YTSEJAM Digest 929
Today's Topics:
1) Long hair revisited...
by JennieBear@aol.com
2) Trivia
by david@pharlap.CI.COM (David B. Kuznick)
3) D.T. Fan Club PROBLEMS...STILL :(
by WarrenDW@aol.com
4) AD Update... NAMES! WE LOVE NAMES! :)
by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
5) Cygnus update...
by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
6) Help! with song title!!@
by "Abu Shams M. Ahmed" <mmahmed@mtu.edu>
7) Trade for Subcon tape?
by J R McCullough <jrmccull@freenet.columbus.oh.us>
8) Progressive Rock show...
by schew@TIS.COM
9)
by William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca>
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 23:34:28 -0400
From: JennieBear@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Long hair revisited...
Message-ID: <950821230316_80134571@mail04.mail.aol.com>
The following appeared in Ytsejam #925:
>well, having long hair (see it at: http://www.site.gmu.edu/~jjens/john.html)
has indeed made me different than when i had short hair. i'm now *much*
poorer do to the fact that i go through a bottle of shampoo and conditioner
every 2 weeks. this stuff ain't cheap, folx.<
Gee, too bad Keith doesn't have long hair...then he would understand why I
use up all of the conditioner. <g> I've learned to buy in bulk. :)
Jen
-- "Could we see clearer in a virtual reality?" - Magellan "I am the beat of your pulse/the computer word made flesh" - Queensrychejenniebear@aol.com kethry@netcom.com
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 95 12:37:09 -0400 From: david@pharlap.CI.COM (David B. Kuznick) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Trivia Message-ID: <9508211637.AA01700@pharlap.ci.com>
> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 07:49:02 -0500 > From: imowatt@escape.ca (Ian Mowatt) > > Re: Yes trivia > > Patrick Moraz was in Refugee, which also included Lee Jackson and Brian > Davison, who were formerly in The Nice with Keith Emerson. > > Now, what band Moraz was in before that.....you stumped me.
But not me. :-) Mainhorse. I have the LP, never listened to it.
David Kuznick - david@ci.com (preferred) or dkuznick@world.std.com So storm through the barricades and raise your hands up high All of you pull down your walls, help those too scared to try Don't let them tell you it's only a dream, for never to dream is to die. Don't close your eyes. - "For Your Eyes" - ARAGON
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 22:03:39 -0400 From: WarrenDW@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: D.T. Fan Club PROBLEMS...STILL :( Message-ID: <950821215335_80074449@emout04.mail.aol.com>
Hey people...I sent photocopies of my $ 16.00 check to the DT fan club along with a _very_ nice letter asking them to please send me that which I had paid for. This was 2 months ago...I sent them the money in January. H E L P!!!!!
I am ready to send a registered letter to them this time but before I do I need a name or another address to send it to. Soooo if anyone can give me a name, or other information to help me become an "official" member I would appreciate it.
Warren in Oregon WarrenDW@aol.com Warren non-member; DT fan club Warren, $ 16.00 poorer Warren the ignored Warren...I wonder if they cashed my check and bought a case of beer?? Warren in Oregon...now I am thirsty for a beer Warren, keeper of Poly Rhythmn parrots Parrots who love slow songs
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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 01:21:54 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: durnik@indirect.com Subject: AD Update... NAMES! WE LOVE NAMES! :) Message-ID: <199508220821.BAA13387@bud.indirect.com>
DREAM THEATER: "ACOUSTIC DREAMS" Information and Update Current to 8/22/1995
NOTE: INTERNET EMAIL ADDRESS CHANGE: I am now durnik@indirect.com I found the culprit of my account's untimely death...
Hi all! This is the latest information on Acoustic Dreams, the new LIMITED EDITION Dream Theater CD I will be producing. It will be a numbered, hand-initialed limited print just like Subconscious was.
============================================================================ DISCLAIMER: Acoustic Dreams falls into a grey area of law as an uncopyrighted recording produced in such a manner that at least one facet of the production occurs in a country (namely Italy) in which it is legal to do so. In the USA, it is permissible to sell used import CDs only if they are labeled as such. This is such a CD. Be aware that the various powers-that-be are collecting nothing for this. ============================================================================
Of course, that's all cover-my-butt lawyerspeak. I hope you all will want to be a part of this. I make roughly minimum wage doing it, so you know I'm not out to scam you. In all humility, I appeal to anyone who might not think too kindly of my endeavor, and ask that they might give me the benefit of the doubt on this one. Friends? :)
1. What is Acoustic Dreams? 2. What is the release schedule? 3. How can I get my own copy of Acoustic Dreams? 4. Orders received. ============================================================================
1. What is Acoustic Dreams?
Hi all! Allow me to introduce myself, if you aren't familiar with me yet. I'm Mike Bahr, humble maker of special-edition CDs. I noticed a lot of the mass-manufactured bootleg offerings were spiralling quite high in price and yet offered little for the die-hard fan, and I concocted a scheme by which I could make around minimum wage by producing CDs on my own, CDs that would fill the demand for REAL rarities and special songs, unreleased items, live shows, and the like.
