 22
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 94 22:06:40 PDT From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Awake Message-ID: <9409290506.AA20146@fas2.lsil.com>
> From ytsejam@arastar.com Wed Sep 28 17:35:04 1994 > Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 16:55:08 +0800 > Reply-To: ytsejam@arastar.com > Originator: ytsejam@arastar.com > Sender: ytsejam@arastar.com > From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU> > Excerpts from mail: 27-Sep-94 > Re: Awake by William Wright@galaxy.ga > > > I thought someone said Pup was Eroto... oh well. > > well, pup might be in eroto (don't remember) but it's most easily > recognized in the Mirror (where it's almost exactly the way they played > it on tour.)
The beginning of The Mirror *is* pup. The rest of the song is based on it, as is the solo at the end of Lie. > > > > > Scarred - Really long, really good. A lot like A Change of Seasons > > > or Learning to Live. This is the kind of thing most of us listen > > > to Dream Theater for. > > > > How long? > > I don't know. Felt like over ten minutes, but I was listening to a tape and > not looking at a clock.
Approximately 10:42 seconds. I guess this is the equivalent of LTL on this album. > > max
Zach
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Topic No. 23
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 01:48:41 -0400 (EDT) From: hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Kevin rejoining DT Message-ID: <199409290548.BAA17524@umbc9.umbc.edu>
Has anyone else ever given any thought to the possiblity of Kev rejoining the band? I mean I can see where he may have gotten bored with everything because they had been touring for over 1 year and then went right back into the studio. Maybe he didn't feel like going through that cycle again.
Maybe after sitting home alone and seeing the rest of the guys making lots of money, playing all over the world, getting lots of publicity, and most importantly, having fun playing music, maybe he will want to get back into it? Maybe he would come back after this tour?
I would be the 1st in line to buy a Kevin Moore solo album. He was my favorite part of the band. I just don't think that he could make any type of career out of it. I think a Kevin Moore solo album would sell less copies than WDADU or even the Majesty Demos for that matter. :)
I guess I still can't get over the fact that he left. I had finally found a band that I could call my favorite. I was finally a fanatic. Finding out that Kevin was leaving was like breaking up a long romance or getting a divorce. I still can't deal with it...
I want my Kevin back!
"Brooklyn" - Kevin Moore when asked where he wanted to be in 5 years.
************************************************************************** * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu * * * * You're fighting the weight of the world, * * and no one can save you this time. * * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. * * * * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater * **************************************************************************
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