YTSEJAM Digest 796
Today's Topics:
1) DRUM! magazine quiz answer
by AirDance@aol.com
2) keyboard review
by Anthony <AKOZAR@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU>
3) sobkonshus :)
by Boo-ba Fett <jmh@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
4) Re: Kevin's demos
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
5) Re: Dream Theater & Harry Connick, Jr.
by JennieBear@aol.com
6) OTHER JAPAN VIDEO
by Scott Sneen <monkey@sawdust.cvfn.org>
7) Consciously Unreal vs Dance Of Eternity
by Mats Rydstr\vm <d94-mry@nada.kth.se>
8) Awake TAB Update
by Brandon Vaughn <EDLEADER@uwf.cc.uwf.edu>
9) A little WDADU analysis...
by "DAVE \"The New #2\" PETERSON" <GLYDE@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 795
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 795
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
12) Re: The other JAPAN video
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
13) Re: SUBCONCIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
14) Dream Theater update...
by Richard K Henley <rhenley@gac.edu>
15) Attn: Babs
by zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 795
by William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
17) stereo guitars
by zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
18) SUBCONSCOIUS thing by SPUDS
by "REASONING IS PARTLY INSANE-RUSH, ANAGRAMS"
19) Hidden songs
by Sean T Gill <stg@csd.uwm.edu>
20) re: No "Good Times" content!
by "james (j.) wolf" <jwolf@bnr.ca>
21) Scarred
by jforte@acl.nyit.edu (Jeff Forte)
22) half of the album in one song?
by Deebor@aol.com
23) Labrie's Falsetto
by SPUDS <bunkerg@rintintin.Colorado.EDU>
24) Fwd: Re: Dream Theater & Harry Connick, Jr.
by JennieBear@aol.com
25) Totally redesigned home page...
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 08:01:03 -0400
From: AirDance@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DRUM! magazine quiz answer
Message-ID: <950425080102_95429056@aol.com>
Hi everyone,
Well, we now have ten lucky winners of the free copies of DRUM! magazine
w/Mike Portnoy on the cover!
Only about twenty people total attempted to answer the question, which pretty
much shocked the hell outta me. :) Of those twenty, only ONE person got the
ENTIRE answer correct, so let's have a round of applause for Jason Hartman,
the Answer Man! :) *clap clap clap* Since no one seemed to know exactly why
DT changed the intro, I decided to be lenient & give the 'zines away to the
first ten people who answer the first part of the question correctly.
Here is a repost of the original question, followed by the answer:
Q: On the _I&W_ tour, DT added "Status Seeker" to their set list at shows
during the latter part of the tour (around April '93, if I'm not mistaken).
This new version they played live was a little different from the original,
album version (_besides_ the fact that James LaBrie was singing it instead of
Charlie :). What was different about the song and why was it altered?
A: They ditched the original intro to the song which appears on the album
version & played a new, completely different instrumental intro. And the
reason why they did this? In Mike Portnoy's own words, "because the original
intro was FUCKING GAY!!" ;) And, BTW, this new intro to "Status Seeker" was
never given an official title, they just called it "the new intro to 'Status
Seeker'." :)
I have notified all of the winners by e-mail. Congratulations folks and I
hope we can do this again sometime. :)
Take care all,
Jennifer
<airdance@aol.com>
"...something's gonna change i can feel it last night i just stayed home
alone i was tearing out the pages from my diary when a bird flew past my
head so i put them back again 'cause i knew it's alright to like the way i
feel..."
-Kevin Moore/"Sun Orange, Small"
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 11:54:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Anthony <AKOZAR@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU>
To: DT:;@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU
Subject: keyboard review
Message-ID: <01HPR6ALLRQ00018Q5@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU>
hello ytsejammers!
my reasons for writing are two-fold today...first id like o describe an
interesting "Dream Theater Moment" i had two nights ago...
i was sitting on my bed in the dorm, listening to I&W on headphones and
reading a book..."Metropolis" came on i was really getting into it...my mind
was pumbing with aural excitment....instantaneously and spontaneously, i had
this image of my neighborhood flash into my mind....it was a place with a lot
of trees on a hillside and it was fall....most of the leaves had changed colors
but were still on the trees....i thought "gosh, this is odd...that's totally
unrelated to what i was thinking...i wonder why it popped into my head" ... it
seemed to be a mystery...five minutes later when i had forgotten about it and
was back into my book, te jam section of Metropolis ended and James came back
in with the line "Before the leaves have fallen, before we lock the doors..."