Basically, since no CD plant will print them for me, I have to rent studio and equipment time and do it myself. So far, it's working. :)
Fortunately, and for this I am very relieved, my CD efforts so far have been incredibly well-received by the net community, especially the Ytsejam mailing list. I just do what I can do and leave the rest up to God, and I guess the Almighty isn't disappointing you folks. People from all walks of life, all countries of the world, both sexes, all races, and all religions have joined in on the Subconscious and Cygnus projects, and I am very happy to have you all along for the ride. I'll keep making CDs as long as you folks are willing to keep buying them. Thanks so _very_ much... :)
And now, it's time to get Acoustic Dreams together.
Well, this is the next CD I'm doing, also known as Dream Theater Unplugged. We were given a VERY high-quality soundboard tape of DT's recent Unplugged performance in Europe, and it can only be fully expressed in the form of a CD. Trust me. :) I am fervently hoping that the finished product is well-liked. I've created the master DAT and submitted it so I can get the glass master made.
Here's the final tracklisting from Acoustic Dreams. I know many were hoping I'd find more stuff, but I've pretty much scraped the barrel dry at this point. The only other things of similar sound quality I could find were in soundboard shows that ought to be released to CD in their entirety.
Acoustic Dreams 1. Another Day 2. Lifting Shadows off a Dream 3. Wait For Sleep 4. The Silent Man 5. Lie (boogie version) 6. Tears (Rush cover) 7. O Holy Night
Electric Extras 8. Perfect Strangers (with Bruce Dickinson on vocals) 9. 6:00 (performed in session with a much better mix) 10. Caught In A Web (another better performance)
Bonus Tracks (acoustic) 11. Voices (just a small part of it was all there was) acoustic 12. Bad (U2 cover) acoustic
I hope that once you've heard it, you will, like me, have your breath taken away by the beauty of the acoustic tracks and the clarity and sharpness of the electric mixes. As good as Cygnus sounded, this is easily and by far the best sounding CD I will have ever made.
2. What is the release schedule?
Here is the current schedule of releases as I see it (all dates estimated):
NOW - Rush: Cygnus released/shipping NOW - Dream Theater: "Acoustic Dreams" ordering begins 09/30/1995 - Dream Theater: "Acoustic Dreams" released/shipping 10/15/1995 - Public Affection: "The Death of a Dictionary" ordering begins 11/15/1995 - Dream Theater: "When Dream and Today Unite" ordering begins 11/30/1995 - Public Affection: "The Death of a Dictionary" released/shipping 12/25/1995 - Dream Theater: "When Dream and Today Unite" released/shipping 02/--/1996 - Rush: To be announced 04/--/1996 - Live or Type O-Negative: To be announced 06/--/1996 - Dream Theater: To be announced
Here are a few descriptions to keep your curiosity satiated :)
Dream Theater "Subconscious" Released 04/03/1995 - Limited print of 500 copies - sold out Contained Dream Theater rarities including A Change of Season. Rush "Cygnus" Released 08/14/1995 - Unlimited print - still available Contains a rare soundboard show from the Hemispheres tour. Dream Theater "Acoustic Dreams" Currently in pre-ordering. To be released 09/30/1995 - Limited print of 500 copies Each copy will be hand signed/numbered in gold for authenticity. Contains beautiful unplugged performances. Public Affection "The Death of a Dictionary" To be released 11/30/1995 - Unlimited print Is actually +Live+'s little-known first album, released in 1989, two years before their 1991 breakthrough Mental Jewelry. Demand for this one is skyrocketing, and the Jam gets first shot at it. Dream Theater "When Dream and Today Unite" To be released 12/25/1995 - Limited print of either 500 or 1000. Contains the songs from Dream and Day only with James LaBrie on vocals. Collected from MANY sources and optimized for quality.
