YTSEJAM Digest 931
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 930
by James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
2) Record Sales Redux
by toscano richard <toscano@SDSC.EDU>
3) Vixen and DT?
by Erik Wolfe <71473.371@compuserve.com>
4) Re: John Myung's solos
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
5) Status seeker and...
by akiyama@mol.f.u-tokyo.ac.jp (AKIYAMA Takumi)
6) John Patitucci and DT 'flaws'
by Rich Rochelle <rr@asu.edu>
7) HELP HELP!
by tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
8) Any Aussie fans?
by "BRENDEN R. THOMSON" <slayerbr@student.gu.edu.au>
9) JM's solo
by freel@iowa.physics.uiowa.edu
10) My Name
by "Brian K. Adams" <aa467@seorf.ohiou.edu>
11) YTSEJAM digest 928
by LNCV43E@prodigy.com (MR BRIAN LUNDY)
12) Re: James during instr. breaks
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
13) Obscure trivia
by Qghost@aol.com
14) Re: DT boot CDs
by "Ken H ili" <KEN@benoni.nbr.no>
15) What's new?
by Tor Houghton (SysAdmin) <torh@celtic.co.uk>
16) in defense of John Myung
by Mats Rydstr\vm <d94-mry@nada.kth.se>
17) Trivia
by david@pharlap.CI.COM (David B. Kuznick)
18) YTSEJAM digest 930
by "Steven Johnson, P" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
19) Re: YTSEJAM digest 930
by Clarke Woodfin <clarke.woodfin@gsfc.nasa.gov>
20) DT over the summer
by jsg140@psu.edu (Jason Gianni)
21) No DT: Cygnus CD mini-review...
by mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
22) Re: How is DT related to Vixen?
by Michael Kevin Martin <marmik@homer.acs.bethel.edu>
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Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 20:31:16 -0400
From: James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 930
Message-ID: <Pine.DYN.3.91.950823202919.20031A-100000@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
I must agree that Victor Lemont Wooten is one of the best bass players alive!
I'll be seeing Bela Fleck and The Flecktones this Saturday (for the 5th
time in my life). They are amazing!!
Jay Peele
For info on INFERNO, e-mail: jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu
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Date: Wed, 23 Aug 95 17:37:25 PDT
From: toscano richard <toscano@SDSC.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Record Sales Redux
Message-ID: <9508240037.AA02131@vector.sdsc.edu>
Can it be that nobody knows any stats on DT record sales? I asked
about this a couple of days ago and, among all the messages about hair length,
I have seen no reply. I would be really appreciative if anyone could
give me any statistics on DT's album sales (or any other prog band, for
that matter). Thanks!
Rich
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San Diego Supercomputer Center User Services
http://www.sdsc.edu/SDSC/Staff/toscano/toscano.html
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Date: 23 Aug 95 20:07:25 EDT
From: Erik Wolfe <71473.371@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:ytsejam@arastar.com" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Vixen and DT?
Message-ID: <950824000725_71473.371_CHU135-1@CompuServe.COM>
No, wait...lemme guess... :)
Ex-Vixen drummer Roxy Petrucci is _somehow_ related to DT axeman John Petrucci.
Has anyone got proof? I mean...in some strange way, the kinda look like they're
related... cousins?
Erik
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"Here I am. Cross this bridge and come my way." -- Majesty
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Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 21:14:19 -0500
From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: John Myung's solos
Message-ID: <v01510103ac618ce415af@[199.232.46.229]>
> In ROCK, and in DT actually I presume the solo segments are
> carefully planned and measured - John Myung knew he was
> going to solo. I presume he also had some ideas before the
> show. But the fact remains: his ideas, thoughts, licks and
> whatever the hell he had chosen to present in the show in
> MILAN on the I&W tour was a bad piece of music.
Since you said, presume, you don't know for sure. I thought that DT
sometimes improvised jams? Was this an improvised thing? I'm sure that they
had some structure to it before, but it may have been very improvised. If
that was the case, maybe what Myung had intended to play didn't come out
right. Or maybe he choked and played the lousy bit that he did.
> And that's the main problem. Why do you think John doesn't
> feel the need to solo or improvise or be in the center of
> the music and present his personal music while all of the
> great players emphasize on that?