My memory was instantly jarred again and the meaning of the image became plain
.. my mind anticipated what was coming in the song without me consciously
thinking of it... i got goosebumbs all over....
my second reason for writing is to give you a copy of a Keyboard review of
Awake which i promised ages ago (january i think).... it is from the Dec 94
issue. pg 28, written by Robert L. Doerschuk...
Dream Theater's new album positions the band unambiguously in the
progressive arena: John Petrucci's guitar, though still crunchy, sings more
than it cuts, which gives kevin Moore room to create textures that
complement as well as contrast. On faster material, they lock on unison
lines; even with te tempo holding steady, they build a sense of
acceleration by shifting gears from sixteenth-notes to faster triplets or
by dropping beats, as in the 7/8 passages on "Innocence Faded."
Unfortunately, much of the material falls short of the bands' ability to
perform it. "Space-dye Vest" is built around a plodding 6/8 piano motif,
with not much exploration beyond it. And Moore probably could have expanded
his timbral range on some of the more ambitious pieces, especially "Lifting
Shadows Off a Dream," with its U2 groove and rafter-rattling voclas. Dream
Theater is going through some changes; with the keyboardist gone to work on
solo projects, there is no Moore. For his successor, ex-Alice Cooper
sideman derek Sherinian, _Awake_ outlines the challenge: Help raise the
band above the limits of its virtuosty into the ralm of making serious
music. We don't need another Kansas, guys.
==================================
i think bobby should be shot.....
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Anthony Kozar "The Divine Spirit found a sublime outlet in
Univ. of Toledo that wonder of analysis, that portent of the
1042 Acad. Ctr. ideal world, that amphibian between being
akozar@UofT02.utoledo.edu and not-being, which we call the imaginary
http://www.utoledo.edu/~akozar/ root of negative unity." -- Leibniz
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 03:44:00 -0700 (MST)
From: Boo-ba Fett <jmh@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: sobkonshus :)
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.90.950425031257.1279A-100000@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
First of all, this RULES!!!! _A Change of Seasons_ is one of the best songs
I have ever heard. I can't wait till a version of this is recorded and
released. I also LOVE the covers! _O Holy Night_ is awesome, as is
_Tears_. the Beatles covers _(Golden Slumbers)/Carry That Weight/(The
End)_ is very good. BTW - isn't this 1969 rather than 1967? it is on _Abby
Road_ which came out in 1969... then again, I may be missing something...
I don't have enough experience to comment on the sound quality, so I
can't add anything here.
I do have one complaint with this CD. _Subconscous_ is too hard to
spell. Some explanation is in order. I can't spell all that well in the
first place, but I try. When I got this CD, I first listened to it while
writing a program that I had due in PASCAL. I, being the neophyte
programmer that I am, I like to use things like "myung" or "awake" or
"metropolis" as variable, type, ect names. This makes it real hard to
follow, but I enjoy it more, which is all that matters. I of course just
got this, so my latest program is littered with stuff from the CD, I used
"winter", "tears", "change", "seasons", a few more that I forget, oh
yeah, I misspelled one of the given procedure names as "Blanket" to get
an additional Kevin Moore reference (to add to the variables "kevin" and
"moore"), and my biggest problem, "subcnsious". I made this a record type,
which meant that if I messed it up somehow, it would screw up the whole
program. When I first compiled, I had an error file that was twice the
size of my program, and an average of over an error per line, all because I
can't spell subcanshis! So this should have been called something easier
to spell, like... ummm... "Boo-ba". :) Hope you didn't mind my babbling
about tangentially related topics, if you ask me, this is what makes the
ytsejam the best... (not *MY* babbling, everyone's)
Boo-ba Fett - aka John Haveman
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"But you know sometimes love can be as hard as algebra"
- S.H./J.H.