The following are all "Work in Progress" releases... Rush other titles I'm considering (for any of the given shows): Land's Edge, Storm World, Lifeforce, Arena of the Ancients... Rush "A Symptom of Life" - from 12/20/81 2nd gen soundboard Contains a LOT of neat stuff. a LOT. But very long... 2 CD set? Rush "Concordant Crossroads" - from 3/24/81 audience MASTER in stereo This one has unbelievable good sound quality. It's a tossup whether to take this or Symptom, since both are so good but so similar. Rush "Sleight of Mind" - from a remastered 6/25/75 Toronto This tour has been very underrepresented in available material, so who knows, if S.H.'s cleanup efforts turn out good... +Live+ "Disenchanting Discourse" - from a 10/25/94 audience MASTER in stereo It might be released, it might not, depending on many things. If you would like to see it released, please let me know and let as many people know as you can. I tend to find ways to release things when I find an overwhelming demand for them. :) Type O-Negative "Deathgrip" - from a 5/30/94 audience MASTER in stereo A great setlist and decent sound. Only my worries about how many copies I can sell prevent this. I can't undertake anything less than a potential sellout project or I risk going under. Again, if this is a title you'd like to see, you can make it happen. All I need is a lot of interest, and away we go! So far I've had a few positive replies... much much more are needed though. Dream Theater... oh who knows, there's so much good stuff. Possible shows: Osaka soundboard from late 1992 Hamburg soundboard from spring 1993 Vocalist auditions various excellent DATs recorded in Texas
3. How can I order a copy of Acoustic Dreams?
Finally, I am going to go ahead and let the ordering begin, because I can tell everyone's excitement level is peaking at this point. :) I will say this in advance: I expect it to come out 9/30 or thereabouts (I'm going to try and beat my own schedule) and that's two months away, folks. If that dosen't bother you too much, I guess it won't bother me either. However, I'm one of those guys who hates having things take too long. :)
I say this because Subconscious took an unbelievably long time to turnaround due to delays in the making of it, and despite my best efforts, Cygnus is going a bit too slow for my taste as well (though it's still within the predicted schedule, it was a schedule I had been planning to beat). So I am trying to jumpstart Acoustic Dreams so there's NO DAMN WAITING. :)
Here's the nitty gritty then:
RESERVATIONS. I'll take them, to save you a COPY, but not necessarily a _specific copy_. In many cases, people who request special numbers such as birthdays and so on will get them. But people requesting a specific low number are going to find that they're all sold. Which brings me to the next point: ORDERS. The numbering, excepting special requests when possible, will fill in the order I receive the mail orders. It's only fair after all. I'll reserve a copy for someone over e-mail, but if thirty people get their orders in before he or she does, it's not fair for me to still hold copy #014 or whatever. You all get the idea... these decisions are just in the effort to make it fair for all.
Please, I stress to all of you, don't miss this if you missed Subconscious. It really does pain me to have to tell a fellow DT fan that there simply aren't any more Sub discs to be had, especially because I would be MORE than glad to sell one if I had it.
Blanks, materials, studio time, etc is cheaper per unit for a production line of 1000 than for 500, which is why Cygnus was cheaper for the Ytsejammers. Acoustic Dreams, alas, must remain $25. I was hoping to bring it down to $21 or $20 but that wouldn't be cost effective. I think I may be able to do that for the Public Affection CD, however.
Things are pretty simple from here. Send along a money order for $25 bucks to my address, being sure to include a note with your name, the address to ship to, your email address, and WHICH CD you're ordering (after all, Cygnus is still in ordering) and HOW MANY you're ordering. As before, international customers may use whatever means of payment is most convenient for them, though I stress that sending cash is risky and should not be a first option, but a backup plan. :) Also, to pool opinions: would you all want me to include a number list as orders are received?
The address and so on is me at:
Mike "Acoustic Dreamer" Bahr 3175 N. Price Rd. #1066 Chandler, AZ 85224
My home telephone number, available as a courtesy to you, is 1-602-777-0501. I am usually not home on weekends (band practice) so try during the week, between noon and 9pm pacific time, for best results. Also, please use discretion when handling this number, as it is, after all, my own home phone, and I will be very confused if a stranger calls at 3:00 AM. :) I trust you Jammers to be cool about it, as you always have in the past.
4. Orders received.
This is NOT "reservations"... it's paid-for orders. If you have a reservation, it's still valid, trust me. :) These are just the numbers that are filled. Also there are a handful of "saved numbers" in there.