All the great ROCK players? I don't know about that. Geddy often improvises
in a song but not a just-Geddy-solo. I could do a solo but I don't feel the
need. Maybe he just doesn't WANT to. That's not to say that he didn't suck
on that solo. Maybe he did, but maybe he really does not want to solo.
> I like John Myung. I think he's an outstanding player. So
> why don't I get to hear John Myung's music instead of
> hearing his nice riffs and personal flavors in DT songs -
> maybe because there is no real John Myung music.
You have that wrong. That IS Myung's music. Why isn't it? Why does he have
to take a solo to express himself? Maybe he expresses himself best within
the structure of a song rather than a freeform solo. Ever hear a jazz
bassist take a walking solo? Lot's of people don't think that's a solo. I
was assured by a very good teacher I had that it is and sometimes it's the
best thing to play.
> So maybe you should listen to that Jam session.
Well, I would love that. Where can I get a recording?
> Everyone isn't a soloist - correct. So they don't solo.
I have a recording of Charlie Parker. Bird takes a solo and it's great.
Then the trumpet player solos and it's horrible. It's really bad. It's
Miles Davis.
So Myung took a bad solo. So bad, that it actually wrecked the music. That
sounds like it was improvised because nothing on the albums wrecks the
music and that is surely composed. I really don't think it takes soloing to
express yourself. I am very satisfied playing bass. I rarely get the urge
to solo. Maybe I'm no better than Myung. I can solo. It isn't always that
good but I've taken some nice solos (if I do say so myself ;). I just don't
think that it's essential. How you gonna learn to solo if you don't do it?
If someone puts you down, you aren't likely to want to do it again.
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+ http://www.iii.net/users/mer/welcome.html +
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+ http://www.iii.net/users/mer/joelpage.html +
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 12:07:48 +0900
From: akiyama@mol.f.u-tokyo.ac.jp (AKIYAMA Takumi)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Status seeker and...
Message-ID: <9508240307.AA23484@mol.f.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
Hi all,
My name is Takumi Akiyama. I'm Japanese. I've been a Ytzejammer for two
weeks and enjoy your discussions very much.
1. I have some questions. I knew DT by WDADU album and I like "Status
Seeker" very much. I went their concert in Japan three times but I've never
heard them play this song. Have they ever played the song in the US or
anywhere ? If so, are there any live recordings ? I want to know about
other songs they haven't played in Japan i. e. Light Fuse and Get Away, The
Ones Who Help to Set the Sun, Innocence Faded, Scarred, Space-Dye Vest.
2. Following is a personal mail to a jammer whose e-mail address I don't
know. Please ignore.
Miss Kaoru Kobayashi, I heard about you from Mr. Michael Bahr. I'm
interested in "Subconcious" CD. I'd like you to contact me if you are not
busy.
Takumi Akiyama
akiyama@mol.f.u-tokyo.ac.jp
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Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 20:25:52 -0700 (MST)
From: Rich Rochelle <rr@asu.edu>
To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: John Patitucci and DT 'flaws'
Message-ID: <01HUFCLL2NR68X9CKY@asu.edu>
To the jammer in 925 who was talking (typing?) about DT's "flaws" as they were
called:
I must disagree that John Patitucci is a great BASS soloist. I had _On_the_
Corner and _Sketchbook_ for a while but they just didn't do it for me. Yeah,
it's a taste thing, but for me, JPat is a good soloist, but come on, John
play a solo that is more indicative of the bass. Since he was a guitar player
before he was a bass player, it is no surprise that his solos are usually in
the upper register (true, that is why one would buy a 6 string, but) and his
groove playing generally uneventful. If you dig him, that's cool, as I have
yet to find many who like what I do (except for DT, ofcourse). Someone I may
suggest for y'all (bass players, esp) to take a listen to is Gary Willis.
He is found on Scott Henderson and Tribal Tech albums. They are a fusion group
who sound _a_lot_ like Weather Report. He is absolutely incredible.
So, yeah, the DT content:
I would agree that in an improvised soloing situation, many of the DT guys do
not have their stuff together (please, no flames, I am writing from a Miles
Davis/John Coltrane improvisation viewpoint), but I can't blame them. After
all, the music is so technically difficult that I'd imagine they have practiced
their licks for hours upon hours, so, when they get to play something outside
of their norm, they may go, "Wow, I can now play the most beautiful melody I
have ever played! Oh, oops, I practiced so much for the last recording session
I don't know what to do."