Though they did bring you THAT, you still should...
BUY Marillion's new album, _Afraid of Sunlight_, out in June/July!
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 00:03:37 PDT
From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Kevin's demos
Message-ID: <199504250703.AAA06006@netcom23.netcom.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, Marc Respass said:
>So I keep hearing about Kevin's demos and I'd really like to hear them. Can
>someone tell me where I can get them?
>
>Thanks
>
>Marc Respass
>mer@sol.iii.net
>http://www.iii.net/users/mer.html
>
>
I'm still making copies... you can email me: drkhoe@netcom.com with:
demo request
in your subject: or message body to get info on how to obtain your copy...
-The Doc
-- #$%*#$*@ REAL: drkhoe@netcom.com + VIRTUAL: drkhoe@gnu.ai.mit.edu *@#$*@#$ *$%&%#$* The Dream Theater Archives: ftp.netcom.com: /pub/dr/drkhoe/dt &*@#$*@$ **%^$#$% WWW: "ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/dr/drkhoe/www/dthome.html" #$**@#*$ *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$------------------------------
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 23:06:56 -0400 From: JennieBear@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Dream Theater & Harry Connick, Jr. Message-ID: <950423230653_93781658@aol.com>
The following appeared in Ytsejam #792:
>So what do DT and HCJ have in common? ...Not much except for incredible musical talent! I just got back from an EXCELLENT performance by Mr. Connick and his *Funk* Band. It is absolutely amazing how many different styles of music this guy can play! He has more music flowing through him than the state of Indiana. (Really!)<
Wow - I never thought I would see Harry Connick pop up on the 'Jam! I own the entire catalog, aside from "11." Seen 'im in concert once (was out of town when the "She" tour rolled around), and the guy is incredible. He's this maniac, and I mean it in the nicest possible way. He has boundless energy and creativity (like playing the strings *inside* the piano with one hand, playing the keys themselves with the other, and beating to some other rythm with his feet).
In the past he was into more of the big band jazzy sound and traveled with a complete orchestra (although the trio work from those days isn't bad, either). His latest "She" is definitely a different sound, more like funk jazz.
Yes, Dream Theater and Harry have talent... What if they played together? Weird but interesting thought, eh! :) He's kind of hammy, so maybe he'd really hit it off with Mike. <g> It's sort of amusing to picture him pounding away at the piano with the guys...
Jen -- "Could we see clearer in a virtual reality?" - Magellan "I am the beat of your pulse/the computer word made flesh" - Queensryche
jenniebear@aol.com kethry@netcom.com
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 10:49:30 +0100 From: Scott Sneen <monkey@sawdust.cvfn.org> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: OTHER JAPAN VIDEO Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9504251010.A12863-0100000-0100000-0100000@sawdust.cvfn.org>
What do ya got for a second video of the japan tour? I have the IMAGES AND WORDS tour video, but I haven't heard of any new ones. By the way, you wouldn't happen to know if they're coming out with a video for their WAKING UP THE WORLD TOUR for "Awake" would you? I saw them in Minneapolis at a night-club.We got right up front. It was sweet. So what ever you know about another video, please let me know.
"Balls and chunck is where it's at"---> Mike Portnoy
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 18:51:42 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mats Rydstr\vm <d94-mry@nada.kth.se> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Consciously Unreal vs Dance Of Eternity Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91N2.950425182346.21854B-100000@lurkers.nada.kth.se>
Hi!