001 Master 002 Press Master A 003 Press Master B 004 Mike Bahr 005 Justin Poulter 006 Steve McMaster 007 David Fox 008 Robert Dalton 009 Chris King 010 Michael Burstin 011 Brian Cox 012 Scott Hansen 013 Mike Portnoy 014 Mike Portnoy 015 Mike Portnoy 016 Bracken Odiorne 017 John Nguyen 018 Nathan Bradley 019 Mike Engelhardt 020 Todd Masek 021 Johan Moore 022 Mark Tedhams 023 Brian Fieg 024 Adam Japhet 025 Steve Chew 026 Kristian Reyes 027 Alan Wilds 028 Jeff Stewart 029 Matt McIntosh 030 Brian Polka 031 Stephan Dobay 032 Dale Newberry 033 Scott Hansen 034 Sanjeev Ghai 035 Sanjeev Ghai 036 Mike Robinson 037 Paul Poehler 038 Lisa Gaunt 039 Tracy Mangum 040 Jeff Forte 041 Robert Castilone 042 Bracken Odiorne 043 Jean-Francois Cote' 044 Ramin Miraftabi 045 Steve Esterle 046 Chad Smith 047 Scott McCammon 048 David Edwards 049 Craig Newmeyer 050 Partha Mukhopadhyay 051 Dave Silva 052 Dave Silva 053 Dave Silva 054 Dave Silva 055 Anna Davidson 056 Jason Breitweg 057 Demetris Papallis 058 Adam Marshall 059 Paul Goracke 060 Andrew Garinger 061 Alex Fraser 062 Uffe Moller 063 Uffe Moller 064 Matt Masi 065 Iwahori Tomonori 066 Iwahori Tomonori 067 Michael Backof 068 Brian Ross 069 Anna Davidson 070 Kjetil Nordahl 071 Kjetil Nordahl 072 Kjetil Nordahl 073 Bill Wrightson 074 S. Johnson 075 Jaison John 076 Jaison John 077 Craig Newmeyer 078 Paul Humm 079 Jay Miller 080 Astrid De Ronde 081 Jason MacDonald 082 Scott Kuennen 083 Scott Kuennen 084 Rick Beem 085 Mike Ringelstetter 086 Conrad Chi 087 Brian Kirk 088 Brian Adams 089 Chris Freel 090 Chris Freel 091 Patrick Davis 092 Dave Fausel 093 Chris Derobertis 094 Sean Brady 095 S. Craig Caldwell 096 Andrew Stiles 097 Gregory Bunker 098 Eddie Webb 099 Edwin Million 100 Jenn Albert 101 Jenn Albert 102 Jeff Hill 103 Mike Olekshy 104 David Delmont 105 Derek Bober 106 Adam Japhet 111 Sookapat Niyomthai 113 Randy Haskin 128 Keith Aspinal 193 Ramin Miraftabi 210 Greg Sands 211 Greg Sands 213 Evelyn Lauer 215 Jun-Dai Bates 222 Jacob Caminati 228 Eric Marlett 240 Chris Mahaffey 244 Andreas Kasper 246 Jan Melander 275 Mark Stahl 303 John Mastin 304 John Mastin 310 Craig Erskine 313 Evelyn Lauer 330 Philip Jason 333 Jacob Caminati 350 Keith Aspinal 405 Philip Jason 406 Joe Lukas 420 Darren Brown 421 Darren Brown 427 Ryan Brown 444 Jacob Caminati
If you see something that just isn't true, please let me know. :)
-Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com Magic: The Gathering - Mox Rubies taste sort of like onion rings with salt
"Asps. Very dangerous. You go first." - Sallah, "Raiders of the Lost Ark"
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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 01:22:07 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: durnik@indirect.com Subject: Cygnus update... Message-ID: <199508220822.BAA13399@bud.indirect.com>
CYGNUS CD PROJECT UPDATE / SUBCONSCIOUS CONCLUSION current to 8/22/95
NOTICE: INTERNET EMAIL ADDRESS CHANGE: I am now durnik@indirect.com
This is an update on the status of orders and such things on the Rush "Cygnus" CD... made available exclusively to the members of the Ytsejam list before anybody else. :)
EVEN QUICKER UPDATE: The CDs are HERE. I've been shipping them as fast as I can. I've already shipped the first 120 of them.
Here's the no-wait address and cost. Read on for further info on the CD.
$23 check, money order, or cashier's check/traveler's cheque to: Michael Bahr 3175 N. Price Rd. #1066 Chandler, AZ 85224 PLEASE SPECIFY that it's Cygnus you want. I do a lot of mailing and may not realize what it is that's being purchased.