About the JP solo on UAGM: John sat down (well, I guess he could've been
standing, but) and wrote out the entire solo to that tune! From a musicians
point of view, it is quite difficult to write "feel" (which is a trite word
which many use to describe the way Joe Satriani plays, but I won't start
another hair debate) into a solo. I've tried it, and it just doesn't work.
This is probably because I am not the player that I would like to be and I
just have not reached that level, but, I feel (there's that word again) that
a musician shows his/her raw emotion when they improvise a solo. Otherwise,
they are simply playing the emotiont they had when they wrote the tune.
I also remember reading in GFTPM (I think) that Petrucci said that the solo
was basically just a bunch of tricks that he threw together. Anyone read that
too?
And I must contribute a humorous thought about the hair "debate":
Okay, many said that it's what's on the inside that counts, not the outside.
Well, hair comes from inside you, so, maybe it IS what is on the outside that
counts! (And I AM (repeat, I AM) just joking about this)
Sorry about the long post, I think this is my first.
Later Rich Rochelle
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 00:02:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: HELP HELP!
Message-ID: <9508240402.AA13574@junix.ju.edu>
Help guys (and girls)!
My mail folder is corrupt and I dont know how to fix it so I haven't been
receiving any mail (or Jams) for the past 3 days. So if someone sent me
something I haven't recieved it.
Would some extremely cool person please be nice enough to forward me the
last three jams (in digest mode perferably) to:
Bedetras@aol.com
along with any other mail anyone has sent me.
Now don't everybody say "Well someone will get do it for him." please!
And not everybody saves them all. So before you empty your trash
can...think of Trey Allen @ Bedetras@aol.com PLEASE!
PS If any of you know how to fix a corrupt mail folder in UNIX (I tried
just removing the file, but no luck) I would apprieciate your help also!
Thanks in advance Trey Allen
(for now) Bedetras@aol.com
http://junix.ju.edu/UsrWebPages/tallen/home.html
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 14:15:50 +1000 (EST)
From: "BRENDEN R. THOMSON" <slayerbr@student.gu.edu.au>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Any Aussie fans?
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950824141427.10036D-100000@frodo>
If there are any Australian DT fans on the list that are
interested in chatting to a fan from Brisbane in sunny Queensland then
please email me!!
See ya - Brenden
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Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 23:26:25 C
From: freel@iowa.physics.uiowa.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: JM's solo
Message-ID: <00995538.540B8120.6@iowa.physics.uiowa.edu>
I hate to continue this childish thread, but it seems that one arrogant person
won't let it go...
Can any person be judged so completely in a few seconds? Don't make any
assumptions about how planned a solo was, if it was/wasn't an off night, there
wasn't a blast of feedback from one of the monitors that deafened the
performer, etc. Criticism is one thing, snotty attacks are another.
Chrisf
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 00:14:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Brian K. Adams" <aa467@seorf.ohiou.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: My Name
Message-ID: <199508240414.AAA26070@ra.cs.ohiou.edu>
Just wanted to drop a quick note to everyone on the jam aobut my name.
Yes my name given at birth by my parents was Brian Adams. Yes I do play
guitar and yes everyone I meet has a smart comment about it. I work in a
music store in Athens, Ohio and when anyone comes in about guitar lessons
or whatever and I have to give them a business card they reply " THE
Brian Adams".
So I'm not mad or anything but since it was brought up I felt the need to
clarify <g>.
No flames please but: Bernd.......That looks like a typing mistake ;)
Brian Adams
(No not that one)
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 00:42:15 EDT
From: LNCV43E@prodigy.com (MR BRIAN LUNDY)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 928
Message-ID: <013.00289830.LNCV43E@prodigy.com>
Yes, I believe ELP is/was very progressive, as is YES, RUSH, ASIA,
QUEENSRYCHE, and of course DT>
STYLES
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Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 23:29:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: James during instr. breaks
Message-ID: <199508240629.AA24704@crl6.crl.com>
James goes off-stage during the longer instrumental breaks (with some
exceptions). Our standard joke here is that he goes across the street
for a burger and fries, since some of those instrumental breaks are
damn near long enough! :)
<during the middle of Metropolis Pt 1>
<some thoughts in the minds of the band>
"Just a few minutes more, folks... We have a lead singer, we promise!"