I find this thread about CU very interesting. I've heard about half of it, (Metropolis - Surrounded, + three songs w/ Dominici), and I must say that I disagree somewhat with all you DoE defenders, there seem to be alot of you around. I like DoE but I don't think it always makes sense to rank it over all the other boots. Sure it has good sound, and it's in stereo, and they play ACOS, Eve, TLF, LTL etc, but I think the major disadvantage of it must be the quality of performance. (feeling the flames already). First I'd like to say that they're not bad at all, (they can't be bad I suppose since they're The Holy Gods [tm]), but I've heard much better performances by them, and I think that as Fripp put it:
"...our first priority was the spirit of the performance, not the quality of the recording..."
(note: my use of below-par refers to the persons par, not anything else. what did you think? :-))
I think that LaBrie is in below-par form, he's cracking really often and he's having a very hard time during ACOS. The lyrics don't come across at all there. He's so much better on LATM, (too bad LATM didn't have ACOS on it :-)) though I'm convinced that the upcoming EP-version of ACOS will blow everything else away! But not only LaBrie is a little out of shape sometimes, Kevin misses a whole lot of stuff on some lead-parts, I've never heard him do that on other recordings. Petrucci is about on the same level as he usually is and Mike and John seem to be probably a bit above-par, really good Myung-playing here and there. Some of the stuff is actually really amazing like Eve (great Kevin-work) and WFS with excellent LaBrie (I love the part at the end!) and of course LTL (where Kevin fucks up slightly before the intro, he's getting the wrong sound, and then messes up the intro a bit as well, but sure makes up for it during the harmony leads that are not on the album-version :-)) but I wouldn't rank DoE as 'the best DT boot by far'.
I also want crowd-noise, (not chatting though like on parts of Classic Live), and in that respect European crowds seem far better.
That's why I enjoy listening to Consciously Unreal, there's this killer-vibe there. Right from the beginning of Metropolis everyone's jumping, clapping and shouting "hey, hey, hey...", just like a crowd should do. And then there's so much singing along, I think it's great and I can easily live without the extra sound-quality.
There was a thread some time ago bout audience behavior. My feeling is that a loud, jumping, clapping audience is the best response you can get. That way you as a performer get some feedback and it enhances your performance about 100 times. Ok, when talking about DT-crowds you'll see that there are lots of people just studying fingers etc, so this might be a slightly different case than with most bands. I do feel that a bunch of people just standing there with no expression on their faces, silent, and with their arms crossed - is horrible. They COULD be enjoying themselves, but a lot of them COULD also be very bored. When a crowd is jumping around you almost KNOW that most people are enjoying themselves, it makes it a lot more fun to play, and it's easy to hear on recordings.
Well, that's just my thoughts on this subject!
Anyone agreeing with me on DoE?
/Mats
________________________________________________________________________ / Mats Rydstrom - d94-mry@nada.kth.se - http://www.nada.kth.se/~d94-mry / /-----------------------------------------------------------------------/ / "We can hope for the future, though there may not be one" - ACOS / /_______________________________________________________________________/
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 95 12:45:04 CST From: Brandon Vaughn <EDLEADER@uwf.cc.uwf.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Awake TAB Update Message-ID: <m0s3ooR-0003AYC@donews.cts.com>
Just wanted to let everyone know that Warner Bros. officially released the Awake TAB book on Monday. Don't have any more info (like ISBN number, etc.), but look for it. I'll hopefully have a copy in about a week or two, so if anyone needs specifics to order from your music stores, let me know.
Now we just need Petrucci's video (although Chris C.'s excellent video will keep me quite busy). To all guitarists who responded about TAB checking, I'm still working on OAMOT. I'll let you know when I'm finished. Anyone have ideas on transcribing drum and keyboard parts in ASCII? Thanks. Brandon Vaughn Edleader@uwf.cc.uwf.edu
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 13:06:21 -0600 (CST) From: "DAVE \"The New #2\" PETERSON" <GLYDE@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU> To: Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: A little WDADU analysis... Message-ID: <01HPR8XCJXW2004NCG@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
I was bopping in Dream Theater's newsgroup the other day and I heard a lot of good things about "When Dream and Day Unite". I mean, I've had it for a month now and maybe have listened to it about 4 or 5 times now, and had been convinced that it just didn't compare to the newer stuff. But then I read someone say on the newsgroup that WDADU was DT's BEST work!!!