SUBCONSCIOUS: The CDs are finally _gone_. Every copy has been sold. I've even sold my own personal extra copies. I can't believe this was so popular! Will Subconscious ever be made again? Unless some Italian company copies it, I am sorry to say it will not. One of the explicit conditions I set forth when I made the disc was that it would be very special and limited, and I would be breaking my confidence with the people who have bought it under the understanding it would be a unique, rare release. I swear I don't mean to make people miss out... but a promise is a promise. Would people trust me when I say "get it now" if they could get it a year later? I calculate not. :)
THANKS EVERYONE for being a part of this! You all RULE! :)
DISCLAIMER: Cygnus falls into a grey area under law as an uncopyrighted recording produced in such a manner that at least one facet of the production occurs in a country (namely Italy) in which it is legal to do so. In the USA, it is permissible to sell used import CDs only if they are labeled as such. This is such a CD. Be aware that the various powers-that-be are collecting nothing for this.
Of course, that's all cover-my-butt lawyerspeak. I hope you all will want to be a part of this. I make roughly minimum wage doing it, so you know I'm not out to scam you. In all humility, I appeal to anyone who might not think too kindly of my endeavor, and ask that they might give me the benefit of the doubt on this one. Friends? :)
1. What the hell is Cygnus? 2. When can I order and how? 3. Orders received. =============================================================================
1. What the hell is Cygnus?
Hi all, I'm Mike Bahr, humble maker of special edition CDs. Earlier this year, I made available a special, _very_ limited edition Dream Theater CD called Subconscious. I didn't know if the project would work at all, since I had to use my own money to finance the project, and had to be very close on costs to even make it a non-loss financially. But you responded, Ytsejammers!
The CD sold, sold, and sold some more. In fact, the entire limited edition print of 500 copies, each hand-numbered and signed in gold by myself, sold out entirely to you, the most devoted fans of Dream Theater on earth.
And I do mean _Earth_! I got orders from the USA, Canada, Mexico, Japan, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Austria, Great Britain, Ireland, Denmark, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Italy, Germany, France, Spain, Israel, Singapore, Australia, New Zealand, Belgium, Greece, and a few more countries I am sure I have forgotten to mention. Truly, the WORLD made Subconscious a success for me and for the Jam, so I'm going to hope that Cygnus will be another one! My heart goes out to all of you in every country of the world for joining in!
What I did was work with a pressing plant using rental equipment and some of my own as well, and an exhausting three months of preparation, packaging, and mailing, not to mention production of the CD, and a million other things, and made it a reality. I was relieved beyond words when I read the positive comments people had for it online.
Cygnus is the project I've done to fill the gap between Spring 1995's Subconscious and Winter 1995's WHEN DREAM AND JAMES UNITE. Cygnus will be a recording from an ultra-rare Rush show, the single best sounding Rush show in existence, from the mystical Hemispheres tour of 1978-79. It is an unlimited print, but there will likely not be more than 1000 ever made.
Here's the information on the show.
Title: Rush "Cygnus" Source: True soundboard reel-to-reel, original length 81 min Running time: 73 min Venue: Convention Center Arena (TCC Arena) Location: Tucson, Arizona Date: November 20, 1978 Generation: Transferred to 48kHz DAT from a 2nd gen analog. Quality: Beyond comparison. Higher than "Oakland '92" and "Pinkpop".
Setlist: Anthem A Passage to Bangkok By-Tor and the Snow Dog I. At the Tobes of Hades II. Across the Styx III. Of The Battle Xanadu Something for Nothing The Trees Cygnus X-1 Book 1: The Voyage Cygnus X-1 Book 2: Hemispheres I. Prelude II. Apollo III. Dionysus IV. Armageddon V. Cygnus VI. The Sphere Circumstances A Farewell to Kings
Note that La Villa Strangiato had to be cut or else I couldn't fit the Cygnus saga on the CD! I'm sorry about that, I hope it won't kill the experience for anybody. They had some sound problems during that song anyhow, so in a way, maybe you _don't_ want to hear it.
Also on the original tape was a cut-off version of the beginning of 2112, the Overture and then half of the Temples section. In order to make Cygnus fit onto a single CD, I cut those seven minutes out of the DAT. Everyone has a live 2112 on ATWAS album, anyway.
2. Where can I order and how?
The first 300 orders have a random 30 freebie video montages thrown into them, as promised. I've already taped all of these, so I'm going to leave it up to the computer. A Dungeons & Dragons dice program called KrystalDice is going to randomly choose the winners! So far, 13 of the videos have already gone into packages, beating the odds by a bit.
How to order!!!