"Yea, he was here a few minutes ago. I think.... Wasn't he?"
"He stepped out for a quick bite."
Time passes....
"Wait, I hear he's back in the building!"
"No, wait, he stopped to take a leak."
"No problem, keep jamming for a while."
"Hey, James is out of the john!" (no puns, please :))
"Here he comes!"
"He's almost to the stage...."
"Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome back James LaBrie!"
"Before the leaves have fallen
Before we lock the doors....."
:)
-- Once you're touched you stand alone | Paul W. Cashman To face the bitter fight | vanyel@crl.com Once I reached for love | <- Dream Theater And now I reach for life | "Learning to Live"------------------------------
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 16:46:56 -0400 From: Qghost@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Obscure trivia Message-ID: <950823164655_81591988@emout04.mail.aol.com>
Here's a toughie<
We all know the Kansas song "Dust in the Wind." Name the song by a MAJOR prog rock band that utters that exact phrase ...
"dust in the wind"
================================== Ghost Qghost@aol.com
"I want to do adverts for American Express cards, talk shows, and prime time TV!" ==================================
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 12:15:39 GMT+0100 From: "Ken H ili" <KEN@benoni.nbr.no> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: DT boot CDs Message-ID: <MAILQUEUE-101.950824121539.320@benoni.nbr.no>
>MAJESTIC HARMONEY SWEDEN 10/27/93 2CDs WN?
2CDs???? How come I only have one??????? (I'm now assuming that it's the Majestic HARMONIES CD)
Ken the Something (still trying to come up with a better nickname!)
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 12:31:03 +0100 (BST) From: Tor Houghton (SysAdmin) <torh@celtic.co.uk> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: What's new? Message-ID: <199508241131.MAA10973@celtichost.celtic.co.uk>
I am currently only receiving the digest of this list, due to time limitations.
I am wondering what's new from DT? Last CD I got was the 'Lie' single with 'To Live Forever' on it.
Please mail me, anyone. ;)
Thanks,
Tor.
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 14:24:38 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mats Rydstr\vm <d94-mry@nada.kth.se> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: in defense of John Myung Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91N2.950824135626.26003A-100000@mumrik.nada.kth.se>
Hi, I'm jumpin on this whole Myung-thread...
I don't think we can judge his solo-abilities on just one performance (which I haven't heard), which we seem to do. Ok, on Ytsejam he's mostly just blowing his load, but that's what everybody else is doing on the song. The solos there are to impress with flashiness and not much about giving your whole soul, I don't consider neither the guitar- nor the keyboard-solos that much of tasteful soloing on Ytsejam and I don't think the bass solo is any worse than those (well, if he'd had a real sound at the time we could at least make out what notes are in the arpeggios and the tapping. But it fits the song and they do impress, look at the keyboard arpeggios on the LIT video.
It's also all depending on the mood you're in, if you're not a machine-player who just bang out your runs. If you're uncomfortable you'll most likely just run through your chops, but if you're inspired you'll do much more than that. I don't consider myself a bass-soloist, not even a real bass-player ;-) but from my experience that's the way it works. When I had just played for 3 months we did the first gig with my band, small place with seated people and tea-party atmosphere. We played covers only and it all sounded horrible, we finished off with Child In Time, which we hadn't rehearsed and got off and did a 15 minute jam that was way ahead of what we were capable of, just because the mood was right and everything clicked. Suddenly everybody stopped and looked at me and I was forced to solo at my first gig ever, hardly knowing anything about soloing (or playing for that matter) but because of the atmosphere, it came off. I didn't have the time to get uncomfortable I just went with it.
If John wasn't comfortable at that time he would do a lot worse than normal, and I can understand that. You could state that you should be able to present a minimum quality at any time, but I think that good unaccompanied bass solos are beyond that. I have not heard that many bass-solos that come off extremely well, I haven't heard Victor Wooten but I'm familiar with Pastorius, Sheehan, Patitucci and so on and they don't always impress. Sheehan just does his runs, Patitucci is such a wuss (I can't get into the soft-porn jazz solos I've heard), and Pastorius, well he has done the best for my money but you can easily hear the same themes come back quite often. I'm not slagging these guys but they haven't impressed me more than Myung.