That really caught me off guard. I know for a fact that his was a minority opinion and all, but I listened to it again yesterday, and a lot of Petrucci's stuff hit me for the first time. There's some good shit on there! Still, I will never like it as much as IaW or Awake due to Dominici's voice. (And he looks too much like a wuss too...). I still don't get what you guys are talking about with the farting bass and all - maybe you're listening too hard. (Maybe I just don't have a clue as to what a bass should sound like...)
Anyway, time and time again I hear that the songs on there have great potential and if they were properly produced and remastered with LaBrie's voice, it'd sell a lot more. I agree with the singer change, but what's wrong with the "producing"??? I haven't a clue as to what a badly produced album sounds like and how it compares to a well-produced one. I also noticed that DT has this "thing" about switching producers! They're completely different on all 3 albums! What's the deal with producers? Does it really make THAT much difference? Specifically, what in WDADU makes it stand out as such a horribly "produced" album?
If that's not DT content, then I don't know what is!
P.S. On the subject of the guy who was very unhappy with Kev's Demos, he does indeed have the right to influence us with his opinion. He does not have the right to claim that his opinion is anyone elses but his own however. This has been the sad song of the Internet for too long now. Just adding "IMO" makes things so much easier! Use it guys! People won't flame you then!
Eagerly awaiting a chance to hear Subconsious... .-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=. | ______ "Hmmmmmmm..." ____ ______ - David Peterson - | | /\_____\ /\ \ /\ /\___\ /\_____\ Glyde@Vax1.Mankato.msus.edu | | / /___ / / \/ / / / /\ /_/__ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=| | / /\__/\ / / / / / / / / /\____\ "The most beautiful thing that | | /_/___/ //_/___ / / /_/___/ / /_/____ this world has to offer is a | | \_____\/ \_____\ \/ \_____\/ \______\ woman's smiling face" - Me | `-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-='
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 14:10:04 -0500 From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 795 Message-ID: <v01510102abc2f4a8c402@[199.232.46.229]>
>On 791: With Fripp, Belew, Levin and Bruford, is it possible for King >Crimson to make a BAD album? Of course if its too good, it'll probably >scare (simple-mided) people away; but isn't true of almost all Progressive >music?
OK. So recommend ONE King Crimson album for me to buy. I love Yes and Rush. I have one Bruford album that's really good and what I've heard of Levin I liked. I'm just afraid that I won't be into it so I want the best recommedation :). Thanks
>For anyone interested, the quotation in my signature is from a book by Ayn >Rand, who, as I have heard, had a significant influence on the much-read >Neal Peart and the lyrics on Rush's '2112' (Ask Uncle Joe at KLOS (Los >Angeles, 95.5 FM). > >--Randall L. Braun > >It felt like the impossible attempt to create a sensory image of non-existence > --AYN RAND, Atlas Shrugged >
I read Atlas Shrugged ( great fucking book. Check out http://rpinfo.its.rpi.edu:80/~pier1/phil/objectivism.html" Objectivism - The Philosophy of Ayn Rand ). I also read The Fountainhead. I'm not sure how those books relate to 2112 though. Perhaps that's a discussion to move to the Rush group.
Marc Respass mer@sol.iii.net http://www.iii.net/users/mer.html
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 14:10:09 -0500 From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 795 Message-ID: <v01510103abc2f68433fa@[199.232.46.229]>
Deebor@aol.com wrote some interpretations of DT songs. I'd like to hear more. I'm very much and instrumentalist and even before I played, I never paid much attention to the lyrics (even though, like now, I learn them so I can sing along). I'm just horrible at getting an interpretation. You'll all probably think I'm stupid but I completely missed Rush's Red Sector A until a friend pointed out what it means.