Remember when Subconscious came out, and I said certain costs were permanent, and had gone into the production cost? I didn't lie... Cygnus will be CHEAPER than Subconscious was. The price will be $23. For anyone in Canada ordering, add only $1 for postage. For anyone outside North America, add $2 for postage (so it would be the same price as Sub) and that will take care of it. There's a lot of bean-counting that I do to come up with those numbers, so trust me, it's what it amounts to. Plus, you can order as MANY Cygnus discs as you want, because you on the Jam are getting a shot at it before I offer it anywhere else. Also, it's still $25 for NON-Ytsejammers. Check out my posts to alt.music.rush and a.m.dt, you'll find it's true. Naturally, if you have friends who want a copy of Cygnus, they can get it at the $23 price, same as you Jammers.
Please use a money order if you can. The reason is simple: it's safe! I know you paid and you know I have it (it's traceable). And you know if you don't get a CD or a refund, I'll go to jail.
For international orders, I will indeed accept cash if you wish. I urge you to be careful, because every order for Subconscious that contained cash made it safely to me, but that might not always be the case. I don't want anybody to lose their money. For orders of 2 or more Cygnus discs, a travellers cheque or international money order is economical to use. If you decide to use cash, please wrap it tight in a thick envelope and try to hide it, so that nobody will steal it.
Please allow 3-4 weeks for delivery. It will actually be closer to 2 or 2 and a half weeks, but in order to be safe, I'm giving you the extreme possibility. Understand that, as with Subconscious, I'll be making every effort to get them sent fast and soon.
Here's what to do.
Send your payment, along with your Name, Address to ship it to, Internet email address (in case I need to contact you), how MANY CDs you want, and, optionally, your phone number. I say optionally, because I know some of you want to keep them unlisted.
Send all this to: Michael "Mishra's Apprentice" Bahr 3175 N. Price Rd. #1066 Chandler, AZ 85224 (USA)
As a courtesy, I'm going to provide my home phone number to you. If you wish to speak to me for any reason, including questions, comments, suggestions, or you just want to chat with another dedicated fan of Rush and Dream Theater, you are very welcome to call me at 1-602-777-0501. I am usually home between noon and 9pm Mountain Standard Time. Please use this phone number with proper discretion, however, as I will be very confused if you call me at 3:00 in the morning.
3. Orders received.
This time, I'm in the thick of the AD project, and Cygnus is coming along just dandy as well... and I will be able to confirm that an order was received if you email me about it. I won't be posting a long list to the Jam because of complaints I received about the Sub listing.
For the most part, all orders usually get through. If you want to confirm yours PERSONALLY, feel free to do so, via email or voice.
Well that about wraps it up for this update of the CYGNUS CD project. Everyone be excellent to each other, and party on dudes!
-Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com
"Man, I'm so hungry... I just GOTTA have a Wildebeest!" - The Lion King
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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 05:33:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Abu Shams M. Ahmed" <mmahmed@mtu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Help! with song title!!@ Message-ID: <199508220933.FAA08974@colossus.csl.mtu.edu>
hi all!
I was wondering ... what is the title of the instrumental on the WDADU. I have atape copy of it and it does not have the title on that. one more thing I thought Kevin's solos on that album were more interesting than of JP's. Is it just my thought or some of you guys think the same too??? ... sorry about this old stuff but I was getting bored with the hair and Melon stuff in recent ...for one thing who cares about hair anyway?//....no I take that back I love women with long hair..but that's just my opinion right ??..and about blind melon.. well they are blind all right ..;-)
just my thoughts!!!
Minhaz
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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 09:58:27 -0400 (EDT) From: J R McCullough <jrmccull@freenet.columbus.oh.us> To: YTSEJAM Newsletter <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Trade for Subcon tape? Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9508220927.A3089-a100000@acme>
I have purchased InstruMENTAL, InstruMENTAL II, and the Majesty Demos from Tim Lodge. I'm willing to make tapes for people, provided they cover the shipping costs and supply the tapes.
I'm especially interested in trading for a tape of Subconscious. E-Mail me if interested.
******************* J.R. McCullough ********************** * Find all you need in your mind, if you take the time...* * -- Dream Theater, "Take the Time" * **********************************************************
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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 11:36:01 -0400 (EDT) From: schew@TIS.COM To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com, freaks@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Progressive Rock show... Message-ID: <14175.9508221536@ragnarok.tis.com>
For those of you in the North Carolina area who want to try some US prog-rock, check out this ProgDay show on September 3rd... Echolyn will be playing -- they're just amazing live. I've also seen Mastermind live and they really smoke. And note that bootlegging the shows should be permitted as long as you register beforehand. This is a good chance to catch some great US prog-rock bands and you'll probably be able to pick up some hard-to-find prog stuff at the dealers tables. :) BTW, this post is quite long, so if you're not interested, just skip it. Also, I'm not associated with this show in any way, I just thought I should spread the word.