I don't need to hear a bass solo at a DT show, it would be nice but I don't need it. I don't need a 6 minute drum solo, (heck they could play TOWHTSTS instead), but if Mike does want to do it, fine! I don't even need an unaccompanied guitar solo. I'd much more like the jamming together (Back Pain Jam ;-) than unaccompanied solos. Hell, if I wanted just to hear unaccompanied solos I'd go listen to all my old Deep Purple recordings from the early 70's. They do at leats 10 minutes each on some occasions. I think that's a bit old, playing together is the thing for me!
Well, back to the usual!
/Mats
Mats Rydstrom - d94-mry@nada.kth.se /~~~~~~~~~~\~~BassPlayer/BREAKPOINT~~/ - http://www.nada.kth.se/~d94-mry \ no wrong, no right / ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ or guilt admission / ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 09:24:25 -0400 From: david@pharlap.CI.COM (David B. Kuznick) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Trivia Message-ID: <9508241324.AA17665@pharlap.ci.com>
> New Triva Question: Part Two:
Well you stumped me on some of them, so by definition they're hard. :-)
> In The Nice, Keith Emerson was famous for what musical piece
America
which was > taken from which Broadway musical
West Side Story. Here's an easy one: What story is this based on?
by which late famous composer/conductor?
Leonard Bernstein
> What other group played a song by the same name as that of the above > mentioned piece by KE/Nice?
Yes. What song did Yes do that has a stronger connection to this topic?
Although this song has the same name, it was > compsed by which other contemporary artist?
Paul Simon
> On which Black Sabbath song(s) did Rick Wakeman play?
I know he played on Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (the album), but not sure which songs. Damn. Still have to get this album.
David Kuznick - david@ci.com (preferred) or dkuznick@world.std.com So storm through the barricades and raise your hands up high All of you pull down your walls, help those too scared to try Don't let them tell you it's only a dream, for never to dream is to die. Don't close your eyes. - "For Your Eyes" - ARAGON
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Date: 24 Aug 1995 10:03:10 GMT From: "Steven Johnson, P" <svjohnson@amoco.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: YTSEJAM digest 930 Message-ID: <199508241503.AA05215@interlock.amoco.com>
*** Reply to note of 08/23/95 18:59 Bass solos: Stu Hamm...."Quahogs Anyone?". My bass player put this on tape for me (a livepiece) and it's unreal!! One of the highlights is when he steps i nto "Linus and Lucy" (or is it "Lucy and Linus?" aka "The Peanuts Theme"). You'd think there were at least two bass players out there. Cool stuff. LATER-
Steve --------------------------------------------------------------- "Strange how laughter looks like crying with no sound. Raindrops taste like tears without the pain." -- Queensryche
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 12:49:05 -0400 From: Clarke Woodfin <clarke.woodfin@gsfc.nasa.gov> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 930 Message-ID: <199508241649.MAA16620@popa.gsfc.nasa.gov>
> >I just saw some people mentioning bass solos, and don't know if this >has been mentioned, but the best bass solo I have ever seen would be >Victor Wooten of Bela Fleck and the Flecktones. As anyone who has >seen him live would agree, you just cannot believe what you are seeing. > >He is very possibly the best bass player alive today! > >Rob > Rob, I agree! I saw the Flecktones in concert last year - I'm a bassist and I went specifically to see Victor. He is absolutely incredible. He is most definitely very possibly the best bassist alive today. He is in my book.
By the way, if any of you 'Jammers are into jazz (I know most of you are), check out Bela Fleck and Flecktones. They play a bluegrass/jazz fusion that's very tasty. Bela Fleck is one of the premier banjo players in the world - Victor is a bass god- and their drummer (his name is Futureman) plays an instrument called a Synthaxe Drumitar - it's a cross between a drum machine and a guitar. Ya gotta see it to believe it. These guys DEFINE the word "creativity". Their CD "Flight of the Cosmic Hippo" is probably their best. "Three Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" is also good - that's their first since pianist/harmonica player Howard Levy left the band. Try "Three Flew..." and "...Hippo" to get a good sampling of the 'Tones.