Marc Respass mer@sol.iii.net http://www.iii.net/users/mer.html
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 11:49:34 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: The other JAPAN video Message-ID: <199504251849.LAA11251@bud.indirect.com>
> Man I'm so excited! I just got a Concert video in the mail. > It's Dream Theater Live in Urawa, Saitama, Japan. > It's supposedly a Japanese pay/view special that was aired > live on January 24, 1995. Awesome! They played every song > off _AWAKE_ EXCEPT for "Innocence Faded", "Scarred", and > "Space dye vest".
Does anyone out there have an S-Video master of this concert? Or suitably laser-perfect stereo copy? I've got a closet full of material to trade...
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 11:50:31 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: SUBCONCIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <199504251850.LAA11416@bud.indirect.com>
Well, that was definitely a note on the positive side... :)
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 13:59:33 (CDT) From: Richard K Henley <rhenley@gac.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Dream Theater update... Message-ID: <199504251859.NAA03083@hermes.gac.edu>
John Petrucci has switched to MCI. Mr. Myung has decided to eat his Campbell's Chunky soup with a fork. James has discovered how to fart with his armpit. Portnoy has promised to stop giving the roadies "melvins." Moore no longer car pools with Dominichi. Derek has a solo project featuring himself on the recorder.
Just thought someone might like to see something different for a change.
"You're all a bunch of mimes!" -Kennedy
Rick
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 15:21:24 -0400 (EDT) From: zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Attn: Babs Message-ID: <199504251921.PAA15500@rpc14.gl.umbc.edu>
Babs, I'll gladly join you...
Happy Happy, Joy Joy, Happy Happy, Joy Joy, Happy Happy, Joy Joy, Happy Happy, Joy Joy, Happy Happy, Joy Joy, Happy Happy, Joy Joy, Happy Happy, Joy Joy Joy!
I hope we do see MP there. Is the whole thing finalized yet?
To all the "music people" on the list: Has anyone ever noticed that "Eroto" is in a simplified classical Sonata form? I did a term paper on sonata form last semester, and I noticed this a while ago...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <"...Thought disorder; ___ ___ ___ _ _ ___ ___ "Balls and chunk is > <Dream control. Now | __||_ _|| __|| V || __| |_ | where it's at." > <they read my mind on |__ | | | | __| \ / | __| / / --Mike Portnoy, LiT > <the radio...But where|___| |_| |___| V |___| |___|"I think SpontanUity!"> <was the Garden of Eden?" szebro1@gl.umbc.edu --John Petrucci, X103> <--John Petrucci, Voices Radio Show> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 18:11:23 -0400 (EDT) From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 795 Message-ID: <cjbLC=q00YUz0qSYZ2@andrew.cmu.edu>
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mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass) writes: > > OK. So recommend ONE King Crimson album for me to buy. I love Yes and Rush. > I have one Bruford album that's really good and what I've heard of Levin I > liked. I'm just afraid that I won't be into it so I want the best > recommedation :). Thanks
get the compact king crimson... good place to start
if you want to know ------william bajzek------ and if you want to know just what i see -http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu-- where we're going look at yourself -----------/~wb2a/home------------ keep your distance and dont ask me ---------guitars, aepithex--------- and dont follow me
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 15:36:24 -0400 (EDT) From: zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: stereo guitars Message-ID: <199504251936.PAA15517@rpc14.gl.umbc.edu>
Another way to double-track a guitar <or any> signal is the way it's done on many recordings <you can do this at home, too--if you have enough inputs> : Send a completely dry signal to one track panned straight up the middle. Then send, via aux outs if available, the selfsame signal into your effects, pro- cess them in stereo and then send them back onto two more tracks, panned hard left and right. You can use as little or as much of each signal as you want, depending on how raw or thick you want the sound.