Steve
TICKETS: ProgDay '95 is being held at Storybook Farm on Jones Ferry Road in Chapel Hill, NC on Sunday, September 3, 1995. Tickets will be $15 on the day of the show. Advance tickets are $12. Tickets have NOT been printed yet. People who pay early will be able to pick theirs up at the gate. Ticket numbers are being assigned in the order that payment is received. Please send check or money order made payable to Peter Renfro to:
ProgDay '95 Att. Peter Renfro 207 South Elliott Road Chapel Hill, NC 27514 Tel: (919) 929-8987 (6:00-11:00pm most days) Fax: (919) 968-2557 E-Mail: Prognerd@vnet.net
T-Shirts, programs, CD's, cassettes, and other memorabilia will be on sale by the bands and a couple of dealers. There will be a drawing to give away autographed CD's throughout the day. A special prize will also be awarded for the person who travels the furthest for this show. Other bands that have tentatively said they will be in attendance include: Glass Hammer, Metropolis, Brain Forest, and Freehand.
Tentative Schedule of Events:
10:30am Gates are open! 11:00am Cloud Nine 11:30am break/soundcheck 11:45am Timothy Pure 12:45pm break/souncheck 1:00pm Discipline 2:30pm Bon Lozaga/lunch break/soundcheck 3:30pm Mastermind 5:15pm break/soundcheck 6:00pm Echolyn 8:00pm Time to Get Out! (sorry, I couldn't resist the Steve Hackett reference) 9:30pm Dinner at Elmo's Restaurant (if anyone's interested!)
For more information, like directions to the show, see below the press release.
Press Release
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Doug Hinson (704/326-3453) August 15, 1995 Peter Renfro (919/929-8987)
PROGDAY '95 SCHEDULED SEPTEMBER 3 IN CHAPEL HILL
It's called progressive rock. But ask any 10 aficionados of the genre to define progressive rock, and you're apt to get 10 different answers. Whatever the definition, though, progressive rock fans in North Carolina and, in fact, the Southeast will get a rare live exposure to the music Sunday, September 3 in Chapel Hill during "ProgDay '95." Three of the most popular American progressive rock bands headline the day-long outdoor festival, the first major event of its kind in the South and the third largest for North America. Philadelphia-based Echolyn, one of the few current progressive rock groups on a major U.S. record label, will be headlining the show. Blending the styles of Yes, Gentle Giant, and Phish, Echolyn attracted the attention of Sony/Epic Records two years ago by filling medium-size venues with passionate diehard fans. New Jersey's Mastermind is a three-piece group that is best described as Emerson, Lake, and Palmer gone metal. Discipline has their roots in the more melodic songs of early Genesis or Caravan. A special treat for longtime fans of progressive rock is Bon Lozaga, formerly of the progressive/space rock/fusion group Gong. He will be on hand to perform solo material between the main acts. Rounding out the bill is Atlanta's Timothy Pure and Raleigh's own Cloud Nine. But back to definitions. What is progressive rock? First of all, try the definition from The Rolling Stone Encyclopedia of Rock 'n' Roll: "Generally, 'progressive' denotes a form of rock music in which electric instruments and rock-band formats are integrated with European classical motifs and orchestrations, typically forming extended, intricate, multisectional suites." While most rock music emphasizes simple, repetitious melody and structure, progressive rock emphasizes more involved compositional structures and more elaborate rhythms. It also incorporates sometimes disparate styles--for example, Jazz, Classical, Baroque and Electronic music--in a single composition. Genesis, King Crimson, Yes, and Pink Floyd -- who all released "essential" prog albums -- were the leaders of the progressive rock movement during the '70s. But some fans assert the word "progressive" denotes more than just a musical style or structure. Progressive rock went underground during the 80's when record companies and clubs no longer supported it. With the arrival of CD technology and independent record labels, the music is "progressing" well beyond the obstacles and restrictions of the music industry. Two years ago marked the debut of ProgFest--the first North American progressive rock festival held in Los Angeles. Peter Renfro, owner of A-Z Mailing Services in Chapel Hill, is bringing progressive rock to the East coast with "ProgDay '95." The event will be held at Storybook Farm on Sunday, September 3. Because these aforementioned bands rarely get to perform under such ideal circumstances, fans are already making travel arrangements from as far away as Las Vegas, NV and even Tokyo, Japan! "ProgDay '95" will be videotaped and a live album is in the planning stages. Gates open at 10:30 a.m., and Raleigh's Cloud Nine will open the festival at 11 o' clock. Timothy Pure will follow at 11:45; Discipline's set begins at 1:30 p.m. Mastermind goes on stage at 3:45, and Echolyn will close the show at 6 p.m. Bon Lozaga will entertain the crowd in the afternoon between sets. Tickets are $12 in advance or $15 the day of the show. Programs, CDs, T-shirts, and other progressive rock memorabilia will be on sale. For tickets, or for more information, contact Peter Renfro at 919/929-8987.