Clarke Woodfin
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 17:33:46 -0400 From: jsg140@psu.edu (Jason Gianni) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: DT over the summer Message-ID: <199508242133.RAA26807@genesis.ait.psu.edu>
Hey all jammers!
Back to Penn State after a good, long summer. Just wanted to say HELLO and fill you all in on some of my DT experiences over the last few months....
-Being that I'm a drummer, I was able to go to the Modern Drummer Festival in May where Mike played. Originally, I thought I'd just be one of the few ticket holders who just got to shake his hand. However, through hours of chatting with the staff of Modern Drummer, I was invited to the MD private dinner-banquet after the weekend show (talk about an honor!). I walked in and noticed that only one table was open to sit at.....and who was sitting there eating dinner? Yep, Mike and Marlene! So, I got to talk to them all night. What a great time!! Real nice people and great to talk music with... -In addition, I was able to see DT at the Birch Hill country club in NJ. I'm sure this show was reported on during the course of the summer, so I won't blab-on with details. Needless to say, they were THE BEST I've ever seen them!
-(sorry about the non-DT info....) I feel the need to fill you all in on a group I was introduced to over the summer. They are a group from Germany called EVERON and their CD, called "Flood," is one of the best CD's I've heard in so many years!! They are MUCH less technical than DT (some sections of 7/8 or 7/4, with real interesting riffs), but have a sound very similar to DT's. However, rather than a guitar dominant sound, they have a full, orchestrated sound by strings, keyboard, and tons of piano. Their writing is so unbelievabely melodic (reminds me of a broadway show!) and very similar to the kind of writing like "Surrounded" or "Another Day." Anyway, unfortunately, they are hard to find because it is both an import and is filed under "Melodic/Progressive Rock," in which we all know is so hard to find to begin with! Rather than rambling on, I'll leave it at that. If anyone has heard of them or wants more info, please e-mail me because I'd REALLY like to pass their word around, or even learn more about them myself. Music THIS GOOD cannot be passed up without hearing!!!!!
Good to be back on the list once again. Can't wait until the new EP!!! Later......
jason
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 16:59:52 PST From: mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: No DT: Cygnus CD mini-review... Message-ID: <9507248093.AA809309075@CCGATE.HAC.COM>
Well, just got my Cygnus CD (along with a bonus video) from Mike Bahr (thanks!)... Been listening to it at work (about 5 times now) and am very impressed with the quality (and I'm usually dissapointed by boots). Considering that this was recorded from the audience in the 70's (correct me if I'm wrong), I have to say that this is one of the better sounding boots that I have heard (stereo effects and all!)... Any Rush fan should definately get this, it absolutely proves that Rush kick major butt live! The setlist is as follows: 1. Anthem 2. A Passage To Bankok 3. By-Tor and the Snow Dog 4. Xanadu 5. Something For Nothing 6. The Trees 7. Cygnus 8. Hemispheres 9. Circumstances 10. A Farewell To Kings This is just over 70 minutes of live Rush (and it was recorded in Tucson no less :)... (and you get to hear Geddy get mad at the audience for pushing up against the stage ;) Now, the liner notes are another story altogether... the cover picture is cool, but who are these guys in the "tribute" band? And I thought all of those songs were Rush "originals" <big sarcastic grin>! I think Mike did a great job on this CD and is definately worth getting. +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | Michael Kizer -- Computer Sciences Corporation (Tucson, AZ) | | mrkizer@ccgate.hac.com (preferred) -or- mkizer@indirect.com | | http://www.indirect.com/www/mkizer/index.htm | | ^--> Check here for the Dream Theater Song Book... | | "Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose." -Rush (The Band!) | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 19:14:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Kevin Martin <marmik@homer.acs.bethel.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: How is DT related to Vixen? Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9508241933.A8674-0100000@homer>
Hmm...I thunk I dun posted on that a while ago.... Roxanne Petrucci, the drummer of Vixen, is John Petrucci's sister. Maxine Petrucci, another sister, was also lead guitarist in a band called Madame X with Roxanne on drums.
Michael
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