Another cool stereo technique has to do w/ panning. If you want the the sound to sound closer to the listener, pan harder. If you want it to sound farther away, pan less. The further you pan in either direction, the more the listen- er will hear the sound in his/her EAR rather than his/her HEAD. This works well w/ a spoken vocal line--very attention getting.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <"...Thought disorder; ___ ___ ___ _ _ ___ ___ "Balls and chunk is > <Dream control. Now | __||_ _|| __|| V || __| |_ | where it's at." > <they read my mind on |__ | | | | __| \ / | __| / / --Mike Portnoy, LiT > <the radio...But where|___| |_| |___| V |___| |___|"I think SpontanUity!"> <was the Garden of Eden?" szebro1@gl.umbc.edu --John Petrucci, X103> <--John Petrucci, Voices Radio Show> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 15:56:55 EDT From: "REASONING IS PARTLY INSANE-RUSH, ANAGRAMS" To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: SUBCONSCOIUS thing by SPUDS Message-ID: <0098F6AD.A707C8A0.162@bigvax.alfred.edu>
first, I would like to apologize for any problems caused by my bone-headed posting of the "GOOD TIMES VIRUS" hoax. sorry. I know the basics of e-mail, but I did get enlightened by many people in response to it. sorry again. second, since Mike Bair did such a good thing in doing the SUBCONSCIOUS cd, and SPUDS has recommended donating atleast three organs as a thank you, I would like to offer my kidneys, pineal gland(any Psych majors?), and thalamus...8)' A humble Chem major, who again apologizes!
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 15:41:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Sean T Gill <stg@csd.uwm.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Hidden songs Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.950425153654.2067A-100000@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu>
While some have noticed that DT puts parts of one song in another (Mirror in Lie etc...) but has anyone else noticed in Scarred, when the guitar goes clean sometime after the five minute mark that JP plays the old Wheel of Fortune theme? (Not the Big band show tune they use now). Food for thought. Sean
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 20:56:51 +0000 From: "james (j.) wolf" <jwolf@bnr.ca> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: re: No "Good Times" content! Message-ID: <"25017 Tue Apr 25 16:56:59 1995"@bnr.ca>
In message "No "Good Times" content!", Steve Borzilleri writes:
I agree that James pushes too hard, but I think I know why and it's a common problem. DT is too loud and he can't hear himself. That is why he feels he must belt it out all the time and why he's out of tune at times. Anyone who's tried to find their pitch when they can hardly hear themselves knows how tough this is.
Sometimes you just need to get rid of that "louder is better" mentality and turn everything down to get a better sound. But this is rarely done. ------------- Wolfman > > It occured to me after writing that review of Consciously Unreal why > James' singing is the way it is, what with the cracking and all. He simply > refuses to sing in anything other than his chest-voice. The man was > obviously a samurai in a past life. His honor dictates that he shall not > go falsetto! EVER! To go falsetto is to admit vocal defeat! James LaBrie > shall not bow to the limits of normal chest-voices! He shall hone his > chest-voice and overcome the boundaries of human ranges and tones and belt > out the highest notes ever heard from a human throat, with power > equivalent to that of an elephant trumpet-blast!! > > Yeah, I think that is why his singing is inconsistent, because there are > times when letting his tone go slightly to his head voice (let it all go > to his head?) would make his singing easier and clearer. But that is > obviously not what he wants to do. He pushes so hard to keep all his > singing in his natural voice that the vocal lines suffer sometimes. I > still think if he'd just relax a little or take a happy-potion before the > shows that his singing would go a lot smoother. Anyone? Anyone? > > > Bafu Vai
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 17:30:56 -0400 From: jforte@acl.nyit.edu (Jeff Forte) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Scarred Message-ID: <95042517305589@acl.nyit.edu>
Does anyone out there know why DT isnt playing Scarred in concert...its one of my favorite songs and when i went to see them...i was looking forward to hearing it. Thats about the only thing i was dissappointed in that night...it was a good show.
Jeff jforte@acl.nyit.edu
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 18:51:29 -0400 From: Deebor@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: half of the album in one song? Message-ID: <950425185127_96085335@aol.com>
Hey jammers:
I read this in the DT FAQ yesterday(just got it)
>Without referring to the obvious Erotomania, which is MADE UP OF >riffs >from other songs, the Space Dye Vest piano melody was added to >The Mirror, LSOAD, >and Scarred.