FACILITIES: This is an outdoor festival, and as such, it needs to wrap up just before dark. The festival will be held at Storybook Farm on Jones Ferry Road. Food, drink, and restroom facilities will be available on site, though feel free to bring your own food and beverages.
BOOTLEGGING: Quite a few of you have asked if it was all right to bring tape recorders and cameras to the festival. This will be allowed as long as everyone registers their name and equipment at the gate. Taping will be allowed as long as I'm provided with a high quality copy for possible inclusion in the video release. Remember: You may not SELL any recordings from this show.
DIRECTIONS: On I-40 you'll want to take Exit 273 (Hwy 54) going towards Chapel Hill. Stay on this road for about 4 miles. When you see the Harris Teeter on the left, you are about to go under a bridge. You will want to turn right just after the bridge--this is Hwy. 15-501 and 54 Bypass going towards Carrboro. Stay on this road for about 4 miles. Do NOT take 15-501 to Pittsboro. Stay on 54 Bypass until the exit for Jones Ferry Road. At the stoplight, make a left. You will go under the bridge and past a Burger King. Keep following this road about 5 miles into the country. Storybook Farm will be on the left just after crossing the Chatham County Line. Signs will be posted along this route. Alternate Route #1: If you're coming from Greensboro, you can take the Hwy 54 exit in Burlington (the exit sign says Chapel Hill). This road goes into Carrboro, and after passing the Carrboro town park on the left, you'll want to turn right at the first stoplight (just before the shopping center with Sav-a-Center). Follow this road for about a mile and a half and turn right at the next stoplight. This is Jones Ferry Road. Follow it out to Storybook. Alternate Route #2: Hwy 15-501 does intersect with I-40. This is between Chapel Hill and Durham. Of course, you'll want to go towards Chapel Hill. Stay on 15-501 until it picks up Hwy 54 Bypass, then you'll want to stay on the 54 Bypass until Jones Ferry Road. If you'll be coming from another direction, please let me know and I'll figure out the best way for you. For reference points I-85 joins I-40 in Greensboro, NC. I-95 joins I-85 in Petersburg, VA.
HOTEL ACCOMODATIONS: Please let me know ASAP if you need hotel rooms for Saturday September 2 or Sunday September 3. There is a Carolina football game on that Saturday, so hotel rooms are becoming very scarce. We have some rooms reserved at Travel Time Hotel just off of I-40. These rooms are going for $40 a night.
CAMPING (with Echolyn!): Jordan Lake State Recreation Area is the closest public campground to ProgDay. This is about twenty minutes from Storybook Farm. There are several areas to camp, but Crosswinds Campground seems to be the easiest to get to. From I-40, you will want to take the Hwy 55 exit (midway between Chapel Hill and Research Triangle Park). Make a right turn onto Hwy 64 (about 7 miles). Crosswinds Campground will be about 5 miles on the right. You can get a brochure by calling the Jordan Lake Rec Office at (919) 362-0586. I can fax the brochure I have--just contact me. Echolyn will probably camp at Crosswinds Campground Sunday night after the show.
PROGRESSIVE ROCK DEALERS: Please e-mail me should you wish to set up a table to sell your goodies. I'm asking $20 for this. I will allow progressive rock bands to set up for free if you'd like to come down and peddle your wares.
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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 09:57:19 -0600 From: William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: bass@enci.ucalgary.ca, solos@enci.ucalgary.ca Message-ID: <199508221557.JAA21083@xterm2.enci.ucalgary.ca>
'jammers,
To those who commented on John Myung's bass solos. Feel fortunate you've had a chance to see them play live! I think his solo would be outstanding if you compared it to Michael Anthony's (even with the Jack Daniels bottle!). Check out the bassist from Vixen if you want a cool live solo (if they're still kicking around that is) - they're an all-female band.
Also, I think John Petrucci does have his own style even though in UaGM he showed his bag of tricks. To me he's added a large amount of new material to guitar playing, namely in melodic playing. These melodies are not necessarily the guitar solos, but are within the song. One way I identify him is by the blistering chromatic passages such as in UaGM, PMU, TTT, and a short part of Innocence Faded(end). But hey, everyone has his (her) opinion!
Will
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