Whoa! I've noticed the Silent Man riff in Erotomania but that's about it! Can someone please explain how/where it contains segments of the first half of Awake? (Describe the time(i.e.4:13), melody, instrument, whatever!) Please! Please! Please! I NEED to know this! I've already gone back to listen to the song about 10 times last night and all I found was something similar to CIAW, but not really. HELP!!!
Space-Dye Vest in LSOAD and Scarred?!!!!! Where? I've noticed it kind of in LSOAD (Is it the guitar part in the middle?) Can someone help?!! AAAARRRRRRGGGHHH!
I think I know why one can listen to a DT CD for so long now-- You find something new each time you listen.
I have yet to get one of those quote things.....
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 17:24:03 -0600 (MDT) From: SPUDS <bunkerg@rintintin.Colorado.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Labrie's Falsetto Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950425171935.7433A-100000@rintintin.Colorado.EDU>
Hey Bafu (and anyone else who might have input)
I think that you're wrong about James never singing in a falsetto. On the Subconcious CD, James is almost certainly singing falsetto during Tori Amos' "Winter". I mean, there's just not even a HINT of chest voice during that song!! My girlfriend commented, "He sounds EXACTLY like a chick!!" (no offense anyone, but it's a quote)
Anyone else with Sub care to back me up?? And I don't mean to attack you, Bafu. Sorry!
Greg
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 20:05:24 -0400 From: JennieBear@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Fwd: Re: Dream Theater & Harry Connick, Jr. Message-ID: <950425200524_96184224@aol.com>
I originally sent this message a couple days ago, but I think it's wandering around the 'net, lost somewhere. <g> --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Re: Dream Theater & Harry Connick, Jr. Date: 95-04-23 23:06:53 EDT From: JennieBear To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
The following appeared in Ytsejam #792:
>So what do DT and HCJ have in common? ...Not much except for incredible musical talent! I just got back from an EXCELLENT performance by Mr. Connick and his *Funk* Band. It is absolutely amazing how many different styles of music this guy can play! He has more music flowing through him than the state of Indiana. (Really!)<
Wow - I never thought I would see Harry Connick pop up on the 'Jam! I own the entire catalog, aside from "11." Seen 'im in concert once (was out of town when the "She" tour rolled around), and the guy is incredible. He's this maniac, and I mean it in the nicest possible way. He has boundless energy and creativity (like playing the strings *inside* the piano with one hand, playing the keys themselves with the other, and beating to some other rythm with his feet).
In the past he was into more of the big band jazzy sound and traveled with a complete orchestra (although the trio work from those days isn't bad, either). His latest "She" is definitely a different sound, more like funk jazz.
Yes, Dream Theater and Harry have talent... What if they played together? Weird but interesting thought, eh! :) He's kind of hammy, so maybe he'd really hit it off with Mike. <g> It's sort of amusing to picture him pounding away at the piano with the guys...
Jen -- "Could we see clearer in a virtual reality?" - Magellan "I am the beat of your pulse/the computer word made flesh" - Queensryche
jenniebear@aol.com kethry@netcom.com
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 23:22:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam SERVER), Subject: Totally redesigned home page... Message-ID: <199504260322.XAA05350@opal.cs.brandeis.edu>
I just wanted to let everyone know that I have just been totally redesigning my home page... For those of you who have visited before, you you might not even recognize most of it... I have a new structure for all links in a more onganized fashion. So anyway, check out my newly modified home page at http://cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html For those of you who have links to some parts of my web structure, I have left in symbolic links for the most relavant pages that I have been changed, but you might want to make some modifications if you have more specific links. (music.html, and web.html files are now links, dt.html, boston.html, and most other major pages still exist as they did before...)
-- +----------------------------------------+----------------+---------+ | And I'll smile and learn to pretend | Dream Theater | Michael | | And I'll never be open again | Space Dye Vest | Burstin | | And I'll have no more dreams to defend |-----Awake------+---------+ | And I'll never be open again | Let's Go Pens | +----------------------------------------+--------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu http://cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html
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